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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 7:45 PM

New user! First post! Only so I could find people to talk about the amazingness that is this show, because I cannot for the life of me convince ANY of my friends that this show is worth watching. Of course, if it had a more "adult" title, like, I don't know, um, Revenge?, people might be more okay with it. As it stands, I am out in the cold here. Other titles-- "Tween Peaks"? "A-Game"?

HMC is beautiful, but I didn't catch people fat-shaming her, just saying that she's too, er, curvy to be the Black Swan. But didn't we learn our lesson with MonA? Don't try and figure this out based on body type. There's no point. I also refuse to believe that Ella is evil, because she reminds me of my super-awesome mom, and I think I was just about as lame as Aria when I was that age (and I too dressed like a crazy person).

Thoughts/theories: Jackie's the Swan, Lucas knocked Emily over in the greenhouse, someone evil that we don't yet know pulled the A stunts while MonA was riding horseys. I desperately want to know who killed Ali, but I'm worried that MK doesn't care as much as I do. I do, however, hope she's dead and not just faking. I cannot fathom why anyone would kill Maya, because who cares? But the character is much more interesting dead than alive, so... hurray? I sort of hope is the same killer. It would be AMAZING if they pulled in some Twin Peaks-style metaphysical mumbo-jumbo, but I think I'm the only one who would enjoy that.

What's that you say? You've never seen Twin Peaks? Well, it would be a lovely way for you to pass the time until June. One of my fantasies that will never happen is that I will write an entire thesis on Twin Peaks/PLL, and then someone will hand me a Ph.D. and a paycheck. Sigh.

TP is PLL's grand-daddy in all the best ways. Missing, sexually precocious psycho-princess? Check. Cryptic notes and jewelry as clues? Check. Murdered girl appearing in extended surrealist dream sequences? Check. Dark-haired cousin played by the same actress as dead girl? Got that too. The creepy little kid/grandmother scene in the doll hospital? Lifted almost directly from TP, though the scenes resolve differently. Weird lonely resort guy is played an agoraphobic botanist, secret diaries abound, the owls are not what they seem (remember that USB drive? How can that NOT be a reference?). Father figures are almost universally evil and eternally engaged in shady business. Everyone sleeps with everyone all the time. Oh yeah, and Twin Peaks also only has one restaurant.

And maybe the showrunners don't mean to engage these issues directly, but I think Jacob does a good job of picking them apart. Someone else said above that the original storytellers didn't mean to engage with archetypes, but did. That's the nature of narrative: it picks up universal truths unwittingly, because what other stories are there to tell?

Another fantasy is that I have coffee with Jacob and we discuss exactly what story these shows- PLL, Twin Peaks and even The Killing- tell, and why we feel the need to tell it over and over again. If you get them down to brass tacks, it's all about young girls at the cusp of budding sexuality using it to their advantage, getting in over their head and eventually getting killed. In The Killing and Twin Peaks, it's pretty much assumed that the killer is a man who had a sexual interest in the murdered girl. It's sort of why PLL is, weirdly, smarter than the Killing, a show with a title I can bear to say in public, aired under the auspices of a "serious" television network. But in PLL, gender dynamics are up in the air- was Ali murdered because she was overly sexual and/or pregnant (oh, the possibilities of page 5!)? Or was she murdered because she was a raging sociopath who destroyed everything she touched? Is her story psycho-sexual drama, or just drama?

And that's why it's great to have Mona as the girls' harasser- we know that the girls are being harassed, are made to be less powerful based on reasons that are not purely gendered. It's not a man exerting power over them (I think A+ is probably female), it's Mona. All of whom live among adults of both genders who want to shove them into the Ophelia box, until Spencer is almost killed. And this is why Spencer manages to both be the craziest and most in-touch of all the characters on the show: her entire family is somehow involved with Ali's disappearance, from the extortion to Ian to the PI, and yet they spent the entire first season gas-lighting her until she believed she was crazy. But, as it turns out, she was freaking right- which only made her crazier. Given her environment, madness is a natural and well-reasoned response. It might also be the only reason she's alive. Spencer is Audrey Horne on crack, I can't wait until she goes undercover at her dad's secret Canadian casino, or whatever nonsense S03 has in store.

Sorry for the novel, but I've been stewing about this episode while TWoP approved me. The broader themes have been bugging me for even longer, I am a dog with a bone when it comes to interpretation. Yeah, I was an English major. How could you tell?
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 9:34 PM

TP is PLL's grand-daddy in all the best ways


In Season 1, there was an FBI agent in town to investigate the murder but she left when it appeared to be solved (the first time when Toby did it). Her name was Agent Cooper. And one of the last things she said was how much she would miss the food in that town. So, they definitely are in on that comparison.

It's sort of why PLL is, weirdly, smarter than the Killing, a show with a title I can bear to say in public, aired under the auspices of a "serious" television network. But in PLL, gender dynamics are up in the air- was Ali murdered because she was overly sexual and/or pregnant (oh, the possibilities of page 5!)? Or was she murdered because she was a raging sociopath who destroyed everything she touched? Is her story psycho-sexual drama, or just drama?


PLL, for its massive flaws (flaws you could see from space, flaws that dwarf the Great Wall of China), is also smarter than The Killing because Ali is a real person to us. She is a sociopath and/or victim but she is a person. We know her almost as well as we know the Liars. We didn't need Rosie Larson flashbacks but she was never really a real person so it was hard to care as much.
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 9:45 PM

Yeah, I was an English major. How could you tell?


This show is an English major's candy crack. Last season had me re-reading The Great Gatsby , and this season was all about Lolita. I can't wait to see which book they pick as the running theme next season. Toss in other literary and movie references, and there's a lot to keep me happily picking away at episodes.

It's not a man exerting power over them (I think A+ is probably female), it's Mona.


I haven't read the books, but I've always regarded the title of the show as involving far more than our core group of PLLs. Obviously the people on this show are outright gorgeous anyway, but PLLism is far more pervasive than that, which has always led to me thinking A+ is female. It's such an awesome thing too, in its way; the power Ali had as a PLL was like a supernova with everyone blinded in her wake. I love seeing how the other characters develop as they go about similar discoveries of self. I hope A+ is so ridiculously amazing and meta and chock full of toffee-flavored adrenaline.

Edited by ardentshine, Mar 28, 2012 @ 9:46 PM.

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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 10:23 PM

HMC was a stick on the first season of Charmed. I remember when she would wear skirts my mother would always say "I worry about her, that is not a healthy weight."
And yeah, she does have a thyroid problem. And even without that, carrying three babies isn't going to leave you very slim, unless you are a genetic lotto win or incredibly motivated.

HMC is beautiful, but I didn't catch people fat-shaming her,

I've heard some pretty nasty things.

I also refuse to believe that Ella is evil, because she reminds me of my super-awesome mom, and I think I was just about as lame as Aria when I was that age (and I too dressed like a crazy person).

The main reason I am 100% positive that none of the parents are involved WITH A (I'm sure the Hastings are involved with the murder) is because, as my friend Skye often says, if parents are involved with A, the show goes from deliciously, awesomely creepy to REALLY WEIRD, and not in a good way.

In fact, I think they've done a good job casting the families. Mike looks a bit like Byron. There's something about Mama and Papa Hastings that I see in Spencer. Melissa and Spencer are believable as sisters. Hanna and her mom don't look alike, but they're both really pretty (which is genetic!) and I can see her getting her hair from her dad. And Emily looks a bit like her dad. Ali and new recipe Jason definitely look like siblings.

I'm always saying this. Mainly that Melissa looks ridiculously like her mother.

Edited by Loverly Emma, Mar 28, 2012 @ 10:34 PM.

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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 11:15 PM

Original Jason, oddly enough looks much more like a Hastings.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 9:30 AM

In fact, I think they've done a good job casting the families. Mike looks a bit like Byron. There's something about Mama and Papa Hastings that I see in Spencer. Melissa and Spencer are believable as sisters. Hanna and her mom don't look alike, but they're both really pretty (which is genetic!) and I can see her getting her hair from her dad. And Emily looks a bit like her dad. Ali and new recipe Jason definitely look like siblings.

And Spencer and New Jason have the same chin.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 9:41 AM

And Spencer and New Jason have the same chin.

I wondered why Jason was suddenly super-hot. I totally did not catch that they replaced Jason.

Ali, Spencer and Jason all have the same chin. Clefty. Good for keeping secrets.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 11:41 AM

Ali, Spencer and Jason all have the same chin. Clefty. Good for keeping secrets.

That's why their chins are so big. They're full of secrets...
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 12:02 PM

Was it ever explained how the PLL knew that Jenna was the one who gave page 5 to the police? Was that in the news coverage? "Blind high school student and former stepbrother molester found the incriminating Braille-less sheet of paper and had her victim submit it to the police department."

If Jenna is driving around town in a convertible and showing up to the ball, I guess that means now it's common knowledge that she's no longer blind?
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 12:50 PM

Was it ever explained how the PLL knew that Jenna was the one who gave page 5 to the police? Was that in the news coverage? "Blind high school student and former stepbrother molester found the incriminating Braille-less sheet of paper and had her victim submit it to the police department."


Spencer said her mom knows the prosecutor and they told her that Jenna was the one that turned in page 5.

With Jenna driving around town, I'm going to fanwank that she took a bus/cab to another town, rented a car or had one waiting for her and drove around that town to find her mystery person.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 4:44 PM

Spencer said her mom knows the prosecutor and they told her that Jenna was the one that turned in page 5.


Spencer better be getting ready to grill her boyfriend Toby, because he seems to have more answers than anyone right now. He read Page 5 when Jenna showed it to him, and he is all mixed up with Dr. Sullivan.
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Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 5:03 PM

New user! First post! Only so I could find people to talk about the amazingness that is this show, because I cannot for the life of me convince ANY of my friends that this show is worth watching. Of course, if it had a more "adult" title, like, I don't know, um, Revenge?, people might be more okay with it. As it stands, I am out in the cold here. Other titles-- "Tween Peaks"? "A-Game"?


I feel your pain! PLL might be one of my favorite tv shows of all time (right next to HBO big boys), but the name just kills any chance I might have to convince people around me to watch it, save a couple of girlfriends who started to watch the same time as I did.

I personally think the name is just awful in on itself. Heck, even "Gorgeous young deceivers" is better(a poster's joke about their future"new" take on PLL). Anything is better! I totally agree a more "adult" name could only have helped the show.

Even though it's far from flawless, I think PLL is a lot better than most shows out there and it deserved to be promoted in a better way, I think. I mean the pictures with the four girls wearing pretty dresses are cute and all, but I'd kill for a well made trailer.

Edited by brunax5, Mar 30, 2012 @ 5:09 PM.

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Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 7:49 PM

Even though it's far from flawless, I think PLL is a lot better than most shows out there and it deserved to be promoted in a better way, I think. I mean the pictures with the four girls wearing pretty dresses are cute and all, but I'd kill for a well made trailer.

This so much. Really, any other name would be better. Even I, a girl of 15, didn't watch it at the beginning because of the title. It sounded too girly and gossipy for me. It's when I read the premise that I really thought "this could be good." I'm a sucker for murder mysteries, so Alison's story grabbed my attention. If they focused more on that, especially in the promos, it could get them quite a few more viewers.

ETA: Marlene King tweeted that
Spoiler
might trend on twitter after the premiere.
SO EXCITED FOR THAT LITTLE PIECE OF AWESOMENESS.

Edited by Loverly Emma, Mar 31, 2012 @ 12:46 AM.

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Posted Apr 1, 2012 @ 10:45 AM

New user! First post! Only so I could find people to talk about the amazingness that is this show, because I cannot for the life of me convince ANY of my friends that this show is worth watching. Of course, if it had a more "adult" title, like, I don't know, um, Revenge?, people might be more okay with it. As it stands, I am out in the cold here. Other titles-- "Tween Peaks"? "A-Game"?


I did manage to convince my friends. But it too FOREVER. They thought it sounded ridiculous. I tried to explain how a really cool thing about the show is none of the girls sleep with each other's boyfriends and they always come first. But then they responded "well, why is it called Pretty Little Liars, then". They did finally get hooked. It is really the prefect show because there is enough horrible stuff to snark on but enough genuinely good stuff that you don't get disgusted and walk away.

So new names. How about The Raping (and Killing)? No Laws and Order: SVU (with 100% more Mariska Hargitay... if you squint). Mother May I Hold Hands with Danger? 16 & Legal (in Pennsylvania). Stalker Girl. The Stalking Dead.

Edited by Cherith, Apr 1, 2012 @ 10:46 AM.

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Posted Apr 1, 2012 @ 10:58 AM

To be honest, I initially dismissed Buffy the Vampire Slayer because of the lame name, and I hated telling people that I watched My So-Called Life just because I didn't like the title, but both ended up being two of my favorite shows, so as shallow as it sounds names make a difference (see: Cougar Town). Haha, Mother May I Hold Hands with Danger gets my vote (because that tv movie title will NEVER not be funny).
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Posted Apr 1, 2012 @ 4:13 PM

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I think this one is weirdly cool! LMAO
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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 12:41 PM

It's sort of why PLL is, weirdly, smarter than the Killing,


You know now that you mention The Killing I suddenly feel completely calm about PLL's finale because my dislike of PLL's finale does not even come close to my feelings about The Killing's finale last season. That finale last year was probably the most maddening television experience of my life. At the end my first thought was "Rosie Larsen's dead but hey on the bright side she didn't have to suffer through this terrible hour of television the way I did." I don't know who killed Rosie Larsen but I do know that AMC killed thirteen hours of my time last year.

I initially dismissed Buffy the Vampire Slayer because of the lame name

I did too, but I think we're totally justified. On paper a show about a teenage girl named Buffy who's chosen to kill vampires sounds pretty ridiculous, and when you take into account that it was being made from a movie that was so bad yet mindlessly entertaining, that makes it sound even worse.

I do agree that PLL's name makes some people hesitant to watch it. I also feel it takes a bit of a hit because of the network it's on. Most people I know who are over the age of 18 just don't take ABC Family seriously. Hell, I'm not sure people under the age of 18 take the network seriously. Considering how awful some of the shows on the network are I can kind of understand why but for the ones that are good (like PLL or Greek) some people just assume the shows are stupid by association.
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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 1:00 PM

People make fun of me for watching this show and they don't even know the plot. Just the name.
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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 2:08 PM

I got a few people into it, now hooked, who were also hesitant. They thought it was a worse version of Gossip Girl because of the title.
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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 5:01 PM

Most people I know who are over the age of 18 just don't take ABC Family seriously. Hell, I'm not sure people under the age of 18 take the network seriously.

We don't.

So we're meeting Ezra's brother, eh? As much as I hate Ezzzzzzzzria, I do enjoy Ezra as a character, so I'm kind of into this idea. I hope they all go to Aria's house for an incredibly awkward family meeting.

I'm still excited about drunk Emily. Actually, I hope all the girls get incredibly drunk, because so far I love drunk Emily, drunk Spencer, and drunk Hanna. Throw in drunk Ella and I may just bake Marlene a cake.
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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 8:11 PM

Ugh, why can't they bring back Ezra's college roommate? I loved him just for his "dude, what are you doing here? She's your student" attitude. He wasn't preachy about it, and was kind to Aria, but he definitely called Ezra out on hanging with a high school girl. I don't remember him being unattractive either. If they must give Ezra some sort of posse, I'd rather they bring him back than introduce his family.

ETA: Yes, I cannot get people to watch this show with me either. One friend I convinced, but she's known me long enough to know I'll recommend things she'll like. Everyone else I've tried to convince wants no part of it.

Edited by JennyGil, Apr 2, 2012 @ 8:12 PM.

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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 8:55 PM

Everyone else I've tried to convince wants no part of it.


I used to watch PLL around my boyfriend who wouldn't stop ribbing me about it. So I decided to start loudly squealing, "OH MY GOD, HONEY, LOOK AT ARIA'S SHOES! HER HAIR! I LOVE SPENCER'S OUTFIT SO MUCH! HANNAH'S LIPGLOSS! HNNNNNNNGGGH!" until he'd give up teasing me and let me enjoy the episode in peace. Now when I load up an ep on Hulu, he's smart enough to spend an hour at the gym. So we're both happy!
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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 9:06 PM

Everyone else I've tried to convince wants no part of it.

The first time I tried to get my best friend to watch the show, she literally kept saying "what is the point of it? why don't they just go to the police?" And I had to try to explain "well, there's no real reason they don't, but just ignore that fact and go with it, because it's awesome."
But finally she saw the doll episode ("follow me end up like me") and was like "yeah, this is pretty awesome."
I still haven't gotten her to understand why I love HMC so much, but that's my next project.
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Posted Apr 2, 2012 @ 9:36 PM

Ugh, why can't they bring back Ezra's college roommate? I loved him just for his "dude, what are you doing here? She's your student" attitude. He wasn't preachy about it, and was kind to Aria, but he definitely called Ezra out on hanging with a high school girl. I don't remember him being unattractive either. If they must give Ezra some sort of posse, I'd rather they bring him back than introduce his family.


The actor who played him (Troian's boyfriend by the way) is the lead on another show now. Although if they wanted to they could technically recast the character but I doubt it's considered a significant enough role to bother recasting. I have zero interest in seeing Ezra's family, but then again I don't really have any interest in seeing Ezra period so my opinion is somewhat biased.

Edited by MartinisNShoes, Apr 2, 2012 @ 9:36 PM.

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Posted Apr 3, 2012 @ 10:48 AM

The first time I tried to get my best friend to watch the show, she literally kept saying "what is the point of it? why don't they just go to the police?" And I had to try to explain "well, there's no real reason they don't, but just ignore that fact and go with it, because it's awesome."


The show actually managed to convince me why the girls don't go to the police about this. First there's the Jenna thing which would automatically come out. Even if they don't have to deal with criminal charges, Rosewood is a small town and as one of the liars have said, they would always be looked on as the girls who blinded Jenna.

Also, from Rosewood's police pov, the girls have cried wolf not once but twice. First with Ian attacking Spencer and then with the trophy thing.

Then there was the whole thing with the shovel that only put the nail in the coffin for the girls not to be able to trust the police and vice-versa.


Ugh, why can't they bring back Ezra's college roommate? I loved him just for his "dude, what are you doing here? She's your student" attitude. He wasn't preachy about it, and was kind to Aria, but he definitely called Ezra out on hanging with a high school girl. I don't remember him being unattractive either. If they must give Ezra some sort of posse, I'd rather they bring him back than introduce his family.


I liked that dude as well, but knowing this show, if he'd stuck around he'd been singing Ezria praises in no time.

Most people I know who are over the age of 18 just don't take ABC Family seriously. Hell, I'm not sure people under the age of 18 take the network seriously.


If ABC Family keeps at it, I think it could really become the network to watch. Pretty Little Liars is pretty damn good and Switched at birth is an all around great show. Especially because CW has never been worst, imo. The shows start to suck these days sooner and sooner and it has come to the point I think twice of starting to watch anything from that network.

Edited by brunax5, Apr 3, 2012 @ 11:00 AM.

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Posted Apr 3, 2012 @ 10:58 AM

The show actually managed to convince me why the girls don't go to the police about this. First there's the Jenna thing which would automatically come out. Even if they don't have to deal with criminal charges, Rosewood is a smalltown and as one of the liars have said, they would always be looked on as the girls who blinded Jenna.

Also, from Rosewood's police pov, the girls have cried wolf not once but twice. First with Ian attacking Spencer and not one evidence being found and then with the trophy thing.

Then there was the whole thing with the shovel that only put the nail in the coffin for the girls not to be able to trust the police and vice-versa.


Agreed. Plus, they have been harrassed by two cops (Garrett and Wilden). Plus A has shown that she would resort to extreme violence and targeting family members if they told. Mona tried to kill Hanna with that car, she targted Hanna's mother, she made Toby fell down and break his arm, as far as they knew she killed the therapist (until she magically came back). So, they have reason to be scared.

I think that is one of the things the show has done well. They have gone to the police when it seemed like they had no choice. Being outed for the Jenna thing never trumped finding Ali's killer. But they always get screwed when they do go to the cops.


If ABC Family keeps at it, I think it could really become the network to watch. Pretty Little Liars is pretty damn good and Switched at birth is an all around great show. Especially because CW has never been worst, imo. Sooner and sooner the shows start to suck these days and it has come to the point I think twice of starting to watch anything from that network.


Apparently, ABC Family has been anxious to drop the "Family" from its name for awhile now. But part of the contract when Fox bought it from Pat Robinson was that it always had to have Family in the title and that went to ABC when they bought it from Fox (having to show the 700 Club is also part of that and they also have been trying to get out of that). So, yeah, they really have been working on their brand and trying to show some interesting programs. Pretty Little Liars and Switched at Birth both have some limited cross over success. Greek was an amazing show (as was the cancelled too soon 10 Things I Hate About You). So, they may keep going up. I think these kinds of soapy but also funny light shows have been missing from TV so I am glad they have taken up the niche.

Edited by Betsyb, Apr 3, 2012 @ 11:13 AM.

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Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 11:18 AM

bravissima, Tween Peaks!

was Ali murdered because she was overly sexual and/or pregnant (oh, the possibilities of page 5!)? Or was she murdered because she was a raging sociopath who destroyed everything she touched? Is her story psycho-sexual drama, or just drama?


I've always seen Ali as a descendant of Laura Palmer. Especially with the themes of the entire towns being involved, feeling remorseful, the layers of people revealed that both Ali and Laura were manipulating. Never sure if Ali/Laura were fighting against abusers or just manipulative crazies or both...especially the Laura we get to know in Fire Walk with Me.

Spencer is Audrey Horne on crack

I always saw Spence as a paranoid Coop on crack (in the most endearing way), but mainly because she's been the one consistently charging the investigation shenanigans. For what it's worth, I think Aria makes the perfect Donna what with all the assuming of Ali's/Vivian's identity at the end of this season. Duncan the teen pilot was totally Harold Smith in an airplane.

And, holy crap, I can very easily picture Ali in the Black Lodge.
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Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 7:46 PM

MartinisNShoes

The actor who played him (Troian's boyfriend by the way) is the lead on another show now. Although if they wanted to they could technically recast the character but I doubt it's considered a significant enough role to bother recasting. I have zero interest in seeing Ezra's family, but then again I don't really have any interest in seeing Ezra period so my opinion is somewhat biased.


brunax5

I liked that dude as well, but knowing this show, if he'd stuck around he'd been singing Ezria praises in no time.


Did not know he is Troian's boyfriend! I have zero interest in seeing Ezra as well, but if I accept that he's inevitable, I would at least like him to be surrounded by someone who will call him out on this effed up relationship. But Brunax has a point...he probably would have lost all that made him good, and quickly turned to singing the praises of Ezria. At least this way I can remember him fondly, I suppose.

When is this show coming back? I've been so bored without it.
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Posted Apr 5, 2012 @ 8:55 AM

When is this show coming back? I've been so bored without it.


June 5th.

As much as I complain about it, I miss watching it too.
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Posted Apr 5, 2012 @ 9:15 AM

I LOVE that we don't have to wait too long for the show's return. I miss watching it, three. I hope they do what they did last break by putting all the episodes in order on demand. That's how I caught up with the show in the first place. Plus, I still haven't seen the Halloween episode!

Ezra's brother was the guy at the bar with Ezra and Aria, right? Everything seems so far away. I definitely need a rewatch.
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