Why do I see Cersei as a villian? Let's see.
She had her husband murdered. Sure, Robert sucked, but not like she was an innocent victim in that situation. It was a sick, twisted, fucked up marriage and over the years as they grew to hate each other they both did really awful, horrible things. She doesn't have any right to kill him. (And if he had had her killed I wouldn't have agreed with that either, for the record. Unless your spouse is Joffrey or the Mountain, I really don't think you have a right to kill them.)
I find the way she's so arrogant and looks down on everybody and acts like "well of course I sleep with my twin, nobody else could possibly be good enough for me" and treats everyone except her kids like shit not exactly endearing.
She refused to have her husband's kids and instead only had her brother's bastards, which she passed off as Robert's. (Which would be proactively evil, not reactive.) You cannot argue there was anything but malice there. Think of the pleased ways she told Ned that thank the gods they were all Jaime's. She's mighty proud of herself for that. How is that not villainous?
She had all of Robert's bastards, innocent little babies even!, brutally murdered. I get that politically getting rid of the bastards makes sense, but then why not do it sooner? Or not in a brutal, kinda public, massacre? With your own guards doing it?
Then there's everything she's done with Tyrion. Constantly threatening him for no good reason, saying all the rude shit she does to him, brutalizing a whore she thought he was sleeping with, the assassination attempt during battle. None of that is anything other than malice and Cersei jsut being a crazy bitch.
Then there's her being so rude and contemptuous of the ladies she invited to stay safe with her during the battle, and you know leaving them.
Cersei's just a big old ball of crazy villain. Nothing but bitterness, craziness, malice, (and stupidity if you ask me. All of her decisions are pretty awful and backfire). And I get that being a woman in this society sucks big time and she's been a victim of that and all ... and yet so have all the other women we've seen and none of them are like her. She's just a horrible, terrible, awful, selfish, self-centered, somewhat evil person.
Honestly, if she were a man, I think she'd be Littlefinger, you know if she had any skill at playing the game. But yeah, she's as horrible as he is, if you ask me.
I just can't understand how people could defend her. Makes no sense! Look at what happened to the Hound and how he turned out, and he's pretty much universally acknowledged as scary and while not a villain necessarily people don't act like he's just a poor, innocent little victim. So why is Cersei, who's done a lot more bad shit than the Hound at this point, completely innocent of all wrong doing?
(Getting stalked and peeped by crazy kid, her poor son gets attacked by malicious wolf, husband drunk and abusive, getting out of her arranged marriage by arranging husbands death, nosy Ned Stark sniffing around in her sex life, Stark starting another rebellion because he wants to protect the Baratheon's rebell birthright..., finds herself beneath another male king she has no control over, getting ridiculed and pushed around by her dwarf brother and a whole lot of love for her children throughout the whole thing!)
Bran wasn't trying to stalk her or peep, obviously. Kid was like 10 and had no idea what was going on, so he went to investigate. That's an innocent victim there, not the Lannisters.
I don't think she had any right to kill Robert, that's nothing but completely wrong. Not like he treated her like Joffrey treats Sansa or how Viserys treated Dany. Again, not a good marriage, but it's not like Robert brutalized and terrorized her and spent 17 years abusing the shit out of her while she did nothing. Come on.
Ned Stark was only sniffing around her sex life because of the high treason she committed in passing off her bastards as legitimate royal children of his best friend. Again, Cersei is totally the wrong in this one, not the Stark.
How can Joffrey's birthright be stolen when it doesn't exist? She knows that. Better than anyone, she knows her kid has no claim to the throne. So again, people aren't wrong, in this society, to rebel against that. Stannis is the lawful, rightful king. Joffrey has absolutely zero right to the throne.
And how did Tyrion push her around? Sure they both said mean shit to each other, but they're Lannisters that's how they roll when dealing with family apparently. The only thing Tyrion did was ship off Myrcella, which kept her safe. Brutalizing Roz and ordering an assassination attempt are nothing but her being awful.
Sorry, I don't mean to rude, but I just really cannot possibly wrap my mind around how Cersei is the innocent or wronged party in any of those cases. As a woman in this society, sure. With Tywin as her dad, absolutely. Losing her mom at a young age, you bet. But none of that in any way excuses or mitigates her evil actions and murders, IMO.
Edited by emjay1116, Jun 5, 2012 @ 5:08 PM.