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Posted Mar 17, 2013 @ 3:50 PM

Darkseid, damn.

It's always interesting to see someone like Luthor work with the heroes because, otherwise, the Earth is going to get blow'd up, and that's bad for business.

Another thought: I thought Wendy and Marvin were siblings.


Ha, that one threw me too. The versions that were introduced in the Teen Titans comic in 2006 were indeed twins, so I just assumed that these version were too. The original versions from the old Super Friends cartoons, however, were not related (Marvin, interestingly enough, was actually the son of Diana Prince aka the nurse whose name Wonder Woman copied for her secret identity).
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Posted Mar 17, 2013 @ 9:26 PM

Anyway, since Psycho Pirate never appeared, or to the best of my knowledge, was ever even hinted at in YJ, and as DiDio used the conjunction "or" instead of "and," I believe we can consider the criteria for a bona fide Crisis sufficiently met.

Psycho-Pirate did appear in the tie-in comics, but it was long before the Reach came into the picture.
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Posted Mar 18, 2013 @ 8:45 AM

It's too bad they can't figure out how to make shows like this inexpensively enough to keep them going for long runs, even if it were to be in a pay as you consume model like through iTunes. Sadly, quality like this costs a lot of money, and they needed a lot of revenue to pay for it.

By the way, I have a question. When they play the quick promo that has the "And now, more Young Justice" voice-over there is one that has a quick shot of a bunch of villains, including the Joker.

Did the Joker ever appear in an episode of this show?
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Posted Mar 18, 2013 @ 11:44 AM

What was the point in him being on YJ in the first place, aside from acting as the Justice League's lawyer?


Most of the characters here were window dressing just like JLU for many of the characters on there. At least he did have a purpose in the end.
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Posted Mar 18, 2013 @ 2:08 PM

I thought the final scene with Darkseid was weird. I can't see him welcoming anyone as an equal. In fact that is the downfall of any organization like the Light composed of super powerful villains. Just about all super villains have massive egos and always have an agenda of either destroying everything or conquering it for themselves. They may work together for brief periods but only until the right moment when they stab everyone in the back and seize control. Only an idiot would believe everyone else weren't biding their time to make their own move. That would engender serious.... trust issues. Even developing an overarching strategy in such an organization would be problematic.
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Posted Mar 18, 2013 @ 2:43 PM

Did the Joker ever appear in an episode of this show?


I'm pretty sure he showed up in a couple of the episodes in the first season. I remember not liking how the VA was playing him; just like I couldn't stand how Witch Boy, was so whiny and with an American accent, whereas, he had an English on in the other show.

I thought the final scene with Darkseid was weird. I can't see him welcoming anyone as an equal.


He was probably letting Savage think he was welcoming him.
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Posted Mar 18, 2013 @ 2:44 PM

Did the Joker ever appear in an episode of this show?


Voiced by Brent Spiner as a member of the Injustice League in season 1.
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Posted Mar 18, 2013 @ 11:56 PM

Damn, real sad it's over.

I'm pretty certain if we got a season 3 Wally would be back. They pulled a similar stunt in the comics where Wally was essentially pulled out of reality but he used his love for his girlfriend as a life line to allow him to come back. I would imagine they'd have pull done it similarly and include the brief jaunt into the future. That would probably have served as the warning of the New Gods getting involved.

I still don't understand why CN canceled the show. Why do they care if the toys are selling, shouldn't that just be WB's concern (in this partnership)? I would think they'd just care about ratings.
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Posted Mar 19, 2013 @ 12:11 AM

If they outright said that the show was cancelled because it wasn't hitting goals in target demographics, would that make sense to you?
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Posted Mar 19, 2013 @ 12:44 AM

I'm pretty certain if we got a season 3 Wally would be back. They pulled a similar stunt in the comics where Wally was essentially pulled out of reality but he used his love for his girlfriend as a life line to allow him to come back.


They also did a similar thing in the Teen Titans comics (only it was Bart Kid Flash). They hinted at another time jump in Season 3 and we know from multiple story lines that Flashes can travel through time when they tap into the Speed Force so I was thinking that Wally would get spit out in the not too distant future and have to deal with all the changes that had happened since everyone thinks he's dead. Could be just wishful thinking, or it could be I read too many comics.

Besides, dead is never really dead in TV.

Edited by maybeitsme, Mar 19, 2013 @ 12:45 AM.

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Posted Mar 19, 2013 @ 12:54 AM

They hinted at another time jump in Season 3 and we know from multiple story lines that Flashes can travel through time when they tap into the Speed Force so I was thinking that Wally would get spit out in the not too distant future and have to deal with all the changes that had happened since everyone thinks he's dead.


Sounds about right, the only reason I could see them not going that direction is that it might be a little too close to what Original Roy went through after he was thawed out. But Wally isn't a dick, so he'd probably end up handling it better.
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Posted Mar 19, 2013 @ 8:50 AM

I still don't understand why CN canceled the show. Why do they care if the toys are selling, shouldn't that just be WB's concern (in this partnership)? I would think they'd just care about ratings.

If toys were the only reason, which they probably aren't, the explanation is as follows:

Young Justice costs $X to produce, and therefore Warner Brothers and DC need $1.5X revenue to pay for all of the overhead and make a decent profit on the show. If toys covered a portion of that $1.5X, WB would need to ask Cartoon Network to pay not only the price it already pays for the show, but also the amount for the missing toy sales.

Because WB still needs $1.5X to make Young Justice.

All other things being equal, CN is probably going to say no when a production company asks them to pick up the slack for missing merchandise sales and essentially cancels it, by not agreeing to pay more for it.

And by the way, I am not 100% sure about this financial model. I really don't know if CN gets some sort of cut from the merchandise sales. I am assuming that even if they do, it wouldn't be more than a small percentage, and therefore the big financial driver for CN would be related to the price WB asks them to pay for it.
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Posted Mar 19, 2013 @ 12:36 PM

Sigh, another failing of the capitalist model. I'm sure in a socialist paradise the State would happily fund any and all anime.
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Posted Mar 20, 2013 @ 3:34 PM

Heh. Or in the cartoon universe, eccentric billionaires and sketchy organizations with unclear motives would fund our cartoons for us. None of this supply and demand crap getting in the way.

You will demand what we supply,.. or else.
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Posted Mar 22, 2013 @ 11:41 PM

I think one of the things I'll miss most about this show is posting the previews for new episodes. At least I can post other Young Justice related stuff, like the extra dialogue from Endgame that was cut for time. We get a nice conversation between Wally and Bart, among other things. We also find out where the runaways not named Virgil went when they "broke up" so to speak, which kind of makes them quitting off-screen a little easier to swallow...but only a little.

Greg Weisman also posted some pitches he and Brandon Vietti have made for other DC properties on Ask Greg, including a direct to DVD movie and a spin-off featuring Arsenal and the Arrow family. AN ARSENAL AND ARROW FAMILY SHOW. Can you imagine how awesome that could have been?! GODDAMN YOU, CARTOON NETWORK! WHY CAN'T WE EVER HAVE NICE THINGS?!!!

Also, a little comic that pretty much sums up season one...because I thought it was funny. :D
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Posted Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:58 AM

I think one of the things I'll miss most about this show is posting the previews for new episodes. At least I can post other Young Justice related stuff, like the extra dialogue from Endgame that was cut for time. We get a nice conversation between Wally and Bart, among other things. We also find out where the runaways not named Virgil went when they "broke up" so to speak, which kind of makes them quitting off-screen a little easier to swallow...but only a little.

Greg Weisman also posted some pitches he and Brandon Vietti have made for other DC properties on Ask Greg, including a direct to DVD movie and a spin-off featuring Arsenal and the Arrow family. AN ARSENAL AND ARROW FAMILY SHOW. Can you imagine how awesome that could have been?! GODDAMN YOU, CARTOON NETWORK! WHY CAN'T WE EVER HAVE NICE THINGS?!!!

Also, a little comic that pretty much sums up season one...because I thought it was funny. :D


With Arrow being a hit they should really think about that Arrow family movie.
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Posted Mar 25, 2013 @ 1:36 PM

I loved-loved-LOVED that little cartoon; it was awesome. :D
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Posted Mar 26, 2013 @ 4:24 PM

With Arrow being a hit they should really think about that Arrow family movie.

You’d think Cartoon Network would jump on the Green Arrow bandwagon asap because of that show. Arsenal alone could hold his own series, imo...though I doubt it would be a kid’s show. Apologies in advance:

Arsenal’s Rap (based off Natalie Portman's Rap)

G. Gordon Godfrey: We're sitting here today with Young Justice star, Arsenal.
Arsenal: Hey.
G. Gordon Godfrey: So Arsenal, what's a day in the life of Roy Harper like?
Arsenal: Do you really wanna know?
G. Gordon Godfrey: Please, tell us.

I’m not Speedy motherfucker and I’m back from a curbin’
Doin 120 gettin high while I'm swervin’
Nightwing: Damn Arsenal, you a crazy prick
Arsenal: Yo shut the fuck up, you dumbass Dick!
I’ll put an arrow in your socket like a thread through a needle
Pull up on War World and smack the shit outta Black Beetle
Team: What you want Arsenal? Arsenal: To drink and fight!
Team: What you need Arsenal? Arsenal: Revenge on The Light!
Don't test me when I'm crazy off that Cadmus glue
They put me under ice and chopped my arm in two
Leave you steamin’, I got my own schemin’
Fuck you, Red! It's MY name Cheshire’s screamin!

G. Gordon Godfrey: I'm sorry Roy, are we to believe that you condone crime-fighting while intoxicated?
Arsenal: I never said I was a role model.
G. Gordon Godfrey: But what about the kids that look up to you? Do you have a message for them?

All the kids lookin’ up to me can eat my shit
It's Harper motherfuckers, I’ll blow you to bits
Cut your throat and shove a grenade down the hole
Pod me once, I cry; pod me twice, you die
And to my crew, you know I'm talkin’ to you
The runaways: We love you Arsenal! Arsenal: I wanna fuck you too!
(R!) Is for Roy! (R!) Is for Rookie!
I'll bomb your LexCorp labs for fun, so don't push me! Hahaha...!

G. Gordon Godfrey: I'm surprised...all this from Green Arrow’s former sidekick?
Arsenal: Well, there's a lot you may not know about me.
G. Gordon Godfrey: Really, such as?

When I was with Arrow, I shot up everyday
I beat up every thug, they never got away
I got a rocket launcher, you got a bunch of goons
I’ll wrap your arm with explosives and blow it OFF!
Lex Luthor: Arsenal, you are a badass kid.
Arsenal: Hell yeah!
Lex Luthor: And I'll always pay for your prosthetics when we chop your limbs in two
Arsenal: What!?
Lex Luthor: And as for the drug use, well I can vouch for that; my desk is scared of you, Rooooooy!

G. Gordon Godfrey: Okie doke...just one final question. If you could steal a smooch from any girl on the team, who would it--*BOOM*
Arsenal: No more questions.
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Posted Mar 31, 2013 @ 1:19 AM

Very nice, Apathy.

I'm looking to get sketches of show-exclusive characters. Today, I got the Reach Ambassador.
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Posted Mar 31, 2013 @ 2:42 PM

Greg Weisman also posted some pitches he and Brandon Vietti have made for other DC properties on Ask Greg, including a direct to DVD movie and a spin-off featuring Arsenal and the Arrow family. AN ARSENAL AND ARROW FAMILY SHOW. Can you imagine how awesome that could have been?! GODDAMN YOU, CARTOON NETWORK! WHY CAN'T WE EVER HAVE NICE THINGS?!!!


Gods, we would have watched the hell out of that. Didn't think I could get anymore sad than I already was. I was clearly wrong.
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Posted Apr 2, 2013 @ 1:09 PM

I would have loved to have seen an Arrow Family series! Something different from the usual. Using the Earth-16 versions of the characters, they'd have plenty to work with, not to mention a built in audience from YJ.

I was really intrigued about a YJ meeting Scooby Doo movie! I guess that one will be on the Shelf of Utopia next to the lost "Static Shock" episode in which Static meets up with Robin & the "Teen Titans".

Darn it, we deserve such cool things! Here's hoping a YJ DTV will come down the pike eventually.
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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 4:24 PM

I got a new YJ-themed sketch: Tye Longshadow.

Edited by Lantern7, Apr 9, 2013 @ 7:23 PM.

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Posted Jul 31, 2013 @ 8:05 PM

Well, I can't think of anywhere else more appropriate to talk about the new DCAU movie Flashpoint Paradox, considering they use the Young Justice character designs and apparent universe to set the movie in. So, spoiler free opinions of mine are HOLY CRAP YOU GUYS THIS WAS AWESOME!!

 

Seriously, this was a hardcore badass movie! I'm not a comic book reader so this was a perfect way to be introduced to this storyline--by the way, is the comic book as good as this? If so I got to track it down!

 

I most of all loved how completely PG-13 it all was. I mean semi-spoiler alert, theres a lot of blood in this flick.

 

Anybody else see Flashpoint Paradox?


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Posted Jul 31, 2013 @ 10:37 PM

Haven't seen it but did notice someone that looked like an adult Kid Flash beating up on the Flash.


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Posted Jul 31, 2013 @ 10:48 PM

That was probably Reverse Flash. And Flashpoint was a pain as an "event" because it led to the umpteenth rebooting of the DCU.

 

More on-topic: Sketch of Beast Boy I got a few months ago. Still looking to get show-exclusive characters, though the only YJ reference I've been carrying around has been Aqualad.


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Posted Sep 3, 2013 @ 12:31 PM

I was browsing through AskGreg recently and found a couple of responses about YJ that caught my attention, so I thought I'd share them here. 

 

Anonymous writes...

Out of the team members, who is Wonder Girl closest with?
 
Greg responds...
Of the boys, Robin. Otherwise, she's probably closest to Batgirl. SBFF, and all that. ;)

 

Apparently Greg Weisman is a fan of the Super Best Friends Forever shorts. :)

 

Robin's Girl writes...

Sorry if this is a trivial question, but I have been dying to know: what exactly is a chicken whizee?
 
Greg responds...
Honestly, you don't want to know.
Just enjoy the taste sensation and don't ask too many questions about the recipe.

 

Ha!

 

Greg also addresses a complaint about the episode "Summit" (which ITA with, of course)...though I'm not too happy with the answer.

 

Anonymous writes...

"Summit" was one of my favorite episodes of the series, but one thing I could not understand was how Beast Boy was able to make jokes about the plan and how little anger against Nightwing, Kaldur, and Artemis there was. How was the Team capable of so easily overlooking:
 
1. That Nightwing, Artemis, and Kaldur let them believe that a friend of theirs was dead.
2. That Kaldur destroyed what for some was their only home.
3. That Kaldur and Artemis kidnapped and allowed the Reach to torture three members(all of them children)?
 
Greg responds...
1. You saw a sample of their attitude when Lagoon Boy was told.
2. Big picture, please.
3. Ditto.
 
Look, I'm not saying there aren't issues. But everything is relative when fighting a WAR. With more episodes and/or comics, we would have had more space to deal with the fallout. But ultimately, the Team was more glad that Artemis was alive than they were angry about being fooled. Perspective.

 

Yeah...just like the Young Justice video game, I’m not buying it. First of all, I don’t understand his notion that seeing Lagoon Boy’s reaction to the plan means we don’t need to see everyone else’s reactions, like they don’t even matter. And even if I accepted that it’s not like La’gaan stayed angry over it as far as I can tell. Second, and maybe it’s because I’m not a superhero, but if I found out my friends blew up my house and/or faked their own deaths I would be pissed, no matter what the “big picture” was. I really don’t think showing some fallout in that episode or the next would have hurt them any. Hell, I could’ve even settled for one of them saying, “Don’t think we’re not still ticked off at you just because your plan actually worked!” or just any sign that someone was being held accountable. It’s not that hard! And yes, over five months since the show ended and I’m still bitter about this. I should probably get a life. :P

 


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Posted Sep 3, 2013 @ 3:44 PM

. Second, and maybe it’s because I’m not a superhero, but if I found out my friends blew up my house and/or faked their own deaths I would be pissed, no matter what the “big picture” was. I really don’t think showing some fallout in that episode or the next would have hurt them any. Hell, I could’ve even settled for one of them saying, “Don’t think we’re not still ticked off at you just because your plan actually worked!” or just any sign that someone was being held accountable. It’s not that hard! And yes, over five months since the show ended and I’m still bitter about this. I should probably get a life. :P

 

You're not the only one. And I think it's ironic that the show built up the drama in "Depths" ("we may never be forgiven for this") and everyone besides the one person that wasn't completely on-board with the plan got exactly what they wanted. Dick got to stop the Light's plan (sort of) and escape the blame for everything that happened. Kaldur got welcomed back with open arms and made team leader again. (A team in which he kidnapped three of its members for torture.) And Artemis got to return to the hero life like she wanted now that there was nothing holding her back from doing so. 

 

And no matter the situation, willingly kidnapping kids for torture is something you can't just overlook. I mean, I don't think Jaime's parents would be cool with the idea that their son was tortured simply because the people they were told would help and look out for their son allowed it to happen because they thought it was necessary.


Edited by Cad2686, Sep 3, 2013 @ 3:45 PM.

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Posted Dec 2, 2013 @ 11:08 PM

You're not the only one. And I think it's ironic that the show built up the drama in "Depths" ("we may never be forgiven for this") and everyone besides the one person that wasn't completely on-board with the plan got exactly what they wanted. Dick got to stop the Light's plan (sort of) and escape the blame for everything that happened. Kaldur got welcomed back with open arms and made team leader again. (A team in which he kidnapped three of its members for torture.) And Artemis got to return to the hero life like she wanted now that there was nothing holding her back from doing so.

 

Not to mention Miss Martian seems to get back with Superboy no problem, even after tampering with his mind (seriously, why did the show even bring that up if they weren't going to do anything with it?) then rubbing her relationship with La'gaan in his face, and her lobotomizing several others (one of them being in front of Batman and Martian Manhunter) is never brought up again. M'gaan wasn't part of the plan, but it still pisses me off that despite all of this, apparently she and the other three are still liked by everyone on the team and the Justice League, even though they really shouldn't be. In the end, I think the writers liked these characters and the DC mythos way too much to let them suffer any real consequences.

 

But enough about that--the YJ: Legacy video game is out, and if it sells really well the game company might make season three as a sequel game.

 

There's also a live-action YJ series in development for The CW. On one hand, I'm pretty excited we're getting another Young Justice show, even if it's not animated. On the other hand...it's The CW. You just know they're gonna dial up the teenage romance stuff up to fifty. Like there wasn't enough of it in the cartoon.


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