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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 2:13 PM

Seriously, though, why throw out RAW! fish? It's almost always edible; put it in a cooler and send it to a food bank or similar. I hate to see GRR throw perfectly edible food in the trash when so many go hungry.


Edible/Not Edible. That's the litmus test that decides if food is thrown out. I've worked in restaurants and have seen much worse things happen to food before and have almost never seen anyone throw it out.

Don't believe the hype. They threw that food away because they were on TV. In the real world of restaurant food prep (where the customers can't see what goes on in the kitchen) they don't ever throw food away that easily. There is no chef Gordon department of quality control to kick dishes back to the kitchen when they don't pass muster. Once it's cooked it's served. They leave it to the customer to decide what is good or not good. Food costs money and a real world owner would probably fire any cook who threw food out like that.

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 5:07 PM

Carrie needs to STFU. Her mouth is constantly running and she talks over everybody. She's rude and ignorant.

Edited by loki1957, Aug 3, 2011 @ 5:07 PM.


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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 5:17 PM

I don't understand why GR is allowed to throw away perfectly good food for being RAW!!!!! but Monterrey got yelled at for throwing away the broccolini.

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 8:00 PM

Although just because alcohol is served doesn't mean you have to get ripped and hung over the next day. For the duration of the show you'd think these people could drink in moderation.

Eugh...I wonder what Natalie thought when she got to see that "photo shoot" again back at home.

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 8:30 PM

I am always surprised at how many hands/fingers touch the food when it comes up to the pass, testing for doneness etc. Is this typical of all restaurants??

I was asking the same thing on another thread. I'm hoping it's just on HK. It's one of the reasons I'd really like to get a look into the kitchen of a fine dining restaurant.

I'm glad Kevin Federline is still around. He amuses me for some reason.

Is that Jonathan?

So Elise’s “leadership” consisted of her standing, with her hands literally behind her back, barking out orders. I really wished that Ramsey would have called her on that, or when she jumped on Carrie’s back about the rice.

This was awful yet hilarious.

I'm with the other poster who was wondering if she's a plant. I mean who stands around like that without being coached. But, yes, you had to laugh at how ridiculous it was.

Natalie posing for pictures was just gross. She's not unattractive but it squicked me out. Maybe it's because I hate sloppy drunks.

I got a kick out of Ramsay giving James shit for wearing the lei. Then I laughed even harder when James owned it.

Seriously, though, why throw out RAW! fish? It's almost always edible; put it in a cooler and send it to a food bank or similar. I hate to see GRR throw perfectly edible food in the trash when so many go hungry.

I don't remember him throwing the food out. He usually throws it around the kitchen or smashes it to bits so there's really nothing that could be sent to a food bank. But I agree with your idea. I'm always thinking that food shows should send as much as possible to food banks.

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 8:54 PM

Eugh...I wonder what Natalie thought when she got to see that "photo shoot" again back at home.


Uh, yeah. Pretty embarrassing. Especially the part about her claiming to be a model?

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 9:08 PM

Wow, let me join the parade. I'm so GD tired of the raw food. However, I noticed when something has to, "re-fired" (sometimes we cringe here, a la casa, at the thought of food waste) or even when a dish is being done for the first time around, Gordon's all, "WHERE THE BLOODY HELL IS IT?" Well, um.. since it's been all of 1 and a half minutes, it's COOKING; probably has something to do with the laws of physics or sah-um.

I wouldn't last two seconds there bc I'd be all (heh, as the kids say) "Do you want it GD now? or do you want it fucking cooked? Your call, Gordy." Then I'd be pummeled into a bloody pulp, firmly muzzled, and escorted to another solar system.

And if that tipsy chick ever did any kind of modeling whatsoever in any shape, form, or fashion -- I'm effing Mary, Queen of Scots.

That is all.

Edited by ari333, Aug 3, 2011 @ 9:12 PM.


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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 9:20 PM

I don't understand why GR is allowed to throw away perfectly good food for being RAW!!!!! but Monterrey got yelled at for throwing away the broccolini.


The broccolini was still usable because it had only been oiled and put in a cold pan. All Monterray had to do was get the pan hot and then throw it in. So he threw it away despite there being nothing wrong with it. However, I honestly believe Ramsay would have given him a hard time either way.

Ramsay intentionally rips the meat or fish in half so that the contestants will have to start over. He wants them to cook it right the first time every time. I don't know if in reality half-cooking something, bringing it to the pass and then re-cooking it diminishes the quality but Ramsay seems to think so. So he'll intentional destroy the food so they can't do this.

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 9:26 PM

I'm still convinced that the producers tamper with the ovens and stoves remotely to create drama. These are (supposedly) experienced chefs and cooks, who have presumably SEEN Hell's Kitchen at least once and should know how to cook Wellingtons, risottos, and scallops, at the very least, in their sleep. But it would be such a BORING show if all the food was cooked perfectly every service. ;)

And Natalie's "photo shoot"? Maybe she did modeling once, but she definitely hasn't got the figure for it anymore. At least one of the pics they freeze framed on near the end was a horrifically unflattering picture. I can only imagine what her reaction was seeing the episode at home for the very first time.

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 9:55 PM

I, too, am of the opinion that they tinker with the stoves, etc. I noticed that the chefs often seem *really* puzzled as to why their food is RAW(!). I think the stoves get turned off, etc.

RE: Natalie: I found that whole thing to be funny. I'd rather hang out with a silly drunk than a mean one. As for her modeling days, I wonder if she meant Plus Size? I don't say that to be rude, but even if she slimmed down, she doesn't really have a "model" body.

I'm disappointed that Monty went. He wasn't the best chef, but weren't those ladies cooing over his ham dish? That should count for something. I've liked Jonathan up until now, but now I can't stand him. And I hate to put this out there, but could his little attitude possibly be about race?

I also thought that one woman said she was a Presbyterian....and I could have sworn I saw her eating some of the other meat dishes!

My 20th reunion is coming up; I hope they don't have chefs from Hells Kitchen catering it!

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 10:06 PM

I stepped out and missed a few seconds, but from what I understand it went like this with the Blue Team's fish. Initially, that one dude screwed up the fish (RAW!!!) (once if not twice)

Then Monterrey and the other dude (two of them? to replace one?) were assigned, by Gordon, to take over for the first raw-fish-dude.

If so, OK.... so the 2nd dude (re-assigned on fish replacement along with Monterrey) the 2nd didnt actually do the fish; Monterrey DID (and, yeah, ok undercooked it too.) But still, the first dude did the same thing. So why was Monterrey the one who got canned? I must have missed the pivotal few seconds; damn.

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Posted Aug 3, 2011 @ 10:56 PM

Elise. Ugh. She's one of those who goes around with a chip on her shoulder until someone knocks it off in a MAJOR way. Agree with others who said they should just gang up and treat her like shit. It's not my style really-- but damn, she's proven herself unworthy of anyone's respect.


Elise may be the only person alive who can make Russell Hantz likable.

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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 7:46 AM

Pork is the fish of the earth...

Heh. Mmm... earth fish.


God help me, but I find myself rooting for Carrie, but only because every time she says or does anything, the asshole runs over and shoots her down. I was SO hoping for a punch in the mouth at some point during this episode, and I'm a peaceaterian.

But still, the first dude did the same thing. So why was Monterrey the one who got canned? I must have missed the pivotal few seconds; damn.

As we actually got to see, Gordon already likes Paul when he said things like "I don't expect this from you!" Monterrey, on the other hand, had built up zero goodwill, and was eliminated based on his total performance and not just the brocolini/snapper issues in this episode.

Gordon usually just eliminates who he wants to eliminate, regardless of who is nominated and what happened in that particular episode. And to be fair, if I compare him to somebody like Trump who has the similar power in his own reality show, Gordon rarely eliminates somebody who didn't deserve it, and gets them pretty close to the right order when you take into account actual performance and remaining entertainment value of each person.

Edited by JTMacc99, Aug 4, 2011 @ 7:55 AM.


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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 10:47 AM

And if that tipsy chick ever did any kind of modeling whatsoever in any shape, form, or fashion -- I'm effing Mary, Queen of Scots


People call all kinds of things "modeling." She's from some small town in Kentucky, so maybe she was once in a shoot for some local department store flyer. And Kentucky always makes the list of most unhealthy/overweight states, so the standard may not have exactly been the highest, if you know what I mean.

That photo shoot was on a par with most of the behavior we've seen this season. The emotional age of these contestants seems to be about 15, with all the bickering among the women and the "who's more macho" posturing among the men.

Which makes me wonder about this deal to be exec chef at BLT Steak. It's hard for me to believe that an established New York restaurant would turn its kitchen over to any of these people after all the childish behavior and gross incompetence.

If anyone has watched this show, I don't think it would encourage them to eat at BLT Steak. Probably the opposite. I would be sitting there imagining all the F bombs flying around the kitchen, and all the raw meat dishes. I'm wondering if the restaurant has some kind of "out" in this deal, where maybe they can just pay the winner something instead. Or else, it may be a token job, like for a month. And I guess "executive chef" doesn't really do any hands-on cooking.

Edited by Northwester, Aug 4, 2011 @ 10:50 AM.


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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 10:59 AM

People call all kinds of things "modeling." She's from some small town in Kentucky, so maybe she was once in a shoot for some local department store flyer.


That's what occurred to me. There is also 'live' modeling, like car shows or local fashion shows. In any case, I found her believable, overweight or not.

Edited for spelling :-)

Edited by minicatfall, Aug 4, 2011 @ 11:02 AM.


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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 2:45 PM

Elise. Ugh. She's one of those who goes around with a chip on her shoulder until someone knocks it off in a MAJOR way. Agree with others who said they should just gang up and treat her like shit. It's not my style really-- but damn, she's proven herself unworthy of anyone's respect.


I'll tell you this. If she'd poked her finger into my face the way she did with Carrie, she'd be pulling back what was left.

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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 2:58 PM

I wouldn't last two seconds there bc I'd be all (heh, as the kids say) "Do you want it GD now? or do you want it fucking cooked? Your call, Gordy." Then I'd be pummeled into a bloody pulp, firmly muzzled, and escorted to another solar system.


My reaction to this has my co-workers wondering what exactly I'm spending my lunch hour doing. VERY FUNNY!

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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 5:59 PM

Lisah! guffawing at work ! for shame! heh. I do deserve a good pummeling, but for other reasons that shall remain unnamed.

On a different note, I was one, among the several, who made a reference to the [air-quotes-here] "modeling" issue. Actually, I should have added to my previous post that I felt a tad bit sad for tipsy girl bc I felt that the dudes were mocking her when she perceived it as tho they were flattering her. I found it both kind of sad and despicable at the same time.

Word to whoever said that just bc libations, of sorts, are offered as part of the "reward," there seems to be good reason to go with moderation. Sweet baby Jesus (with all due respect) cant these folks show some semblance of freakin restraint? Dang. There's no need to go ape-shit crazy and get almighty knee-walking, shit-faced snockered/slash/blitzed to the max as if you've never tasted or even seen an alcoholic bevereage ever before... ever in your life... EVER. day-um.

Edited by ari333, Aug 4, 2011 @ 6:03 PM.


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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 6:57 PM

On a different note, I was one, among the several, who made a reference to the [air-quotes-here] "modeling" issue. Actually, I should have added to my previous post that I felt a tad bit sad for tipsy girl bc I felt that the dudes were mocking her when she perceived it as tho they were flattering her. I found it both kind of sad and despicable at the same time.


I agree the "modeling" bit was a little uncomfortable to watch, but I saw it as a cautionary tale about why a girl should never get drunk around a bunch of guys. Men are pigs. They will always take advantage.

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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 8:05 PM

People call all kinds of things "modeling." She's from some small town in Kentucky, so maybe she was once in a shoot for some local department store flyer. And Kentucky always makes the list of most unhealthy/overweight states, so the standard may not have exactly been the highest, if you know what I mean.


Actually, we do have standards here in KY.

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Posted Aug 4, 2011 @ 9:02 PM

I'm still convinced that the producers tamper with the ovens and stoves remotely to create drama. These are (supposedly) experienced chefs and cooks, who have presumably SEEN Hell's Kitchen at least once and should know how to cook Wellingtons, risottos, and scallops, at the very least, in their sleep. But it would be such a BORING show if all the food was cooked perfectly every service. ;)


YES. I completely agree, and was saying this during the last episode.

I cringed for the alleged former "model", although it escaped me if they were mocking her (I miss these things a lot). And that hot tub looked so cheap - I think the producers put it there, don't think it was on the yacht before.

Oh, and Elise's act is getting so over the top, that I seriously am thinking she's a plant to create drama.

I hate it when they throw away food for a dumb reason. I'm glad it's not like that in real life.

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Posted Aug 5, 2011 @ 12:10 AM

Oh, and Elise's act is getting so over the top, that I seriously am thinking she's a plant to create drama.


Maybe Jonathan is a plant too? He does very little in the way of serious cooking, constantly ducking the difficult assignments. Why else would he perform so badly and still be allowed to stay?

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Posted Aug 5, 2011 @ 1:22 PM

It wouldn't shock me if the entire cast was a bunch of actors following a script. Now that I think about it, it would be shocking if most of the cast wasn't actors.

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Posted Aug 5, 2011 @ 2:38 PM

It wouldn't shock me if the entire cast was a bunch of actors following a script. Now that I think about it, it would be shocking if most of the cast wasn't actors.


Interesting observation. At the end of the day, this is reality TV and the contestants are probably chosen for their colorful personalities as much as their cooking skills. From that perspective I guess they are all actors on some level.

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Posted Aug 5, 2011 @ 10:10 PM

My theory is that most of the kitchen scenes are real (although some of the contestants are no doubt overacting to impress Chef Ramsey and/or get more screen time) and the "interview" segments they tape are pre-scripted or at least directed by someone sitting on the other side of the camera who is feeding lines and asking leading questions.

I may be wrong but that is my guess.

Edited by RavensGirl, Aug 5, 2011 @ 10:11 PM.


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Posted Aug 7, 2011 @ 12:00 PM

this is reality TV and the contestants are probably chosen for their colorful personalities as much as their cooking skills.

It would make sense to choose a number of them for their lack of cooking skills, which would make for more potential drama and fuck-ups.

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Posted Aug 7, 2011 @ 3:15 PM

It would make sense to choose a number of them for their lack of cooking skills, which would make for more potential drama and fuck-ups.


That might make sense if there was no prize at the end. But aren't they competing for a big cooking job in a fancy restaurant?

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Posted Aug 13, 2011 @ 11:07 AM

I personally think that Natalie is pretty damn cute. I also don't aspire to screwing girls who look like 8 year old boys, as most of our society does now. Magazines and TV have corrupted our eye for beauty. I've seen girls like her model and blow anything those twigs on the runways do out of the water. Was what she did in the hot tub smart though? Not really. I can see the (insecure) wives getting quite pissed at her for that. I'd bang her though :D

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Posted Aug 17, 2011 @ 6:37 PM

I personally think that Natalie is pretty damn cute.


Agreed. I think she's attractive, but also can hold her own in the kitchen and garner respect. I like her a lot.