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Posted Apr 13, 2012 @ 7:27 PM

Realistically, all of those three are too high end and they're probably the most famous people on the list, hence the ones leaked. They're more likely to pick a younger up-and-comer who they can get cheap (similar to Cuaron back when he did Harry Potter).
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Posted Apr 13, 2012 @ 8:59 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm kind of surprised that they're even thinking of people like Cronenberg. I would have thought that they would prefer someone who wouldn't rock the boat too much. Sure, Suzanne Collins wants the quality of the movie to be the first priority, and I completely understand and agree with that. But does the studio want a director who can put his/her own personal stamp on it? Or would they prefer someone who can just stick to the script and recapture what so many people loved about the first film?

My first thought was someone like Martin Campbell, who's directed the two best recent James Bond films (GoldenEye and Casino Royale), although he's not an up-and-comer, and I don't know how cheap he would be. He's not a brilliant auteur or anything, but he's generally a solid craftsman, Green Lantern notwithstanding (although I'd be surprised if he suffers any blowback from that). And he has a decent eye for shooting action. I'd like to see that taken into consideration, since I thought that was the weak point of the first movie.

Edited by Redtracer, Apr 13, 2012 @ 9:04 PM.

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Posted Apr 14, 2012 @ 3:59 AM

Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, director of depressing miserabilist dramas like 21 Grams and Babel.


Maybe they should save that guy for Mockingjay.


He'd probably refuse to go below an "R" rating. I don't think he's ever made a PG-13 film.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 2:03 PM

The race thing bothers me. Rue was obviously African-American in the book. I was under the impression that all of District 11 was Black, but the movie showed some Caucasian people in the Rebellion scene.

Where are the Asians, Latinos, and Native Americans? Are they heavily divided into different districts? We saw an Southeast Asian boy killing someone in one of the past games.

I'm almost positive that Panem is based on the United States. Or maybe it was that fan map that someone made online that convinced me of it. Are they using American history as Panem's history? Did Panem have immigrants in its past?
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 6:17 PM

He'd probably refuse to go below an "R" rating. I don't think he's ever made a PG-13 film.


I honestly feel like going below an R rating would mean comprising the entire premise of Mockingjay. Nothing in that book was PG-13 IMO.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 9:02 PM

I don't think District 11 is all black. It's just that it's the largest district with tens of thousands of people. So it makes sense for it to be more diverse than the relatively small District 12.
I just reread Catching Fire, and female tribute is described as having olive-colored skin and dark hair (for some reason I kept picturing a slightly younger Mercedes Ruehl). Katniss even says she'd fit in with the Seam folks from 12.

And yes Panem is based in the US, District 12 is Appalachia. Here's really detailed fan-made map (scroll down) that breaks down where the districts are and how the geography lends itself to their industry.

I honestly feel like going below an R rating would mean comprising the entire premise of Mockingjay. Nothing in that book was PG-13 IMO.

I agree. However, the books are technically teen fiction. So an R rating means blocking the target audience.

Edited by bluroses, Apr 18, 2012 @ 9:08 PM.

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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 1:27 PM

Francis Lawrence has been tapped to direct Catching Fire. Probably not the best sign if what most impressed me from his repertoire was Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" video.
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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 4:54 PM

I think he's a pretty decent choice, all things considered. There's no way that people like David Cronenberg or Alfonso Curaron were actually in serious consideration, so it was always going to be a gun-for-hire. True, his filmography is somewhat brief, and I haven't loved or even liked everything he's done. But he's worked with major special effects before (I Am Legend and Constantine), and he has some experience with more human-level drama (Water for Elephants). Combine a decent script with his strong visual eye, and I think Catching Fire could at least match The Hunger Games in quality, if not exceed it.

From what I understand, Bennett Miller (Capote and Moneyball) was the other contender, and as much as I like those two films, I don't know if he was the right guy for the job. He's certainly more talented overall than Francis Lawrence, but that seems like something of a director/material mismatch.

Edited by Redtracer, Apr 20, 2012 @ 4:55 PM.

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Posted Apr 21, 2012 @ 12:13 PM

David Fincher started out as a video director & I'm sure there are others who have done that who are now directing quality films. I'm not writing someone off just because they started w/videos.
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Posted Apr 23, 2012 @ 6:00 PM

I have the impression that those directors with previous experience in music videos tend to have a good sense of timing.

On a completely unrelated note, watching Jennifer Lawrence shooting arrows from a bow in a game during a Spanish show has reminded me why she looks so awesome as Katniss.
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Posted May 5, 2012 @ 11:33 PM

Catching Fire Gets A Re-Write

Toy Story 3 was awesome, so I can get onboard with this.

As for Mockinjay, it really is hard to believe that they can possibly get a PG-13 rating out of it, but eh. It is interesting to figure out how they'll wind up splitting, because it's not enough for two movies.

I would probably end Part 1 with Peeta's "you're a piece of work" scene.
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Posted May 6, 2012 @ 11:33 AM

I wonder what needed to be re-written?
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Posted May 6, 2012 @ 4:38 PM

The question to me is, are they putting more stuff in, or taking it out??

So what is the thing that you really want to see in the next movie? I am really hoping for

1. The victory tour. I really want some more glipses of the rest of the disticts, what they are like, maybe even see some of the other tributes families. Even if its just in montage form, it would be interesting to see the bigger scope of the world, and the effect the games have on people beyond the main characters.

2. Peeta drawing pictures of the games. I love that and want it done well dang it! And his line about how he remembers it all so well because he see`s it every night? Maybe one of my favorite character beats for him.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 7:29 AM

As for Mockinjay, it really is hard to believe that they can possibly get a PG-13 rating out of it, but eh. It is interesting to figure out how they'll wind up splitting, because it's not enough for two movies.

I would probably end Part 1 with Peeta's "you're a piece of work" scene.

They'll probably break it right after Peeta's rescue and pick up in the next one when Katniss is in District 2 (although I'd cut the Nut scenes entirely because it doesn't really add anything to the story). I think Mockingjay is the most cinematic of the three books, there's less exposition and more action, not necessarily war action, but people are always doing things. I'm still not convinced it needs two movies. I mean I don't think the world will end if they cut the Crazy Cat sequence (lies, I love that random sequence) and it feels like they spend half of the book watching/filming Katniss' propos or sending Katniss in and out of the hospital, so if they cut that back they could probably pull off a 2.5 - 3 hour movie. If Catching Fire makes a ton of money too though, I understand while they'll extend the franchise. I just think that Mockingjay Part 1 will be terribly boring and then Part 2 will be a blood bath.
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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 3:55 AM

Someone at the start of the thread posted a quote from Jennifer Lawrence about her acting intrepretation of Katniss:

“The first time that Katniss has to go into the cylinder and she goes up into the arena and looks around and sees it for the first time,” says Lawrence. “Knowing that when that trumpet blows she could die. The thing that’s great about her is she’s not a murderer. She’s a hunter, but she’s not a killer. I told Gary, ‘I totally understand if you don’t hire me, but please remember that after Katniss shoots a bow and kills someone her face cannot be badass. It has to be broken.’ She has to be heartbroken because she just took another person’s life. It’s so tempting, especially with a cool, big budget franchise movie, but we have to remember that she’s a 16-year-old girl who’s being forced to do this. These kids are only killing each other because if they don’t, they’ll die. It’s needless, pointless, unjustified violence. So there’s nothing cool about her. It’s not like she looks around the arena and goes ‘Yeah, I got this, I’m going to do this.’ I think she looks around terrified and thinks, ‘Well there are all the million different ways that I can die.’”

Her No. 1 scene from the entire trilogy, however, comes from the second book: “It’s from Catching Fire,” she says. “When she finds out that she has to go back and she runs in and has a complete meltdown — I remember reading that and being like ‘I want to act that!’”


Jennifer NAILED the cylinder scene. I mean, there were so many good acting moments in general, but that one was particularly good- she didn't play it cocky or badass, just a terrified girl. I loved how Cinna zipping up Katniss's jacket in a protective way was later echoed with Katniss doing that for Rue, even though Rue was already gone.

I cannot wait for the scene where Katniss has her breakdown. I wouldn't be surprised if they take out Katniss getting drunk with Haymitch, but I hope they at least show her doing a shot or something.

Since they changed the ending so that Peeta doesn't know that Katniss was put up to it by Haymitch to fake the romance, I wonder if that's being taken over into Catching Fire, or if Peeta is simply never going to know. That was such a powerful scene- I hope it makes over into Catching Fire somehow- like he finds out on the Victory Tour or something. I do really want the whole "you are never, ever going to be allowed to do anything but live happily ever after with that boy" scene with Haymitch and Katniss. I think Woody could do well with that scene, as well as the "Did you figure out the math?" scene as well.

I think the Second Quarter Quell scene is likely a goner, however, because it was about establishing the fact that not only was Haymitch messed up, but he had somewhat of a romance with Madge's aunt. With no Madge, the Second Quarter Quell doesn't have much of a point. Which is kind of a shame, because it is an awesome scene. I found this fanvideo about the Second Quarter Quell that was pretty awesome.
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Posted May 28, 2012 @ 2:01 AM

Robert Pattinson will not be part of Catching Fire.

I really think Finnick will wind up being an unknown.
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Posted May 29, 2012 @ 9:17 PM

I really think Finnick will wind up being an unknown.


Yep, I'm leaning more and more in this direction. Supposedly, if they are planning on going with a "name," the latest rumor has the final contenders as Armie Hammer, Taylor Kitsch, and Garrett Hedlund.

I'm good with either Hammer or Kitsch, but I must have missed whatever movie convinced studios that Garrett Hedlund was a star in the making. I've never seen him in anything in which he was remotely interesting, but his name gets batted around for all sorts of high-profile roles. I'm genuinely puzzled.

But an unknown wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Posted May 30, 2012 @ 9:03 AM

I'm good with either Hammer or Kitsch, but I must have missed whatever movie convinced studios that Garrett Hedlund was a star in the making.

Well Kitsch has been setting bombs off all over the box office, maybe being installed in an established franchise can finally get his career off the ground. I've only seen Garrett Hedlund in "Country Strong" where he had that "wounded by love" thing down, but I can't see him carrying off the charm of Finnick. The "short list" sounds a bit too close to the dream casting I've seen in graphics and fan videos over the past few months, sort of like Hunter Parrish-gate all over again, so I wouldn't be surprised if none of these guys were cast.

I'm curious when the rumor mill will start churning for the other all star tribute's casting.
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Posted May 30, 2012 @ 4:18 PM

I adore Taylor Kitsch but I don't know if he has the chops to pull off Finnick's charm without resorting to his Tim Riggins slow and sexy drawl (not that it's a bad thing!), which I never pictured Finnick having. I just feel like Finnick has a lot going on beneath his charming surface and I don't know if TK can play that convincingly, IMO.
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Posted May 30, 2012 @ 7:34 PM

I'm pulling for Armie Hammer, but it doesn't look likely because he's shooting a movie at the same time Catching Fire is supposed to film. Then again, Finnick IS a smaller part, so it's possible.

Taylor Kitsch...I can't see that.

Here's an E! speculation casting article:

Casting Catching Fire

I REALLY liked the Anna Kendrick suggestion for Johanna. I could easily see her fooling everyone into thinking she's a sweet, innocent thing and then viciously stabbing them in the back.

I wonder if they're filming the sequel in North Carolina again, since it's supposed to be filmed in the fall and the Quarter Quell arena is in a tropical area.

Edited by MethodActor05, May 30, 2012 @ 7:46 PM.

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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 11:07 AM

I REALLY liked the Anna Kendrick suggestion for Johanna. I could easily see her fooling everyone into thinking she's a sweet, innocent thing and then viciously stabbing them in the back.

Oooooh I'm so mad at you for saying that. I love Anna; while I never would have pictured her as Johanna, acting and personality-wise, I think she'd own that role.
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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 4:17 PM

If you've seen Anna Kendrick in Camp and Rocket Science, you can totally see her pulling off the deceptiveness and viciousness of Johanna's character. And she's such a little thing that it's easy to see how tributes would underestimate her.

Catching Fire To Shoot In Atlanta

Man, Georgia's film industry really does seem to be taking off- it used to be that North Carolina was the Southern State where they did all the filming.

Georgia does have some isolated islands so it could work.

Also Taylor Kitsch is officially out. Can't say I'm too upset at that.
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Posted Jun 4, 2012 @ 8:05 AM

I cannot wait for Catching Fire. It is my favorite book of the series. I love the casting for this series and The Hunger Games so far is far superior to Twilight on every level. I hope we get a bit more character insight and focas on the relationships, I liked Katniess's relationships with Prim and Heymitch, they where so important to the series and her character and I want more Katniss/Peeta, I love JH as Peeta and ship them like crazy.

I would love Jensen Ackles for Finnick and Mila Kunis for Johanna.
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Posted Jun 4, 2012 @ 8:22 AM

So they begin filming in July and still haven't finished casting? I'd assume roles like Finnick and Johanna would require several weeks of training.
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Posted Jun 5, 2012 @ 8:11 AM

I'm good with either Hammer or Kitsch, but I must have missed whatever movie convinced studios that Garrett Hedlund was a star in the making.

Agreed. Plus I don't think he's good-looking enough to play Finnick. (I don't think he's particularly good-looking, period.)
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Posted Jun 5, 2012 @ 10:35 PM

More Finnick Casting Speculation

Lucas Till is too damn young, and the baby face isn't going to look right next to Jennifer's. Alan Ritchson is perfect physically...but comedy's more his forte. Trevor Donovan...maybe. I could see it working. I'm not holding being on a crappy teen drama while playing someone half his age against him.
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Posted Jun 6, 2012 @ 7:40 AM

This might sound superficial, but Lucas Till causes a major face/voice disconnect for me. He's got this deep voice that makes him sound like he's about thirty-five, but he still looks like he's sixteen. I'd never seen him before the last X-Men movie, but he's just way too young (and too young-looking) for Finnick.
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Posted Jun 12, 2012 @ 11:49 AM

Philip Seymour Hoffman has been offered the role of Plutarch Heavensbe, although there's no word on whether he'll accept. I kind of expect him not to.

I can see him in the part, though, although he would have made a good Haymitch.
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Posted Jun 12, 2012 @ 5:31 PM

I don't know why Entertainment Weekly is ass-obsessed with Ryan Kwantan for Finnick. And I saw this as a big EW fan, but ... just no. I do not get the appeal of this guy and never will. Their recent issue was about True Blood, so they had some more pictures of him and STILL. DO. NOT. GET. Dude is really unattractive to me. He's got these little beady eyes. When I look at him, I do not think "bronze hottie." I think "squirrel-face."

I'm honestly open to a lot of things, not hell-bent on one actor over another, but I would be actively mad if it was Kwantan. Does anyone know if he is really actually in the running? I've been loving the Jesse Williams suggestion since I heard it - that would be awesome. He is so so so hot and enough of an unknown not to overshadow anything.

I honestly have no clue on Johanna. I imagine some sort of Natalie Portman in V for Vendetta type...except not Natalie Portman. I like Mila Kunis a lot, and I feel horrible, but her voice honestly makes me want to stab myself. I thought I was okay with it and then tried watching Friends With Benefits (I'll leave my opinions on that out), but I will not be able to stand listening to that voice for 2+ hours.
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Posted Jun 13, 2012 @ 2:27 PM

Emma Stone as Johanna was brought up as a possibility and I can see it, due to her part in Zombieland having some very sardonic con aspects, but I'm not sure I can see her being vicious. In any event, Emma, like Ryan Gosling, might just be too big of a name at this point for them to try and get as a supporting actress in a franchise film.

Phillip Seymour Hoffman is a casting I can get behind. What a great character actor. They really are going for the actors with pedigrees. (Which is why I think Kristen Bell doesn't have a shot in hell at Johanna- she damaged her rep way too much with all those shitty rom-coms.)

Edited by MethodActor05, Jun 13, 2012 @ 2:44 PM.

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