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[TWoP Dietrich]

This episode is available on HBOGO right after episode 6 airs, but not everyone is going to be able to see it until it airs on television. So this thread is for discussion of Episode Seven by people who have seen it. Here are the specific rules:

• Only discuss Episode Seven in this thread. In other threads, Episode Seven details are spoilers until it airs on television.
• Episode Seven details are not spoilers in this thread. So if you haven't seen it yet, don't complain if this thread gives things away.
• Please don't post while watching the episode. I've set this thread to open thirty minutes after Episode Six ends, but please follow the rule of watching the show, then posting.
• If this turns out to be an episode where something huge and important happens, please be extra-careful about not spoiling other people.

[KatieJo]

I know we're not supposed to post before seeing the episode, but I wanted to see if anyone else has been able to load HBOGO. I've been trying for 30 minutes, and no dice. What about you guys, any luck?

[john68]

I can't get it to work either. I already had HBOGO on my Android phone and it's working fine. I just need to fight the temptation to watch.

[KatieJo]

I've been using the ap since it came out, with no major problems. I mean, it's great that the show is so popular that the fans crashed their servers, but they probably should had a back up plan for this eventuality. Fail, HBO.

[ljp]

I just started the episode on the ipad app with no problems. You might try again now-perhaps they corrected the issue.

[KatieJo]

iPad ap still not working. I may or may not be getting it to load on the website. It's still optimizing, for the second time. :\ It's a really good ap generally speaking, so this is kind of a downer.

Edit: Wait, just kidding. Website's down too. Way to go, HBO!

Edited by KatieJo, May 22, 2011 @ 10:00 PM.

[TWoP Dietrich]

I was worried that being a Comcast user, I wouldn't get to see it. Because I have to use "XFinity" and can't directly access HBOGO.

Turns out that not only is Episode Seven on XFinity, but it doesn't have the access troubles that HBOGO apparently has! Nice work, everybody.

[Sad Doctor]

If you're having problems you might want to try increasing the size of your cache - the HBO player is really, really bad about setting the default cache size too small, which causes all kinds of artificial difficulties.

[KatieJo]

From HBOGO's Twitter feed:

HBOGO HBO GO @johnblaze419 Overwhelming demand will do that. Apologies, friend. The Game of Thrones Ep. 7 preview will be available all week at HBO GO.
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HBOGO HBO GO @yosemity71 We do recommend trying again tomorrow. Thanks for your patience.
13 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

HBOGO HBO GO
Having trouble watching Game of Thrones Ep. 7 at HBO GO? Apologies. We're working on it and will let you know when it's available again.
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Tomorrow, huh? Somewhere out there, the HBO marketing department is collectively pulling their hair out.

TWoP Dietrich, I am SO jealous,lol.

[Valaryaz]

Well, I can't even register. The link to "prove" I subscribe is broken and has been all week. I hate that site, and am so jealous of you that can watch this!

[Kalamity Kat]

It's a big late now, but if people are still having problems with HBOGO and have Comcast, Xfinity also has episode 7.

[Bookrat]

I saw the episode and here are my feelings and questions.

Loved the symbolism of the beginning, the lion totally gutting the dead stag. So was the bald guy basically saying that the squire did poison the king by saying "don't blame the squire ?" because that is what I got out of it. See what happens when you're mean to your squire who is related to the Queen. So the lion did kill the stag.

And I am confused. Why did Littlefinger, while he disagreed with Ned and did not want Stannis as King, say he had the gold to pay the soldiers and let Ned think that he would help him? Why did Littlefinger betray Ned? Is he hoping to get Cat back? Won't this make Cat hate him instead? Is he hoping that he can somehow control Joffrey? I don't understand his motivation.

Also, if Ned is arrested for treason, won't that mean that Joffrey won't marry Sansa? I mean, would the Queen allow her son to marry a girl whose father she has arrested for treason? What will Sansa do? Will she go back to Winterfell? How many people did Ned tell about Joffrey? Did he include those facts in the letter he sent to Stannis?

Edited by Bookrat, May 22, 2011 @ 10:30 PM.

[Titus]

I just finished watching it on HBO Canada/Rogers on Demand for those in the Great White North. The shit has truly hit the fan now! Poor Ned, whose stoicism and unbending loyalty to honour and duty is his greatest virtue but also his greatest vice. The Lannisters' double cross over him in the throne room was incredible to watch. RIP King Robert too. And it was cool to get introduced to Tywin Lannister, oh so subtly skinning and gutting a stag (sigil alert!) in his opening scene.

And I am confused. Why did Littlefinger, while he disagreed with Ned and did not Stannis as King, say he had the gold to pay the soldiers and let Ned think that he would help him? Why did Littlefinger betray Ned? Is he hoping to get Cat back? Won't this make Cat hate him instead? Is he hoping that he can somehow control Joffrey? I don't understand his motivation.

I'm sure Littlefinger thinks he can somehow twist things around to make him seem innocent of the whole affair. Ned should have never trusted him and indeed, Littlefinger did warn him of that when they first met.

Edited by Titus, May 22, 2011 @ 10:30 PM.

[KatieJo]

I give up. I think I'll wait until Sunday.

And yes, I am writing this one-handed with my other hand over my eyes. Enjoy everyone!

[Luckster75]

I watched on hbogo and had no problems.

Like Tutus said the shit has hit the fan. So much hate for so many people after this episode. I'm tempted to read the books to make sure the people I hate get what's coming to them.

Joffrey is a punk ass bitch and so is his mother. I think her little stories about Robert and Ned's sister are supposed to make me feel sorry for her, but I don't. Hate her.

Last thing Robert did was a a smart thing. Too bad it didn't work out. Poor Ned is screwed, isn't he?

Bookrat, I thought the same thing about Littlefinger, had to be a about Ned's wife. Or maybe he can't control Ned like he can other people? Who knows.

Edited by Luckster75, May 22, 2011 @ 10:33 PM.

[scarlett45]

I am still trying to watch. I have not been able to get past the credits. GRRR. I will not go to bed until I see episode 7!

Still won't work.....I'll try again in the middle of the week.

Edited by scarlett45, May 22, 2011 @ 11:33 PM.

[littlebutterfly]

Took about 20 minutes to get into HboGo, but it ran smoothly after that.

Nice to meet Tywin Lannister, although he's not what I pictured.

Ned is so stupidly honorable, and honorably stupid, it hurts.

One thing I was concerned (based on the first episode) wouldn't come across on screen was the growing affection between Dany and Drogo, so I'm glad to see that has been pretty accurately portrayed.

ETA: Loved Sam going with Jon to make their vow to the Old Gods. It's been a long time since I read the books, but I don't remember their friendship seeming so strong this early.

Edited by littlebutterfly, May 22, 2011 @ 10:39 PM.

[Onelasttime]

And I am confused. Why did Littlefinger, while he disagreed with Ned and did not want Stannis as King, say he had the gold to pay the soldiers and let Ned think that he would help him? Why did Littlefinger betray Ned? Is he hoping to get Cat back? Won't this make Cat hate him instead? Is he hoping that he can somehow control Joffrey? I don't understand his motivation.

It's funny - he had one of the longest scenes in the episode explaining his motivations and i'm still not sure either. It feels like he just likes to have power without being in charge. It's as if he just wants to screw with everyone in revenge.

[Impi]

It's a big late now, but if people are still having problems with HBOGO and have Comcast, Xfinity also has episode 7.

Thank you! Worked for me. I just could not get it to play on hbo go. 20 minutes to start, then poor quality that stopped every 10 secs or so.

[Valaryaz]

If anyone has Direct TV and has been able to get HBO GO to work? Please PM me details of how in hell they were able to do that? Because I have tried everything.

TIA

[littlebutterfly]

And I am confused. Why did Littlefinger, while he disagreed with Ned and did not want Stannis as King, say he had the gold to pay the soldiers and let Ned think that he would help him? Why did Littlefinger betray Ned? Is he hoping to get Cat back? Won't this make Cat hate him instead? Is he hoping that he can somehow control Joffrey? I don't understand his motivation.

It's funny - he had one of the longest scenes in the episode explaining his motivations and i'm still not sure either. It feels like he just likes to have power without being in charge. It's as if he just wants to screw with everyone in revenge.

I love Littlefinger, mostly because i still haven't figured him out. He's a schemer, seemingly just for the sake of scheming.

[ljp]

That first scene was disturbing, especially coming basically right on the heels of the heart eating and then the crowning. Oh Ned, why oh why did you trust Littlefinger.

Speaking of Littlefinger, I know they need to do some information dumps, but the fact that almost one giant scene per every (or every other) episode is an information dump combined with an extraneous sex scene is getting to be a bit much. Do they think the sex will distract the audience from the "telling instead of showing" of it? I know, I know, HBO!

The pace is really picking up now, I already can't wait for the next episode.

ETA:

Believe me when I say, HBO is not ADDING sex, gore, or violence to this series.

I know they aren't generally speaking, I've read the books-but a visual medium is very different. I find it interesting to see how they present backstory that was told through internal monologues and other means in the book. However, there are indeed added scenes dumping information. Among them, are the scene with Visery expounding upon dragons in the tub with the slave he bought his sister, the added Renly/Loras scene and now the two whores/Littlefinger scene. Those are ALL technically added scenes that are additional sex that was not in the books. So while a Renly Loras sex scene doesnt' surprise me, it is new. As is the scene with the two whores and Littlefinger. I was mostly amused by the fact that the scenes that are boring info dumps are being disguised as sex scenes is all. Although I was slightly disturbed by the start of the Littlefinger speech. Makes certain things way clearer earlier and in fact foreshowdows way later books much more explicitly (I would argue that it in fact states what a reader is pretty sure of but hasn't actually happened even in the books yet.
I'd have taken it to book vs show, but I'm not sure I can discuss episode 7 there yet.

Edited by ljp, May 23, 2011 @ 12:07 AM.

[Valaryaz]

Believe me when I say, HBO is not ADDING sex, gore, or violence to this series. For that matter, there is also a ton of exposition in the form of history in the books as well.

None of that is spoilery, so I hope it's OK.

I am so jealous of those of you who got to see this. I keep reading to get a sneak peak at what they are showing next.

Edited by Valaryaz, May 22, 2011 @ 11:22 PM.

[Mysticseeker7]

littlebutterfly I think they started showing the growing affection/love between Drogo and Dany for a while already. but you really saw it in eppy 6.

[Titus]

I don't mind the extra sex. It's HBO! I'm paying $17/month for cutting edge programming that I can't get on the regular networks that will include boobs and blood. Why does no one ever complain about the violence but whip out some tittays and people are up in arms?

[DoctorDogBoy]

I have the same DirectTV, HBO problem.

[Bookrat]

I noticed there were no previews for episode 8. Considering not too many people seemed to be able to view episode 7 with HBO GO, does that mean HBO won't do the same for episode 8 next week? Are they just going to show episode 7 again? There are ten episodes total right?

Edited by Bookrat, May 23, 2011 @ 12:01 AM.

[TargetDemo]

hbogo/DirecTV failed for me with chrome, firefox, and IE 64 bit. Use IE(32 bit) I'm in! Back later to post comments in this space....

Well then. As a non-book viewer, I am shocked Jon Snow is going to be a steward and not a ranger. Very pleased though. What was unsurprising was his little bitchface reaction. How the says stewards are nothing but slaves right to the face of another steward. Oh, dude. You're such a tool.

I don't hate Ceresei either. I do hate this Littefinger, little freak manipulator, traitor, and wannabe bad lesbian porno director. I wonder what Jaime will do when he returns? Ceresei seems to have everything well in hand right now. Didn't need him at all for this one. As for Tyrion, I'm glad he's got this episode off. A little Tyrion goes a long way.

Why didn't Littlefinger kill Ned? Guh. Total plot device. And speaking of Ned, the chickenshit much for not telling King Robert about his heir problem on his deathbed, and making the decision for him with that player-to-be-named-later on the parchment. Stupid Stark. That wasn't entirely honorable either.

That's a freaky tree. I like how the old gods roll.

Drogo threw some mighty oathing around! I get how he wants some big revenge-a-thon but hey hey, even Danerys was like, that'll do. He's all, but wait, there's more! And I did get a chuckle out of the failed poisoner getting he ass run tied naked ... to Dany's horse!

Edited by TargetDemo, May 23, 2011 @ 1:29 AM.

[Barbarossa]

I noticed there were no previews for episode 8. Considering not too many people seemed to be able to view episode 7 with HBO GO, does that mean HBO won't do the same for episode 8 next week? Are they just going to show episode 7 again? There are ten episodes total right?

I think this was just a special thing because of the American long weekend next week. After that it'll go back to normal, with eps not available until after they've aired

[Shambles]

Joffrey is a punk ass bitch and so is his mother. I think her little stories about Robert and Ned's sister are supposed to make me feel sorry for her, but I don't. Hate her.

Me too. I think the writers are Lannisters. Poor, tragic Robert got no nuance at all :(