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[TWoP Roxy]

From syfy.com:

Barnabas escalates his war with Clarice and Zoe tries a daring escape.

Edited by TWoP Roxy, Mar 26, 2010 @ 12:27 PM.

[jthomas666]

Oh.
My.
God.

[AngryBudgie]

Talk about being a crash Dummy....

Frakking Hell!

I'm going to be in shock for a few days....now pardon me while I go find my jaw...it dropped on the floor somewhere.

Edited by AngryBudgie, Mar 26, 2010 @ 9:04 PM.

[mustbekarma]

Frack. It's going to take some time for me to process this. They certainly weren't shy about the body count this episode. I think I felt badly for everyone except Vergis and Barnabas. I hope Chloe gets to be the one to gank Barnabas. When she had to choose who would live or die, I was hoping for her to shoot him.

[kieyra]

Sweet Jesus, show.

Is Paula Malcolmson really gone?

Who's Chloe? (re post above)

Edited by kieyra, Mar 26, 2010 @ 9:06 PM.

[EvilEmoGnome]

Aaaaand shit just got real.

[Wrenchwind]

Phimon! D:

Amaaanda!! D: D:

On the bright side it was nice to be totally right about Emmanuelle being Evelyn.

The proto-raptors were also pretty neat.

But still!

Holy fucking shit!

This show! This show is killing me!

[chancellorjake]

Poor, Poor Amanda. You were too good for the worlds. Maybe Daniel will learn some important things from your death. Who am I kidding?

I'm assuming that Nestor is dead as we saw that Clarice had left the car and the previews indicate that She. Is. Pissed.
I just hope that she'll have the pleasure of offing Barnabas and soon. He needs killing.

No more sympathy for Zoe-bot. Philo was a good guy and she tossed him away like refuse.

[AngryBudgie]

Evelyn sure pounced fast. She manipulated Joseph back into the real world by breaking his heart so she could fix it...she may well become a wicked stepmother. If she's willing to tear Joseph away from Tammy like that...what could it bode for poor Willy?

Death all around tonight. Nestor, Philo, Amanda, maybe Zoe (again?). At least nobody hurt Serge.

[KYBlonde]

When will it resume? When??? When I say!!

sorry...

[No Touching]

Well. They pretty much just blew up the entire show, much as Battlestar was prone to do, except the mothership never had that high of a body count.

If there was never another episode of Caprica, I'd be satisfied with the prequel thus far. We can pretty much infer that nothing good will transpire from any of the events to come. Both Daniel and Joseph are once again at their lowest point (although Daniel has literally nothing left at this point and has no obvious escape from the hole he's dug himself, while Joseph can finally start his healing with Evelyn and his remaining family).

The STO storyline is still a bore, but it feels as if the setup is finally complete and it will finally be heading somewhere interesting.

Edited by No Touching, Mar 26, 2010 @ 9:14 PM.

[KillYourTV]

Now THAT'S how you do a finale.

[Edgeoforever]

They certainly weren't shy about the body count this episode. I think I felt badly for everyone except Vergis and Barnabas.

Wait! What did I miss? Vergis is OK and Barnabas only on the way to be taken out, right?
That box with the green label will get to be used and I doubt that the Graystone/Zoe conflict is done. Neither is the Tamara/Dad one - I am sure. There are other worlds in the V-world where they can meet.

This show! This show is killing me!

Not you. But just about everyone else.

Edited by Edgeoforever, Mar 26, 2010 @ 9:17 PM.

[Kaffyr]

... Aaand Joe is destroyed. Tamara is destroyed. Keon is destroyed. Amanda is destroyed. Daniel is destroyed. Lacey is destroyed.

Bloody. Hell.

As in, welcome to it.

[Bad Thoughts]

Evelyn sure pounced fast. She manipulated Joseph back into the real world by breaking his heart so she could fix it...she may well become a wicked stepmother. If she's willing to tear Joseph away from Tammy like that...what could it bode for poor Willy?

No kidding...she knew where Tammy was all along and manipulated their meeting. Some Persephone!

I am going to guess that U87/Zoe-A is ok. A military weapon that can't withstand a blown up gas tank would be worth crap.

[Wrenchwind]

Was Sasha (the defense official) somebody from BSG? She looked super familiar.

[Midge]

Yep, she was the sergeant at arms who investigated the water tank explosions.

[Isolde]

FRAK, FRAK, FRAK

As a veteran of BSG, I should be used to these cliffhangers by now? But Ronald D. Moore and Co. really know how to do them esp. the first mid-season ones.

I definitely need time to process this entire episode. Everyone was facing the hard truths left and right. I thought last week foreshadowed humanity/Caprica's/colonies end. But tonight it totally hit like a ton of bricks, that the fall is going to be down right brutal. I can't even begin to fathom how anyone survived physically, mentally or emotionally.

The fact that Zoe was born into "life" so to speak due to an act of blood and violence combined with the irony that there is literal blood on her hands; is chilling.

It certainly, however, makes me see BSG in a new light and understand just how desperate and tired everyone was.

[kieyra]

She looked a little like the actress who played Cain to me.

[caitlin claire]

Was Sasha (the defense official) somebody from BSG? She looked super familiar.

She reminded me of Cain.


Holy mother...damn. I'm torn between wanting Amanda to not be dead and wanting the show to have the stones to kill off a main character like that.

[KillYourTV]

So is Philomon the first true Cylon casualty?

[Bad Thoughts]

Lover, dear, I'm really a robot with the mind of an alleged suicide bomber, as well as the adolescent daughter of your employer. Still love me, right, looks don't matter?

Sure thing, baby.

Poor Phil.

[AngryBudgie]

As a veteran of BSG, I should be used to these cliffhangers by now? But Ronald D. Moore and Co. really know how to do them esp. the first mid-season ones.

RDM knows what he's doing when it comes to cliffhangers for sure. Wish they had given us some indicator when Caprica would be returning.

Count me in for those who thought I saw Michelle Forbes for a second. I'd kill to see the actors who played the Pegasus crew again in Caprica, I loved the Pegasus arc, its what really got BSG's claws in me.

...did anyone catch who was singing...I swear I heard Gaeta!

[dalek sec]

I think Sasha is Cain, another awesome callback to the series.

Zoe-bot has lost all love and understanding from me after tonight, granted Philomon annoyed me but he didn't have to die like that, swatted away like he was nothing.

Loved the proto-raptors, kind of a skynet feel to them, what were those funky rifles that the troops had at the roadblock?

For Evelyn and the whole V-world thing I'm not sure how I should feel, worried that she and Tammy did this to him or glad that he won't be killing himself with that "Amp" stuff in the game.

[Kaffyr]

Wrenchwind, yes she was. She was the sergeant who investigated the water bombing in the first season, I believe.

I think Evelyn did what she had to. She initially hoped finding Tammy would help him, and only after it became clear that he'd become addicted to amp (and that's my only quibble with the show ... I'd have liked even a half-scene's worth of lead in to that, despite the hints in previous episodes) did she go and talk to Tamara to ask what should be done. She cares, she's strong (and Tauron, rather than simply Tauron-familiar, which was what I previously came away with), and I think she's on the side of whatever angels may still survive in this show.

ETA: dalek sec, I felt even more empathy for Zoe, because it seemed to me that she had no true gut understanding that her touch could quite truly kill. She knew, intellectually, that she was in a robot's body, but she didn't realize that what would have been an angry slap, had she been in her own body, was a lethal action in her current prison. Her shock and self-loathing was pretty evident as she drove. I think she was actually trying to kill herself with that crash. Poor thing doesn't realize she's not going to get out of hell that easily.

Edited by Kaffyr, Mar 26, 2010 @ 9:39 PM.

[RemotePilot]

I think only one in addition to Definitely Dead Philomon.

Best of all possible worlds it's Clarice's husband. She's got more. The call to Daniel could have been about the bot.

I'm putting money on Amanda somehow being alive.

But damn, it's all switched up now fer sure.

[mustbekarma]

I think Evelyn did what she had to. She initially hoped finding Tammy would help him, and only after it became clear that he'd become addicted to amp (and that's my only quibble with the show ... I'd have liked even a half-scene's worth of lead in to that, despite the hints in previous episodes) did she go and talk to Tamara to ask what should be done. She cares, she's strong (and Tauron, rather than simply Tauron-familiar, which was what I previously came away with), and I think she's on the side of whatever angels may still survive in this show.

The problem I have with Evelyn is that she gave him the amp. She definitely had a hand in creating that problem.

Edited by mustbekarma, Mar 26, 2010 @ 9:31 PM.

[justsmile]

I thought the flashbacks with Zoe & the music/vocals at the end were so heavy handed... that I laughed. Maybe cause I really don't care about Zoe or Zoe-A. Yes, they're 16 year olds but very annoying. Actually I really don't care for any of the Graystones.

Loved the Lacy subplot. Although she still didn't yell at Zoe-A about if she followed real Zoe onto the train she'd be dead.

Poor Phil, Poor Nester. RIP. I suspect these are the only two characters that actually died in this episode.

I don't for a second think that Amanda really went over. I suspect they'll have like her Angel brother grab her or something. Or C. Willow.

Evelyn being Josephs guide...wow how surprising!! Except that it wasn't. I really wish they'd go more into the virtual world Tamara. Tamara's subplot is so much more interesting then Zoe-A's.

No Sam, No William?

It seems that BSG has made me jaded.

Edited by justsmile, Mar 26, 2010 @ 9:33 PM.

[shapeshifter]

On the bright side it was nice to be totally right about Emmanuelle being Evelyn.

I was totally wrong (thought Emmanuelle was Tamara) but I'm OK with being wrong.

I'm assuming that Nestor is dead as we saw that Clarice had left the car

I really didn't like him anyway.

No more sympathy for Zoe-bot. Philo was a good guy and she tossed him away like refuse.

In her defense, I don't think she meant to kill him. And I expect her to be really sorry about it.

Evelyn sure pounced fast. She manipulated Joseph back into the real world by breaking his heart so she could fix it...she may well become a wicked stepmother. If she's willing to tear Joseph away from Tammy like that...what could it bode for poor Willy?

I thought she was sincerely doing what was necessary. He had become totally strung out. But now that you mention it, she was the one who turned him on to Amp, and she may have prevented him from finding her earlier. And she probably knew Heracles' avatar name because she had investigated him for Joseph, not because Tad had contacted her.

When will it resume?

According to Sasha Roiz: October. Which is way better than the January or July of 2011 I was reading elsewhere.

[Bad Thoughts]

She definitely had a hand in creating that problem.

She also knew where Tammy was, and led Joseph on a wild goose chase.