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Posted Jan 22, 2012 @ 7:26 PM

From his bio:

I would love nothing more than to see my verbally abusive stepdad’s reaction when I win a million dollars on national TV.


This one is already airing family dirty laundry. It's not that I don't have sympathy for him, but I think he could easily get annoying. The oversharing could be a deal breaker.

He's the token gay guy that we haven't had in a while.
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Posted Jan 23, 2012 @ 2:40 AM

In EW, Probst is already hyping him as a super-villain, which worries me. I'm hoping he's an old-school Jerri/Randy villain, and not a Russell Hantz camera-hog, because having seen a one-minute clip of him, I've already seen about 45 seconds too much of him.
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Posted Jan 23, 2012 @ 4:35 AM

I also didn't like his "I know everything there is to know about Survivor" schtick. We saw how brilliantly the last Surivor "expert" played. Not.
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Posted Feb 15, 2012 @ 11:16 PM

Am I the only one who thought he was going out of his way to be "The Gay Dude?"

Lavender shirt? Check.

Sleeves tied over the front? Check.

Metrosexual attitude? Check.

Feminine gestures? Check.

Interacting more easily with women than men, to the point of calling the women "Girlfriend?" Check.

Making the "Two Snaps Up" guys on In Living Color look like Rambo? Check.

TONE IT DOWN already.
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Posted Feb 15, 2012 @ 11:26 PM

He's so obviously flaming, it's not even funny.

Still, I'm oddly interested in seeing if any farther bond between him and Sabrina can be forged, because I was kinda liking their pseudo-alliance over the idol.

Oh, and I hope he at least punts Matt from the game.
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Posted Feb 16, 2012 @ 12:26 AM

Come on Colton, get a clue! There are other people in your own tribe who you can bond with and use to get you more than one week on this show. No amount of time spent with the women will get you on their tribe.
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Posted Feb 16, 2012 @ 8:51 AM

I've never seen anyone go so out of their way to make themselves an outsider on their own team! Nothing to do with his alleged gayness at all! There are gay guys who could've gone into that tribe and easily become one of them.

I don't get him. It's like he's wearing a gay candy shell.

Edited by Raguel, Feb 16, 2012 @ 8:51 AM.

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Posted Feb 16, 2012 @ 9:22 AM

Well, I liked Cochran at this point last season, so I reserve the right to change my mind. But so far I love the guy. He's hilarious in his misfit-ness. Pretty sure he's going to be booted early, because it only takes one Boston Rob type to point out that Colton's spending way too much time with "the enemy." But for now, I'm enjoying him.

It's like he's wearing a gay candy shell.

Indeed. His jump into the net was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life--seriously rewound it a couple of times and howled. I can't decide if he really is quite that flaming or if he's playing it up for camera time.
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Posted Feb 16, 2012 @ 10:02 AM

Somebody PLEASE make a gif of that leap!
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Posted Feb 16, 2012 @ 10:40 AM

Colton is setting himself up for failure by not even attempting to behave like he was apart of his team. He just assumed that none of the guys would like him because he was gay but from I saw the guys didn't have a problem with that. It's the not helping around camp, sulking and looking like he doesn't want to be there, and fraternizing with the enemy that is what is going to earn him a ticket home. I don't think he even made an attempt to talk to any of the guys. He spent all his time socializing with the girls and then tried to guilt-trip them into finding the idol for him so he wouldn't be sent home. Why did he want to go on Survivor anyway if he's not even going to play the game?
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Posted Feb 16, 2012 @ 9:14 PM

I've never seen anyone go so out of their way to make themselves an outsider on their own team! Nothing to do with his alleged gayness at all! There are gay guys who could've gone into that tribe and easily become one of them.


Angie from Palau is the closest analogue I can think of. And she eventually bonded with Steph and survived til five were left in that awful, awful tribe.
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Posted Feb 16, 2012 @ 9:52 PM

So far, this guy's social game is sucking balls, particularly with his own tribe. Though I ain't rooting for him, I hope he wakes up and rallies the folks who aren't in the douchebag frat boy alliance to off Matt and his small-minded buddies.
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Posted Feb 17, 2012 @ 3:30 AM

blackrose, funny you should say that, because Colton reminds me a great deal of Cochrane. In all the wrong ways.
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Posted Feb 17, 2012 @ 10:22 AM

He seems to have the same mentality that Stacey from last seaosn had--well, they don't like me, so I'm not going to try to make it work. Come on, people! You came out to win $1M, try to make it work, by any means possible.
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Posted Feb 18, 2012 @ 12:44 AM

Maybe I'm just blinded by the fact that he's filling the Todd Herzog niche - flaming faux-strategist - but I actually think Colton's performance could go down as one of the best first episodes ever.

1. Anybody remember Borneo? Who did you think would be the first to go home? I thought it'd be the obnoxious guy, lecturing everybody from a tree while everybody formed the social bonds they needed in the game.

2. The hunks he's setting himself up as an outcast from constitute a minority of their tribe. Eventually, the other guys are going to figure out that 5 is more than 4. When Colton uses his idol to bounce one of the 4, even the dumbest of the other guys will realize that 5 is more than 3 and that Colton came to play. We haven't seen enough of Colton yet to know if he fills this niche, but remember how Heidik in Thailand and Mariano in RI thrived on their alpha status? Colton doesn't look like an alpha, but if the tribe splits into a discohesive four, plus four hunks, plus one Colton who's just Four Horsemen'd the four hunks, then why wouldn't the other four rally around him?

3. See above: dude has an idol.

4. Which he acquired by making friends with the women. Not just "the women", in fact, but the seeming power players of the women. It's not like he's going and sulking in a corner and not playing the game at all---if anything, his problem is that he spent the first episode trying to set up his post-merge game.

5. Remember when Chris Daugherty was in a similar situation to Colton's---the least-fit guy on a tribe made up half of hunky mactors and half of out-of-shape schlubs? Chris made the brilliant move that Colton may have to make in rallying the out-of-shape schlubs around his leadership. And when did Chris do that? The moment it became clear - and not one moment earlier - that, unless he did that, he'd be the one to go home.

Which is to say, let's say the men dominate the challenges and they don't have to vote anyone off until Day 12. If the flaming little pear-shaped dude spent that whole twelve days desperately scrambling, everyone would be sick of him by that time. But if he makes his big moves strategically, he'll be fine.

I don't necessarily like Colton - his attempts at manipulation are too blatant, and really, who's in the "I love you" place after a day and a half? - but I do think that a lot of the moves that look bad now will, if he wins, be held up as evidence of his strategic mastery. And from what we've seen so far, I can't think of a likelier winner.
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Posted Feb 18, 2012 @ 4:30 AM

Todd didn't isolate himself. Precisely the opposite.

Todd was either popular in high school or got over it. Colton is stuck there.
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Posted Feb 18, 2012 @ 2:08 PM

As someone who hates and fears other people, I am most irked by Colton's laid-on-thick lovingfulness with women. His over-the-top League of Super-Friends approach really bugs me. I don't expect anyone to like me within two minutes of meeting me, so his frothy pronouncements of how much he loves everyone on the female tribe and how they'll be bestest buddies just rubs me the wrong way.
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Posted Feb 19, 2012 @ 8:02 PM

People who insincerely tell people "I love you" rub me the wrong way. People who mug for the camera and play to stereotypes rub me the wrong way. This guy rubs me the wrong way.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 5:19 AM

I kinda liked him in week one, but now, I'm not so sure. His self-pity really rubbed me the wrong way.

He saved himself a little bit in my eyes for at least finally realizing that he needs to bond with some of the other men and forming the Fat Five 2.0. It'll be what he does with it that helps me make the real call about him, though.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 9:01 AM

What I don't get is why he says he has nothing in common with the other men except for the fact that they're male, and that that's why he can't relate to any of them. It makes me wonder what type of man he's attracted to, since, because I'm a gay man myself, you couldn't PRY me away from the men's tribe -- not with all THAT testosterone-fed beefcake around, whether I had anything in common with them or not. Hell, I'd be driving them crazy trying to bond with them!
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 9:07 AM

Bet you $50 cash money he's never been with a guy.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 9:18 AM

As always, we only see an edited version of how the two tribes relate to him. And that's because of time issues, not necessarily because the men dislike Colton because he is gay. It was a smart move to let a few of the men know that he has the idol. Now he needs to back that up with doing work around camp.

If indeed Colton spends all his time on the swing or sitting around looking bored in camp, he's not going to last long.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 10:17 AM

From the Total Dysfunction episode thread

Leaving the whole episode aside (it was kind of boring anyway), can we talk about the fact that Colton, in the teaser for next week, said "I am a Republican; I do not believe in handouts."


...he seems to be wising up and building some form of an alliance around his handout HII. Yes, the guy that says he doesn't believe in handouts.


The guy who doesn't believe in handouts, except when he's begging for one.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 11:08 AM

I agree with whoever said: if he's a gay man shouldn't he LIKE men?

He also at risk of making the classic Survivor mistake, which is to come in with a set strategy (bond with women, not threaten the men) and then to not be able to adjust his approach when circumstances demand it. If anything, Survivor rewards people who can adapt themselves continually to adverse circumstances (physically, socially, and strategically).

By aligning with his "misfits" he may have a chance. Though I think the "misfits" Jonas and possibly Lief seem way smarter and more savvy than Colton.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 12:12 PM

agree with whoever said: if he's a gay man shouldn't he LIKE men?


The things that straight men talk about most often are: sexy women, sports and work. My guess is the sexy women and sports are not a possibility. But on this show work equals the game of Survivor. Colton has an idol, and he's talking about it. So Colton has an edge and some 'friends.'

Colton is afaid to talk to the more macho straight men, let's see if that changes when the game is on the line and planning and strategy are all important.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 2:34 PM

I liked Colton in episode 1, however in episode 2 I felt like he was segregating himself. He made no attempts to even bother bonding and getting to know his own tribe. Instead he just kept running over to the womens camp and then when they didn't want him, he wanted to go make a camp by himself and live alone.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 5:29 PM

I just love the fact that Colton, who says on the one hand he's a Republican who doesn't believe in handouts, on the other hand, begs the girls to give him the HII. Atta show!
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 6:48 PM

Angie from Palau is the closest analogue I can think of. And she eventually bonded with Steph and survived til five were left in that awful, awful tribe.

Angie totally kicked ass in an early reward challenge and a group hug transformed her from a shy outcast into a tribe cheerleader. I loved it. "No more tribal councils!" she screamed in the middle of one of all the challenges they lost.

I don't see this happening with Colton.

Edited by scowl, Feb 23, 2012 @ 6:49 PM.

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Posted Feb 24, 2012 @ 12:23 AM

Well, it comes back down to loyalty. When he revealed the HII to his non-frat teammates they seemed pretty much on board with the idea of taking out a frat boy. Very likely they can count. The question now is if they can all keep their mouths shut and act the part. If they can then Coulton's membership in a beta (as opposed to alpha) male alliance would be good for him even if he slept all day every day. OTOH, I predict that at least one of them will blab about the HII. What is it about that thing that makes people do that?
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Posted Feb 24, 2012 @ 2:12 AM

From the "Homosexuality and Survivor" thread"

And I think a lot of what Colton's trying to do is strategy, as I've outlined on the Colton thread---what better way to alienate himself from the buff jerks, and ingratiate himself with the non-buff men and the women, than by turning the gay stereotype up to 11? To some degree, his attempts to weasel in with the women stopped working last night...but it's a long game.

The problem with his strategy, though, is that all the "buff jerks" have to do is rely on the old saw about needing to keep the stronger men around for challenges in order to have the numbers at the merge (as Jeff will also repeatedly emphasize the first time the men go to Tribal Council, and at every Manono Tribal Council until the merge.) The Misfit Alliance may have the numbers, but in my opinion, they'll have a hard time withstanding the argument that the "buff jerks" are the only ones who can guarantee that Manono will have the majority once the tribes actually merge, especially if/when the women finally start getting their act together at the challenges.
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