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Posted Oct 29, 2012 @ 8:56 AM

I laughed for the blatant Freudian slip from Doug!


Bwah! But I still think it could be a set up. People don't have to go all the way, even if they do make out. But in TV land, adults never seem to be able to stop themselves.
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Posted Nov 25, 2012 @ 5:55 AM

KRISTEN...
Donate $26 or more right now so I can take the lead and you'll have a chance to win a House of Lies script signed by me and the cast.


The cast and crew of House of Lies lead by KB are asking for donation from Mozilla Firefox Challenge to help Somaly Mam Foundation. You can check out the details by clicking the link.
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Posted Nov 26, 2012 @ 12:16 PM

Has the upcoming season been filmed yet? I read that Kristen Bell is pregnant & I'm wondering if they'll have to write that into the storyline, or if she planned well enough that it won't be an issue. Congrats to Kristen & Dax!
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Posted Nov 26, 2012 @ 1:31 PM

Yep, it has been filmed. KB and the rest cast are filming even when she's pregger. There are bunch of on set pictures with her baby bump. If you have tumblr (or just google them), paps been posting them. Don't know about the rest of the story though.
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Posted Dec 13, 2012 @ 9:31 AM

Golden Globe nomination!
Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series - Musical or Comedy: Don Cheadle
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Posted Dec 14, 2012 @ 2:00 PM

Don Cheadle on his Comedy or Musical Series Actor nomination for House of Lies:

”I’m over the moon for the nom. This is a great show and a great cast and this is a recognition of all of us… But mostly me.”


Heee...!

In other news, The OC Alum Adam Brody is joining HoL as Jeannie's love interest. And also, Ryan Devlin from Veronica Mars also guest starring. I can't believe Mercer the rapist is going to be with Veronica again. She's going to bitch slap Mercer. I am so looking forward for the new season.
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Posted Dec 21, 2012 @ 4:35 PM

Ben Schwartz posted this announcement on his Tumblr page: House of Lies Season 2 Sneak Peak Scenes!

Showtime has released some new footage of the upcoming season of House of Lies in anticipation of the beautiful season two premiere on January 13th at 10pm! We are so proud of what’s coming up in the next twelve episodes and can’t wait for everyone to see where the show goes.

Boundaries (Clyde’s Two Girlfriends)

The Running Man (Marty and Jeannie Do the Running Man)


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Posted Dec 23, 2012 @ 3:38 AM

Okay, this is not a spoiler, but a promo video. Although they showed a GLIMPSE of something, I couldn't see what the hell happened between Jeannie and Marty - whether they were sleeping or not, I think they were fooling around. And I THINK Jeannie was wearing a strapon or something. I DON'T KNOW whether it's true or not, but I just LAUGHED so hard.

Marty Being Polite

I think (speculation from my part NOT a spoiler), Jeannie and Marty were gonna do it and they were fooling around but they couldn't do it for some reason, so he went to his ex-wife and banged her, and Jeannie broke up with her fiancee.
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Posted Jan 13, 2013 @ 9:12 AM

Matt Damon is heading to “House of Lies.”

The Promise Land actor will play himself in an episode on the Showtime series, Showtime Entertainment president David Nevins announced Saturday at the TCA winter press tour.

Damon will seek the help of Marty (Cheadle) and his team in setting up a charitable organization to compete with George Clooney.

“House of Lies” season 2 premieres Sun. Jan., 13 on Showtime


Matt Damon![/team america]

Did anyone get a Veronica Mars vibe from the sneak peek? I sure as hell did!

Sneak Peek (Jeannie has
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Posted Jan 13, 2013 @ 12:38 PM

Don Cheadle looks significantly older in the previews I've seen. Maybe it's because he's lost weight - he looks as lean as a greyhound.
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 1:17 AM

Kevin Dobson! I kept thinking, "That guy looks like Aidan Quinn, but it's not Aidan Quinn. Who the hell is that?"
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 1:43 AM

Really could have done without the push-ups scene.

Is "Meg Whitman/Carly Fiorina" going to be a long-term interim? Sorry they had to get rid of Marco.
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 7:59 AM

Really could have done without the push-ups scene.

I had given on this show last season because I didn't like the 4th wall breaking hijinks. I like Cheadle, so I gave this one a run to see if it changed any. So now they have gone off of the other end grossness?
Renard you didn't like the pushup scene, how did you like the "street" scene?

Edited by TWoP Howard, Mar 27, 2013 @ 3:22 PM.
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 12:24 PM

Renard you didn't like the pushup scene, how did you like the "street" scene?


In general not bothered, at least as much. Urination is normal whereas vomiting is the result of something going wrong. But since you made me think about it, hear are my thoughts:
1) The amount seem excessive.
2) What is the timeline? It seemed the Jeannie was urinating also and from the context, it seemed that she didn't remove her panties, so presumably they were now urine-soaked and it probably ran down her legs-general mess.
3) She did mention at the office that she realized at some point that she didn't have on panties after "whatever" happened. She was shown to be wearing bra and panties when she and Marty were in the hotel room? partying, dancing and doing aforementioned push-ups. When she collapsed on top of him, she was still wearing both.
4) What happened when they woke up on the floor? How did they get dressed and presumably back to their respective homes without any memory of what had happened or where they started out, i.e. on the floor in their underwear laying on top of on another with a pile of vomit in front of their faces? If they had remained "conscious" but profoundly drunk and each gone home on their own, then collapsed and passed out, I could see them waking up in their respective beds and asking how they got their and what had happened the night before. If I wake up mostly naked entangled with a co-worker in a trashed room, I'm waking the other person up then and asking what they remember. It seemed obvious during the conversation walking into the office that they hadn't "spoken" or maybe even seen each other since they before passed out. Marty was very coy so maybe he woke up early, rolled her over or even dressed her and took her home while she was still passed out and he isn't saying what he remembers but that seems a stretch (everything except the fact that he isn't talking).

5) Probably more questions and contradictions but don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole.
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 3:13 PM

Enjoyed the first show of the new season. Don't know how long period elapsed between the taping of the 1st and 2nd seasons but the kid that plays Roscoe definitely had a growth spurt/hit puberty during that period. Hope to see more of him this season.
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 3:24 PM

Marty was very coy so maybe he woke up early, rolled her over or even dressed her and took her home while she was still passed out and he isn't saying what he remembers but that seems a stretch (everything except the fact that he isn't talking).

I guess he could have done this. I know that he has had practice - from the first episode of season 1 where he dresses his naked ex-wife before his son sees her that way.
I will have to go back and see last season after say the 4th show where I gave up. it seems that this show has gotten crazy of late. I can think of a lot of situations that I would like to see Kristen Bell in and not one of them involves her peeing even a little bit.
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 7:33 PM

They definitely focused less on the consultant/business side of things, which was a little disappointing - I feel like that was a pretty strong point of the show last season. That said, given the way last season ended, they definitely had some tying up of the loose ends to do. I'm a bit surprised that they took Jeanie's feelings about Marty as far as they did. I feel like this is going to be a simmering undertow of this season, but I do hope that both Marty and Jeanie get a chance to do their own thing and not be together anytime soon.

Monica sobering up and going to AA is a bit of a stretch for what is supposed to be a 2 week (I think?) elapse in time from the end of last season - that just felt quite out of character, given that she seemed crazy as ever at the end of last season.

There's potential for the Meg Whitman character to be interesting, but they'll have to re-develop the broader office dynamic since they blew it apart at the end of last season. If they end up just focusing on the Pod exclusively, that would be a bit of a shame.

In all, a decently solid start, but I do hope they filter in more of the business side of the show throughout the season. And I can agree with those who felt the puking while doing pushups was a bit overboard...but the public urination was kind of funny (even though it's gross). And congrats to Cheadle on the win last night - definitely a surprise given who he was up against, but he is a fantastic actor. Both he and Bell really give this show two strong centers that it can orbit around. Given how much of Jeanie's life was ripped apart, it will be interesting to see if she can still be a central character without getting tied up as the girl who hopelessly pines over Marty.
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 9:46 PM

They obviously felt they needed to refocus the series, but they got caught up with plot points instead of bringing up new themes.

I'm not looking for The West Wing, The Good Wife, or ER here. What I enjoyed about last season was Ben Schwartz's unabashed smoothness, the Pod's last-second bullshit saves; their cleverness and skills being challenged by Marty's ego getting out of control and Marty's self-destructive streak, portraying a man who's gone so far into a world of hype that he's forgotten to find anything for himself that's real. Jeannie's character was intriguing last year too, and I was looking forward to seeing her traverse the path that Marty has walked and potentially mirroring him, allowing them to teach themselves about each other. This is a show that's at its best when it is dark, and it's less good when it's raunchy or gross.

In the first episode, what we got was way too many flashbacks (with corny flashback transitions) of an unresolved plot point that went almost nowhere. I didn't get anything from the majority of them because the characters didn't. This was really an appalling weakness, now that I think about it, because it pushes the show into straight-out daytime soaps territory, all of which play the audience for cheap reactions.

The way they narrowed down the identity of Mr. Pinkus was a little insulting, too, what with all the flash cards for the audience.

On the other hand, the parts relating to the case were mostly good, and new, because I don't think we've really seen the pod under that kind of time stress before, to the point where it was doubting its ability to pull through. There is the possibility of forging some new dynamics there. And I am generally in favor of long-term plots, and I got the sense that we would be on the casino engagement for awhile, which could lead to better viewing. I also enjoyed watching Marty's isolation when he saw Clyde's empty-headed whores at the nightclub.

Why was Jeannie working with Marty on the case? Wouldn't being promoted mean giving her her own pod?
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Posted Jan 14, 2013 @ 10:18 PM

Why was Jeannie working with Marty on the case? Wouldn't being promoted mean giving her her own pod?


At first it sounded that way but as they talked and mentioned that it was a non-promotion promotion to keep her from suing, I believe it is mostly a paperwork position where she somehow monitors and coordinates the engagements and activities of all the pods, keeping track of utilization, resources, billables, etc. and reporting to senior management.

Clyde's bimbos aside, I'm getting the feeling that bar will become a regular hang-out, at least for the pod if not the office and visiting clients as well. Also the casino/Vegas? will probably be a regular location.

ETA: Jeannie clearly says "When I left the hotel, I didn't have any panties" or something like that. So presumably she woke up dressed, got up and walked out; Marty must have already left.

Roscoe MUST work on his harmonizing. FAIL!!!

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Posted Jan 15, 2013 @ 8:42 AM

Roscoe looked fantastic! I don't buy that Monica is suddenly centered and sane. It's just a matter of time before her train goes off the rails again.
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Posted Jan 16, 2013 @ 12:27 PM

I don't get it. I just don't get it. Where this LOVE suddenly coming from? From where? Suddenly Jeannie realizes that she has feelings for Marty? Because... WHAT?! Because they both are broken people?

The grossness doesn't bother me much, after all they referred to this show as sophisticated filth. But I am concern with the train wreck and the emotional roller coaster they're having.

Definitely got the Veronica Mars vibe with the chlamydia.
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Posted Jan 16, 2013 @ 8:49 PM

I don't get it. I just don't get it. Where this LOVE suddenly coming from? From where? Suddenly Jeannie realizes that she has feelings for Marty? Because... WHAT?! Because they both are broken people?

I think Jeannie having some sort of feelings toward Marty was evident throughout season 1. At first, I mistook it for mere hero worship which it still is in part, but I can see how there is more or how Jeannie could interpret those feelings as more. Jeannie's characterization is one of S1's success stories and that was continued into the premiere although I could have done with less lame flashbacks and the barfing. Definitely could have done without the barfing.
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Posted Jan 19, 2013 @ 3:53 PM

At first it sounded that way but as they talked and mentioned that it was a non-promotion promotion to keep her from suing, I believe it is mostly a paperwork position where she somehow monitors and coordinates the engagements and activities of all the pods, keeping track of utilization, resources, billables, etc. and reporting to senior management

I don't think it's even that, just a change in title.

Man, Roscoe had a serious growth spurt. And the waitress he sung with looked familiar, although I can't remember where I've seen her.

Monica sobering up and going to AA is a bit of a stretch for what is supposed to be a 2 week (I think?) elapse in time from the end of last season - that just felt quite out of character, given that she seemed crazy as ever at the end of last season.

Like someone mentioned, it won't last. Plus I can see her trying to grow up and mature now that she has Roscoe living with her.

I enjoyed the premiere and I think Marty and Jeanine totally had sex and Marty's pretending he can't remember if they did or not.
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Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 9:55 AM

I think Jeannie having some sort of feelings toward Marty was evident throughout season 1. At first, I mistook it for mere hero worship which it still is in part, but I can see how there is more or how Jeannie could interpret those feelings as more.


Hmmm, that's what I thought too... I mean, the whole hero worshiping. But not LOVE. I don't know, it's just me. But they are really wrong for each other (which is why makes sense they're together in the end?) because they're too alphas. I kinda like Jeannie with Gregg (hahaha). And I like Marty with the stripper whose name I just forgot, but she was fantastic with him. I really liked both of them, and not really liking when they broke up. I was so upset.

I'm looking forward to see what happen next, but I'm biting my fingernails right now. Damn, show. You manage to screw my emotion like this.
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Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 10:05 PM

I saw the episode as more of a coda than a new season starter. I mean, they ended on an issue that I expected to be addressed. I don't mind the flashbacks. I still don't think they had sex even though the episode seems to be leaning towards that they did.

I do think Marty remembers that Jeannie said it, and he's just trying to sweep it under the rug. It seems a guy like him doesn't really have blackouts.

The Vegas plot looks interesting.
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Posted Jan 21, 2013 @ 1:09 AM

Jeannie and Marty make a lot of sense to me. Smart, competitive, brutally honest when it really counts. Plus there's the joy of moving to the same rhythm. They get each other and enjoy each other. Their last scene of last season really demonstrated that. That said, it would be train wreck. Maybe not as bad as his first wife because Jeannie isn't a psycho, but cut her bad enough and I think she would come after you with all her weapons.

Of course now that the thrill of the chase is gone, I see Marty getting bored. He's kind of an ass that way even if he's played by the delightful Don Cheadle. In fact I think that's the only reason I can stand the character. That and his adorable son.

I do love that Kristen Bell is finally getting writing worthy of her sharpness. Being the only girl in the room suits her nicely. She's not a girl with female friends.

And yeah for Bess Armstrong getting a good role!
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Posted Jan 21, 2013 @ 3:47 AM

Woot, I like this episode. Ohhh myyyy... that last scene just asdfghjkl!

I swear, I am not a fan of Marty and Jeannie pairing, because I hate to see them hurt (mostly for Jeannie's sake). Wow, I wanna slap Jeannie sometimes, because she's super bitch. She is a female Marty. But I still want her to be happy or something, haha. Okay, now I am waiting for
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Jeannie and Marty make a lot of sense to me. Smart, competitive, brutally honest when it really counts. Plus there's the joy of moving to the same rhythm.


They're too alike, and they will destroy each other just like Marty and Monica. And for my sake, I don't want Jeannie to be pregnant with Marty's baby because that would make a mess for my brain. I swear, if they go to that direction, I am gonna be super pissed.

Doug and the shrimps made me laugh because I have a friend like him. "I just paid $7.99 for shrimps!"

I am so GLAD that they put the whole breaking the fourth wall thing to the down low, like very very low. I didn't see any Marty scene talking to the camera, thank God.

And Don Cheadle in Vegas? Bring Matt Damon and George Clooney please, so we can have a mini Ocean 11 reunion!
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Posted Jan 21, 2013 @ 11:38 AM

I guess we were right about the casino plot being carried through several episodes. What bothers me is that things just aren't moving as quickly as they did in S1. You can stay in one place, but things have to happen. For example, they introduced Tamara (Nia Long, of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air fame), but there's no hint of her angle, and I assume that the payoff is that she's going to fuck up Jeannie and Marty's relationship. That makes her a plot device, not a character.

Jeannie and Marty are just awkward.

Doug's thing with the shrimp and card-counting was easily the highlight.

Other positives: Marty's save when Tamara spoke out of turn looked practiced, smooth, and honest. Jeannie's mistake of assuming the hostess would be able to hook her up with a guy. Drunk!Jeannie. And Jeannie's encounter with the Meg Whitman character was just sharp.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 @ 12:45 AM

Oy, Jeannie doesn't like being around the girls does she? I was going to call BS on her bitching out Tamara but in hindsight for one, she was right, and the guys do that to one another all the time, so fair is fair. I liked all the jokes about her sleeping with the boss too.

Before Pinkus trashed them for the social media idea, I was saying he wasn't going to go for it. You could tell he was really old school in the scene where the guys and Tamara meet him in their office. The social media concept is a good idea, but it's the wrong person to pitch it to. It just wasn't smart to air that out in front of the client. She should have confronted Marty in private really.

And really, I don't trust politicians to agree the sun rises in the east, much less that online gambling is a "done deal." Except when it isn't.

I don't know where they are going to go from here. Play the two casino guys off each other? Pitch the social media to the other guy? I like that this is a multi part story.

I was really surprised too that Marty said he loved Jeannie. I hope they are going to unfurl that entire night for us. But I agree those two would probably kill each other if they were together.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 @ 8:53 AM

I think this episode much better than the premiere. The pacing was better without so many flashbacks (although I wonder how many times I'll have to see the sidewalk urination scene--they are obviously inordinately proud of that scene so I can't imagine we've seen the last of it). The dialogue was snappier, and the Dushkin brothers were classic S1-material d-bags. I think the break from Monica and Roscoe helped--the fact that they both appeared to have aged (or changed) a year's worth in two weeks was very disconcerting and didn't help the premiere's weird feeling.
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