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4-17: "Out of the Fire" 2010.12.16  (recap)


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Posted Dec 16, 2010 @ 12:18 PM

From zap2it.com:

Brennan vows to release valuable data; Michael must try to turn the tables.



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Posted Dec 16, 2010 @ 10:03 PM

Ah, Brennan. You always were a guppy among the sharks. You were entertaining, though. I'll miss Jay Karnes.
Is it me or is Larry acting like a spurned lover?

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Posted Dec 16, 2010 @ 10:09 PM

Even though it was obvious that it would happen, I liked that Maddie called Marv's family.

I'll miss Brennen, but Larry has to be killed. He can't keep getting away from Michael and company like that. And you got to put a smile on Sam's face. The character is entertaining, but Larry's arc has to end with his death.

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Posted Dec 16, 2010 @ 11:22 PM

Yeah, well Larry always acts like a spurned lover. I thought for sure Sam was going to shoot Larry and they were going to both die. Pulling out all the stops and all, but I guess we'll get that in a couple seasons when he gets out of jail.

Too bad Brennan's dead, because for awhile there I was really vying for a Larry/Brennan/Michael spin off. I could watch those guys banter all day. Karnes and Matheson did a great job. I didn't really like Brennan the first two times around, but I was really diggin' him this time. Larry was creepier than ever. Soooooo good.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 12:16 AM

What a great two hours of tv, wow!

For this episode, the scene in the apartment was well-written and acted--you won't kill me, Sam will kill you, and unlike me, there's nothing you would die for--loved that!

Michael was off balance the whole episode, he has trouble with Brennan and Larry separately, he couldn't deal with them together at all! I agree that Larry must die. I'm going to miss Brennan, I kind of liked him.

I liked how Vaughn got the insurance policy, they couldn't stop it--

I always love Maddie/Sam scenes!

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 1:57 AM

I love Not!Dead Larry. I'm seriously convinced he's in love with Mike and wants him all to himself. The way he talks about him and to him is so weird. I do agree that he needs to die next time they meet. He's way too dangerous.

I liked this episode.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 6:11 AM

It was awesome! The scene in the cafe with Michael, Sam, Brennan and then Larry cracked me up. God, I love Brennan " you mean my Michael Westen summer jam mix tape!" Bwah! I ended up yelling at the TV when Larry got him. Waaaah.

Loved Michael and Larry doing the job while still chatting all the while. Michael can do that sort of thing in his sleep, even if not getting his prep time in first was upsetting for him. Plus he and Larry looked so cute in their light blue shirt and bullet proof vest combo. Like an extra classy special forces unit.

And his confidence during the scene in the apartment. Fangirling Michael really is Larry's downfall. He needs to find someone else to obsess over.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 8:48 AM

Plus he and Larry looked so cute in their light blue shirt and bullet proof vest combo. Like an extra classy special forces unit.


I know, right??!!! I love Tim Matheson anyway, but when he shows up as creepy crazy Larry, my love for this show doubles. Wonder why Sam didn't kill him anyway. Larry always = trouble. And why in the hell did Michael open up to Larry about the fact that they had found the location of The List? I thought that was totally unlike Michael.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 11:37 AM

I'm so going to miss Brennen; he gets the best lines. Having him and Larry in the same episode was almost too much awesome to process. And I figured one of them would have to go down this week, and it makes better sense to have Larry kill Brennen than vice versa. Plus, I'm happy to have Larry still around for a while; it's nice to have an antagonist for Michael that is so completely motivated by his weird obsessive love of Michael, or at least the guy he thinks Michael is.

Sam was completely awesome in this episode, too, but the scenes with Michael, Brennen, and Larry together were my absolute favorite part. I really kind of wish it had been a whole arc instead of just this one week. God, that would have been fun.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 1:12 PM

Good thing I did my usual thing of not looking at the credits. Because when Brennan started talking about giving Michael a partner to kill people with, I was going "Larry?" in anticipation, but not getting my hopes up too much. Then Larry showed up and I was yelling "LARRY!" in excitement. (Sorry neighbors. Hee.)

Best. Episode. Ever. Just non-stop action and awesomeness.

For this episode, the scene in the apartment was well-written and acted--you won't kill me, Sam will kill you, and unlike me, there's nothing you would die for--loved that!

Yeah, that was an instant classic.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 9:13 PM

Plus, I'm happy to have Larry still around for a while; it's nice to have an antagonist for Michael that is so completely motivated by his weird obsessive love of Michael, or at least the guy he thinks Michael is.


I find if fascinating to consider how he got such a completely false image of Michael so fixed in his mind. Michael does what he has to do and doesn't feel guilty for hurting bad people, but there's a big gap between that and being the sociopath Larry seems to think he is. Michael is so patriotic too. I think Brennan understood what Michael would and wouldn't do almost from the start (and he uses that to manipulate Michael, i.e. when he kidnapped Nate) whereas Larry, who supposedly knows Michael, still doesn't get it.

I'm in mourning for Brennan today. He always looked as if life amused him so much, made for fun conversations with the serious Michael. Larry just freaks me out. But glad we didn't lose both of them.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 9:50 PM

Then Larry showed up and I was yelling "LARRY!" in excitement. (Sorry neighbors. Hee.)

There was much merriment in our house too. And we can't believe he didn't, somehow, get himself out of that predicament.

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Posted Dec 17, 2010 @ 10:47 PM

And we can't believe he didn't, somehow, get himself out of that predicament.

What exactly they were arresting him for was a little vague. Sure, there's a body in his vestibule, but I'm sure Larry's been in that situation before... I'm sure he'll be back to cause trouble. (And I do have a little quibble that, having been willing to end Larry and his 'ya know let's just kill this random person' ways when Larry was introduced, they aren't damn quick on the draw when Larry wheedles his way back into Michael's life. I want Larry to escape in nefarious manner, like he did the first time. The second time was okay because Larry was much more pissed than he would have been at just being dead. I wanted them to be willing to shoot him and save all the random passersby Larry's going to off when he returns, and if they're interrupted or outwitted and he escapes all the better. But at least don't pretend leaving Larry in the apartment is going to end well.)

Do love love love that Larry Just Can't Quit Michael. And I will miss Brennan, who as Nix noted has never believed a word out of Michael's mouth.

Major kudos for just stealing the damn safe and opening it later. The bit with Burt Reynolds when they carried the safe around the living room and desperately attempted to break into it with the bad guys closing in, rather than pitching it in the charger and tearing out of there, was a painful off-note this season.

Edited by ipj, Dec 17, 2010 @ 10:50 PM.


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Posted Dec 18, 2010 @ 12:12 AM

Was that a shoutout to "The Professional" when Michael told Larry "No kids, no families"? Leon always said "No women, no kids".

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Posted Dec 18, 2010 @ 10:11 AM

Brennan can't be dead. So he isn't. He just isn't. Did anyone check for a pulse? Because if I've learned one thing from TV, aside from chess=evil, it's that just because a guy seems to be a corpse, has lain still without apprarently breathing and has a glassy stare, there is no guarantee that he is, in fact, deceased, dropped off the perch, gone to join the choir invisible, etc. So he isn't dead. He's just resting.

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Posted Dec 18, 2010 @ 8:14 PM

Brennan and Larry in the same episode?! Well, I think I'll go ahead and name it one of my favorites of all time then. Loved it! I was bummed that Brennan had to die, but I did kind of see it coming as soon as it was revealed that he hired Larry. Never go into business with someone who has an itchy trigger finger, can't be controlled, and is just a tad bit crazy. I'll will miss seeing Jay Karnes on this show; hey, maybe CCH Pounder can guest star as a former partner of Brennan's, who comes after Larry for revenge! If anyone could even make him nervous, it would be her.

Once again, I dug Larry and his crazy interactions with Michael. He really does have this bizarre obsession with Michael and a lot of it does seem to be in the head. And once again, he seems to be one of the few guys that can get into Michael's head and play him well. Really, as much as I enjoy him as a villain, he really shouldn't be alive. I know Michael is not keen on unnecessary killing, but Larry really is a major foil and can really do damage.

Poor Michael; having to deal with both Brennan and Larry. And I love how Larry is one of the few that can make the usually cool Sam want to beat him down within a inch of his life.

Edited by thuganomics85, Dec 19, 2010 @ 12:36 AM.


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Posted Dec 19, 2010 @ 12:22 AM

Awesome episode. Made me laugh also! Brennan, oh Brennan. You entertained me so much. So much zingers towards Michael! The second Brennan introduced his partner, and Larry walked in... I was clapping my hands. Woooot!

Tsk, Larry! Why did you kill Brennan? Brennan was a fire cracker and entertaining. And Brennan, you should've poisoned the champagne or something.

Larry... I know you love Michael sooo much, but HE'S JUST NOT INTO YOU!

I can't wait the next time Larry appeared again, Sam would have a great day fighting him. Ha! I love how Sam just taunted Larry. He should just shoot him, or wounded him.

Great first part episode. The dialogue was funny, the action was pretty cool, and the chemistry was amazing.

And I second CCH Pounder (or any of The Shield actors) to guest star in this show!

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Posted Dec 19, 2010 @ 3:32 AM

For the record there was nothing Biometric about that safe. There was no reader anywhere on it. Brennan wasn't needed for his hand or anything else. It had a 4 button GunVault combination lock on it made for opening in the dark. Its shaped like a handprint with the fingers labled 1-4. That way after you can set the combo all you have to do is lay your hand in the outline and press your fingers down in the correct order. They are extremely cheap and can be opened by a professional with a screwdriver in a matter of minutes. They arent made for security, they are made for speed and convienence for opening your safe in the middle of the night to get your gun out and kill the guy breaking in your house.



As for the episode. You can't go wrong with Fiona in a tank top.

Edited by FullSpeed, Dec 19, 2010 @ 3:35 AM.


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Posted Dec 19, 2010 @ 8:25 AM

I guess using a real biometric safe for a prop (or making a reasonable looking fake) would be too expensive for its few brief scenes. They need to save that money for more explosions. Heehee. Not many people would know it's not a biometric safe, anyway, so it doesn't have to be a biometric safe, it just has to make those of us not in the know think it's a biometric safe. Hee.

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Posted Dec 19, 2010 @ 10:50 PM

Nice episode, I like when Larry shows up since it is a nice reminder that while Michael isn't crazy like he is, he probably did a lot of very bad things while he was an independant intelligence operative for the US government.

Plus one thing I found very funny was when the counter-intel guys were interviewing Jesse about Marv's death, they didn't notice, or didn't feel the need to ask about the fact that Jesse was living in the home of burned spy Michael Weson's mother. And Maddie was even there.

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Posted Dec 20, 2010 @ 2:58 AM

Plus one thing I found very funny was when the counter-intel guys were interviewing Jesse about Marv's death, they didn't notice, or didn't feel the need to ask about the fact that Jesse was living in the home of burned spy Michael Weson's mother. And Maddie was even there.


I didn't even think about that, Kel! (If I may call you that.) I guess the counter-intel guys consider what Mike's doing as "public service", even if they can't come out and support him. Even though he's run off or gotten arrested many, many scumbags in the Miami area.

I too was dismayed when Larry stuck it to Brennan, and actually gasped. In a weekly show, you know there isn't going to be permanent damage to the leads, but man, this episode had me concerned anyway! I also liked how Sam really wanted "to smile"! The Captions got a chuckle from me with "The Spy With Nine Lives" subtitle for Larry.

I like how Maddie and Jesse have bonded. He's a third son, for all intents and purposes. Maddie's call for Jesse wasn't an obvious thing for me, but it's totally in character for her.

Is it summer yet?

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Posted Dec 20, 2010 @ 3:31 PM

I didn't even think about that, Kel! (If I may call you that.) I guess the counter-intel guys consider what Mike's doing as "public service", even if they can't come out and support him. Even though he's run off or gotten arrested many, many scumbags in the Miami area.


I figured it was probably because cable shows like this have to keep to their tight budgets, so it was probably a factor of not wanting to build a new set, or go on a new location for the interview. That or worst case scenario it was just some bad writing.

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Posted Dec 20, 2010 @ 3:45 PM

I don't get really why they would care. To them Jesse is a burned spy just like Michael. Also, given how close of tabs they have kept on Michael, I imagine they know that Jesse has been working with him.

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Posted Dec 21, 2010 @ 8:27 AM

I don't get really why they would care. To them Jesse is a burned spy just like Michael. Also, given how close of tabs they have kept on Michael, I imagine they know that Jesse has been working with him.


Well the official government reason for why Michael got burned was that they believe he did all of those terrible things that Simon actually did. I would think at very minimum it would raise some questions from the counter-intel guys as to why Jesse was associating with him. Plus they were trying to get from Jesse, information on what happened to Marv. If they know Jesse is an associate of Michael Weston they I would think they would know not to put any reliability in the information he gives.

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Posted Dec 21, 2010 @ 8:47 AM

I guess using a real biometric safe for a prop (or making a reasonable looking fake) would be too expensive for its few brief scenes. They need to save that money for more explosions. Heehee. Not many people would know it's not a biometric safe, anyway, so it doesn't have to be a biometric safe, it just has to make those of us not in the know think it's a biometric safe. Hee.


Well, not knowing anything about safes—biometric or otherwise—I thought "What I wouldn't give for a bone saw" was classic Larry!
I appreciate the distinction, though. Thanks, Bec and FullSpeed.

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Posted Dec 21, 2010 @ 12:01 PM

Plus they were trying to get from Jesse, information on what happened to Marv. If they know Jesse is an associate of Michael Weston they I would think they would know not to put any reliability in the information he gives.


But again it goes back to the people who are on the list who are extremely well-connected. They don't want people knowing the truth about how Marv was killed because it means there is a list. It would make sense if Jesse knew something about what Marv was working on and thus keeps questions off of the list and it's existence.

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Posted Dec 21, 2010 @ 3:14 PM

I'm really impressed that Jesse was able to climb into the back seat of Fi's Hyundai! I climbed into the back of one of those once (and I'm only 5'3"). It was no easy task. And I couldn't even sit up straight unless I wanted to keep my head plastered to the ceiling of the car. The man must be beyond agile.

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Posted Dec 23, 2010 @ 9:00 PM

Well, not knowing anything about safes—biometric or otherwise—I thought "What I wouldn't give for a bone saw" was classic Larry!


And the look Michael gave him in return was classic Michael! His eyes got a workout this episode with all the eye rolling, hee.

I like how Maddie and Jesse have bonded. He's a third son, for all intents and purposes. Maddie's call for Jesse wasn't an obvious thing for me, but it's totally in character for her.


And he's the stay at home son she can rely on. And since the only girl he's had a thing for was Fi, Maddie doesn't even have to deal with another obnoxious daughter in law. Works well for everyone!

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Posted Feb 27, 2011 @ 1:57 PM

Was I the only one that thought "MACGYVERRRRRR!" at the end where Larry screams "Michael!!!"