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[TWoP Pembleton]

A progressive dinner party thrown for Susan to celebrate her move back onto the lane leads to a shocking murder. Meanwhile, Gaby is stunned to learn the identity of the mysterious man who has been stalking her; Lynette and Tom attempt to put the spark back into their marriage by spending a few days alone together at a romantic B&B; after being placed under arrest for allegedly poisoning Paul, Susan must convince the police that she was being framed for the deed by Felicia; Bree begins to suspect that her new boyfriend may be gay; and Renee is devastated when she learns that her ex-husband is getting re-married.

[Nightmare Logic]

Quick question, how many murders/deaths has Bree covered up in seven seasons?

For the first time in awhile I enjoyed the Scavo Family Drama. Maybe because I think it might be interesting for them to be broken up. Their marriage has been on life support for awhile, maybe letting it die is the right thing to do. Plus fun Lynette dating. Why should Bree have all the fun in that department?

The Paul ending was decent. Not really that much to say. But did like how it ended.

[deaja]

The ending was so predictable from the time they said there was a murder at dinner (to open the second hour). Didn't we have a similar ending Season 4 where they all covered a murder? Recycling plots much?

[brkemc]

I never noticed when so many other people said this show was going downhill until this finale. The reason? This episode reminded me of how amazing this show used to be.

That was, hands down, the best finale this show has ever put on. Absolutely amazing. In the event that this show doesn't return next season (which we all know it WILL)...I would find this an acceptable series finale as well.

Absolutely amazing acting by Felicity Huffman and Eva Longoria. Those two stole the show.

GAH! Can't get over that last scene with the cake sitting on top of the death box!

[qeratify]

I missed the first 90minutes.

I am confused, would Carlos really go to jail for that? He was clearly attacking Gaby. At worst wouldn't be some self defense manslaughter charge?

[keagan1]

Didn't we have a similar ending Season 4 where they all covered a murder?

Refresh me, please?

Edited by keagan1, May 15, 2011 @ 10:15 PM.

[brkemc]

geratify, they weren't thinking rationally because, as Gaby said, she never officially reported what Alejandro did to her, and clearly everyone from her home town thinks she is a liar. He had no weapon, and Carlos has a criminal history (including beating the hell out of someone, whatever the reason).

This would look bad on Carlos.

Keagan, Katherine killed Wayne, the ladies covered it up...sort of. Never to this extent, though. They just lied about what actually happened.

For the record, I appreciated the fact that it was our four main gals doing the cover up and the writers chose not to include Renee.

Edited by TWoP Pembleton, May 15, 2011 @ 11:17 PM.

[Iron1972]

Isn't putting the dead body in the trunk a little too similar to what Paul and Mary Alice did to Zach's mom? Will the trunk end up burried under a pool? Or perhaps in the woods next to where Katherine buried the original Dylan?

Prediction: He's not really dead, he's just unconscious. He'll regain consciousness after they bury him and he will dig his way out and then "haunt" them from "beyond the grave" (just like Richard Hart on Melrose Place). "I know what you did last summer" at the progressive dinner. :)

By the way, I LOVED THIS SEASON FINALE! Not a lot of over hyped weddings, car exposions, etc. The dark ending reminded me of the first season (which is great).

Edited by Iron1972, May 15, 2011 @ 10:25 PM.

[Modi]

Not a perfect finale, but the best since S4. I have to give TPTB credit for surprising me more than once.

I wasn't expecting Paul/Felicia/Susan to be wrapped up so quickly. It was so annoying how Paul believed everything he heard, even if it was the right thing. Also, why does there have to be a hostage situation in almost every finale? I knew Beth was going to be responsible for a death, and I figured it would be Felicia. I couldn't be happier that she's finally gone. I can't believe Susan told Paul he wasn't a killer when she suspected him of killing Martha in S1 (so his confession shouldn't have surprised her). So what happens to all the houses he bought? And why didn't Paul wonder why Felicia still had Beth's ashes after they dumped them in the river?

Way to jerk me around re: Tom/Lynette, PTB. When he came back, I actually groaned. When she started her heartfelt speech about what she felt while he was gone, my first thought was, Here we go again, now he's going to take her back. I so wasn't expecting her to admit she was relieved. Please, please, please let this separation last awhile, preferably an entire season. Doug/Felicity were fantastic in those scenes, probably their best work of the season.

How does a city employee and the owner of a failing business afford a lake house?

Gaby/Alejandro was pretty predictable--who didn't know where he'd end up as soon as they showed the chest?--but my heart started pounding as soon as Carlos (who I wasn't expecting to appear at all) saw them together. I also couldn't help but think of Gaby knocking Victor off the boat thinking that he had a gun on him even though she was defending Carlos, who wanted to confess then too.

Edited by Modi, May 15, 2011 @ 10:23 PM.

[Chicken Wing]

I am confused, would Carlos really go to jail for that? He was clearly attacking Gaby. At worst wouldn't be some self defense manslaughter charge?

I would think so. He saw his wife being attacked and he hit the man over the head to stop it. The fact that the intruder didn't actually have a weapon on him doesn't make it less of an attack. And I'd think having it been known that this man raped her as a teen would make their self-defense case worse, so ... what are they covering this up for?

Despite this gaping hole in the logic, I thought this was one of the better finales, and an all-around pretty damn good episode.

I'm glad the Paul/Felicia story is finally over. I really wasn't sure what the point of all of this was. Who exactly were we supposed to be rooting for? Yeah, Felicia is trying to kill Paul, but Paul was never the good guy. I suppose having Felicia's plan foiled, and then dying in her own accident (heh - guess Beth got the last laugh), and Paul finally admitting to someone besides Felicia that he really did kill Martha and turning himself in to prison was as good a resolution as any. And now that he's gone, I can stop feeling bad about the fact that this show actually made me feel bad for Paul Young.

Felicity and Doug knocked it out of the park with their scenes. If only Tom and Lynette could have been on the verge of divorce years ago.

Bree and Chuck the not-gay-after-all cop? Eh, whatever. I kind of stopped caring about Bree's romances, so we'll see if there's anything to give a crap over about this one.

As far as evil stepdaddy Alejandro, two things: One, he's quite possibly the worst stalker ever. Way to be discreet with your skulking, dumbass. And two, is there a reason he came off as a total cartoon character? That said, my first thought about them hiding his body was that the episode was going to end with a camera shot of where they stashed him (I wasn't thinking it was in the chest in the living room) and we the audience were shown that he was still alive. Or am I thinking of Melrose Place?

Isn't putting the dead body in the trunk a little too similar to what Paul and Mary Alice did to Zach's mom?

That's what I was thinking of, too!

Prediction: He's not really dead, he's just unconscious. He'll regain consciousness after they bury him and he will dig his way out and then "haunt" them from "beyond the grave" (just like Richard Hart on Melrose Place).

Okay, you've seriously got to get out of my head. :)

Edited by Chicken Wing, May 15, 2011 @ 10:29 PM.

[KLS]

I wasn't surprised at all Lynette said she felt relief. When she started I felt...... I figured the next would would be free or relief.

[keagan1]

@Keagan Katherine killed Wayne, the ladies covered it up...sort of. Never to this extent, though. They just lied about what actually happened

Thank you, brkemc. That was not something that I remembered.

the writers chose not to include Renee.

I love Vanessa Williams, but I have no idea what she is doing on this show. Her character's contribution to tonight's finale was unnecessary and pointless. It only took time away from other things. If she is suppose to be the New Edie then they are not doing a very good job at writing her that way.


(P.S. Loved seeing Felicia drive into a truck.)

[Iron1972]

And now that he's gone, I can stop feeling bad about the fact that this show actually made me feel bad for Paul Young.

I have always felt like Paul gotta bad wrap. Mary Alice killed Dierda (sp?) and then he only killed Martha because she drove Mary Alice to suicide. Now I'm not justifying what Paul did or how he handled it, but he waswn't a cold blooded killer. He was trying to protect his family.

[Modi]

By the way, I LOVED THIS SEASON FINALE! Not a lot of over hyped weddings, car exposions, etc. The dark ending reminded me of the first season (which is great).

Good point. Even the deaths were pretty low-key for this show. I also like that Susan came full circle after moving out in last season's finale.

I wonder if the coverup is going to be next season's mystery. Why would they put out the candlesticks anyway?

[Meaghan Edwards]

Hands down, my favorite season finale. Especially the second hour.

I liked Felicia's demise. It seemed a little rushed but it worked well, I thought.

Carlos, you are the man. By far my favorite storyline tonight. My heart strarted to race when he came into the house because I thought he was going to get shot. I liked the scene of Carlos holding Bree's hand.

Finally, the Scavos finally get a meatier storyline. I've been eager to see a since I've grown tired of Tom's manchild-ness.

I am so looking forward to a Gablos mystery next year and one that involves the rest of the neighbours, too.

Edited by Meaghan Edwards, May 15, 2011 @ 10:53 PM.

[brkemc]

I don't see how this could really be next seasons "mystery" considering the audience saw that happened themselves. It would only be a mystery to the characters not involved.

But hell, there wasn't really a mystery THIS season, and I thought this was the best one since Season 4. Definitely in my top 3.

[okiedohkiepokie]

Loved the finale. Reminded me of why I loved the show, and how much life it still has left in it. This would have served as a great series finale, too! Overall, this would rate up there as one of my favorite finales. Probably the best one since the 4th season; and before that, the first (albeit season 2 had a good finale.) Miles better than season 6's finale.

I think that this was one of the better seasons. The horrendous airing didn't help, neither did the mid-season lull of episodes 7x11-15. EW.com called this season "hideous," and I thought it was unfair.

Susan was awesome throughout the episode, especially with the toy car. Felicia finally got hers (haha, thanks Beth) and Paul re-went to prison? That's sad - but please, leave him there.

Eva Longoria did a great job this entire season. Her entire arc has essentially been about childhood innocence and how so many things can take away from that. Grace, Juanita finding out, visiting Texas, and now this... some decent plotting by TPTB.

Really enjoyed it, looking forward to next season. While this was similar to the Season 4 finale, it was a lot more in depth. They stuck together and told a series of lies, while the girls here all banded together.

The whole finale (and actually, the last few episodes) have definitely upped the darkness factor, and it's much appreciated. And I like Chuck so much more than Brian Austin Green. His character was a waste of 15 episodes.

I don't know if it was Introversion or someone else in another episode thread, but I too, enjoy the continuity of this season. There was a lot of things coming to roost that I thought wouldn't be revisited.

One last thought, it was awesome to not only see Bree lead the group towards helping Gablos, but also the way she easily lied to Chuck. That's when my brother said, "Leave it to Bree for all that shady sh*t."

Leave it to Bree, indeed.

Edited by okiedohkiepokie, May 16, 2011 @ 7:09 AM.

[brkemc]

I don't know if it was Introversion or someone else in another episode thread, but I too, enjoy the continuity of this season. There was a lot of things coming to roost that I thought wouldn't be revisited.

THIS. I actually felt this season that the writers have been listening to the fans. Sure, they didn't handle the series-long Paul/Felicia saga in the way I had planned out in my head all these years, but at least they revisited it and brought it back for resolution, and I for one enjoyed how it ended.

Paul Young is 100% redeemed in my eyes. While I always stood behind his opinion that Martha Huber deserved what she had coming, I like that he FINALLY took real responsibility for it. I also loved how "Beth" got the last laugh and killed her mother.

If there is one thing I would have changed about this finale, it's the murder. I was really, really hoping that Alejandro would have died at Gaby's hand. I wanted her to pull the gun out of his jacket and shoot him dead. Then again, I guess that would have been a little TOO close to the season 4 finale.

Even still, I love that there is now a very big secret kept among all of the main ladies. Covering for Katherine was ONE thing, but this...this really puts their loyalty in perspective.

Also loved that Carlos has forgiven Bree. I'm going to go ahead and assume that he is forgiving her because now he see's (sort of) why Bree had to cover up what Andrew had done, and not because she knows he killed someone.

Edited by brkemc, May 15, 2011 @ 11:30 PM.

[bannana]

Great finale, but it didn't make a whole lot of sense that they would cover up the killing of the stepfather. I thought they were going to go down the road of: he's already considered to be dead, so why report it? That would have made some sense.

It also didn't make sense that Gabi would not have confided in her friends about the stalking or even moreso, reported it.

I like that they have a secret together but it isn't really out there, it just made it okay for Bree and Carlos again. Then why not have Bree walk in on stepfather and kill him?

[Lets Go Blues]

Ok first of all, yes, good season finale. But the fact that they are going to try to cover up the man's death is beyond stupid. It is the most clear cut case of self defense I've ever seen. The man was stalking her (they have it on tape from the grocery store), her daughter saw him frequently creeping in the yard, he broke into their house and tried to rape her. What difference does it make if he didn't have a gun???

Also tired of Bree's dating shenanigans.

Lynette is a bitch and Tom should have left her ass a long time ago. And who has been watching their baby?

I love how Susan was supposed to be SO POOR, when she was really more like lower middle class. Did they sell MJ for food? Did they eat him?

Carlos was an idiot about the whole Bree thing so I am so glad that it's over. Now I can pretend it never happened.

Edited by Lets Go Blues, May 16, 2011 @ 12:07 AM.

[okiedohkiepokie]

Blues, self-defense isn't that cut and dry. I don't know where "Eagle State" is, but most state statutes (and indeed, common law) require there to be a bit more than the circumstances present.

And Bannana, aren't they essentially not reporting it? They just hid the body from everyone else. I assume they will just dump his dead ass in a lake and let that be that. What would be stupid is if next season, people start poking their head around the Lane looking for him.

[Pixles]

Really good finale, especially the second hour. Best finale in ages!

I side with Tom here (which is a first ever). I do think he's at a loss as to what Lynette wants. It's like nothing makes her happy and the only thing she'd be happy with is if Tom went back to being an unsuccessful midlife crisis failure and she could lord over him again in charge. Like with the ring, she belittles and makes jokes on the engagement ring for years. So now that Tom's able to give her one to be proud of and she doesn't have to belittle, that doesn't make her happy either.

I saw Carlos killing stepdaddy after he told Gabby he'd shoot him like a dog, I was expecting him to shoot him though. Nice twist with the girls not covering for Gabby, but for really Carlos.

[MKL122788]

Well, I would say he is basically invisible, but there are a few things to me that will come into play.

1. The guy who works the camera at the store may specifically remember his face due to the image being stopped for him.

2. On the way to their little encounter, Bree and Detective Y/N Gay said hi to him when he was on the sidewalk.

3. Where the hell were Gaby's kids anyway? If they were at home, youd assume they wouldve heard something. Then again, we all know children disappear until convenient these days.

I actually thought the episodes tonight were really quite good. Felicity did a beautiful job, as did Eva. Even Teri Hatcher did a good job making Susan not look like the cheesy suck she normally can be.

I am glad that Felicia is gone and that whole storyline came to a pleasant resolution.

I was surprised that the stepfather came after Gabby, I had this idea that shed be away at the dinner party when he arrived to the house where he would attempt to do something to one of the children, after which Carlos would come in and destroy him thoroughly. The power he had over her when she was vulnerable and unprepared was really amazing though, as said power is in real life.

Outside the lack of consistency relative to the childrens ages, locations, existences in general, it was a pretty good night on Wisteria Lane.

[Thailog]

Okay, it felt weird making it two hours, when it was basically two separate episodes. They could have just as easily aired them separately. It also felt weird wrapping up the Paul/Felicia storyline in the first half, since that was the big storyline of the season, and then introducing a new storyline in the second half.

I enjoyed the first half more; I'm really glad they decided to bring back Paul and Felicia this season instead of leaving them in limbo, and I'm glad the storyline ended with Paul redeeming himself since I always thought he was a sympathetic character (well, after they revealed he hadn't really killed Zana's mother like we were led to believe).

Whenever I saw Alejandro, all I could think of was Ugly Betty's father Ignacio. It was interesting seeing him play such a different role.

[DeaH]

Too much stupid for one episode - even for a two-hour episode. Why didn't Susan tell the policeman that she knew about the poison because Paul told her about the casserole being analyzed? Why did't Bree say a friend told her about the shop and mentioned the owner's name? Why did the cops just call the looney lady who had been a flight risk in the past? Why didn't the Scavos try counseling? Why did everyone seem to think Carlos would go to jail for hitting someone over the head if that someone was in the middle of attacking Gabby?

One of these thing might have been okay, but the writers were relying way too much on people acting like idiots in this episode, and I find that very frustrating.

[EmeraldRose]

Vanessa Williams is an outstanding addition to the cast.

Tonight's episodes are the over the top idiocy that made me fall in love with DH way back on episode 1, Season 1.

[Wibber13]

Loved the outcome, also wondering why they didn't just report it as self-defense.

No kids at all in this episode except maybe one clip of Penny. Oh and how could I forget-- the stupid shot of Juanita with chocolate all over her face like she rubs it on herself. Major problem with that portrayal!! Where do they stash them? What happened to the baby? And are we done with Grace then? I hate the way plots just get dropped and ignored on this show.

I kept yelling at the TV whenever Lynnette and Tom were on -- why not just get a divorce? And when she was saying how she felt when Tom left? Totally knew the answer would be relief.

It was an entertaining episode. I actually like Chuck, even though I usually hate guys named Chuck.

Edited by Wibber13, May 16, 2011 @ 5:20 PM.

[ridethemaverick]

De-lurking to agree that this was one of the better finales in...as long as I can remember.

I thought Vanessa Williams was hilarious, from her drunken singing to her ill-fated relationship with the waiter. I laughed out loud several times. Renee has been pretty useless this season, but I loved her in the finale. Also funny was Bree/Chuck and their disheveled greeting of their guests. Maybe I was just in a silly mood, but I thought the show was the perfect mix of light and dark. Haven't seen that in awhile.

I also loved that Susan came full circle, and that the Paul Young saga is finally over.

I also liked the dinner party idea and how everyone was used and I didn't feel anyone was shoved in just because.

My absolute favorites were Lynette and Tom. I thought FH and DS knocked it out of the park. This separation has been a long time coming, and the writers got it 100% right IMO.

[Pleasesendpants]

Thank you writers for making the Scavos actually speak like adults to each other. It was difficult to watch, but a "good" difficult. Not the usual "ugh" difficult with these two. Tom's ring speech and Lynette's relief speech were two of the most poignant moments in their relationship.

[Character Zero]

The second half felt like a series premier with the death setup and all. Too bad it made me remember the awesome first season and how this season didn't really have a mystery. Although I doubt they had the time to clean up that mess before everyone else got there. And why did the ladies rush over to Gabby's without their dates?

I would be happy if this was the Series Finale. Where else can they go with these characters?