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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 8:08 PM

I hope heated means what I think it means...
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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 1:35 AM

Crashdown, you are awesome! You weasel great tidbits from Agent Delany. You're right, no matter what the context, heated promises to be quite wonderful. Can't wait!

Edited by spanishrake, Apr 20, 2012 @ 1:36 AM.

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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 6:45 AM

I hope it's referring to a Lana/Kalinda/Alicia scene--it could just be a general hint. I wish I could have written back and asked her to clarify, but spoiler beggars can't be choosers. I suppose least interesting to me would be a hot Lana/Kalinda sex scene, even though I'm sure if that happens it's going to be for good, plot-related reasons and not just gratuitous sweeps porn. (Sometimes I'm perfectly fine with gratuitous sweeps porn, but right now there are SO MANY plots that I want to see moving forward that I don't want a minute of my screen taken away from that!)
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Posted Apr 24, 2012 @ 6:37 PM

From our friend Ausiello:

Question: Any scoop on Sunday's Good Wife finale? —Hyday
Ausiello: Alicia makes a phone call that could have huge consequences for one of the main characters. It also sets the stage for a major Season 4 storyline that's been a long time coming. Oh, and for those of you hoping for a nice Will/Alicia moment, you'll get one.


I assume the phone call has something to do with Kalinda and her backstory (which is totally fine by me). And I'm happy for the Willicia folks; that's not my thing, but I have a lot of sympathy for the frustration they're feeling right now. It's a tough year to have been any kind of a shipper in the Good Wife universe!
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Posted Apr 25, 2012 @ 3:58 AM

It's probably Leela's husband. But it's odd, because in the promo they made it look like HE was calling her (Alicia), then Alicia asks Kalinda if the man is dangerous and then she point-out asks WHO that man is. Hmm...now I'm all kinds of excited on one hand and VERY scared on the other hand, based on all the tidbits we've been shown (Kalinda packing a bag with money, a big gun, K sad in the finale bending down to a little girl, etc). I hope the season doesn't end with her on the run and I HOPE she opens up to Alicia. After all if K's husband is bad and out to get her, Alicia could end up in the middle of things, and I'd like to see Kalinda protecting her by actually talking and the two of them forming a team, not:

A: "Kalinda, who is that man?"
K" ..."
A:"You're being guarded again."
K:"Yes, but this time I'm protecting you, not myself"

I'm also happy about the Will and Alicia moment :) I get (kinda, sorta) what she's doing for Peter, but Will has always been there for her and loved her, so...he totally deserves at least SOME sort of recognition!
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Posted Apr 25, 2012 @ 9:05 AM

I'm thinking that season finale cliffhanger really *could* be Kalinda on the run--that "get out while you still can" anvil of the wine selling woman was ominous. This finale is going to be nuts. Here's what they need to cover:

  • Introducing the new threat, which I agree is probably Kalinda's husband
  • Somehow (?!?) tying that to Lemond Bishop
  • Having Alicia feel conflicted about her relationship with Peter
  • Completing the old house drama
  • Showing us some sort of Kalinda/Peter something, as alluded to by Matt Czuchry
  • Having Peter make a decision that will greatly affect his chances in the gubernatorial race
  • Giving us information about Jackie and the stroke of genius
  • Finish repairing the A/K friendship
  • Giving us a nice A/W moment
  • Last but not least, finding time for a major case in which Patti Nyholm and Louis Canning team up to destroy Lockhart/Lyman
I mean, there's baroque, and then there's INSANE. But my DVR informs me that Sunday's episode is an hour and one minute, so that's good. That extra minute will undoubtedly make all the difference!

Based on previous spoilers, I'm thinking that the season might end with a two-month time jump of some sort. I know that the Kings have said that by the end of the season Will will be back at work, and right now he has two months to go. Also, those photos from FanForum showed something that looked like Alicia moving into the empty house. (That could all be a flashback memory of her moving OUT of the house, but somehow with the new Good Wife furniture line, I have my doubts. She's getting that dumb house, and I'll just have to get used to it.) Two months would be about the right timeframe for a quick closing. So maybe Kalinda runs for two months and then we know she's ok in the two-month time jump because Alicia calls her. Maybe Alicia calls the husband back. Lots of maybes. Can't wait for Sunday!
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Posted Apr 25, 2012 @ 10:15 AM

An hour + 1 minute! YAY, excellent! Also, Alicia is supposed to be conflicted about her feelings/relationships with Peter AND Kalinda. OK, this is nuts! Is it Sunday yet?
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Posted Apr 25, 2012 @ 1:22 PM

Oh, and for those of you hoping for a nice Will/Alicia moment, you'll get one.


YES! It's about time. So glad we'll finally see something happening with Will and Alicia. Even if it's just a moment. It's a start. (Almost) this whole season has been frustrating on that front. And Will really deserves some good lovin'.
Also, it looks like Kalinda is going to have an interesting storyline. It's about time they cast her husband and start explaining her past. I'm also getting the feeling they won't wrap this IRS story in the finale.

Since this is the end of a season, I guess we'll need a lot of patience in waiting for these storylines to unfold. The payoff better be good and satisfying. And I do have faith it will be.
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Posted Apr 25, 2012 @ 1:55 PM

A group promo picture from the finale...

http://www.cbs.com/s...e-scenes/108864
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Posted Apr 25, 2012 @ 3:43 PM

Got these snippets from a recent interview with the KINGS:

Take us inside your approach to the finale and what you wanted to accomplish.
We usually think of the last three episodes as a unit– sort of the third act in a movie. Last season, the last three episodes focused on the aftermath of Alicia’s discovery of Kalinda’s betrayal. This year, it’s about Alicia’s future as a person who’s taking control of her life: seeing how it impacts the political sphere; the office; and her personal life: especially her relationship with Kalinda.

What should fans look forward to next season? And if you haven’t gotten that far yet…what would your dream season be?
The fans should look forward to an Alicia who is more in control, but finding things just as difficult. And they should look forward to a Kalinda who has to deal with the biggest threat of her life.

For the full interview, go to this link:
http://xfinity.comca...linda-intervie/
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Posted Apr 25, 2012 @ 6:46 PM

Dude, how is it that the Kings have such a terrible sense of pacing? There's enough in the finale to stretch over 5 episodes--stretch it over five episodes and eliminate the swaths of your season where nothing happens.

My Kalinda-loving heart is thumpity thump thump thumping for the finale/next season.
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Posted Apr 26, 2012 @ 12:36 PM

The Good Wife's Matt Czuchry on Cary's Return, Tension with Will and What's Next with Kalinda.



"Welcome back to the dark side."

With those celebratory words from his former rival, Alicia Florrick (Julianna Margulies), one chapter closed and another re-opened for Cary Agos (Matt Czuchry) on The Good Wife. After spending two years working for the State's Attorney's Office, Cary was welcomed back to Lockhart & Gardner on Season 3's penultimate episode.

Cary may be returning to the same firm that once canned him, but he is no longer a naïve, shroom-taking lawyer fresh out of Harvard. "He has more confidence than arrogance," Czuchry tells TVGuide.com. "The experience that Cary has been through has definitely helped him gain a greater understanding, not only in his professional [life], but in his personal life. That can't help but translate into the work he's going to do and the dynamic he's going to bring into Lockhart & Gardner in Season 4."

After engaging in a junior associate competition with Alicia during Season 1, Cary was dismissed in favor of his more connected co-worker. But instead of moving to a new city or going to another private firm, Cary went to bat for the firm's biggest opposition — and one of Alicia's greatest enemies: State's Attorney Glenn Childs (Titus Welliver). "It was supposed to be six episodes," Czuchry says. "[Cary] basically was able to show a window into that other side, which they enjoyed. That's why the writers kept it going for so long."

What started out as a brief arc turned into Cary working for both Alicia's enemy as well as her husband, Peter (Chris Noth), which Czuchry lists as one of his favorite parts of Season 3. "There is a mutual understanding and a mutual respect that Peter and Cary developed," he says. "Cary looked out for Peter and Cary admitted he was wrong to Peter. There's definitely still potential for that relationship to continue." (But viewers won't learn why Peter was calling Cary at the end of the episode just yet. "That goes unanswered for the moment," Czuchry teases.)

Cary's extended time away also allowed room for his delicate friendship with Kalinda (Archie Panjabi) to evolve into something much more complicated. "That relationship has always been fun to play and there's plenty of room to grow with those two," Czuchry says. "One of the great things about Cary having been gone for two seasons ... is that that really gives a lot of currency to the audience in building that history. In Season 2, we saw Cary protect Kalinda. But in Season 3, we saw Cary was also willing to do his job when he put her in jail. That's a pretty wide swath in terms of what their relationship has gone through. And now that they're both in the same place, that relationship has a lot of potential to be an exciting one for Season 4."

But the person Cary will have to worry about the most, it seems, is Will (Josh Charles), who Cary was forced to try to indict earlier this season. "Will and Cary are first and foremost good at their jobs and they're also both very ambitious people," Czuchry says. "In the first season, it was probably a pipe dream to think that Cary would get that junior associate position, but now with two years of cases on the other side, that is no longer a pipe dream. That really gives Cary a certain weight that he didn't have in Season 1, and I think that's bound to cause some tension for a little bit."

Cary's ambition is something to which Czuchry can relate. In addition to his long hours in the courtroom, the actor has been keeping busy off-set with his first book, Brothers On Life, which he co-wrote with his brother, psychology professor Dr. Mike Czuchry. "My weekends for the past 10 months have been spent writing this book and hiring editors and graphic designers," Czuchry says. "My brother and I have always loved storytelling, but we've written individually. Last June, it just felt like the right time."

That passion for storytelling is what makes Czuchry excited to explore the repercussions of Cary's return next season. "With Cary coming back to the firm, you create different windows and different dynamics with everyone," Czuchry says. "There's so much history because Cary worked with those characters and also worked against them. It creates a whole new dynamic not only in the firm itself, but just with each of those individual relationships."


EDIT 27/04

http://http//au.eonl...ies_love/312008

KatieLord: Please can I have some Good Wife scoop? Will and Alicia dish?
We've got dish from Will himself, but you may not like it if you're on Team Willicia. (Does that nickname exist? If not, you're welcome!) Josh Charles tells us, "What we're seeing is a sort of deepening of the relationship as they become more friends. You see it touch on that in this really lovely scene between Will and Alicia toward the end of the finale." So no elevator sex then? No, Josh laughed: "It's a different kind of finale, certainly not as racy as last season!" Wah-wah.


Edited by Florrick, Apr 27, 2012 @ 12:07 PM.

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Posted Apr 28, 2012 @ 6:00 AM

This sneak peek appears to support my time jump theory--or else Alicia is dropping acid.

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Posted Apr 28, 2012 @ 10:06 AM

Wait, so Peter is actually living in the house? And WITHOUT Alicia? HALLELUJAH!

Edited by calidub, Apr 28, 2012 @ 11:13 AM.

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Posted Apr 28, 2012 @ 1:12 PM

Sounds like Alicia got promoted to.....partner??

Also, isn't something suppose to happen in an elevator? Clearly not sex with Will (according to Josh's interview above).

I'm kinda hoping Kalinda kills LaMond Bishop in an elevator in self defense and is arrested for murder - then her past is for sure going to all spill out, and S4 will begin all about Alicia defending / saving her.

Edited by spanishrake, Apr 28, 2012 @ 1:18 PM.

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Posted Apr 28, 2012 @ 1:24 PM

They're definitely setting up (or at least giving themselves the option for) a Jackie dementia/Alzheimer's storyline next season.

Sounds like Peter lives in the house alone--how the HELL are they covering that up? Or are they not even bothering to try at this point? Side note: I continue to love the vibe they're giving Alicia and Peter. Feels very real.

Alicia must now be a junior partner. Interesting.

I'm glad the Willicia friendship, at least, will be rekindling--I don't like them as a couple but I floved them as friends.

Edited by stealinghome, Apr 28, 2012 @ 1:25 PM.

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Posted Apr 28, 2012 @ 3:56 PM

Kalinda on trial for murder actually makes all kinds of sense, given the spoilers about how next season she'll be in the fight of her life--good call. As long as she's not mad at Alicia for turning her in, I'm totally cool with it. And I'm just glad that my time jump theory seems right. I've been spectacularly bad at speculating this season, and some of my theories have been quite elaborate!
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Posted Apr 28, 2012 @ 4:25 PM

They're definitely setting up (or at least giving themselves the option for) a Jackie dementia/Alzheimer's storyline next season.


On the original thread there was some speculation about Jackie having dementia issues, I forget which episode(s) triggered the speculation, stuff near the end of season 2. If nothing else, if there is a connection to what a few of us saw as the possibility of dementia - the Kings play a long view game with story lines. I wouldn't be surprised if they knew that past a certain point they had to plot either an end game or a story the could reference from time to to time without Jackie just becoming a parody of the (not quite) ex-mother-in-law. Buying a house and clearing out a lot of her savings, or liquidating investments to do it, at her age without consulting Peter, that is a fairly erratic move.

I don't know that Alicia has made partner, its way too early, she's at the end of her third year. I think Peter was referring to the swank office on a floor with higher ranked associates and partners, Eli as looking out for her in the run up to Partner and a better than decent professional and public image. Or, provided she isn't sandbagged by Mike Kresteva, LeMond Bishop or Kalinda's ex-husband - she's established herself professionally - she's definitely not the same person who Peter was made to leave in charge when he went to Prison.

Edited by name234, Apr 28, 2012 @ 4:26 PM.

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Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 8:09 AM

I don't think there is a time jump, other than maybe a month or so from where we left off last week. Alicia has been at the firm for the last three years...that ties into Peter's comment. I don't know that he knew that Alicia's office had changed (I actually don't think he ever visited her previous office), so his congratulating her makes me think that is all that is about. Plus, they are still wearing their wedding rings and Eli has that look on his face that the two of them should be together.

It is not clear to me that Peter moved into the house...he just asked Alicia to come by and see it. I'm wondering if she does, given the pictures posted a few threads ago...it seems that the kids, Alicia and Peter are there.

Jackie recently had a stroke...perhaps more has come from that.

Also...I didn't see this posted elsewhere, but Entertainment Weekly (the April 20th/ 27th issue)had this summary for the finale:

Are we finally going to get Kalinda's full backstory? Exec producer Robert King says yes...kind of. "It's going to play into next year, but the next three episodes really open a door to another side of Kalinda," he teases. "The question is, What is the Ghost of Christmas Past in Kalinda's life?" But however much we learn about the enigmatic investigator; the season 3 finale still promises plenty of intrigue. Louis Canning (MJF) and Patti Nyholm (MP) join forces in an attempt to take down Lockhart & Gardner; now weakened by Will Gardner's (JC) temporary suspension. And Alicia (JM) and Peter (CH) face an attack from Matthew Perry's hostile Mike Kresteva. Says King, "There's nothing that reunites Alicia and Peter more than finding a common threat. - Tim Stack

Perhaps Mike makes a move....which pulls Alicia and Peter together and that prompts her to go the house.

I hope that however the show plays out tonight.....it is an overall good show. After a disappointing season, it would be good to go into next on a strong note.

Edited by ilovemoose, Apr 29, 2012 @ 8:13 AM.

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Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 9:31 AM

Thanks for that spoiler! I wouldn't call the season disappointing but the previous two were definitely better. I think next season will be better, I have hope. I'm glad Kalinda and Alicia are finally in a better place. I'm worried about Alicia getting back into the political sphere again, to me she's a bit attracted to it, to the power. I don't think she'd be doing it just for Peter this time, maybe it's to get back at Mike for lying about her, who knows. Anyway, we'll find out tonight!
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Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 11:36 AM

I don't want Lemond Bishop to be killed. Way too soon.
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Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 1:02 PM

I think next season will be better, I have hope. I'm glad Kalinda and Alicia are finally in a better place. I'm worried about Alicia getting back into the political sphere again, to me she's a bit attracted to it, to the power. I don't think she'd be doing it just for Peter this time, maybe it's to get back at Mike for lying about her, who knows.


I too have hope that next season will be better. I also like that Kalinda and Alicia are in a better place. I really enjoyed their friendship and was furious that it was disrupted. It will be good to see it again. I'm not worried about Alicia getting involved with politics, as I think she's always had an attraction to it. She had a conversation with her brother about how she and Peter agree on the same things (politically speaking). I think she likes the power, the life (to an extent), but in the past, I think she played the wife that was there, but not necessarily there publicly. Yet, from season 2, when Peter re-ran, we saw her reviewing his speeches, she picked out the tie he was to wear in the debate, she played an active behind the scenes role.

If she were to come involved again, it may not be just as the wife of a politician, but someone who is more active in the game itself. I know many disagree, but I believe we are seeing a stronger Alicia. Whatever Mike does tonight, I believe it is a strike against both of them (and perhaps their kids), so their coming together isn't necessarily one doing for the other, but them coming together equally. We've seen that a bit before, but I think we've seen it more this season.

Anyway...we'll see what happens tonight!
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Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 2:05 PM

I hope they don't go with a dementia storyline for Jackie. I like her when she's devious and devisive, an adversary to be reckoned with (and an interesting counterpoint to the type of wife Alicia chose to be). Turning Jackie into a weakend, vulnerable old woman who needs to be cared for is just blah.

Regarding Kalinda's husband, it seems like he must be a threat to Kalinda, but I wonder if he is also a threat to Lemond Bishop? I also wonder why Kalinda married this guy in the first place? Was there ever love, or was it old school Kalinda - self preservation directing her into (and out of) the relationship?
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Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 9:22 PM

So no time jump. My record for complete failure at prognostication is intact. Yay, me!
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Posted Apr 30, 2012 @ 12:46 PM

merlynkid (From the Dream Team Thread)

Because Kalinda's psycho ex-husband is a psycho. Abusive husbands go after anyone they think of helping the wife. They don't care, because in their minds it is all the ex-wife's fault anyway. "Look what you made me do."


In the EW interview regarding the third season finale, they say that things will "heat up" between Kalinda and her ex-husband in season 4. Between this and the way they talked about the "Sexual Tension" between Blake and Kalinda - I am really hoping they aren't planning on trying to make abusive, sociopathic control freakery the new sexy for television. I may stop watching the show if they try to normalize this.They have set him up to be a villain, but in the EW interview, the way they talked about it reminded me of the way they used to talk about Blake and its just so gross.

Hanoi Jane, same interview in EW, they are leaving the door open to Dementia or some cause of hallucinations for Jackie.

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Posted Apr 30, 2012 @ 4:41 PM

In the EW interview regarding the third season finale, they say that things will "heat up" between Kalinda and her ex-husband in season 4. Between this and the way they talked about the "Sexual Tension" between Blake and Kalinda - I am really hoping they aren't planning on trying to make abusive, sociopathic control freakery the new sexy for television. I may stop watching the show if they try to normalize this.They have set him up to be a villain, but in the EW interview, the way they talked about it reminded me of the way they used to talk about Blake and its just so gross.

I don't disagree, but I just want to say that I ultimately felt like the Kings played up the Kalinda/Blake (nonexistent) "sexy" vibe in interviews just because they felt like they were supposed to/to gain buzz for the show. imo, as it was portrayed in the show, the Kalinda/Blake "sexual tension" was pretty clearly shown to be very gross precisely because it was all about power and control and manipulation. So I'm hopeful the same will happen here.

(Then again, I could be misremembering because I can't stand to watch any Blake episode again. What a terrible character--and poor SP was so miscast.)
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Posted May 1, 2012 @ 12:56 AM

because I can't stand to watch any Blake episode again. What a terrible character--and poor SP was so miscast.)

Me too. Terrible. But I guess it moved Kalinda to an interesting place so if I just think about the destination and not the journey, it's more ok. LOL.

I did not like the sexual violence angle they took with Blake/Kalinda so I hope that won't be the case with Leela/husband. I'm sure Alicia, Will and Carey will be there for Kalinda, each in their own way. It's funny because for as relationship averse as Kalinda is, she has some pretty strong relationships.
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Posted Jun 4, 2012 @ 9:31 PM

A casting call for season four--some interesting spoilers.
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Posted Jun 4, 2012 @ 11:30 PM

Clarke sounds moderately interesting, Maddie is a yawn. As for Nick...

But he holds an attraction for Kalinda that she finds impossible to ignore.

Vomit.
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Posted Jun 5, 2012 @ 7:40 AM

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But he holds an attraction for Kalinda that she finds impossible to ignore.
Vomit.


x2. Didn't they already try this with Blake and it DIDN'T work? So, let's recap. We have a woman who was willing to forgive and forget her husband's sleeping with hookers and now we have ANOTHER woman who may be attracted to the person who had her running scared because of how dangerous he is. Great message, show! *rolls eyes* Just because he is "handsome, dangerous and sexy" are we supposed to just get over the fact that he is "A master manipulator, full of dark secrets Kalinda would prefer to keep hidden, he shows up in her life again wanting her back, and trouble invariably follows"?
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