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[LexQuodOrdo]

Exiled: A Law & Order Movie

NYPD Detective Mike Logan, last seen being demoted to a beat on Staten Island after punching a corrupt politician (Law & Order episode "Pride") seeks to solve the grisly murder of a prostitute, and thereby help regain his old job in Manhattan.

I searched through the forums and didn't see any threads for this. I personally vaguely remember this movie, all I remember is Ice-T played a pimp, Logan solved a murder, Profaci was bad news and Cragen was there.

Edited by LexQuodOrdo, May 8, 2011 @ 10:22 AM.

[cmm226]

I remember Logan trying to "get with" the dead woman's twin sister, and I believe it didn't work out. (I remember hating the relationship and thinking it was very unprofessional, maybe that was jealousy.) Also, the dead woman was pregnant by the killer and had an STD. The killer's wife found out he cheated on her because she got the STD as well, she threw him out and threw a shoe (?) at him too.

The killer's dad was some kind of crime boss but he let Logan, et al., arrest his kid without a fight.

I also remember Logan dying to get out of Staten Island, but I think he was resigned by the end of the movie.

His partner was a blond female who was kind of stuck with him (I think).


That's pretty much all I remember. It's been a LONG time since I saw it. Probably since 2000 or something like that. The best thing I remember was being excited to see Logan again.



ETA: I remember Profacci. He and his wife were trying desperately to have a child but the fertility treatments were very expense. The bad guy "bought" him and he was forced to help the bad guy get rid of the body after escalating degrees of favors.

Edited by cmm226, May 8, 2011 @ 1:11 PM.

[LexQuodOrdo]

I remember Profacci. He and his wife were trying desperately to have a child but the fertility treatments were very expense. The bad guy "bought" him and he was forced to help the bad guy get rid of the body after escalating degrees of favors.

That's what happened! I knew Profaci was part of it, but totally forgot why, except that it had something to do with money. I still feel kind of pissed that Ironbone did that to him.

[Scorpiosrule]

the dead woman was pregnant by the killer and had an STD. The killer's wife found out he cheated on her because she got the STD as well, she threw him out and threw a shoe (?)

Wow, they must have recycled this part of the plot for "Downlow" episode on SVU. The same actress played the wife of the killer, who he'd given HIV to. Dennis Haysbert was the lawyer who'd killed the victim, who Olivia had a casual fling with.

All I remember is Logan with shor short haircut that I hated; that he was resentful; and that I HATED they made Profaci a bad guy.

[LexQuodOrdo]

His partner was a blond female who was kind of stuck with him (I think).

I looked her up, her name was Det. Frankie Silvera and she was portrayed by Dana Eskelson. If Mariska Hargitay were to leave SVU I wouldn't mind if they had Dana as her replacement or as a new ADA. She's quite pretty and looks kind of hot in that PlainJane-way, especially in some glasses.

[alynch]

I didn't see it when it aired, but I was able to find a decent copy of it online a while back, and I liked it quite a bit. They really took advantage of the feature length, especially since it was almost entirely focused on the investigation end of things, with the prosecution side relegated to nothing more than a brief McCoy cameo. That left room for a lot of atmospheric stuff that the regular show usually had no time for. Case in point, the interrogation scene near the end. It's such a masterfully played sequence, nothing but dialogue in real time running for a full seven minutes.

I also recall being pleasantly surprised that Cragen actually had a substantial supporting role, much more prominent than the current Mothership castmembers at the time. When he barges in on the interrogation to prevent Logan from protecting Profaci, it's just heartbreaking. It's some of the best material that character was ever given.

All in all, I'd say this movie is woefully underappreciated.

[vb68]

I also vaguely remember this movie. I would love to see it again.

[Maherjunkie]

Who is Ironbone?

[luvdave]

I caught this tonight for the first time on TNT. Finally saw what the deal was with Profaci.

Having just watched all the 9/11 remembrances, it stood out how much those iconic towers were featured, including the framed close-up in Cragen's office. I remember Cutter recalling to McCoy that they were in Adam Schiff's office when they watched them fall, and that had me imagining how Logan and the other L&O cops and DAs might have reacted.

On a superficial note, loved Ice-T's leopard coat. Seeing him and Cragen in the cast made me hope he was playing Tutuola working SVU undercover as a pimp, but alas, he really was one.

Edited by luvdave, Sep 15, 2011 @ 2:28 AM.

[Scorpiosrule]

I caught this tonight for the first time on TNT.

Say what? This was on? Look I record the mothership episodes and I did NOT see any promos for this movie! Damn.

[alynch]

Huh, apparently they aired it last night at 10 ET. USA used to air this film on occasion. I guess they let the rights lapse and TNT scooped it up. They don't appear to have it scheduled again anytime soon, but if they aired it once, I'm sure they'll air it again at some stage. Any word if this will be on the complete series box set?

[CatsWithAxes]

Yes it was on last night - I caught the last part of it and was aghast all over again at how they wrecked Profaci's character. Shame on you, Dick Wolf.

[vb68]

Say what? This was on? Look I record the mothership episodes and I did NOT see any promos for this movie! Damn.

I missed it too. Bummer! I need to pay better attention.

[CatsWithAxes]

Wow, they must have recycled this part of the plot for "Downlow" episode on SVU. The same actress played the wife of the killer, who he'd given HIV to. Dennis Haysbert was the lawyer who'd killed the victim, who Olivia had a casual fling with.

Didn't Michael Beach play the lawyer/killer character in that ep? I don't remember Dennis Haysbert being in it. I don't think the actress in that episode is the one from Exiled either, although the two actresses resemble each other.

Also, oddly enough, the actual episode title is "Lowdown", not "Downlow" - even though being "on the downlow" is what the episode is all about. Tutuola even gives a little informative speech about what it means in the squadroom, so it's not like they don't ever use the expression in the story. I've never understood why the title is "Lowdown" - someone obviously wasn't paying attention. :)

Edited by CatsWithAxes, Nov 3, 2011 @ 7:44 PM.

[cmm226]

Maybe they didn't want to give the story away before the episode aired.

[CatsWithAxes]

Maybe they didn't want to give the story away before the episode aired.

But the episode titles aren't shown onscreen, so I don't see why that would be a concern. And a lot of the episode titles have to do with elements of the story.

I checked out IMDb, and the actress in Exiled is Nicole Ari Parker, while the actress in "Lowdown" is Bethany Butler. And I remembered right - it was Michael Beach and not Dennis Haysbert in the SVU episode.

Edited by CatsWithAxes, Nov 5, 2011 @ 10:06 PM.

[Princess Aldrea]

This movie made me sad. The end of 'Pride' didn't really let me think too much about what Mike's fate was but now I got to see plenty of it. I suppose that logically this is better than him getting shot or something but it really doesn't feel like it. I'd understand him being brought up on assault charges and getting suspended but that? Poor Mike.

Curtis had virtually no screentime and he still managed to annoy me. It's a good thing that Benjamin Bratt was hot because that character...

I want to know where, exactly, Van Buren got the idea that Mike was self-centered. I mean, he had a lot of problems (notably his hair-trigger temper that was actually getting better compared to season one) but I wouldn't say being self-centered was one of them and, even if he's wrong, in what universe does genuinely believing there's a dirty cop based on evidence and trying to find said dirty cop make one self-centered? I don't think I'm going to forgive her for that.

I didn't really care for the Mike/sister romance but it was still sad at the end with him standing outside of her apartment and being shut out.

The scene with Jack was amusing. Those two never did like each other although they were only really antagonistic two or three times in season five. I guess no longer working together made Jack feel free to say what he wanted. And, well, Claire being dead still put him in a bad mood, I guess.

And the scene on that building or wherever with Lennie broke my heart. I can see why Lennie just sort of turned his back on him but those two were great together and partners for years and then Lennie gives Mike a speech about not looking into a potentially dirty cop...for loyalty? Seriously? And the best he would do is promise that he'd go along with Mike if he went by the book? Did he really need to qualify that? We did see that Lennie felt guilty and upset about what happened a few times in season six but he certainly didn't let Mike see any of it. I hope that after the movie ended they started staying in touch better.

Edited by Princess Aldrea, Oct 3, 2012 @ 12:55 PM.

[Maherjunkie]

I am so with you Princess. NEVER got the self centered part either or when she says in one episode that he had a problem with her rank in a skirt. What?!

[Princess Aldrea]

or when she says in one episode that he had a problem with her rank in a skirt. What?!

I think it's just that (judging by what we saw with Ceretta and Briscoe at first) Mike wasn't very pleasant or cooperative at first because he hates change and she's not Cragen and she decided it was more likely because she was a woman than because she was black, possibly because he got on decently with Paul.

[Maherjunkie]

Yeah but I never saw him be ugly to her, ever.

[Scorpiosrule]

Yeah but I never saw him be ugly to her, ever.

No. Mike was never ugly toward VanBuren. We were never shown that he had any kind of issue with her--if he did, it was all off-screen and brought to our attention by that line from VanBuren. And I hated it.

Logan was a hothead, no question. He would argue with Greevy, Cerretta, Cragen, Stone, Paul, McCoy...but I never saw any indication that he had a problem with women whose rank was higher than his.

[Maherjunkie]

If you look back he actually seemed quite the feminist..

[yarnover]

I want to know where, exactly, Van Buren got the idea that Mike was self-centered. I mean, he had a lot of problems (notably his hair-trigger temper that was actually getting better compared to season one) but I wouldn't say being self-centered was one of them and, even if he's wrong, in what universe does genuinely believing there's a dirty cop based on evidence and trying to find said dirty cop make one self-centered? I don't think I'm going to forgive her for that.

Maherjunkie said:
Yeah but I never saw him be ugly to her, ever.

No. Mike was never ugly toward VanBuren. We were never shown that he had any kind of issue with her--if he did, it was all off-screen and brought to our attention by that line from VanBuren. And I hated it.

This is even more puzzling in light of the revelation when Logan first joins CI that Van Buren had tried several times to get him transferred back to the 27.

[Maherjunkie]

Writers can't remember their ass from their elbow.

[Scorpiosrule]

This is even more puzzling in light of the revelation when Logan first joins CI that Van Buren had tried several times to get him transferred back to the 27.

Not to me. That line to Mike about having a problem with her was only in that one scene, in that one episode. It was never brought up again, and afterward, they had a very good working relationship.

So, I wasn't surprised by the line of her trying to get him back.

[Maherjunkie]

She was referring to the line in "Black tie".

[Scorpiosrule]

Not to me. That line to Mike about having a problem with her was only in that one scene, in that one episode. It was never brought up again, and afterward, they had a very good working relationship.

So, I wasn't surprised by the line of her trying to get him back.

She was referring to the line in "Black tie".

I understood yarnover was referring to the "Black Tie" episode; what I meant was that the smackdown that VanBuren gave Logan in her first season, happened only that one time, in that one scene--it wasn't an ongoing issue the show kept bringing up, or trying to tell us that Logan had a problem with VanBuren because she was a woman.

Hence, Deakins' line about VanBuren trying to get him back was organic and didn't confuse me.

[Maherjunkie]

Oh, sorry. When she says "The gospel according to Logan" I thought "I try and listen to a little bit of it every day!"