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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:23 PM

This is a reality show, and the more controversy they can incite the better. Considering this, we have to realize how the audience is being manipulated.

BOLTON: I give credit to whoever came up with the idea of him crawling out of the doghouse. He made no effort whatsoever to compete and it looked like he agreed to sign onto the show just for the free publicity. Bruno was right for calling him out.

THE PALINS: It's obvious that TPTB are planting some not so subtle barbs at Bristol. Bruno mentioned that she was in "virgin" territory with ballroom dancing. The songs selected reference her mother. They sent B and her partner to Alaska for a 5 minute interview, then had a special segment with Sarah in the front row. I have to add that both Bristol and Sarah are public figures who give lectures and they are probably interested in the extra publicity.

I don't have any animosity against Sarah or conservatives in general, and I wouldn't have boo'ed if I were there. It's all about publicity.

GREY: The emotional buildup with her and Swayze is old already. I expect that when she eventually wins it will be a tearfest.

ATHLETES, SITUATION, CHO, KYLE, FLO, BRANDY, AUDRINA: does anyone care?

CHERYL BURKE: I used to like you, but this season I'm disappointed. Your "tush" bloomers was just one step above Bolton with a dog bone in his mouth.

Jennifer Grey- She was great. One 9 wouldn't have hurt. I didn't like the floor sitting nonsense. It seemed rather tacky and disrespectful. She did look quite ill in her non-interview backstage.


At about midpoint she and Derek fell behind the music just for a moment, but he led her back to the tempo. That routine was unbelievably energetic. I don't think she was being dramatic. He's driving her to a win. Disco is about 125 bpm, they were going at it at about 200+. Try it yourself and see how quickly you get exhausted. That's why the female pro dancers look exceptionally thin. It's a full body workout.

Edited by BillKos, Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:31 PM.


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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:26 PM

http://www.accesshol...d_article_37573


Boo-gate. Hahaha!

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:28 PM

Is Jamie Leigh Curtis the mother-in-law or sister-in-law of Jennifer Grey? She's been there both weeks and the camera pans to her when Jennifer performs. Are they going to ask for her opinion of the dancers?



Jamie Lee Curtis and Jennifer Grey are really good friends.

Edited by rulesoftravel, Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:31 PM.


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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:28 PM

Tonight: ‘Dancing’ To Clarify Boo-Gate On Tuesday’s Show .

Hope it's going to be over tonight.

Edited by protanto, Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:29 PM.


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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:29 PM

Booing is tacky and classless especially at a young woman who is NOT involved in politics.

Speaking of tacky, Carrie Ann was tacky mentioning to The Situation he is pigeon toed after asking him his shoe size. I enjoyed his dance. He's trying hard and is enjoyable to watch.

Brandy was awful and I can see Tony and Gosselin problems in their future.

Jennifer was deserving of some 9's in my opinion. She may have dance experience but she's also 50. That's a tough routine.

Fox and Warner were good.

Chelsie is embarrassing with her routines. Dog house was a joke. Yes Michael is stiff but it's her job to work around that. Also, she needs to show respect for her elders.

Don't like Cho's dancing so she can go next.

Florence was better and is fun to watch. She has a great personality. Was that "Cindy" in the audience?

Enjoy Audrina and Tony. Glad he got a young woman for once.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:32 PM

I guess this must be serious if they're going to deal with this so quickly. They probably knew they were going to be condemned as part of a liberal plot against the Palins, and would lose a lot of viewers. This is one of the reasons why I don't understand why they keep getting involved in politics. The season with Tom DeLay had a ratings drop.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:33 PM

Michael Bolton didn't dance well, everyone could see it. I do not believe he did this for the money, because the guys net worth is an estimated $ 60 Million. I don't think ABC's appearance fee can compete with that. I think as we get older we are trying to do something new and jump over our shadows and maybe that's what prompted him to take part in the show. It is obviously scaring the hell out of him and he probably regrets it by now.
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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:34 PM

Chelsie is embarrassing with her routines.


Bolt deserved to be embarrassed. Why did he join the show if he wasn't going to compete?

Chelsie is the most beautiful woman on this show. Sorry, Cheryl.

I guess this must be serious if they're going to deal with this so quickly. They probably knew they were going to be condemned as part of a liberal plot against the Palins, and would lose a lot of viewers.


Are you kidding? This kerfuffle is driving up ratings. They'll play it for all it's worth because Sara won't be on the show again. On Kimmel The Bergmeister admitted that he was a democrat and a liberal. Oh, the DRAMA!

Edited by BillKos, Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:44 PM.


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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:43 PM

I, too, have grown weary with this show. Also, based on the first episode, I thought that the performances were better than I expected, given the status of this season's "stars." I'm already sick of Derek and the coddling he gets from the judges/TPTB. As far as I can remember, he's been paired up with near-ringers or better, and it's nauseating, especially the slurping from Carrie-Ann! Oh, and Brandy grates too. She's been attention-whoring for a minute now.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:45 PM

I'm actually glad to hear that TPTB are going to explain "boo-gate". By saying this was all about JG's scores, it deprives Faux News and other conservative outlets of the chance to play the Sarah-Palin-is-a-victim card.

Bristol seems like a nice enough girl, but I think she was waaaaaay overscored for her rather uninspired performance. Yeah, this is a reality show, and she'll bring in the numbers, just as Kate G. did. I wish it were just about the dancing, but it never seems to be.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 6:07 PM

Sure, I can see how booing a polite, non-hateful person would be rude, but when the object of the booing is not exactly a modicum of politeness, class and virtue, then I don't care. Boo away. People like Palin...are so antagonistic and rude in the manner in which they try to communicate I'm not entirely sure why they'd be shocked if they get a little bit of their own medicince.


My sentiments exactly. I was surprised by the incident, but I can't say that I was particularly disappointed.

But off Sarah and onto Bristol: Does she have a huge head or does Mark Ballas have a pin-head? Because every time they're standing or sitting together for their interviews, her seemingly XXL head and his seemingly XXS head are all I can focus on. She seems nice enough (although rather bland), but the poor girl is way out of her element. Contrast her to Kyle, who is a true showman, and there's just no competition. I think this is the problem with deciding who qualifies as a "Star" on this show. She's not a show business star, she's just famous for being related to somebody famous. I enjoy the dancers who are truly entertainers in the business--they know how to put on a good show.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 6:26 PM

I'm really torn on the Bolton/Chelsie situation as I think there is fault to be found on both sides to some degree. Even if Bolton has had prior committments and expected to leave early, I still don't think he was quite Master P'ing his way through the competition. Plus the guy freaking crawled out of a doghouse for Chelsie. But I can understand how and way Chelsie would be beyond frustrated with the situation. At the same time, I think Chelsie could have handled the situation better and her choreography was atrocious.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 6:38 PM

I think right behind the awfulness of Michael Bolton is The Situation. He is awful and CA called it correctly. Either one could go and I would be happy.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 6:52 PM

Is Bristol's baby one of those special invisible babies? Because we've seen her mom, her sister, her home town, her mom again, even her mom's house, but no baby in sight.


Oh my God can you even imagine the outrage if Tripp is ever showcased? "She's exploiting that baby!!! Famewhore!!! She's really Trig's mother anyway!!1111!!!!" As far as I'm concerned, I hope they never show that little boy on DWTS -- regardless of how adorable he is.

I don't understand the "she should be home taking care of her kid" way of thinking... first of all, whatever happened to "working mothers"? Should all mothers stay home with their children? Also, Bristol is hardly the first woman with a young child to be on the show -- Brooke has, what, 5 kids? Doesn't Brandy have at least one child? Why is no one calling for THEM to stay home with their children, or denigrating them for having a nanny? It's hatred for the Palins, and nothing more. While some say "do as I say, not as I do" comes from the Palins, they are just as much held to a double standard.

Anyway. I've said my piece, and don't want to get slapped on the wrist for talking about the boards on the boards (FTR by "people" I mean people in general, not here on the boards) or being off topic... it's time for Glee, besides!

Edited by wordnerd, Sep 28, 2010 @ 6:53 PM.


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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 6:53 PM

Here is a question for anyone who has personally attended this performance (or any of the shows for that matter). Week after week I notice that when some celebrity barely begins dancing, there are shrieks and Woo-hoos from the crowd over the most insignificant and simple dance moves. Who is responsible for all of those grating "Woos"? Are there really such simpletons in the crowd that are so easily aroused or are those "Woos" and "Aaaaahs" just added as filler by the sound guys?

This. The clapping and cheering over the most minor things is just ridiculous.
Bristol's gloves looked like Spanx for arms with her flab coming out the top. Plus, she dances like a horse--who are they kidding with an 8? What a joke. Speaking of jokes, Sarah Palin has every right to be in the audience but please Tom, for God's sake don't talk to her!! The trip to Alaska was bad enough but she gets to babble during the live show too? STFU Sarah.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 7:02 PM

Didn't we have the "she should be home with her kids" argument last season about Kate Gosselin? And yet most have no problem with the male stars being on the show, no matter how many young children they have at home.

All to say, the Palin talk is getting a little vitriolic. Let's dial it back a bit, please. You can like or dislike Bristol and/or her mother, but try to express your opinion like a grown-up. Thanks.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 7:17 PM

Maks is something of an asshole to his partners.

I really thought Brandy mouthed Sh"tHe@d. Did anyone else think that?

The bloom is off the rose for Max and Brandy. Whether they can cobble together a constructive working relationship going forward is yet to be seen. It all depends on Brandy - 'cuz Max is not going to change!

I'm really not seeing anything great about Rick Fox. ... I also don't find him attractive at all. I think his face is kind of creepy looking. Now, Kurt Warner on the other hand, is really doing it for me.

Totally opposite for me: Kurt is vanilla, Rick is rocky road.
Like my grandma used to say: “For every pot there is a lid”.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 7:31 PM

I am really not enjoying this season. The pros seem snotty and are mistreating the celebs so much it's not fun to watch. It was too soon in the competition to pull out the Quickstep and the Jive.

I have never liked Chelsea H. She seems peeved that she didn't get the "good" celeb, so she is taking it out on Michael Bolton. He is no spring chicken. I watched the show again today and feel like he started out really trying, then there is a point where he either flubbed up or just forgot. Instead of covering or helping him, I feel like she probably hissed something bad to him and pushed/pulled him around the rest of the dance so he never recovered. I mean, he was a little weak in the beginning, but looked the same level as some of the other celebs. Their relationship seems toxic. I wouldn't blame him if he came up with an injury to get away from the biotch. And speaking of biotches, I have lost all respect for Bruno.

Bristol is being carried along with inflated scores to keep her on board for ratings. It's not like she has a fan base. What's with her wardrobe? I wonder if they are covering up massive tattoos like Margaret Cho's. They're covering her up like she's Amish.

I like Jennifer G. She really looked good last night. The judges seem to have borrowed the crack pipe from the Project Runway group. Those scores were way too low for that performance.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 7:55 PM

Okay, was I seeing things, or did Rick really almost take Cheryl out when he whipped that leg of his over her head? None of the judges mentioned it, so maybe I was seeing things?


I thought so too. Cheryl gave no reaction, so either she expected it to be close or she’s one heck of an actress.

If he does well, maybe this means Brett Favre will be on DWTS next year?


OK! Now that’s where I draw the line. I never thought I’d say I refuse to watch a season of DWTS, but if that traitorous prima donna gets on DWTS, I guarantee I will NOT watch. GRRRR (In case you couldn’t figure it out I’m from Wisconsin. LOL)

No one even booed Tom Delay, and he's a convicted felon, isn't he?


No, he is not. He was indicted but never even went to trial, it was dismissed.

I heard Bruno's comment to Florence and Corky as "dragging Miss Daisy," which I thought was super-mean. Nice to find out it was just really mean.


That’s what I thought he said too. Went and watched again and it still sounds like “dragging” to me.


Michael Bolton: His dancing was awful, but certainly better tahn Master P's. Bruno was way out of line. As far as the doghouse is concerned, let's not be too hasty condemning it. That was the best part of his performance, he did it very well.


Now for “Boo-Gate”: I don’t for one minute believe the booing was for SP, and I’ll tell you why. I don’t ever remember since the show has been on, that there was ever booing for anything but the judges’ comments and the scores. I don’t see why it would start now, and certainly not before she even spoke. And by the way it was Tom talking to her not Brooke. Audiences are given instructions before show time, and you can bet your bottom dollar booing a pro, star, guest or audience member is a big no no. This is a matter of the rabid ultra left liberals wishful thinking that their rabid ultra conservative right wing fundamentalist was so heartily disapproved of. BAH HUMBUG on both sides.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 8:11 PM

sparkareno said:

Sarah Palin has every right to be in the audience but please Tom, for God's sake don't talk to her!!

With respect, I don't see how they really could have completely avoided talking to her either. If they had, they'd have created controversy the other way. That is, by purposely ignoring "the elephant in the room"--even though they DO interview other celebrities' relatives/friends who come to the "ballroom" to support their loved ones--because they didn't want to be accused of perhaps espousing 1 political view over another by talking to her (though, yeah, talking to her does give viewers a perceived lack of "neutrality" on their part). If they had ignored her, they'd have had as many "You're not being fair because you didn't interview Sarah Palin when she was there to support Bristol, when you interview other family/loved ones of contestants" comments (I mean generally speaking) as they're getting (again, generally speaking) for talking to her on air. JMHO (full disclosure: Not a supporter of SP's politics, but in the context of this show I have nothing against Bristol so far).

They're really in a "damned if we do, damned if we don't" position with Bristol's Mom being who/the polarizing figure she is & the fact that friends & relatives do (& should) show up in the audience to support their loved one in the competition. If those friends/famly get interviewed there probably isn't a graceful way to decline it once Tom is sitting next to you for it. Not all viewers are gonna be happy what they do in regards to this, whether they interview her or ignore her, & it's up to ABC to deal with the fallout.

As for an earlier comment regarding Audrina--someone asked upthread what else she had to do besides practice dancing now that The Hills (her MTV reality show) is off the air--since she gained notoriety through The Hills, she's become 1 of those "reality stars" who periodically shows up in Las Vegas to be a "Celebrity Host" at the popular casino-resort nightclubs. In other words, she gets paid to party. So does Mike S., thanks to Jersey Shore, for that matter. All celebrities who are "Celebrity Hosts" get paid fairly handsomely, I understand.

As for "boo-gate", I get Tom's Tweets on my feed. He said something earlier today to the effect of they were gonna show that from a different angle than the 1 that aired live, which would put that controversy to rest.

Edited by BW Manilowe, Sep 28, 2010 @ 8:14 PM.


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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 9:26 PM

At about midpoint she and Derek fell behind the music just for a moment, but he led her back to the tempo. That routine was unbelievably energetic. I don't think she was being dramatic. He's driving her to a win. Disco is about 125 bpm, they were going at it at about 200+. Try it yourself and see how quickly you get exhausted.


I compare it to world-class figure skaters, who are a third or half Jennifer's age, who train 7 days a week, who go out and skate a four-minute routine and are drenched in sweat and gasping for air at the end. I think we almost had a Marie Osmond moment.


If he does well, maybe this means Brett Favre will be on DWTS next year?


OK! Now that’s where I draw the line. I never thought I’d say I refuse to watch a season of DWTS, but if that traitorous prima donna gets on DWTS, I guarantee I will NOT watch.


Ha! They'd have to send a delegation to Hattiesburg, MS, to beg him to compete, then spend two months wondering is he, or isn't he, actually going to participate. And of course he would have to show up for the first dance without having practiced, and would wonder why his first two dances weren't up to par. And if we think watching Sarah Palin is annoying, there'd have to be the obligatory interviews with and cuts back and forth to Deanna Favre. Gack.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 10:50 PM

Ha! They'd have to send a delegation to Hattiesburg, MS, to beg him to compete, then spend two months wondering is he, or isn't he, actually going to participate. And of course he would have to show up for the first dance without having practiced, and would wonder why his first two dances weren't up to par. And if we think watching Sarah Palin is annoying, there'd have to be the obligatory interviews with and cuts back and forth to Deanna Favre. Gack.


Word! Truer ones were never spoken. GACK is right!

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 11:43 PM

Ha! They'd have to send a delegation to Hattiesburg, MS, to beg him to compete, then spend two months wondering is he, or isn't he, actually going to participate. And of course he would have to show up for the first dance without having practiced, and would wonder why his first two dances weren't up to par. And if we think watching Sarah Palin is annoying, there'd have to be the obligatory interviews with and cuts back and forth to Deanna Favre. Gack.


I honestly think I'd take two more seasons of Kate Gosselin before one season of Brett Favre. And I used to like the guy, but right around his 100th "I'm going to retire...oh, wait, maybe I won't....yeah, I will...oh, nope, I want to play" bullshit, I realized his an attention starved egomaniac. And after catching them actually following his fucking SUV down the road to training camp? I realized that his every move, word, piss, and crap apparently needs to be breathlessly documented for us to appease his ego, and, well, I'll pass.

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Posted Sep 29, 2010 @ 12:59 AM

Don't want to get too offtopic but my ex boyfriend's older brother went to the same high school as Favre and he has said he was a complete and utter tool and asshole. I doubt he has changed much.

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Posted Sep 29, 2010 @ 7:47 AM

If you want to keep talking about Favre on DWTS, please do so in the Wish List thread. Thanks.

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Posted Sep 29, 2010 @ 4:43 PM

I saw the different-camera-angle of Boo-gate this morning. Does anybody else think it looked more like a re-enactment? Anyway, from that angle, the booing didn't start until after Bruno gave his score. If the audience was booing J&D's 8's, wouldn't they have started booing after Carrie Ann's?

I am sure SP did not ask Tom to solicit her opinion about the judges or contestants. I am sure Tom did not mean to give her the role of a commentator; it was one of those situations that could be just laughed or frowned at, but instead, it has been made such a big deal of - it is all over the internet. Sad.


Tom called her a "guest commentator". Figured he (or TPTB) meant to give her that.


Okay, was I seeing things, or did Rick really almost take Cheryl out when he whipped that leg of his over her head? None of the judges mentioned it, so maybe I was seeing things?

I thought so too. Cheryl gave no reaction, so either she expected it to be close or she’s one heck of an actress.


Funny - I saw this move from another camera angle too. Looked to me like it was planned, because then Rick sorta lifted/kicked Cheryl's head upright with the back of his knee to lift her into a standing position. Nice choreography, then.

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Posted Sep 29, 2010 @ 7:56 PM

Okay, was I seeing things, or did Rick really almost take Cheryl out when he whipped that leg of his over her head? None of the judges mentioned it, so maybe I was seeing things?

I gasped when Rick and Cheryl did that – I also thought they had made a mistake and were going down.

aps817 posted a video of a favorite DWTS dance this morning of Dmitry and Mya dancing their Salsa.
They had the same move (at 1:10):

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XYfRCLkRAxY

Looks less dangerous with Dmitry’s leg action.

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Posted Sep 29, 2010 @ 9:22 PM

WOW Very interesting. You'd think with Rick's added height he would have cleared Cheryl easier. A lot more respect for Rick for executing what looks like a rather difficult move. Dmitry makes it look effortless, but timing I would think needs to be flawless. Not to mention the trust on the woman's side.

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Posted Sep 30, 2010 @ 5:04 PM

I have to admit that I didn't find Bruno's comments to Michael bad or CA's comments about "The Situations" pigeon-toes. Though in fairness I am used to the British version.

But I so want to know what the US public would make of one of our judges, Craig Revel-Horwood.

BP seems like a really nice girl but yeah, she really needs to overcome her shyness and reserved nature. If she can, I do think she can blossom as a dancer (but obviously will not get to the latter stages).