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2-7: "Birth Pangs" 2011.02.22 (recap)


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 7:06 PM

TV Guide sez:

Erica goes to Hong Kong to strike a blow against Anna; Tyler may be useless to Anna; Diana bonds with Lisa.



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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:01 PM

Queen Eggs, and hybrids, and splices, oh my!

(God, this show.)

"Cadbury Queen Eggs are here, but only until Easter."

Edited by Sandman, Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:38 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:06 PM

Joshua? Hobbes & Ericka sexual tension? Dr. Reaper? Limited Tyler? No soul nonsense? Answers?!?! My gods, this was the best episode yet. I seriously have no complaints. It's like the writers started paying attention to what the fans want. Scary. It can't last, right?

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:06 PM

Sorry for the double post.

Edited by TheGreaterFool, Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:32 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:07 PM

Can Hobbes and Erica make out now? Yeah, I know, he betrayed them, nothing good will come of it...whatever, I don't care. I just want some action, OK?

Ahem.

I want to see Tyler die. I really want to see him dead. I prefer slow, but quick would also be acceptable. What a tool. You don't want to feel, but you can shout at your mother like an asshole. OK.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:07 PM

Jack and Hobbes living together? That could be amusing, but of course we’ll never see any of it. I can picture Jack opening, like, the medicine cabinet or something, closing it, then asking, “Why are their grenades in there?”

Love how Jack reached out to Erica and, even as she was saying she didn’t want to talk, she patted him on the abs.

Of all the guys on the show they could have had in their boxers, it had to be Tyler. *sigh* Way to misread your audience, folks.

I had a feeling Eli’s people weren’t going to just roll over and play nice with Erica

Even as a baby, Tyler was too stupid to die, unlike all the other babies with half their DNA.

Damn. Anna got smart, using Joshua to try to get to Lisa.

Good girl Lisa! Be suspicious, even though you want to believe it’s your Joshua.

Hmmm, wonder if Joshua actually did feel something there….

Well, damn, I guess that evil!doctor lady isn’t going to be much help.

Ryan. Kinda over him.

On a shallow note, I must say I enjoy seeing Jack in the blue sweater/jeans/leather jacket combo.

“Tyler…my son is expendable.” Erica…the rest of us want to use him for canon fodder.

Exploding vitamin. Creepy

LOL, as soon as I saw the little cross Jack had set up in the basement, I knew Hobbes would look at it funny. And he did.

Dun-dun-dun! The pieces are falling into place for the Fifth Column folks. Finally.

Oh, no! Joshua! Don’t tell Anna that! Remember who your queen is!!

Anna/Lisa smack down.

Ow! That face grabbing did not look fun.

Come on Joshua…I see a glimmer of something of the old Joshua trying to fight its way out…Or that could be me grasping at straws, lol.

Tyler just keeps upping his douchiness. For some inexplicable reason, Lisa seems to care for him and he’s an ass to her.

Lisa needed a hug

Edited by KateMantle, Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:09 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:10 PM

"Cadbury Queen Eggs are here, but only until Easter."

Can't you just picture Anna as the bunny?

So not only was Ryan's daughter cured of whatever ailment she had, but she also aged several years since the last episode? (Yup. I fell asleep again.)

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:11 PM

In the Way To Go! department:
Lisa - For not being fooled by Joshua's ruse and standing up to her evil mama.

In the {sigh} Way to Go (snark) department:
Erica and Hobbs - For letting the good doctor break their grip and take a flying, emulsifying leap.
Erica for still basing every decision and action of this group who is trying to save humanity on Tyler. No mention of helping the other boys.
Ryan - For still dealing with the devil, Anna.

Man, poor Lisa. Methinks she's gon' have to leave the ship if she wants to live.

Tyler still needs to meet with some V fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Ryan's baby - awww! Too bad she'll be used for Anna's evil means. Hopefully the show won't go all magical Starchild on us, though.

Still waiting to see these 5th Columnists line up behind Erica's kinder, gentler agenda. Don't see it realistically working out so well without resistance.

Edited by Make It So, Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:21 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:14 PM

OMG, y'all, it's the Starchild!

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:18 PM

Can't you just picture Anna as the bunny?

Sure.

Besides, "it must be bunnies!"

Also, that skinhead haircut makes Tyler look like a potato.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:21 PM

Come on Joshua…I see a glimmer of something of the old Joshua trying to fight its way out…Or that could be me grasping at straws, lol.


Well, did you notice he called Lisa "My Queen"?

OMG, y'all, it's the Starchild!


Not so sure about that. She aged quicky because of the experiments that Anna had Joshua do on her. Some sort of rapid aging experiment that up to this time had not worked well but did work on the baby because she was a hybrid.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:22 PM

Come on Joshua…I see a glimmer of something of the old Joshua trying to fight its way out…Or that could be me grasping at straws, lol.


I could be wrong, but wasn't his 'my Queen' a giveaway? He called Lisa that before he was brainwashed, but it's not her title yet (as Anna pointed out later), especially if Joshua is still wiped.
I like Lisa and hope she gets out of this okay, but even LV isn't selling me on the Tyler focus. He dumbs down anything. (And the haircut didn't help. It just makes him look chubbier.)

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:28 PM

That was excellent. Jack and Hobbes as The Odd Couple, the Erica/Hobbes hotness, the Anna/Lisa smackdown, the Lisa/Diana hug... and, at long last: Joshua! Welcome back, baby!

I'm also very happy that Marcus is still alive. But I really hope Ryan's kid won't be Elizabeth 2.0. I actually groaned when they mentioned accelerated growth.

Tyler, Tyler... what the frak does Lisa see in you?!

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:36 PM

Man, poor Lisa. Methinks she's gon' have to leave the ship if she wants to live.

Girl is gonna be some pissed when she finds out that not only has her erstwhile co-conspirator Dr. Flirt Column morphed into Joshua the Hall Monitor Lizard, her grandmother, Diana the Dowager Duchess Reptilian, is using her, too.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:36 PM

So the V are here for our genetics....
Wasn't that the alien motivation in "Earth: Final Conflict"?


Man, poor Lisa. Methinks she's gon' have to leave the ship if she wants to live.

Or she could get in touch with her inner "evil queen" and destroy Anna's last remaining queen egg leaving her Anna's only option.

Ryan's baby - awww! Too bad she'll be used for Anna's evil means. Hopefully the show won't go all magical Starchild on us, though.

Hopefully Ryan will take her with him when he escapes.

Erica for still basing every decision and action of this group who is trying to save humanity on Tyler. No mention of helping the other boys.

I actually considered for a mad moment that Erica was going to order the 5th Column to assassinate all 28 other candidates. That would be awesome in its cold bloodedness.

Erica and Hobbs - For letting the good doctor break their grip and take a flying, emulsifying leap.

To be fair, the V tend to be stronger. Besides it saved them the effort of searching her for the pill and force feeding it to her.

Tyler, Tyler... what the frak does Lisa see in you?!

Bad teenager alien female hormones! Bad! Bad!

Edited by Booklord, Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:38 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:38 PM

So, they show Tyler being the absolute biggest jerk with a crewcut blabbing about not wanting to feel anymore. Cut to Lisa explaining to Nana Diana about how much she cares for Tyler. Not selling that well at all.

I may have missed something in a prior ep, but who exactly is the girl that Kyle was willing to blow up the 5th Column for? Sister? Cousin? Because if she was a wife/girlfriend, why in the world was he exchanging passing glances with Erica under the V-safe?

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:47 PM

Why didn't the doctor use her Tail on Erica?.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:53 PM

Well, did you notice he called Lisa "My Queen"?

I could be wrong, but wasn't his 'my Queen' a giveaway? He called Lisa that before he was brainwashed, but it's not her title yet (as Anna pointed out later), especially if Joshua is still wiped.


I'm hoping that's the case. He seemed a little "WTF?" at hiself when he called her that, and then it was almost like he was grasping at straws for a reason not to toss the icky queen egg into the giant V incubator, like his subconscious was trying to protect Lisa....

.. and, at long last: Joshua! Welcome back, baby!


Can not be said enough.

Also, I proudly wore my Tyler Sucks shirt tonight, despite teasing from the fiancee. Plan on doing it again next week...seroiusly, maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, we can will the character to die.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:55 PM

I hate that they kept Joshua only to use him as Anna's minion. And was I the only one hoping Anna would "order" Lisa to get with him? Just me? Almighty.

I was rather shocked when Erica and Hobbs exchanging glances. Can the show actually see the potential in a viable triangle with Jack?

I cringed at Tyler's ridiculous "I don't wanna feel no more". We get it, Lisa and Tyler are switching places.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 10:59 PM

I'm not sure that any of us know who Kyle's "girl" is. Altho I may have fallen asleep during a previous episode...

Of all the guys on the show they could have had in their boxers, it had to be Tyler. *sigh* Way to misread your audience, folks.

Agree. Lots of other options.

Another good episode. Love Jack and Kyle as roomies. Love the sexy glance between Erica and Kyle. I'm done with Ryan and his baby.

Girl is gonna be some pissed when she finds out that not only has her erstwhile co-conspirator Dr. Flirt Column morphed into Joshua the Hall Monitor Lizard, her grandmother, Diana the Dowager Duchess Reptilian, is using her, too.

A bit worried for Lisa right now. She needs allies. Grandma clearly has her own plans. Tyler is more interested in being a pilot. I still think that there is hope for the Joshua that we know and love. What would be the point of of Lisa's rebellion if she is alone?

Tyler...please go away.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:24 PM

I would love to see Lisa at the moment her raging hormones retreat when she looks at Tyler and says, "Him? What a dweeb."

But I really hope Ryan's kid won't be Elizabeth 2.0. I actually groaned when they mentioned accelerated growth.

No hope. They've clearly gone there. I was so expecting (and still am) to see 4400's Megalyn Echikunwoke. It would be kind of fun if they did cast her in the role of rapidly aged Ryan's Nameless Daughter ("Elizabeth"?) and Jack does a double take when he sees her.

I actually considered for a mad moment that Erica was going to order the 5th Column to assassinate all 28 other candidates. That would be awesome in its cold bloodedness.

Excellent plan. Too bad this 5th Column thinks 29 Tylers are more worthy of saving than all of humanity.

I don't know why I'm bothering to think about this, but is 29 special because it's a prime number, or is there a number 30 out there who would have popped up in the never-to-be season 4 to marry Lisa and save the few good Vs? -- that is, deprogrammed Joshua.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:36 PM

This is the second time Tyler has blown off Lisa. The first time was to vandalize a church and the second time was to file a flight report. You have got to be kidding me...

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:50 PM

What the fuck happened to Tyler being all moon-eyed over Lisa? It's like he doesn't give a shit and wants to be a V while Lisa is doing all the pining. And for what, a doofus who takes off on her every chance he gets? Damn, and this is the "love story" of the show? Yeah, right. Lisa needs to disembowel him and her mother and make Josh her love slave pronto. Because it is pathetic to see her chase after Tyler when he's a douchebag and not worth the trouble. I want to see Lisa realize that fact soon.

Anywayz, loving the heat between Erica and Hobbes. The chemistry and UST in the hotel room was off the charts.

The best part of the ep? Lisa slapping Anna like she meant it. That is how Erica should have smacked Tyler last week. Good show, girl!

Anyone else think that Josh really does remember everything and is playing Anna? God, I hope so.

This show needs a third season, dammit. ABC, you owe me for cancelling Flashforward.

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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:51 PM

I hate that they kept Joshua only to use him as Anna's minion. And was I the only one hoping Anna would "order" Lisa to get with him? Just me? Almighty.


No, you were not. Although Anna wouldn't be too happy if Lisa ended up pregnant with just regular old V babies. She wants best of the best Hybrid's darnit!

Part of me was hoping we'd see some protective or disapproving reaction out of Joshua at the mention of Lisa being required to breed with all these random men at Anna's increasingly desperate whims. Maybe all of a sudden those 28 other possibilities have insufficient phosphorus levels according to Joshua's tests. Or Joshua's emotions and memories hit him full force at a moment of seeing Lisa in jeopardy by randy Rafael and he breaks up that snog fest right quick by snapping the guy's neck.

I was rather shocked when Erica and Hobbs exchanging glances. Can the show actually see the potential in a viable triangle with Jack?


Oh, heck yeah! Jack and Hobbes will be fighting for Erica's soul. She's strayed off the good path with Jack in the aftermath of Joe's death and fallen right into step with Hobbes. I do find it odd that one week after Joe's death she's making googly eyes at Hobbes, however, there was always a bit of spark between them before she lost Joe. A bit of the forbidden fruit going on between the Lawful Erica and the Outlaw Hobbes, but now that Erica's firmly in the grey, dark soul area it's easier for her to go there.

I was so expecting (and still am) to see 4400's Megalyn Echikunwoke. It would be kind of fun if they did cast her in the role of rapidly aged Ryan's Nameless Daughter ("Elizabeth"?) and Jack does a double take when he sees her.


LOL, while the idea of a repeat of the 4400 special baby story scares me, having Megalyn appear just for Jack to do a double take would be funny. However I'd prefer Patrick Fleuger to guest and somehow get in a 'Screw you, Uncle Tommy, I mean, Father Jack!'

As glad as I was to see Joshua back, I couldn't help but sigh 'I miss Marcus' with this episode. He had a way of looking at Anna with a 'Are you for real? Seriously? Oh for the love of....fine! We'll do things your way, my crazy Queen' expression that just cracked me up.

Still I'm calling Marcus destroying the Queen Egg either for his own purposes or because he (while cooling his heels in medical bay) was brainwashed by Joshua who is actually playing everyone with his amnesia act.

ETA:

The best part of the ep? Lisa slapping Anna like she meant it. That is how Erica should have smacked Tyler last week. Good show, girl!


What was awesome about that scene was how right before Anna verbally challenges Lisa she physically challenges her all with the shift of pose. She moves one leg and goes from a benign motherly pose to a fighting stance. As soon as she did that you knew Lisa was about to get pimp slapped!

Edited by TobinAlbers, Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:56 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:51 PM

Tyler doesn't want to feel anymore? Anna can have that arranged.

Is the show really going to have him go the way of Daniel from the original mini-series? I hope not.

Edited by Make It So, Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:53 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 11:57 PM

Tyler doesn't want to feel anymore? Anna can have that arranged.

Hmmm. Maybe she did? *snippidy doo dah*

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Posted Feb 23, 2011 @ 12:53 AM

Raphael is so much prettier than Tyler but I will always find it creepy for Anna to watch her daughter have sex. Also I think Tyler probably has the jones for Anna, the way he's all "Anna is so cool, much cooler than my own mom." I hope that Anna's experiments go wrong and his body goes all berserk on him then Erica kills him, thinking he's a V.

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Posted Feb 23, 2011 @ 1:31 AM

Delurking to agree that I think Joshua remembers, or at least is starting to. The whole "My Queen" was a give away. I squeed a little on the inside. Like most, I can not fathom why Lisa has feelings for Tyler. They have shown nothing that I think would appeal to her. Not even the novelty of a "human" relationship because there are much better specimens out there. Or you know, right in her own backyard. *cough*Joshua*cough*

Oh and Erica/Hobbes...hot.

I do wish she would stop making everything about her son. Though I can understand as a mother that her first priority is her childeren, she chose to enter a war against the Vs and assume a leadership position. Unfortunatly this means that she will have to make choices that don't (A) revolve around her son and (B) sometimes mean her son will be put in jeporady. I'm not saying she should sacrifice Tyler (though in this case I wouldn't be sad) but no way can she win a war against a technologically superior race lead by a Queen who is willing to pimp out her own daughter to get what she wants, without making tough choices.

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Posted Feb 23, 2011 @ 1:38 AM

Gosh, Joshua is just so damn hot.

Does GrandmotherV have some plans of her own? What was with those mischievous eyes?

Fantastic episode.

How many more episodes do we have?

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Posted Feb 23, 2011 @ 1:41 AM

No hope. They've clearly gone there. I was so expecting (and still am) to see 4400's Megalyn Echikunwoke. It would be kind of fun if they did cast her in the role of rapidly aged Ryan's Nameless Daughter ("Elizabeth"?) and Jack does a double take when he sees her.



And Jack is like, "stay the *fuck* away from her". If TPTB were having a little more fun with the show, they might. Also funny that MB was the force grown baby on Stargate too. Wow, it's got to be one of the worst sci fi tropes out there: the rapid aging special child. I can live with stuff like body switching, or evil twins from another universe, but the rapid aging plot I never liked.

They're all over the place with the V's purpose. Now it's evolution. I mean, I can get leaving clues to figure it out as we watch the show, but it's been different from week to week.

As soon as she did that you knew Lisa was about to get pimp slapped!

Then Anna kind of clawed at her face. It was weird, but makes sense. I wonder if that was written or if MB played it that way herself.

I liked that Dr. Reaper is finally talking to colleagues. There's just not enough BH on this show! He is criminally underused.

Jack and Hobbes living together?

More gems if these idiots running the show wanted to put up some online content! You know that once Jack said, "only until I find somewhere of my own," that he's going to be there forever now. Why is there a gun in the bathroom?!