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[TWoP Howard]

Played by Katey Sagal, she is wife to Clay, and mother to Jax by her marriage to John Teller. At the end of Season Two, she was fleeing Upton.

I’m open to suggestions for the thread title.

Edited by TWoP Howard, Sep 4, 2010 @ 10:59 AM.

[nicole61083]

I have a suggestion gemma morrow: the scariest one of all

[Gabria13]

I’m open to suggestions for the thread title.

God Wants Her To Be A Fierce Mother.

Edited by Gabria13, Sep 7, 2010 @ 10:59 PM.

[ThatBadgerChick]

All Hail The Queen.

[Doorlocks]

God Wants Her To Be A Fierce Mother.

Perfect!

[Coldit]

And finally Katey Sagal snags herself an Emmy nomination! I thought she should've gotten it for S2, but she's still wonderful. I imagine she submitted one of Gemma's scenes with her dad.

[momallrat]

She was nominated for a Golden Globe, not an Emmy. However,the Emmys do often nominate those who have been nominated for Golden Globes because that kind of attention puts a show on the Emmy voters collective radar. We can only hope that happens in this case.

Edited by momallrat, Dec 14, 2010 @ 2:30 PM.

[Coldit]

She was nominated for a Golden Globe, not an Emmy.

I know, sorry about that -- it was early. For me, anyway!

[Morrolan]

She was nominated for a Golden Globe, not an Emmy. However,the Emmys do often nominate those who have been nominated for Golden Globes because that kind of attention puts a show on the Emmy voters collective radar. We can only hope that happens in this case.

Meh after this season I'm over her. She's good for the role but I now find her really mannered. And given the Globes also nominated Piper Perabo its not much of an honour.

[geminigirl789]

From e-online's coverage

The HFPA surely pleased legions of scorned Sons of Anarchy fans by naming Katey Sagal Best Actress in a TV Drama, finally sending some love her way for her role as the stoic yet ruthlessly protective First Old Lady of a morally compromised motorcycle club.

Read more: http://uk.eonline.co...l#ixzz1BHKi0WuY

She should've won it for S2, but I'll take it. They were on in the middle of the night for me, so couldn't watch the show itself. Did anyone else from SoA show up?

This from EW

WORST: Katey Sagal gets played off
Immediately after Christian Bale's marathon acceptance speech, Katey Sagal strolled onstage to receive a Globe for Sons of Anarchy...and had barely even said ''Thank you'' before the exit music started playing. (TV people in general didn't get much love from the Globes' producers tonight — Steve Buscemi had just begin his acceptance speech when he noted plaintively of the teleprompter, ''It's saying 'Please wrap up' already!'')

Not sure I love the dress.

Edited by geminigirl789, Jan 17, 2011 @ 3:25 AM.

[Coldit]

They were on in the middle of the night for me, so couldn't watch the show itself. Did anyone else from SoA show up?

Sutter was the only one I saw.

[gianr369]

Ally Walker (Stahl) was there. She seemed very happy for Katey.

[CtLady]

Moved from The Sons In The Media thread discussion since it's Gemma-related:

I too thought that the problem was not with Katie Sagal's performance, it was that Gemma became almost unbearable to watch. Gemma's antics in Season 3 put the club in a very dangerous postion and it was hard for me to root for her like i did in season 2 because Gemma never thinks things through. She's very aggressive, assertive and stubborn which is funny because it's those same things that made me root for her. Another thing that bothers me about Gemma is that she never really pays for the things she puts in motion. She set out to kill Zobelle's daughter, regardless of the girls actions she didn't deserve to die and accidentedly caused the death of the caregiver, i know that was an accident but it bothers me how easy it is for her to take a life. She put into effect the events of Abel's kidnapping but NOBODY calls her out on it - that's what eats me up the most about Gemma. NO ONE has the guts to keep her in line.

I disagree. Polly Zobelle certainly had what was coming to her. She facilitated in the gang rape of another woman. She also was helping her father run illegal guns and heroin to criminals. She wasn't exactly Pollyanna!

The caretaker did try to shoot Gemma, granted the gun was empty. She attacked Gemma with a knife and hit Tara upside the head with an oxygen tank and all Tara did was try to help her

I agree that Polly and the caretaker deserved it, but what about Gemma just taking off to her dad's when she was under strict orders to stay in hiding at the cabin? What about taking off after bringing her dad to a home to go turn herself in, causing the entire MC to rush back for her, which resulted in her heart attack? What about her NEED to sneak out of the hospital to go off to Ireland with the rest of the boys because, well, it's HER GRANDSON - forcing Tig to be left behind? Tig telling Jax "you need your mom more" was BULLSHIT! There's nothing Gemma could've done that Tig couldn't.

And while in Ireland, if it weren't for Fiona's cool head, Gemma would've ordered the death of her entire family if Fiona didn't stop Gemma from killing Jimmy in Mo's kitchen. Just her sitting at the table with the other guys in Ireland, giving her input, etc. is so unrealistic because old ladies - President's wives or not - are supposed to keep their nose out of club business - unless their name is Gemma Teller-Morrow. I think Gemma takes her position as the founder's late wife and the current president's wife to her head.

Then...when she gets back from Ireland, Clay tells her to get to the cabin where Piney's waiting for her, but noooooooo she had to stay and hold Abel a little while longer.

That's what bothers me about Gemma. Jax gets called out by Clay because Jax won't ask Tara for help whereas Clay says, "she's just a chick", then Jax's "act like an old lady....do what you're told!" schpiel to Tara, yet Gemma - Queen Frickin' Bee or not - gets away with it.

[Kel Varnsen]

The caretaker did try to shoot Gemma, granted the gun was empty. She attacked Gemma with a knife and hit Tara upside the head with an oxygen tank and all Tara did was try to help her

I agree that Polly and the caretaker deserved it, but what about Gemma just taking off to her dad's when she was under strict orders to stay in hiding at the cabin?

Wait I am a little confused, are you saying that the care taker deserved to be killed and Gemma was justified in murdering her (and let's face it even though the actual death was accidental it was still murder). I mean that caretaker lady was kidnapped and held captive by a wanted fugitive, she was killed trying to escape from captivity (since she probably felt even if she didn’t escape she would be killed anywyas). And once she was killed her body was dissolved with chemicals and poured down a laundry sink. All this happened to her just because she took a job as a home care nurse. Do you really think she had it coming?

[CtLady]

All this happened to her just because she took a job as a home care nurse. Do you really think she had it coming?

Yes, the murder was accidental, but Gemma let's face it - the caretaker did pull a rifle on Gemma because she wanted to turn her in for the reward money. And, if Gemma put up a fight, I wouldn't think twice that the caretaker wouldn't have shot Gemma. I guess it's a matter of kill or be killed. Which, of course, all of this would've been avoided if Gemma just "did what she was told as an old lady" and stayed put under watch instead of forcing Tig to leave his post and follow her like a puppy dog to see her father.

[Kel Varnsen]

Yes, the murder was accidental, but Gemma let's face it - the caretaker did pull a rifle on Gemma because she wanted to turn her in for the reward money. And, if Gemma put up a fight, I wouldn't think twice that the caretaker wouldn't have shot Gemma. I guess it's a matter of kill or be killed.

The nurse was just some lady trying to do her job Gemma was a fugitive wanted for murder. The killing might have been accidental in that it wasn't planned, but just about everywhere if you are holding someone against there will and you use force and kill them when they try to escape it is still murder.

[justcause]

Just got into this show through friends and can't get over how amazingly Shakespearean/Lady MacBeth Gemma is. The performance is so riveting how is this series not on everyone's minds. It's fantastic!

[TWoP Howard]

This show. For the last several episodes, I’ve been wondering why Gemma has been unable to see or to admit that Jax and Tara and the boys could be happier (or at least a lot safer) living away from Charming. After these last two episodes, I finally think I see it. If Jax doesn’t stay in Charming and become President of the club, her entire life is meaningless. She gave up her relationship with her parents, lost one husband and a baby, and has spent twenty years scheming and fighting to the point where she has turned on her second husband, so that the day would come when Jax would take his rightful place on the throne. If that doesn’t happen, or if Tara is the person who makes that happen, what was her life for?

[HickoryColt]

I have watched the first two seasons on Netflix. I keep trying to think how this show varies from all the other variations of the outlaws with their own culture, i.e. The Godafther, Sopranos, etc. Besides the obvious that these are bikers rather than the mafia, Gemma stands out because she full embraces the club and what it stands for, even participates in its evil ways. This is as opposed to most of the mafia wives that try to live in and out of the world, enjoying the lifestyle while trying to imagine that they are innocent of the lives of their husbands or simply don't know what they are truly doing when nothing could be farther from the truth. Its certainly a different perspective for a female lead in this situation

[TommyWalt]

By far the most Machiavellian character on the show. She will undoubtedly be left standing on top of the steaming pile when all has been written...

[TWoP Howard]

Gemma stands out because she full embraces the club and what it stands for, even participates in its evil ways. This is as opposed to most of the mafia wives that try to live in and out of the world, enjoying the lifestyle while trying to imagine that they are innocent of the lives of their husbands or simply don't know what they are truly doing when nothing could be farther from the truth.

And she has relationships within the club with some of the men outside of just being Clay's wife. Carmela Soprano was social with the other members of the mob, but they seem pretty superficial when compared to Gemma's relationship with Tig, and a couple of others, for example. Helps her with the Machiavellian stuff.