Last Chance Kitchen
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 2:06 AM
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I'd be pissed if I was one of the regular chefs who make it to the end. If last night is any indication, the losers just have a basic cook off with a theme (make a pizza). Meanwhile the regular chefs have to jump all the crazy hoops that come along with the regular episode challenge and yet the best of the losers get back in the game to compete for the win.
The cooking challenges may be simpler, but it will be more difficult to advance in Last Chance Kitchen (LCK) than regular Top Chef.
To advance in LCK, you must win.
To advance in regular Top Chef, all you need do is not lose.
Moreover, if the challenges are simpler, and don't involve teams, the competitors don't have any excuses.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 11:37 AM
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 12:41 PM
This. I wish they'd let the eliminated chefs compete for some kind of consolation prize, maybe as a replacement for the Fan Favorite prize or some of the high stakes quickfires.
This concept annoys me. Top Chef is an hour long show. I hate feeling like I have to do "extra credit" to see the whole thing.
I can't figure out why it's a good idea to run part of your show online only and then try to incorporate the person back into the tv show right at the end. Which is why I'm assuming they'll marathon it on television eventually. Otherwise they risk having someone in the finale, having a winner, without that person having developed a fan following the same way those competing on tv would. There are those of us who can't/won't watch this element and get to know those people.
Alternatively they could rig the whole thing and have the last chef eliminated before the finale be the one who gets to go back to the main show. That would be fair, in a way.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 12:47 PM
I also hope that this addition to the actual challenge won't be at the very end. I would be OK with them adding this person right before the final x (to whatever destination they will be going this season). I would not be OK with them being added to the final 2/3.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 2:16 PM
You can also watch the weibisode ON Demand. I just pulled up last night's entry.
I can't figure out why it's a good idea to run part of your show online only and then try to incorporate the person back into the tv show right at the end. Which is why I'm assuming they'll marathon it on television eventually.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 2:58 PM
It provides extra content for fans who are interested (and potentially drives web traffic which then may boost sales of various products promoted) but if you don't want to watch, it doesn't seem like you're being hurt by not watching. So, potentially a random chef you don't know much about somehow makes it back onto the show, surprise! Harmless. The person who makes it back still has to compete for the ultimate title.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 3:06 PM
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 3:42 PM
I think it's an interesting concept and provides an avenue for a good chef who has a bad day. They did similar during the New Orleans finale bringing Jeff back for a chance to move on only if he won.
It would be quite a twist if Andrew made it all the way and he's pretty much a complete stranger to the finale chefs! What seems more likely is that a chef who goes out at top 5 or 6 might get back into top 3 or 4.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 3:47 PM
As BravoTV's website is geographically specific to the US, those of us elsewhere in the world will need your help in telling us what happens in Last Chance Kitchen. Can I just ask that we get a very brief weecap of theme, challenge and winner? Thanks!
I'll try. This week was Janine vs Andrew and the challenge was pizza. I'll have to rewatch to get the exact ingredients, but Andrew won with a cheese-less pizza. There's no pictures on the LCK site, so I just played/stopped and rewound until I got this.
Andrew: Mediterranean pizza with salsa verde, anchovies & topped with grilled calamari salad. When presenting he says he had a calamari & capers salad at then end.
Janine: Fig pizza with Parmesan cheese, fig, arugula, balsamic vinegar and black garlic. Then she says she drizzles a honey/truffle oil/balsamic vinaigrette at the end
Edited by Puds38, Nov 10, 2011 @ 4:42 PM.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 4:19 PM
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 5:25 PM
Does anyone know how many weeks TC is into the competition in real time? Because all those remaining would now know of LCK if they weren't told already.
This was taped over the summer, so the main competition is over. They usually film the finale when the airing of the final four gets close, so if they weren't informed before they left for the break they know now.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 9:58 PM
I guess I'm just not very fond of this new addition. Like someone else said above, it feels like extra credit, but even beyond that, if the judging panel eliminates a chef who places in the bottom, then that should be it for the chef. The eliminated chef who stays on Last Chance Kitchen also misses all the other challenges the in-game chefs have to go through, and depending on when the LCK chef returns, he or she could miss the pivotal "Restaurant Wars" (or maybe RW will be the time the LCK chef returns. I don't know).
And speaking of returning, how would it make sense to the general audience who doesn't watch the webisodes? I'm obsessive enough that I'll search this out (and some of the judges' comments about the competition (Eric Ripert's recaps were always my favorite), but my really good friend who loves Top Chef just the same doesn't do all the extra stuff like scour the Bravo site for video clips. How does the return of an eliminated chef get explained to the public who isn't looking for stuff online?
Posted Nov 10, 2011 @ 11:05 PM
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Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 8:05 AM
It also explains the #24 that Andrew was wearing in some of his talking heads.
And I suspect this happened very quickly, like in just a few days. If they took as much real time as the main show, they'd have to house these chefs for several weeks, which would be very expensive for little payoff. I bet they ran through this whole process in 3-4 days.
Anyway, I feel bad for Janine and I hope she comes back in a future season.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 9:48 AM
Does it? I don't think that everyone who got eliminated gets another chance - just Janine and Andrew and everyone who gets eliminated from here on out.
This means the jerk who was eliminated first for mis-butchering the pig gets another chance.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 10:18 AM
I think that sucks if he doesn't, because he's not really a contestant.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 11:29 AM
They didn't even include the other 2 chefs on the bubble who didn't get coats. I don't think we have to worry about Tyler Stone coming back. It's Tom's rules after all.
I don't think that everyone who got eliminated gets another chance - just Janine and Andrew and everyone who gets eliminated from here on out.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 12:12 PM
how would it make sense to the general audience who doesn't watch the webisodes?
I think it's enough to explain the premise of the webisodes: Each week until the finale, the knifed chef faces off against the previous winner of LCK. In the finale, the most recent LCK winner gets to compete. Chances are, it will be a recently eliminated contestant returning, so the opportunity will make sense.
Does Andrew get to reapply if he loses?
That would be one reason to keep everything on the web, so he doesn't appear on the show unless he wins through. On the other hand, maybe he has traded a chance at a future season for the chance at the current season.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 12:34 PM
I feel like this is Top Chef: Redemption Island.
Oh yeah. I hate it on Survivor and I hate it here. And to take this bad idea from Survivor and mix it with the equally bad idea of the "Opening Episodes Parade of Unworthy Losers Who Don't Make the Actual Show" from American Idol (which they also did on this season's Project Runway) is two bad ideas too many.
I don't like having to watch it online, particularly, but I guess it would be even worse to take up time on the main show for it, the way they do on Survivor. I think I'd like it better if it ran in a broadcast slot after the actual episode, the way PR did with Models of the Runway and After the Runway. That way you could see it on actual TV if you wanted to, and wouldn't have to watch it or record it if it didn't interest you.
I do like one thing about it and that is that it seems to be a straightforward cooking challenge, which sometimes gets lost on this show.
Edited by ratgirlagogo, Nov 11, 2011 @ 12:35 PM.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 4:34 PM
I don't feel like it defies the spirit of the show. They have had contestants reurn in the past as competitors in their season (either as a last-minute twist or to replace someone who had to leave). They also love recycling past contestants as sous chefs or all-stars or in one-off specials. This just seems to be a chance for the chefs to redeem themselves after getting eliminated and for the audiences to see chefs they love (or love to hate) create one more nice meal.
One thing that I like about the show is that it seems to be more about the food than the winner. There have been winners that the audience declares undeserving (Ilan, Hosea) and runners-up that are revered as much as the winners (Kevin). So I don't mind trading the chance that someone undeserving might win (which has already happened) or that someone eliminated might come back (which has also already happened) for the chance to see the chefs make more delicious food.
Edited by stardanced, Nov 11, 2011 @ 4:34 PM.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 @ 6:48 PM
I don't think so, either. It's far more appropriate to use it in a judged competition such as Top Chef than on Survivor where strategy and your social game (of lack of it) are more important than any specific technical skill. To quote Alton Brown on Next Iron Chef, 'Great chefs have bad days'. We'll see how it plays out, but I'm perfectly happy to give the TC chefs a second chance.
I don't feel like it defies the spirit of the show.
Edited by Quilt Fairy, Nov 11, 2011 @ 6:55 PM.
Posted Nov 12, 2011 @ 4:18 AM
Posted Nov 12, 2011 @ 9:32 AM
Also, weren't there some past eliminated chefs that just gave up at the end because they lost their motivation? Wouldn't they suck at LCK or would they just forfeit?
Posted Nov 12, 2011 @ 1:20 PM