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Posted Oct 19, 2011 @ 11:10 PM

When a hijacked medevac helicopter with CSI Brody aboard goes missing, the entire team is on hunt.



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Posted Oct 19, 2011 @ 11:30 PM

I was in and out of this episode. I don't care about the new girl at all and it's annoying that they devoted an episode to her being in peril.

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Posted Oct 19, 2011 @ 11:38 PM

I loved Greg yelling "Bitch!" and needing to be held back from punching the suspect's daughter. He's come a long way from dancing around the lab in a showgirl headdress.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 12:32 AM

When are we losing the new girl? The over-abundance of her annoying presence just ruined this ep for me.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 1:15 AM

I was kind of expecting a coda scene where Greg informed the daughter that due to her actions everyone she had sent was dead... Bitch

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 5:04 AM

I would have enjoyed that a lot more if the setup hadn't involved the new girl being so dumb. First, letting the suspect know he WAS a suspect, and secondly, letting him get a hold of her gun (right? I wasn't entirely paying attention in that scene, so I'm assuming that's where he got the gun).

I guess her angsting about that, and basically causing the deaths of the paramedic and helicopter pilot, will be her major plot line. Blah. Since I don't care about her, I don't really care about her angst.

I can't get over how well Ted Danson is working on this show. He's actually moved it back into 'watch live' territory for me, when during the Langston years more often that not I DVR'd and then deleted episodes unwatched.

Edited by Firecat, Oct 20, 2011 @ 5:05 AM.


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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 6:34 AM

I would have enjoyed that a lot more if the setup hadn't involved the new girl being so dumb. First, letting the suspect know he WAS a suspect, and secondly, letting him get a hold of her gun (right? I wasn't entirely paying attention in that scene, so I'm assuming that's where he got the gun).


I didn't notice while it was happening, but I'm pretty sure the suspect said that was the case.

I was also annoyed by the whole setup, but was able to put that aside pretty quickly. I found the episode really well paced, I liked the stuff with her (the new girl's) dad and Greg, and loved the stuff with the daughter. That actress gave me chills and I agree, kindredlaugh, I was expecting a quick scene at the end, where someone tells her how her daddy issues managed to get six of her "family" killed.

I can't get over how well Ted Danson is working on this show. He's actually moved it back into 'watch live' territory for me, when during the Langston years more often that not I DVR'd and then deleted episodes unwatched.


I totally agree, and I actually liked Ray. He just seems like a good boss, and he's a very engaging character, without being overwhelming.

I usually watch CSI on occasion as filler, but I'm loving it this season. And I love the new time slot.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 8:27 AM

Not nearly as tense as I thought it would be. So Ecklie was a bad dad. Not surprised.

One nitpick. She is on a chopper with the noise so bad you have to wear ear protection, the suspect is right there and they PHONE her? What texting doesn't work in the air? Whole thing would not have happened if they just texted her "not dead guy is suspect. will have sheriff waiting when you land. do not let him know." And since when is it the CSI's responsibility to make sure someone is in custody?

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 8:57 AM

The thing that bugged me was that the guy was so close to dead that they thought he was dead at first, but a little CPR and some electricity through his heart, and he's suddenly well enough to sit up and grab a gun and hold three healthy adults hostage. Seems to me that he'd be too weak to hold onto a gun never mind aim it, even if he was mentally coherent enough to remember what happened, understand the situation, and decide what he wanted to do.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 10:44 AM

Anyone else notice that Morgan was disappointed the suspect wasn't dead when they got to the crime scene? I know CSI has no problem making jokes at the expense of the victim, but that line was kind of awful. Or maybe I'm being harsh because she kind of sucks.

I liked the episode even though it centered around Morgan. Greg's concern and anger were played very well, and I loved him screaming at Samantha. I hope Eric Szmanda gets a good gig after CSI. He was supposed to be a random lab tech and then progressed from a lovable lab rat to a great CSI. Side note, he's also really hot when he gets angry.

Samantha was fantastic. My guilty pleasure is Switched at Birth, so I loved seeing the actress in this role. Her flip from concerned daughter to conniving bitch was great.

Props to Ecklie as well.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 11:28 AM

ITA, Anen!

I like Morgan well enough, but not well enough to be concerned about her being kidnapped. Nor to want to watch a whole episode about her being in peril and her daddy issues. And I felt Greg's emotions were a little... strong for someone he's only known for a few months. Even if he IS crushing on her. He certainly didn't have this strong a reaction when Sara was kidnapped, and he'd known and been crushing on HER for years. It's a bad sign when I care more about the medic than I do about the CSI. Heh.

I thought Harnois did a good job with what the writers gave her. And Marc Vann is always great.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 11:43 AM

I don't really care that much about Morgan, but that only made the episode more enjoyable for me. She's new enough that they could have killed her off, and since I don't keep up with show spoilers, there was actually a little suspense (as opposed to the complete lack of suspense you get when a more established character is kidnapped). I enjoyed watching the reactions of the other CSIs more than I felt concern for her- I wanted her to be safe for her dad and coworker's sake, more than for her- which made for an interesting viewing experience.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 12:10 PM

Is her name Morgan or Brody? Morgan Brody or Brody Morgan? And why isn't one of those name Ecklie?

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 12:24 PM

I would assume she's Morgan Brody, and her mom's last name is Brody, since she doesn't seem to be a big Ecklie fan.

I was indifferent to her plight and was more sorry for the medic who got shot, but the last scene kind of got to me. I'm really liking Danson's vibe, which helps.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 12:55 PM

The storyline didn't bother me much. I figured this "baptism of fire" episode to Brody will happen eventually anyway. Sara got left for dead in a flood and a wrecked car, Greg got bitchslapped almost to death, Nick was buried alive, Catherine was drugged. Since she's the new kid, something has to happen to her considering the luck of her co-CSIs.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 12:57 PM

The storyline didn't bother me much. I figured this "baptism of fire" episode to Brody will happen eventually anyway. Sara got left for dead in a flood and a wrecked car, Greg got bitchslapped almost to death, Nick was buried alive, Catherine was drugged. Since she's the new kid, something has to happen to her considering the luck of her co-CSIs.


And don't forget thingummy, who died on her first day.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 2:53 PM

I was indifferent to her plight and was more sorry for the medic who got shot


Ditto. And the pilot, who I will flove forever for cracking about her not keeping control of her gun.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 4:59 PM

And why isn't one of those name Ecklie?



When she was introduced last season, she mentioned as a throwaway that she took her stepfather's name.

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Posted Oct 20, 2011 @ 5:00 PM

I would have enjoyed that a lot more if the setup hadn't involved the new girl being so dumb. First, letting the suspect know he WAS a suspect, and secondly, letting him get a hold of her gun (right? I wasn't entirely paying attention in that scene, so I'm assuming that's where he got the gun).


Yes, he got the gun from her, but I'm going to cut her some slack on getting surprised by the "dead guy".

... the guy was so close to dead that they thought he was dead at first, but a little CPR and some electricity through his heart, and he's suddenly well enough to sit up and grab a gun and hold three healthy adults hostage. Seems to me that he'd be too weak to hold onto a gun never mind aim it, even if he was mentally coherent enough to remember what happened, understand the situation, and decide what he wanted to do.

She was trying to help this poor "victim" who was nearly dead. What rational person would have had any reason to react any differently?
This does seem to be another very good reason that you should not arm your crime scene techs--but leave the police work to ...I don't know...policemen?

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Posted Oct 21, 2011 @ 2:24 AM

Greg was so over the top. He's know her for what, 3 months tops?

Nice and realistic that Morgan was willing to be hugged for a moment by Conrad but couldn't stay and be comforted by him.

Can idiot daughter be charged with anything?

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Posted Oct 21, 2011 @ 8:48 AM

Mertensia, idiot daughter can be charged with attempted murder of a cop. She knew Morgan was on that chopper and sent it to the ambush anyway. Even though she did not pull the trigger, she actively participated in the conspiracy. That makes her as guilty as the guys who did pull the trigger. Oh, except they are dead, leaving her to take all the blame. Oh darn.

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Posted Oct 21, 2011 @ 12:54 PM

This was a good, solid episode -- story-wise and performance-wise, especially by Ecklies, both Dad and Daughter. As miashay noted above, because Morgan is the New Kid, there was suspense because they MIGHT kill her off. I liked how the team came together to figure things out. Ted Danson continues to impress...

And while Greg does seem to have a crush on Morgan, his reaction was also due to "that shoulda been me!" guilt...kind of like Warrick, when Nick got nabbed and buried -- IIRC, it should have been Warrick.

I hope Evil Daughter Samantha enjoys her lengthy prison term...somehow I doubt that after she was responsible for getting a bunch of them killed, that her "family" the Mad 10's are going to be visiting much.


And don't forget thingummy, who died on her first day.


Holly Gribbs?

Edited by annsterg, Oct 21, 2011 @ 1:00 PM.


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Posted Oct 21, 2011 @ 10:42 PM

Count me as another who doesn't like Morgan. And I find the actress's eye makeup distracting.

I also didn't like the actress who played Samantha. I think she was miscast.

Still loving Danson. He has more than fulfilled my expectations.

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Posted Oct 22, 2011 @ 1:58 AM

Just watched. Enjoyed well enough, but wasn't remotely worried about Morgan. It might've been more suspenseful as a late-season episode where it's more likely to end a character. That would've also given time for Greg to bond more (even if just professionally) to explain that strong outburst. (Hodges also had a line that rang a little odd, but hey, it's Hodges.) Nevertheless, it isn't a late-season episode; it's the fifth episode. Feels like they're pushing / rushing the character too much. Hopefully there's reason for it?

Also, I sort of mused the idea we could have two new recurring characters. But no! Crash! Dead! TRAGEDY!

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Posted Oct 22, 2011 @ 2:08 AM

Also, I sort of mused the idea we could have two new recurring characters. But no! Crash! Dead! TRAGEDY!


Yup, I really liked those medics, stands to reason they'd die - reminds me of last year's hot bomb tech.

Count me as another who doesn't like Morgan. And I find the actress's eye makeup distracting.


For me it's her glossy, glossy lips - just irritating. And I wasn't that invested in her.

But Greg losing it was beyond hot. "Bitch!" I love Eric Szmanda!


I also didn't like the actress who played Samantha. I think she was miscast.


She reminded me a bit of early Eliza Dushku, but did seem kinda blank. And the CSIs were being slightly naive - you have one girl in the hospital who's terrified of the Mad 10s and can't get out of their influence, and you believe Miss Internet Porn when she says "she's out of that life now"?

Whatever. Next! Something with Greg being all angry and hot, please.

Edited by Arjumand, Oct 22, 2011 @ 2:12 AM.


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Posted Oct 24, 2011 @ 1:19 PM

Nice and realistic that Morgan was willing to be hugged for a moment by Conrad but couldn't stay and be comforted by him.

I loved that everything wasn't magically solved between them. So often when a character faces a situation like this, it's like a magic wand is waved, but I appreciated that she didn't just 1) fall into Greg's arms (although maybe if she'd seen being all tough and manly she'd have second thoughts), or 2) immediately forgive her father for a lifetime's worth of angst. I mean, it's nice to think you re-evaluate at a time like that, but that kind of healing just doesn't happen that quickly.

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Posted Oct 25, 2011 @ 12:04 AM

While I'm still not sold on Morgan's character, I did enjoy this episode. I never really bought that she was in any real danger, but it was kind of fun to have an "action packed" episode with some tension.

Greg's overreaction to Morgan being potentially ambushed was comical. I know that Morgan is supposed to be a love interest for Greg (at least, that's what I thought) but it was totally overblown. He barely knows her, and there hasn't that been much of an indication any chemistry or burgeoning relationship between the two of them and his reaction to Samantha was way way way over the top.

Did like that Morgan wasn't totally reconciled with Ecklie after the overdeal, but I really bought Ecklie's relief over seeing his daughter was ok and realizing that he got a second chance, basically.

Yup, I really liked those medics, stands to reason they'd die - reminds me of last year's hot bomb tech.


Seriously. Poor guys.

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Posted Oct 25, 2011 @ 5:17 PM

RE: Calling Morgan vs sending a text...

I can't argue with the phone call, to be honest. I get texts all the time and don't bother to look at them until later. However, if someone I know is calling I always answer. Had I been on the ground in that situation, there's no doubt I would have phoned her rather than sending a text.

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Posted Oct 25, 2011 @ 8:09 PM

While I mostly did like the episode (hey, anything that has Brass busting a cap in the bad guy's ass is okay by me), I get pissed off by the whole Ecklie\Morgan thing because it's basically just another version of the Brass\Ellie thing. If they're going to go down the daughters who hate their fathers path, how about they bring back Ellie?

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Posted Nov 6, 2011 @ 6:14 PM

If they're going to go down the daughters who hate their fathers path, how about they bring back Ellie?

Ellie was way over the top. She has basically thrown her life away. At least Morgan is having a decent life, and isn't going to be spending the time until their (possible) reconciliation turning tricks and doing drugs.