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Posted Sep 14, 2011 @ 11:04 AM

Wilson Phillips Chronicles Comeback in New Reality Series

The Grammy-nominated girl group famous for hit "Hold On," featuring sisters Carnie Wilson and Wendy Wilson and best friend Chynna Phillips, will let cameras roll for a TV Guide Network reality show titled The Wilson Phillips Project.

The project would chronicle their attempt to recapture the spotlight twenty years later -- a goal that has entailed a Christmas album, tour and Bridesmaids cameo as well as an ABC's Dancing with the Stars turn (Phillips) and a judging role on ABC's Karaoke Battle USA (Carnie Wilson).


The pilot, which will also offer viewers a peek at their child-filled lives outside of singing, will premiere later this year.


What the article doesn't mention is that they have a new album coming out in January called "Dedicated", which is a cover album of Mamas and Papas/Beach Boys hits.

Edited by jw7579, Sep 14, 2011 @ 11:06 AM.

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Posted Sep 15, 2011 @ 7:21 PM

Random and interesting, in a good way.
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Posted Nov 17, 2011 @ 9:52 AM

The show is officially called "Wilson Phillips: Still Holding On" and it will premiere on November 27 (Sunday) at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT.

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Edited by jw7579, Nov 17, 2011 @ 9:54 AM.

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Posted Dec 3, 2011 @ 1:17 PM

So, who else watched this? Who else had the urge to put on her pointiest high heels and kick Chynna in the shins?
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Posted Dec 4, 2011 @ 12:32 PM

I just watched a rerun. Chynna really thinks she's special, doesn't she? No wonder previous attempts to get the band back together failed: I could barely tolerate her for 23 minutes on television, so I can't imagine having to deal with her IRL. Wendy and Carnie seem like nice enough people but that's not going to keep me tuning in. Nor will the endless squabbling with each other, their husbands (poor Mr. Carnie getting yelled at again), or watching them run around trying to juggle it all. Sorry, it's just boring.
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Posted Dec 4, 2011 @ 1:59 PM

Yep, I watched the rerun. I have a weakness for the music, but can't say another album of covers was a great decision on their parts. I also think you have to say that reality shows based on your personal life are usually a bad idea. Chynna came off semi-OK on DWTS except for her memory lapse, but this show doesn't do her any favors. I think the 23 minutes was the best part; I was afraid it was going to be an hour show. That would have been a long time with Chynna talking! I think Mr. Wendy may have decided to stay off camera-smart guy! I might have missed him though since I left the room for a few minutes.

I might watch again to see if it gets better, but I'm not sure...
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Posted Jan 16, 2012 @ 6:51 PM

The show was picked up for a full season and will premiere Sunday, April 8th.
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Posted Apr 8, 2012 @ 7:22 PM

Bumping up because the show airs in an hour.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 1:09 AM

Wow Chynna, bitch much?

I can't say I've seen full on interviews with these ladies and it's not like I know them personally. I guess I got a personae of nice, sweet girls from all the cutesie hits and girl-next-door looks they had way back in the day. And I know they're human but dayum.

I hadn't planned on watching the show, I caught it by accident, I think it was the second episode? But Chynna flipping out on Baldwin hubby about getting snipped, wth? Watching that scene I had to wonder if they were both thinking "Why should I be the one to do it? What if we divorce and want to procreate with someone else down the road?"

Also Chynna being a shit about Carnie's surgery? I can understand it, but even Wendy was nicer about it. I do have to admit it was bad timing on Carnie's part to do that before a freaking comeback show/tour!
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 6:58 AM

Is Wendy married?
I kept hoping with Carnie's surgery, momma Wilson would show up.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 9:04 AM

Is Wendy married?

I'm not 100% sure if she's married, but in one of the family scenes, they showed Wendy, a man with glasses and the four boys. I assumed the man was her husband.

I thought it was interesting how Chynna reacted to Carnie's surgery. The first episode shows Chynna pretty much doing the same thing: springing it on Carnie and Wenday sort of last minute that she was doing "Dancing with the Stars" and wouldn't have much time to record their new CD, practice, etc.

Although, to be fair, Chynna's appearing on "Dancing with the Stars" probably gave them a lot of publicity, while Carnie's scheduling of her surgery was, well, unfortunate, to put it kindly. If the New Orleans concert was 4 (?) weeks after the surgery, and she was up and moving around her house a bit, couldn't they have practiced at her house? Also, couldn't she have done the concert sitting on a stool or something? Or was the issue traveling and/or that her diaphragm wasn't strong enough to sing for a whole concert?

Edited by Picky Eater, Apr 9, 2012 @ 12:50 PM.

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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 9:33 AM

If the New Orleans concert was 4 (?) weeks after the surgery, and she was up and moving around her house a bit, couldn't they have practiced at her house?


I was a little puzzled by that part. Most lap-band patients are back to work within a week. Carnie didn't note any any complications, so that part did not make sense to me.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 11:20 AM

Yeah, for the time spent sitting looking at TV and lusting over her husband's toast, she could have been practicing. I do think she is lazy, but this is probably just a planned plot point for the show.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 2:21 PM

Got stuck watching this OnDemand last week. (You can probably guess why, haha.) Weren't they sorta' one-hit wonders? Heard somewhere that Carnie's the driving force between their group - true? Or does Chynna always attempt to take over?

So, they did a preview episode and then that was the first episode - about the weight-loss surgery? What was the deal between Billy Baldwin and Chynna (Sp?) about DWTS? Didn't hear them talk about it in the episode but thought there was something online. Didn't quite understand it. I've never seen that program (DWTS) but I take it she wasn't successful on it anyway?

WRT the parents, or at least a grandmother or two, weren't they over at Carnie's home in one scene, singing? Thought I recognized Brian Wilson at the table during that one outdoor party scene where Billy just had to get up and make the toast on-camera. Chynna certainly is the spitting image of her mother, according to the one picture they aired.

Agree, Chynna won the b* award, so far. She sprung the DWTS on them but didn't extend Carnie the same courtesy. (I know - Carnie screwed up New Orleans.) WRT the weight loss surgery, it's awful that she needs to repeat it. Great example for the public - plus, I heard she did it as a promo for this device - the lap band around the previous stomach staple or whatever. What's next in 10 - 20 years - they staple her mouth shut? WRT her recovery after surgery, I can give her a break on that. You never know and it varies from patient to patient. Sounded as if it was the diaphram - that's her instrument.

Smart move of Wendy's husband to apparently stay off camera. Wonder if that affects her cut, however. She made it sound as if she financially needed to do all of this. Can do without Billy on air. Rob, Mr. Carnie, came off well - seemed like a gem. Yeah, does he take some crap from the girls? Wendy also seemed nice. Or does her turn/conflict come up later? Stay tuned, blah.

Hopefully someone won't notice if/when they post another episode online. Bleck, yuch ...

Edited by gazerguy, Apr 9, 2012 @ 2:24 PM.

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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 4:32 PM

WRT the weight loss surgery, it's awful that she needs to repeat it. Great example for the public - plus, I heard she did it as a promo for this device - the lap band around the previous stomach staple or whatever.


Carnie is what is known as a "band over bypass" patient. When she had the gastric bypass 12 years ago, the band was not available in the US. Now that it's available, many gastric bypass patients who had that procedure a decade or so ago, are now having the band installed.

I like her openness about her weight loss and relapse on the show. It's not uncommon for people who have any medical procedure to require additional, related procedures later.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 6:04 PM

I'm (unfortunately) very familiar with medical procedures. Every time you have a surgery, you're taking a risk. I realize they have limited time but it would have been nice (IMHO), if they'd discussed what she's done to correct her issues during the last 12 years. Could have missed it but didn't hear even one comment indicating that the medical professionals work with patients to exhaust other, non-invasive options before recommending another procedure. I would assume/hope that happens but you never know.

Carnie gives off the opposite impression, IMHO. This is an important issue for many members of the public. Obviously, weight issues seriously affect health. Besides that, Carnie's admitted to receiving a financial incentive, i.e. promotional consideration, in exchange for using this device. (Don't know if it was comped or what the deal was.) Therefore, I feel it's even more important that she encourage viewers and her fans to consider other alternatives before rushing into another procedure. (Again, don't know if she rushed - just sayin' it'd be nice if she disclosed even a little more information.)

As always, JMHO, YMMV.

Edited by gazerguy, Apr 9, 2012 @ 6:16 PM.

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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 6:19 PM

I just have to SMH at her having weight loss surgery again because losing weight involves a massive lifestyle change, and it's clear Carnie never changed anything about her eating habits. I remember when she was a spokesperson for Fresh Diet - she got fired because she kept gaining weight and eating junk.

I think she needs to get to the bottom of her emotional eating before having surgery again. Bypass/lap band surgeries are pointless if you don't deal with the reasons for the bad eating habits. Those kinds of surgeries are not quick-fixes and should not be treated as such. I've lost a lot of weight (through natural means, no surgery), and I made sure I dealt with my emotional issues before embarking on any kind of lifestyle change. Carnie does not appear to have done the same. And I also have a hard time believing this surgery is a last resort for her.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 7:24 PM

I think she needs to get to the bottom of her emotional eating before having surgery again. Bypass/lap band surgeries are pointless if you don't deal with the reasons for the bad eating habits.


Yes and no. The lap-band, if it's tight enough, makes makes it physically uncomfortable to eat certain foods that just happen to be fattening. Among them are white bread and white rice-- they can swell up in the tiny band opening and the patient will be miserable for several hours afterward. So, Carnie won't necessarily need emotional changes to avoid eating those foods-- a couple of physically agonizing episodes will do that for her.

What Carnie did show plenty of last night was humility. She knows that she's made some bad choices, and seems to want to change. I really hope it works out for her.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 7:40 PM

Yes and no. The lap-band, if it's tight enough, makes makes it physically uncomfortable to eat certain foods that just happen to be fattening. Among them are white bread and white rice-- they can swell up in the tiny band opening and the patient will be miserable for several hours afterward. So, Carnie won't necessarily need emotional changes to avoid eating those foods-- a couple of physically agonizing episodes will do that for her.


Yes and no indeed. While there are certain fattening foods that are difficult to eat, the sad reality is that there are also fattening foods that are extremely easy to eat - chips, cookies and ice cream all go down very easily and the person learns how to "out eat" the surgery.

Ironically certain low caloric/low fat nutritious foods like vegetables high in fiber and lean protein are quite difficult to eat comfortably because they require a lot of chewing.

As the cliche goes, the surgery is a tool and not a cure especially after the first year or so. From the research I've read, the first year or so the patient has a real decline in appetite/hunger and so the craving for food isn't there. After about a year or so, the emotional craving/hunger returns and the patient may or may not be able to control the food intake successfully.

While I am not in favor of people living off the incomes of their parents as dissipated wastrels, I was wondering whether the Wilson girls will inherit a large amount when Brian Wilson dies. The publishing for all the music that he wrote must be a gold mine.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 7:40 PM

So, Carnie won't necessarily need emotional changes to avoid eating those foods-- a couple of physically agonizing episodes will do that for her.


Actually, overeating/binging after bypass is supposed to be painful and agnozing, too. I did my fair share of research on gastric bypass and attended support groups for individuals who went that route and were considering that procedure, and pretty much everyone explained how painful binging can be after bypass surgery, rendering them nauseous and bed-ridden. Carnie binged after her surgery, and continued doing so, so clearly those episodes did nothing to change her mind about her eating habits. I find it very hard to believe she didn't experience that side-effect at least once.

I stand by my opinion that she needs to nail down her issues before going down this route again. I don't buy that she knows how much her life needs to change. Losing weight is as much of a mental battle as it is a physical one.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 7:51 PM

I tried to watch this, but just couldn't. I wandered away into the kitchen for a snack 20 minutes in to the first episode and never came back to finish. I didn't like their music when they were popular anyway.....now I am wondering why I thought I would be interested in this show.
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Posted Apr 9, 2012 @ 9:31 PM

While there are certain fattening foods that are difficult to eat, the sad reality is that there are also fattening foods that are extremely easy to eat - chips, cookies and ice cream all go down very easily and the person learns how to "out eat" the surgery.


Correct. If the band is too tight, high-protein foods can also be uncomfortable, as can raw vegetables. The patient may then turn to high-calorie food that breaks down very easily-- cupcakes, chocolate, cookies, etc. Carnie demonstrated in her other reality show that she likes sweet baked goods, so that's a risk for her.

Edited by Reality Chaser, Apr 9, 2012 @ 9:32 PM.

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Posted Apr 10, 2012 @ 2:13 PM

Carnie will die an obese woman. All of these weight loss surgeries "fix" a physical problem but do not address the psychological reason a person overeats to the point of obesity in the first place. Her problems are just going to repeat themselves.

Edited by Candy Moocher, Apr 10, 2012 @ 2:15 PM.

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Posted Apr 10, 2012 @ 3:18 PM

I saw Carnie drinking protein shakes before the surgery, why not stick to that and skip the surgery.
Not only did she have gastric bypass, but after she lost the weight she had major plastic surgery. I remember she wrote a book about it and was discussing it on Howard Stern years ago.

Chyna seems very self absorbed. The praying she did was out of control Carnie and Wendy reaction to it was funny. It was also funny when Chyna snapped a picture of her and Wendy and Carnie commented that she wasn't included in the pic.
I thought the big com-back with Bridesmaids was a joke, it seemed like the movie was making fun of the song.
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Posted Apr 10, 2012 @ 6:32 PM

I about died laughing when Chynna referred to herself as Cinderella and Wendy and Carnie as the Ugly Stepsisters. Way to put your narcissistic personality on display there, Chynna.
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Posted Apr 10, 2012 @ 8:16 PM

Is Wendy married?


She is married to Dan Knutson. I know this only because I remember seeing her family on Supernanny a few years back.
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Posted Apr 11, 2012 @ 12:52 AM

Actually, overeating/binging after bypass is supposed to be painful and agnozing, too.


You are indeed correct.

I once worked at a hospital where a patient literally ate herself out of her gastric bypass the very day she was discharged from the hospital following the surgery.

The surgeon thought something surgically was the problem; however, on questioning, the woman had gone home and consumed BBQ pork tenderloin, white rice and several slices of white bread, all foods which the surgeon had informed her would be the very last food groups incorporated into her diet as she recovered.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I've known people who have had this same procedure and the VERY last thing they wanted to see or smell was food. I always assumed the lady who literally ate herself out of her bypass (and back in for more major surgery to repair the damage she had cuased) had to have deep emotional issues with food. Even the surgeon was incredulous that she claimed she had been "hungry" just 5 days after her major surgery for the gastric bypass.

Conversely, I know a few people who have responsibly undertaken the surgical route and have maintained their weight well and been very conscientious about taking the appropriate supplements and continually monitoring their diet so they don't have to undergo such a radical procedure again.

I agree with the fact that "repeat offenders" like Carnie need some heavy duty therapy to get their relationship with food straightened out before taking the easy way out with subjecting to their bodies to these extremely invasive (and sometimes dangerous) procedures. Initially, patients had to undergo rigorous psychological testing, counseling, and lose some weight on their own BEFORE the surgery, to get some grasp on their issues with food and to make sure, by losing weight on their own, they were capable of making lifestyle changes. Now it appears anyone who doesn't want to be bothered with nutritional education, exercise and a lifestyle change just goes for the surgery and doctors approve them.

Edited by Persnickety13, Apr 11, 2012 @ 12:55 AM.

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Posted Apr 11, 2012 @ 6:33 AM

I am betting right now, the clip of Carnie singing, "Why, why, why, whyyy?? Do I have bad gas?" will end up on The Soup this week. I rewound that about 5 times.
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Posted Apr 11, 2012 @ 7:43 AM

I could have gone a lifetime without hearing about Carnie's gas problems. She looked pretty repulsive in that scene and knowing she smelled as bad as she looked was almost more than I could tolerate.

Was never a fan nor follower of this group, but I have a mild interest in the show because of their parentage. Chyna certainly is impressed with herself. She even looks mean. Of course, since she's married to a Baldwin, a terrible, entitled attitude is probably the family standard.

Carnie and Wendy's father, Brian Wilson, in addition to his weight issues, also apparently struggled with mental illness and spent years in bed. Wendy seems fairly free of his issues, but I think Carnie is struggling against heredity with her emotional and weight problems.
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Posted Apr 11, 2012 @ 8:44 AM

I bet all of them are kicking themselves for not saving their money when WP was huge.

Chynna's hairstyle is not flattering. Neither is her personality.
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