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Posted May 19, 2012 @ 5:16 PM

Gorgeous essay on the casino scene in 5x24. I definitely agree with the author that Leighton Meester played Blair perfectly in that moment. Blair wasn't smug, she wasn't acting like she owned Chuck and she expected him to immediately disregard all his misgivings, but she was calm and confident that things would work out eventually. Also agreed that Chuck's "Chuck Bass" facade cracked when he first saw Blair. Some of my favourite Chuck moments are the ones where the mask slips and you see the vulnerable boy/man underneath, and nearly all of them involve Blair in some way.

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Posted May 22, 2012 @ 2:07 PM

Gorgeous essay on the casino scene in 5x24. I definitely agree with the author that Leighton Meester played Blair perfectly in that moment. Blair wasn't smug, she wasn't acting like she owned Chuck and she expected him to immediately disregard all his misgivings, but she was calm and confident that things would work out eventually. Also agreed that Chuck's "Chuck Bass" facade cracked when he first saw Blair. Some of my favourite Chuck moments are the ones where the mask slips and you see the vulnerable boy/man underneath, and nearly all of them involve Blair in some way.


Wow, thanks for sharing that mylatestfling. I agree so much. Blair has never seemed more self-assured, calm, and just plain sure as she did in that scene in my opinion. Other than Blair's speech, which was great, my favorite part about the casino scene was the way they stared and stared at each other at the end. These two communicate so much with their eyes, I imagine Chuck found everything he needed in Blair's eyes to encourage him to go all in with her.

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Posted Jun 2, 2012 @ 1:50 PM

I couldn't write before but I LOVED the finale especially CB scenes were perfection IMO. Such an amazing call back to 4x9, such an amazing ending with casino scene. I am so in as well as Blair and looking forward to Season 6 now after this finale. I liked how things turned around pretty much. CB wise it was so interesting to watch Eleanor and Bart in contrast scenes with their behaviousr they have showed to their children. Bart was so harsh that Chuck and Bart's scene on rooptop broke my heart but damn Ed (&Robert) killed it again. And even tho Bart had some points right, he wasn't exactly right on everything IMO. How he could be this harsh to Chuck I really don't get. Other than that I really wanted to see an Eleanor and Bart scene. LOL. Definitely we will get one in Season 6, right? ;) Also I love Jack and I want to see 3 Bass men in one room!!!

Nevertheless I loved how Blair's diary showed where her heart lies, it was not the whole I have expected to see. And it was not shocking because we already knew (unlike Dan as it seems). She has never quit loving Chuck but trying to take control of her heart when she was saying "i am not in love with you, at least not the way you deserve" to Chuck and saying "I figured out someone else had my heart now" to Dan. She was totally having her heart to herself. Otherwise many things with Dan would be easy (saying ILY, deciding to go to Rome, being there for him with his success, etc). It was a call back to 2x13 scene Chuck saying "You deserve better" to Blair IMO. She never showed any romantic feelings to Dan, so how he could push her to this relationship, to this torturous second half? I think he again blocked out by his blind feelings for C[s]B[/s]laire.

More than anything else in the finale, it was amazing to see Blair this determined and as herself at the end. It took a whole season because in 5x10 for example she waited for Chuck's decision. And she was waiting for powerful woman arc to return as it seems. After Eleanor showed her trust to her about her business and saying the exact same thing that Chuck said in 4x22 "You are the most powerful woman I know" she understood that there is nothing on her way now. Still its confusing in some points and I was waiting to get more POV from her diary but really whatever at this point. LOL. Especially baby SL was so wasted and disrespectful to fans. But I want to look forward at this point.

Knowing what she wants, going after it, being there for Chuck and fighting for him! I seriously melted and remembered why I loved Blair as a character this much. Still fan girling over the last seconds because even before that (before the rooftop scene) she was acting again so immature (Her acts to Serena? I am just furious because of her behaviour against Serena).

Now its time for CB to have this blank page and ready to build their futures together. Too bad I already started to have high expectations about Season 6 but there will be only 10-11 episodes as I heard and now I worry it wouldn't be enough ;) This whole season seems so wasted to me, I hope Season 6 will be amazing...

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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 7:51 PM

After re-watching, I think I've finally worked out what turned me off Chuck and Blair in the finale and the episodes leading up to it.

I feel that their reunion was completely and utterly rushed and tacked on, and as a fan who has been watching since 3x18 in hopes of their epic reunion I feel incredibly cheated. I can see why most fans and critics are shaking their heads in amazement. Where was the build up? Where was the longing that we saw from Blair in season 2? I know the finale tried to tell us that Blair has been pining for Chuck during her entire relationship with Dan, but when was this actually shown? I can only fanwank things so far. At some point I need the writers to actually come to the table and at least make an attempt to help us buy what they're selling. I almost feel like the season 5 finale should have been placed on the end of season 4. That's when it would have made most sense. No Louis, no royals, CB would have been together all this season, no Dair.

I always said that I would only support CB as long as their story made sense to me and I was still rooting for both characters. However I've seen nothing appealing about their dynamic in season 5, and it seems as if they were just thrown together in the finale for the sake of doing it. There was no buildup and to me that's the best part.

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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 11:12 PM

I feel that their reunion was completely and utterly rushed and tacked on, and as a fan who has been watching since 3x18 in hopes of their epic reunion I feel incredibly cheated.


I feel the reunion was rushed and we could have used a little more build up, but because of their history I don't think Chuck choosing Blair or vice-versa would ever seem totally out of the blue to me. I think there were hints in the few preceding episodes. It was more of the show don't tell used to explain Blair's choice of Dan earlier in the year. At that point she kept telling Chuck she loved him, but she kept seeking out Dan for support/comfort, etc. Here she kept telling Dan she wanted to be with him, but she was prioritizing Chuck. Things like spending time with Chuck in lieu of even doing the Rome interview.

I think the contact Blair was having with Chuck regarding all the Bart stuff was Blair starting to fall back in love with Chuck. This to me certainly could have been made more clear by the writers, and would probably have been helped if shown in a few more episodes leading up to the finale. But to me Blair seemed more like herself in those episodes in her interactions with Chuck than she had all season, and she was animated and eager to be involved in Chuck's life, a stark contrast to her clearly not wanting to spend the summer in Rome with Dan.

I know the finale tried to tell us that Blair has been pining for Chuck during her entire relationship with Dan, but when was this actually shown?


I don't think they meant to imply that Blair had been pining for Chuck the whole time she was with Dan. I think it's more that she realized she had a special connection with Dan, wanted to see where it would lead, enjoyed their relationship and cared for him very much. It's almost like she put her feelings for Chuck in a box and hid them away, and to me the show showed that she clearly enjoyed being with Dan. But spending time with Chuck led to her feeling slipping out of the box, and when forced to decide (by Dan's ultimatum, no less), she realized she just didn't love Dan the way she loved Chuck. The conversation with Eleanor showed her to be truly conflicted, but in the end she decided the highs and lows with Chuck were worth the risk. It reminded me of when Joey told Pacey in Dawson's Creek that he made her "feel alive." She prioritized this over a safer, tender, meeting of the minds that she shared with Dan. Of course, whether this was a wise choice will be debated hotly, forevermore.

At some point I need the writers to actually come to the table and at least make an attempt to help us buy what they're selling.


I do agree that the writers were pretty terrible in making a shift in Blair's feelings absolutely clear, and I think they could have done a much better job of revealing Blair's POV through her diary. Since we have had so little of Blair's POV this entire year I was actually thankful for even the little bit the diary gave, but I didn't have such a hard time buying her choosing Chuck. And I was actually happy to see her make a choice and go "all in", as the ability to do that with any of her three gentlemen suitors has been her downfall all season.

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Posted Jun 4, 2012 @ 5:56 PM

I feel that their reunion was completely and utterly rushed and tacked on, and as a fan who has been watching since 3x18 in hopes of their epic reunion I feel incredibly cheated. I can see why most fans and critics are shaking their heads in amazement. Where was the build up? Where was the longing that we saw from Blair in season 2? I know the finale tried to tell us that Blair has been pining for Chuck during her entire relationship with Dan, but when was this actually shown? I can only fanwank things so far. At some point I need the writers to actually come to the table and at least make an attempt to help us buy what they're selling. I almost feel like the season 5 finale should have been placed on the end of season 4. That's when it would have made most sense. No Louis, no royals, CB would have been together all this season, no Dair.



I personally haven’t read of any critics “shaking their heads” at the Chuck and Blair part of the finale, although GG itself was greatly criticized throughout Season Five for many reasons—and it wasn’t because of Chuck and Blair. Also, I didn’t think it was rushed. Like Blair said, which I was satisified with since it’s what I have observed since at least Season Four, she has been trying to hide from her feelings for Chuck and trying to “kill them” for a long time. This started with her “strong single woman” arc, was followed by the fairytale arc, which bled into the DB arc, and ended with her realizing that Chuck a) has changed and b) is worth the risk because she loves him more than she may ever love anyone else.

In my opinion, I didn’t really see the casino scene as a reunion, so much as the beginning of their reunion arc. They have 10 episodes to do it, so of course everything is going to feel rushed, but I think the writers knew it was just time to get Chuck and Blair back together, especially with such a short season remaining to tie everything else together.

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Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 4:53 PM

I do not think I have been this excited for a GG season since season 3. I feel like now that the third party issue is dead and buried we are finally getting the CB we deserve.
Even if last season was horrible in a lot of ways I feel like in the finale with CB they finally got where they were going. Blair was finally acting like Blair again and that to me was key.

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Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 5:23 PM

Blair was finally acting like Blair again and that to me was key.


It was a little clunky but I kind of LOVED how totally obvious it was that Blair "found herself" through Chuck. She was looking for her inspiration - and there was Chuck.

I feel like now that the third party issue is dead and buried we are finally getting the CB we deserve.


I liked how the finale kind of reset Chuck and Blair back to Season 1 - but with a twist. Blair's mother is going to figure hugely in her life again - but this time in a really positive way. Chuck has issues with his distant father again - but this time he's matured, and he can count on support from Jack, Nate and (most of all) Blair. Blair is at odds with her best friend again but this time she has to accept partial responsibility for that. Blair's determinedly chasing a guy again - but this time the guy's unsure not because he doesn't love her, but because he loves her so much. All very cool, and bodes well for Season 6. Would love to see 6x01 end with Chuck and Blair together, a "meeting of minds" (Savage, I think) like 1x01 - but this time they're coming together to save Serena rather than destroy her.

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Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 5:47 PM

I liked how the finale kind of reset Chuck and Blair back to Season 1 - but with a twist. Blair's mother is going to figure hugely in her life again - but this time in a really positive way. Chuck has issues with his distant father again - but this time he's matured, and he can count on support from Jack, Nate and (most of all) Blair. Blair is at odds with her best friend again but this time she has to accept partial responsibility for that. Blair's determinedly chasing a guy again - but this time the guy's unsure not because he doesn't love her, but because he loves her so much. All very cool, and bodes well for Season 6. Would love to see 6x01 end with Chuck and Blair together, a "meeting of minds" (Savage, I think) like 1x01 - but this time they're coming together to save Serena rather than destroy her.


That is a great summary of how this is a better reset of Season 1. I could so see Chuck and Blair working together to help Serena. I think she is very important to both of them and I think if they thought they could lose her it would be very traumatic for both of them. I am sort of reminded of season 4 beg. Blair tells Chuck to get out of her life and she never wants to see him again and its Serena who brings him back. I could see Chuck playing the Serena role with Blair having to take a little more responsibility this time. I think CB will really work together to fix SB and Bart/Chuck

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Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 6:23 PM

That is a great summary of how this is a better reset of Season 1. I could so see Chuck and Blair working together to help Serena. I think she is very important to both of them and I think if they thought they could lose her it would be very traumatic for both of them. I am sort of reminded of season 4 beg. Blair tells Chuck to get out of her life and she never wants to see him again and its Serena who brings him back. I could see Chuck playing the Serena role with Blair having to take a little more responsibility this time. I think CB will really work together to fix SB and Bart/Chuck


When you look back over the first 4 seasons of the show it is crazy how many times CB have reunited/reconnected through trying to save Serena. It is like saving Serena has always given Chuck and Blair an excuse to spend time together and connect (because Serena is a sister to both of them TBH) without ever actually having to say that they miss each other and want to reconnect. Now they are both a lot more mature and open with their feelings, I think that working together to help Serena could be a way for Chuck and Blair to show how brilliantly they work together*. I agree we will get a scene where Chuck plays the role Serena played in 4x02, i.e. pushing Blair to admit that she would hate to lose Serena for good. This also ties back to Season 3 where Chuck helped end the SB fight. Given that SB is the most important relationship on the show, I think having Chuck help fix that relationship (again!) would be a great way of showing how well he understands Blair and what makes her happy.

*Something I have been thinking about is how the writers will write Chuck and Blair in Season 6 to justify the last 5 seasons of on-again-off-again, OTT roadblocks, other main/main pairings being used to prop CB etc etc. I remember an interview where Stephanie Savage talked about saving the finish line for the finish line - and with 10 episodes to go, we're at the finish line. And given how much Chuck and Blair have been said and shown to be this star-crossed, epic, "great love", the finish line has to be pretty effing spectacular - the phrase "go big, or go home" comes to mind. I can't wait! I just hope we get time for a few quiet, tender CB moments amid all the drama.

Edited by mylatestfling, Jul 4, 2012 @ 6:25 PM.


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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 1:19 AM

That is a great summary of how this is a better reset of Season 1. I could so see Chuck and Blair working together to help Serena. I think she is very important to both of them and I think if they thought they could lose her it would be very traumatic for both of them. I am sort of reminded of season 4 beg. Blair tells Chuck to get out of her life and she never wants to see him again and its Serena who brings him back. I could see Chuck playing the Serena role with Blair having to take a little more responsibility this time. I think CB will really work together to fix SB and Bart/Chuck


I definitely agree that Serena is very important to both Chuck and Blair and I have always been intrigued by their dynamic in whatever combination it may come. This is a group of people who know each other and can read each other well either beause at one point or another they have been through similar situations and can see right through the other's facade. So I can very well see Chuck trying to fix their friendship because he's fluent in Blair Waldorf subtext and he knows how much Serena means to Blair and I can't think of anyone who's more familiar with downward spirals. Besides, in regards to Serena and Blair's friendship I have always viewed Chuck to be what Serena is to Chuck and Blair; that one person who supports them, encourages and helps them along while having faith in their love and recognises how deep their connection runs. Therefore, Chuck playing the Serena role makes perfect sense to me.

What I find most interesting though is that while saving Serena has usually been used as an opportunity for Chuck and Blair to work together and most of the times reconnect, seeing as they are most likely together already, it could then be a great opportunity for them to deal with whatever issues they still haven't resolved. And since they have decided on no more secrets and they have both matured a lot, working as a team will give them the chance to have some honest conversations where communication will no longer be their weakest point.

And given how much Chuck and Blair have been said and shown to be this star-crossed, epic, "great love", the finish line has to be pretty effing spectacular - the phrase "go big, or go home" comes to mind. I can't wait! I just hope we get time for a few quiet, tender CB moments amid all the drama.


I can't wait either and even though I think the star-crossed, epic, "great love" element that Chuck and Blair were shown to have going for them was often highlighted in a very angsty way, I am very curious to see its happier and lighter aspect. Not that I don't appreciate the simple, little moments of bliss they got but as you said it has to be pretty effing spectacular.

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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 3:44 PM

Something I have been thinking about is how the writers will write Chuck and Blair in Season 6 to justify the last 5 seasons of on-again-off-again, OTT roadblocks, other main/main pairings being used to prop CB etc etc. I remember an interview where Stephanie Savage talked about saving the finish line for the finish line - and with 10 episodes to go, we're at the finish line. And given how much Chuck and Blair have been said and shown to be this star-crossed, epic, "great love", the finish line has to be pretty effing spectacular - the phrase "go big, or go home" comes to mind. I can't wait! I just hope we get time for a few quiet, tender CB moments amid all the drama.



I totally agree that "we're at the finish line." And I think reuniting CB early in the final season (whether they get married, engaged, or something else with a sense of permanence) will provide tons of opportunities to showcase them as a couple and how they handle roadblocks together. I definitely don't think the writers are done throwing obstacles at Chuck and Blair, but I think these ones will be manageable and less OTT. For example, I think they could disagree about what to do about Serena, if Blair is still upset with her, but Chuck wants them to reconcile. I could also see either of them having business-related drama, and instead of hiding it from each other, they would work together and come out on top. That being said, I don't think CB will be in the forefront of the drama (that's reserved for Serena, Dan, and maybe even Nate, IMO), but may be relegated to early S3 background status. I wouldn't mind that at all, especially if there are tender moments.

Edited by iamnotjasmine, Jul 5, 2012 @ 4:05 PM.


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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 4:16 PM

I think reuniting CB early in the final season (whether they get married, engaged, or something else with a sense of permanence) will provide tons of opportunities to showcase them as a couple and how they handle roadblocks together


I agree with this, and this is definitely what I want to see, as long as there is a sense that they have actually talked about things as part of their reunion. I don't necessarily need to see those conversations on-screen, but I want to feel as though Blair has explained herself more than she did in that brief rooftop conversation in 5x24, and that Chuck has talked a little more about his reservations and fears. The Chuck and Blair reunion in 2x25 was so wonderful, but at the same time it was built on shaky ground because there were things they had swept under the carpet - Chuck's horror at finding Blair had slept with Jack, for example.

That being said, I don't think CB will be in the forefront of the drama (that's reserved for Serena, Dan, and maybe even Nate, IMO), but may be relegated to early S3 background status.


It's tricky. I do see the argument that Chuck and Blair have had so much angst already that it's time for them to have a stretch of happy, low-drama episodes. I also appreciate that 5x24 set up a ton of other stories that will create drama and so the writers don't necessarily need to go to the CB "well" for drama and OMFGs. However, it's just that every season finale has been "can Chuck and Blair get it together this time" and I suppose I've always assumed that the series finale would probably be about that too. When you look at similarly iconic and/or on-off TV couples (Ross and Rachel, Carrie and Big, Joey and Pacey) the big reunion is always left until the series finale. Of course I would love for Season 6 to open with a Chuck/Blair wedding, have many happy CB episodes and then end with a Bass-Waldorf family scene - but equally I'm struggling to think of any story that could bring the excitement to the finale as much as a big dramatic CB story.

Edited by mylatestfling, Jul 5, 2012 @ 4:31 PM.


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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 4:41 PM

I don't necessarily need to see those conversations on-screen, but I want to feel as though Blair has explained herself more than she did in that brief rooftop conversation in 5x24, and that Chuck has talked a little more about his reservations and fears.


I definitely agree with that. I can be pleased with knowing that they talked about everything that happened in S5 and they are past it all even if we don't get to see it on-screen. I just feel like it is something that needs to be done so they both feel equals in that relationship and we in turn feel the same.

As for whether or not Chuck and Blair will be in the forefront of the drama or be happy in the background, I believe there is a middle ground between those two. Most often than not, drama was used to separate them and due to all the problems it caused within Chuck and Blair's relationship. It's not far-fetched IMO to say that what kept Chuck and Blair apart was their personal issues along with their issues as a couple. But I don't think we actually saw them having outside roadblocks or problems that had nothing to do with them as a couple. Teaming up to get BI or The Empire back can be a good source of drama without jeopardising their relationship.

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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 4:50 PM

It's tricky. I do see the argument that Chuck and Blair have had so much angst already that it's time for them to have a stretch of happy, low-drama episodes. I also appreciate that 5x24 set up a ton of other stories that will create drama and so the writers don't necessarily need to go to the CB "well" for drama and OMFGs. However, i's just that every season finale has been "can Chuck and Blair get it together this time" and I suppose I've always assumed that the series finale would probably be about that too. When you look at similarly iconic and/or on-off TV couples (Ross and Rachel, Carrie and Big, Joey and Pacey) the big reunion is always left until the series finale. Of course I would love for Season 6 to open with a Chuck/Blair wedding, have many happy CB episodes and then end with a Bass-Waldorf family scene - but equally I'm struggling to think of any story that could bring the excitement to the finale as much as a big dramatic CB story.


This is a great point. I do think the fact that the writers only have half a season might affect this somewhat. I am very doubtful that they will break up Chuck and Blair again, but I also think it goes without saying that the writers will continue to throw obstacles at them up until the very end. Someone will most likely be trying to get between them or mess with them in someway; I just think that they are truly invincible this time around.

I've always thought the series would end with Chuck and Blair's wedding, so it will be very interesting to see how it all pans out. If they marry them early in the season, that would make room for drama regarding babies, family, work, married life, etc, while they also deal with the drama of their friends, parents and other issues outside of their relationship. Maybe there is a wedding in the premiere, and a baby born in the finale or another couple's big event? It's also possible that they'll want another couple such as Serena/Nate or Serena/Dan to take the forefront as the will they/won't they couple (most likely DS).

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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 4:55 PM

I think it would be really hard to find a way to break them up again at this point. Even last season I felt like the show struggled to find a legitimate reason why they were not together. I sort of feel like their big issue is that even with each other its not enough. For so long their big thing has been about how will you get to Chuck and Blair and can they be happy but what happens if they are together and its perfect and its not enough. Chuck still has a father who treats him horribly and Blair is still estranged from her best friend. Can they work together to fix this and communicate properly this time? I suspect yes and I see them front and center in the season but more in the role of being a stable couple and working together as a pair with issues and also having some milestones (marriage, living together, engagement, babies etc)

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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 5:01 PM

Teaming up to get BI or The Empire back can be a good source of drama without jeopardising their relationship.


That's true. Looking back it's a shame that the writing for the Thorpe story wasn't better. There was a lot of potential in the idea of an enemy of Bart's going after Chuck (and Blair getting caught up in it) - very dramatic, very Batman. But unfortunately the execution of the story was kind of anticlimactic (though I do dearly love the shot of Chuck breaking into the room and embracing Blair). Anyway, I think a similar-ish plotline would provide a great excuse for Chuck and Blair to team up and show how well they can work together.

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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 5:03 PM

As for whether or not Chuck and Blair will be in the forefront of the drama or be happy in the background, I believe there is a middle ground between those two. Most often than not, drama was used to separate them and due to all the problems it caused within Chuck and Blair's relationship. It's not far-fetched IMO to say that what kept Chuck and Blair apart was their personal issues along with their issues as a couple. But I don't think we actually saw them having outside roadblocks or problems that had nothing to do with them as a couple. Teaming up to get BI or The Empire back can be a good source of drama without jeopardising their relationship.



I agree. I think Chuck and Blair will have some drama, I just don't think it will be centered around each other. Chuck will probably still be dealing with Bart and trying to get back into BI and Blair has yet to mend her friendship with Serena (or Dan). These are both dramatic storylines that I don't think will affect Chuck and Blair's relationship with each other. So much can be said about Blair's "I'm all in," and prior to that, Chuck's "There's no room for secrets." After Season Five's pact with God, dowry, etc, I think the tone of drama for next season will be drastically different. And after all they've been through, I feel like Chuck and Blair have nowhere to go but to the next level. I'm practically sold on a wedding early on in the season.

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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 5:08 PM

I agree. I think Chuck and Blair will have some drama, I just don't think it will be centered around each other. Chuck will probably still be dealing with Bart and trying to get back into BI and Blair has yet to mend her friendship with Serena (or Dan). These are both dramatic storylines that I don't think will affect Chuck and Blair's relationship with each other. So much can be said about Blair's "I'm all in," and prior to that, Chuck's "There's no room for secrets." After Season Five's pact with God, dowry, etc, I think the tone of drama for next season will be drastically different. And after all they've been through, I feel like Chuck and Blair have nowhere to go but to the next level. I'm practically sold on a wedding early on in the season.


Yes exactly. Before it was usually a communication error or fear that ended up tearing them apart. I think they are past that now, thankfully. So while there will definitely be outside forces screwing with them, I think it won’t be anything that affects them majorly as a couple. I agree that a good takedown will be perfect. As Chuck said in 3.07, they need to “focus their duplicity on others” to be a team, and I don’t think anyone will be able to get between them enough to tear them apart. I do look forward to watching Chuck and Blair take down anyone who tries though!

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Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 5:42 PM

Chuck still has a father who treats him horribly and Blair is still estranged from her best friend.


That's true. They have a lot on their plate and with Dan's book and Georgina on the loose, not only Chuck's efforts to win back his legacy will be challenged but also Blair and Serena will have to deal with the fallout of 5.24 and how it will affect their relationship. And while whatever comes out from that book may cause problems for Chuck and Blair in their individual SLs, the ramifications will probably affect how they will be perceived by society, both individually and as a couple. So, plenty of drama to go around. But as mylatestfling said, the writers' problem wasn't coming up with ideas to create drama (except in S5 because some SLs were just too awful for words) but taking advantage of them and executing them to its fullest potential.

Edited by cherrypies, Jul 5, 2012 @ 5:50 PM.


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Posted Jul 13, 2012 @ 6:03 PM

I can't decide if I think Chuck and Blair will be fully reunited in the premiere or not. I do hope we get to see Chuck's reaction to Blair telling him she's "all in" once he recovers from his shock. I do think they will be a couple in some form. Yet I can also see them taking it slow, "doing it right" which could mirror 1.18. Which reminds me, I expect that there will be lots of season one parallels since season five mirrored season 2 so closely.

I would like to see them in the limo discussing marriage and have one ask the other "are you sure?" Or during their wedding, Chuck asking Blair if she's sure. One of my favorite scenes, of course, in season one was when Chuck gave his best man's speech. I can totally see Chuck coming up with incredible, meaningful wedding vows off the top of his head. If he included something about "perserverance" that would be a really cool moment. I'm sure there are more, but these are the ones I'd most like to see.

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Posted Jul 14, 2012 @ 7:36 AM

Whatever the status of their relationship in the season premier, I hope we get to see Chuck’s response in the casino. If Chuck and Blair are back together, I’d love to see flashbacks of their European adventures. Offscreenlandia is practically a GG main character, but it would be wonderful to see C&B reconnecting and rebuilding. And after the endless obstacles and games, I think the fans deserve an epic C&B reunion.

I agree with the posters who think this time C&B will be forever. There are many other storylines to resolve, most notably SB, that there won't be any time for their usual will they or won’t they drama.

I can’t wait for the C&B wedding however it is achieved. I’d love to see all their friends and family witness their special day, but I’ll take an European elopement as well. I am easy. The one thing I don’t want is a baby/pregnancy storyline. C&B are so young and I want them to enjoy being happy and madly in love, working on their careers, and ruling over the UES. Plenty of time for kids in 5-10 years.

On different note, I was in Nicaragua for vacation last week and stayed at the same surf resort as Connor Paolo(Eric VDW). He is a really nice guy, very smart and sweet. I played it cool and didn’t pester him for Revenge spoilers, but I did ask him if he was going to make an appearance on GG. Unfortunately, because of the Revenge production schedule, he won’t have time to make a guest appearance.

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Posted Aug 30, 2012 @ 9:19 PM

Watching old reruns on GG on Style makes me sad. I thought S1/S2 Blair and Chuck where truely fantastic. I loved the Nate/Blair/Chuck arc in S1.Chuck/Blair first hooking up was so left feild but felt so right and that it was not always set up as OTP made their intial arc of hooking up and eventually falling in love so much more special. I mean back then EW and LM had such amazing chemistry and sexual tension. I loved Victor/Victrola so much for it's Chair moments. You could see how much Blair trusted Chuck and seeing this pretty unlikable male slut/atempted rapist character as Chuck was originally set up as, soften so much in Blair's presence and how deeply he fell in love with her and his hurt and anger at her wanting Nate and them reuniting in the S1 finale and Blair relizeing her feelings for Chuck, only for him to hurt her, I was truely so invested and engaged in Chair and early S2 when Chuck was clearly head over heels in love with Blair but scared to ever invest or admit and watching Blair chase Chuck and her heartache at her love not being returned. GAH I used to love them so much.

I truely do not understand how the show had such an amazing unexpected love story in Bad Boy Chuck and upper east side Queen bitch Blair falling in love and being their awesome scheming, sexy selfs in S1/S2 to the awfullness that became of Chair in the last 3 seasons.

I loved Dan/Blair so much or at least in S4 and felt her was her OTP but I cannot ignore how great Chair was in the very begining and how much I loved them back then. Makes me sad for what became of them and esp Blair.

Edited by glorygirl84, Aug 30, 2012 @ 9:22 PM.


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Posted Sep 6, 2012 @ 4:43 AM

Hello, I'm new here (but not to the GG as a whole - you may recognise my username) and I just wanted to introduce myself and say hello to everyone.

I'm a huge fan of Chuck and Blair and can't wait until season 6 starts and we have new stuff to talk over.

Edited by toneofsurprise, Sep 6, 2012 @ 5:02 AM.


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Posted Sep 12, 2012 @ 3:42 PM

Watching old reruns on GG on Style makes me sad. I thought S1/S2 Blair and Chuck where truely fantastic. I loved the Nate/Blair/Chuck arc in S1.Chuck/Blair first hooking up was so left feild but felt so right and that it was not always set up as OTP made their intial arc of hooking up and eventually falling in love so much more special. I mean back then EW and LM had such amazing chemistry and sexual tension. I loved Victor/Victrola so much for it's Chair moments. You could see how much Blair trusted Chuck and seeing this pretty unlikable male slut/atempted rapist character as Chuck was originally set up as, soften so much in Blair's presence and how deeply he fell in love with her and his hurt and anger at her wanting Nate and them reuniting in the S1 finale and Blair relizeing her feelings for Chuck, only for him to hurt her, I was truely so invested and engaged in Chair and early S2 when Chuck was clearly head over heels in love with Blair but scared to ever invest or admit and watching Blair chase Chuck and her heartache at her love not being returned. GAH I used to love them so much.

I truely do not understand how the show had such an amazing unexpected love story in Bad Boy Chuck and upper east side Queen bitch Blair falling in love and being their awesome scheming, sexy selfs in S1/S2 to the awfullness that became of Chair in the last 3 seasons.

I loved Dan/Blair so much or at least in S4 and felt her was her OTP but I cannot ignore how great Chair was in the very begining and how much I loved them back then. Makes me sad for what became of them and esp Blair.

Even if I loathe them now, I do totally agree with this post. The very first Chair arc (back in season 1), where we saw Chuck fall in love with Blair and this whole side of his personality come to light, it was beautiful and then it did feel a little epic, even if I hate them being called that now - I hate this notion that just because lots of crazy shit has happened along the way and the couple are still together, they qualify as "epic". Season 1/2 Chair aren't epic simply because of the heartache along the way but I felt they actually emulated that vibe then. After season 2 the writers essentially repeated the S1/2 storyline every season and each time it got more horrific and the couple were proclaimed epic with more confidence.

It's quite sad really because some of the stuff that has happened in season 3, 4 and 5 does taint some of the stuff in season 1 and 2.

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Posted Sep 24, 2012 @ 5:12 AM

Feels like its been ages since last I wrote here. Hello everyone. Welcome toneofsurprise.

I am very exited for Season 6 too and even tho there were memorable moments in S5 and I adored Chuck (as usual), I want to forget the whole season. It was horrible and torturous more than ever. LOL. And it feels like; now we are taken back to the ending of 4x9.

I fell in love with Chuck and Blair from the very beginning and never fell out. I think S3 was an amazing season. It lacked somethings (CB hot scenes or them being at the background; for example) but regardless of them we got a full CB relationship with full of love and happiness and of course their struggling. I am forever bitter about them not showing us CB's fun summer, their honeymoon. Now its time to have that love and happiness and other struggles but more grown up and earned way.
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. So I have so much high-hopes about S6.

Whatever the status of their relationship in the season premier, I hope we get to see Chuck’s response in the casino. If Chuck and Blair are back together, I’d love to see flashbacks of their European adventures. Offscreenlandia is practically a GG main character, but it would be wonderful to see C&B reconnecting and rebuilding. And after the endless obstacles and games, I think the fans deserve an epic C&B reunion.

I agree with the posters who think this time C&B will be forever. There are many other storylines to resolve, most notably SB, that there won't be any time for their usual will they or won’t they drama.

I can’t wait for the C&B wedding however it is achieved. I’d love to see all their friends and family witness their special day, but I’ll take an European elopement as well. I am easy. The one thing I don’t want is a baby/pregnancy storyline. C&B are so young and I want them to enjoy being happy and madly in love, working on their careers, and ruling over the UES. Plenty of time for kids in 5-10 years.

On different note, I was in Nicaragua for vacation last week and stayed at the same surf resort as Connor Paolo(Eric VDW). He is a really nice guy, very smart and sweet. I played it cool and didn’t pester him for Revenge spoilers, but I did ask him if he was going to make an appearance on GG. Unfortunately, because of the Revenge production schedule, he won’t have time to make a guest appearance.


IA with you Amisha. And I don't want another baby SL for CB indeed (All blame on S5). But I really want to hear them talking about babies and maybe fortunately have a POV from Blair (towards her horribleness in S5) this time. They wasted so much potential in S5, I hope they don't in last 10 episodes.

Its amazing that you met Connor. Thanks for letting us know. I love him and want Eric back; but of course his schedule won't let him be in last season even for 1 episode. I loved Chuck and Eric bonding and I hope they wouldn't make them strangers. Chuck never judged Eric (as well as anyone) and they were great brothers. So it would have been amazing while Chuck and Eric were going down in late S4 they would have bonded again, you know. Also would have been lovely to have more Blair&Eric scenes too.

Anyway, as for Chuck and Blair; I really want to see them work together. On everything and being there for each other mutually. They had this dynamic in S3 and I really want it back. Years after years they showed how nobody else for each other but them. And I missed them so much in a relationship. So, I am very hopeful for Season 6, that its gonna be "Season of Love" again.

Edited by LadyGuGu, Sep 24, 2012 @ 5:17 AM.


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Posted Oct 9, 2012 @ 2:50 PM

Taking this from the 6.1 thread...

Dan was totally right in what he said about Blair and Chuck. They are just a bunch of excuses. How many seasons have they been trying to get their shit together? This show tries to shock you, but the most shocking thing they could do is have Blair and Chuck end for good. Serena and Blair should go off into the sunset together and be done with all of those boys.


I don't think Chuck and Blair's reasons for not being together are supposed to show some inherent flaw in Chuck and Blair as a couple, but rather it's the writers saving their happy ending for the end of the show, like Josh Schwartz, Stephanie Savage, and even Josh Safran have all alluded to at one point or another. If the tables were turned and Blair actually was in love with Nate, Dan, whoever, I think the result would be the same--obstacle after obstacle until the very end.

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Posted Oct 9, 2012 @ 6:57 PM

I don't think Chuck and Blair's reasons for not being together are supposed to show some inherent flaw in Chuck and Blair as a couple, but rather it's the writers saving their happy ending for the end of the show, like Josh Schwartz, Stephanie Savage, and even Josh Safran have all alluded to at one point or another. If the tables were turned and Blair actually was in love with Nate, Dan, whoever, I think the result would be the same--obstacle after obstacle until the very end.


While I do think that it's the writers' intentions to keep CB apart until the end, IMO that doesn't change the fact that CB's reasons for not being together illustrate a giant flaw in their relationship. I think it's irrelevant whether the writers want to keep them apart when the excuses CB are using, the ones that we as the audience are actually shown (I.e. not fanwanking that the writers might be trying to keep them apart) certainly do absolutely no favors to the CB dynamic and making it seem believable that these two could make it long-term.

Their current excuse (and the one that they've been using for a while now) is absolutely pathetic, and I (like Dan - who was perhaps providing a meta from the writers) saw right through it. How do CB except to function as a long-term couple if they can't sort through their own personal issues while they're together? What? Are they just going to go on a break whenever one of them has something they need to deal with? Don't healthy couples who love and support one another try and work through issues together as a team? Their whole "pact" now is just pathetic, perhaps even more pathetic than Blair's pact with God last season which she admitted herself in 5x13 was more an excuse not to be with Chuck. I know they both have professional issues to deal with? But why does that mean Blair has to wear a ring around her neck instead of on her finger? Why does that mean they can't have sex or act like a normal long-distance relationship? Why are they stil coming up with stupid excuses not to be together when they could be? It's easy to say they are because the writers dont want them together yet, but still, to me at least that doesn't change the fact that those excuses make it look like an actual Chair long-term relationship is nothing but a fantasy with no substance to actually make it happen.

It's completely different to Nate and Dan IMO. Both Nair and Dair had obstacles (mainly Blair's inability to completely let go of Chuck and the subsequent insecurity that brought to Nate and Dan), but that didn't change the fact that when Nate and Dan wanted to be with Blair they jumped at it as soon as they had the chance. Like Dan said last night "[he] wanted to be with [her] everyday". So if Chuck really wants to be with Blair, then why isn't he? Why does he keep feeding her excuses about her being too distracting? If he really loves her that much why doesn't he put her first and be with her and then worry about Bart and his Empire from there?

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Posted Oct 12, 2012 @ 6:37 PM

I stopped watching the show after series 2, so a LOT of the high-octane brain-meltiness has passed me harmlessly by. I got sucked in by a despairing review and have only just caught up with all the shenanigans.

I thoroughly enjoyed Chuck and Blair in series 1, and would have loved the idea of having these two power-hungry nutjobs conspire with each other, play increasingly twisted and ludicrous games and occasionally have sex. Keep it playful, keep it equitable, and you won't hear me complaining about sick, wrong or twisted.

Do NOT, however, take two of your best characters, strip them systematically of their strength and wit and tell me that this is romance. Valmont and the Marquise were FINE as touchstones for the characters. Or Addison DeWitt and Margo Channing.

Well, I mean, LM's so good that Blair could lunge into anything from Medea to The Bride, but I'd like Chuck to be a little-used weapon, showing up like Puss in Boots in purple velvet to fix things and stir some shit and goose Dan and blow Nate on his way out. And then he and Blair could have sex. This Catharine and Heathcliff thing is rote and BORING. Also not romantic.

Ahem. That said, I am appalled by how effective I still find EW and LM's physical chemistry. Good Lord, those two.

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Posted Oct 22, 2012 @ 2:51 PM

While I do think that it's the writers' intentions to keep CB apart until the end, IMO that doesn't change the fact that CB's reasons for not being together illustrate a giant flaw in their relationship. I think it's irrelevant whether the writers want to keep them apart when the excuses CB are using, the ones that we as the audience are actually shown (I.e. not fanwanking that the writers might be trying to keep them apart) certainly do absolutely no favors to the CB dynamic and making it seem believable that these two could make it long-term.

Their current excuse (and the one that they've been using for a while now) is absolutely pathetic, and I (like Dan - who was perhaps providing a meta from the writers) saw right through it. How do CB except to function as a long-term couple if they can't sort through their own personal issues while they're together? What? Are they just going to go on a break whenever one of them has something they need to deal with? Don't healthy couples who love and support one another try and work through issues together as a team? Their whole "pact" now is just pathetic, perhaps even more pathetic than Blair's pact with God last season which she admitted herself in 5x13 was more an excuse not to be with Chuck. I know they both have professional issues to deal with? But why does that mean Blair has to wear a ring around her neck instead of on her finger? Why does that mean they can't have sex or act like a normal long-distance relationship? Why are they stil coming up with stupid excuses not to be together when they could be? It's easy to say they are because the writers dont want them together yet, but still, to me at least that doesn't change the fact that those excuses make it look like an actual Chair long-term relationship is nothing but a fantasy with no substance to actually make it happen.

It's completely different to Nate and Dan IMO. Both Nair and Dair had obstacles (mainly Blair's inability to completely let go of Chuck and the subsequent insecurity that brought to Nate and Dan), but that didn't change the fact that when Nate and Dan wanted to be with Blair they jumped at it as soon as they had the chance. Like Dan said last night "[he] wanted to be with [her] everyday". So if Chuck really wants to be with Blair, then why isn't he? Why does he keep feeding her excuses about her being too distracting? If he really loves her that much why doesn't he put her first and be with her and then worry about Bart and his Empire from there?



I believe that they'll make it long-term. For every time Chuck and Blair have broken up or decided not to be together for one reason or another, there's another instance of them reuniting and/or realizing that they love each other above all else. IMO, the timing just hasn't been right quite yet. We were introduced to Chuck and Blair as characters in high school and at the very root of Gossip Girl, I think the show is portraying the growth of this group of friends and how they navigate life while of course being a part of, "the scandalous lives of Manhattan's elite."

None of either Chuck or Blair's other romantic relationships lead to me to believe that they would be happy or fulfilled in them, therefore obviously not making it long-term. I don't think it matters what Dan says to Blair RE: supposedly loving her conditionally and wanted to be with her everyday because that doesn't change the fact that Blair never loved Dan. Blair was using her relationship with Dan as a distraction from her love for Chuck and desire to be with him, just like she did with Louis and the pact with God.

I mentioned this in the 6.02 episode thread, but I don't think the current pact is about not being able to work out their personal/professional issues while they're together. I think it's much more about Chuck trying to keep Blair safe as he attempts to take down Bart, who is known for having nefarious allies and enemies and obviously Bart has some weird disdain for Blair. Also, Blair has wanted to be a "powerful woman" on her own since Season Four and wanting to feel like she's the best person she can be before making this commitment to Chuck is totally understandable to me. They've been through so much over the years that I wouldn't expect them to rush back into the same place they were in when they were a couple in Season Three because they're concerned about making the same mistakes again and hurting each other in the process. Right now, Chuck is involved in a dangerous blackmail scheme and Blair is revamping an entire company. To them, Bart will soon be out of the equation (I think Chuck is trying to imprison Bart), and Blair will be running EWD rather than starting from scratch. These things are very different from day-to-day business stress.

Also, it bears mentioning that CB were a solid couple in Season Three who dealt with numerous problems together before breaking up at the end of the season. They did not need to "go on a break whenever one of them had something they needed to deal with."

My comment about how if Blair was in love with Nate or Dan, it would be a similar situation wasn't meant to compare those previous relationships, but to say if we swapped out Chuck completely/he didn't exist on GG and Blair actually loved either Nate or Dan, I would expect ridiculous obstacles for them as an endgame couple as well.