As I write this, DC Comics is reaching the tail end of a major event, Blackest Night. It revolves mostly on the concept of Green Lantern and the emotional spectrum. The spectrum boils down seven characteristics to colors, based on the ROY G BIV model:
Red: Rage/Anger
Orange: Avarice
Yellow: Fear
Green: Willpower
Blue: Hope
Indigo: Compassion
Violet: Love
Black: Death
As you can imagine, this can be applied to television shows as well. This article gives some good examples, and more can be found in the comments. (not to mention this piece covering the WWE). To kick things off, let me do one for Survivor.
Red: Rupert. Yeah, he's supposed to be a misfit, but piss him off at your own peril.
Orange: Russell. Part of it's for his attitude, the rest is because of his gut.
Yellow: Rob Mariano. I don't think anybody could fear-monger as much as he could, given his surprising success in All-Stars. If he doesn't fit? Bring in Jeff Probst.
Green: Yul. Doesn't have much to do with willpower as it does having a good-looking smart fella in the mix.
Blue: Yau-Man. He represents all of the people Probst would turn up his nose at. Dreamz's background makes him a better fit, but there's no color for "scatterbrained."
Indigo: No clue. I know it's not Probst. He's the anti-Indigo. Maybe somebody as inoffensive as Colleen?
Violet: Parvati. She flirted with the boys and won. Also, she'd probably look better in a Star Sapphire get-up than Jerri.
So . . . what are your fantasy Lantern Corps?
TV And The Emotional Spectrum: Which Lantern Are You?
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Lantern7
, Feb 05 2010 02:49 AM
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#1
Posted Feb 5, 2010 @ 2:49 AM
#2
Posted Feb 5, 2010 @ 6:13 AM
Ooo, this sounds fun. Since someone beat me to the Muppets (brilliantly, might I add), I'll start with the enduring classic The Simpsons.
Red: Moe Syzlak. He hates everyone and everything, most of all himself.
Orange: Comic Book Guy. I know Mr. Burns is the obvious choice, but I'm saving him for later, and I felt the need to work him in here somewhere. And it DOES fit. He's ruthless when it comes to making a buck, lacking any sense of human kindness or compassion, especially towards the children of Springfield.
Yellow: The Nelson/Dolph/Kearney trio. They rule the playgrounds with an iron fist. It bends the rules a little, but I think it works.
Green: Ned Flanders. The man follows every rule in the Bible, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff, and is kind and decent to Homer no matter how Homer fucks up his life.
Blue: Lisa Simpson, the one person for Springfield who will end up doing something great someday.
Indigo: Marge Simpson. She's the most overlooked member of the main gang, but everything she does is out of love for her family. She'll go out of her way to be kind to the sort of people no one else will have anything to do with. Probably the best person on the show.
Violet: Waylon Smithers. He'll do anything, no matter how ridiculous, for the person he loves most in the world.
Black: Mr. Burns. He's old, frail, and his body is as shriveled as his heart.
I only wish I could have fit Professor Frink and Ralph Wiggum in there somewhere. And suddenly I wish I could draw...
Red: Moe Syzlak. He hates everyone and everything, most of all himself.
Orange: Comic Book Guy. I know Mr. Burns is the obvious choice, but I'm saving him for later, and I felt the need to work him in here somewhere. And it DOES fit. He's ruthless when it comes to making a buck, lacking any sense of human kindness or compassion, especially towards the children of Springfield.
Yellow: The Nelson/Dolph/Kearney trio. They rule the playgrounds with an iron fist. It bends the rules a little, but I think it works.
Green: Ned Flanders. The man follows every rule in the Bible, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff, and is kind and decent to Homer no matter how Homer fucks up his life.
Blue: Lisa Simpson, the one person for Springfield who will end up doing something great someday.
Indigo: Marge Simpson. She's the most overlooked member of the main gang, but everything she does is out of love for her family. She'll go out of her way to be kind to the sort of people no one else will have anything to do with. Probably the best person on the show.
Violet: Waylon Smithers. He'll do anything, no matter how ridiculous, for the person he loves most in the world.
Black: Mr. Burns. He's old, frail, and his body is as shriveled as his heart.
I only wish I could have fit Professor Frink and Ralph Wiggum in there somewhere. And suddenly I wish I could draw...
Edited by McKay, Feb 5, 2010 @ 6:14 AM.
#3
Posted Feb 5, 2010 @ 12:14 PM
Ooh, great idea. And I choose "Lost"!
Red: Smoke monster, because, well, smoke monster = rage. And discovering that Smokey is an aspect of Jacob's rival/opposite only makes it work better for me because he's been seething with the desire to kill Jacob for a really long time. If he's ineligible because of his lack of being a human being, I'd say Sawyer, who carried his anger at the 'real' Sawyer for so long and let it determine his life.
Orange: Charles Widmore. Willing to sacrifice anything and anyone to gain power over the island. And his game playing with that damn scotch. And his overall arrogance.
Yellow: Frogurt. He basically epitomized fear on that island.
Green: Kate. Even though I don't like her, I have to admit she shows amazing willpower in her never-give-up attitude towards being a fugitive.
Blue: Bernard or Sun. Bernard for his fervent search for a cure for Rose. Sun for her patient vigil for Jin after the raft left.
Indigo: Juliet. A healer, a woman of courage, who didn't hate her rival (Kate) and did all she could to help both the Others and the Lostaways.
Violet: Desmond and Penny. Literally a love that transcended time.
Black: Keamy. He brought death on a massive scale to the island.
Weirdly, I left out many of my favorite characters - Locke, Sayid, Ben, Daniel, Hurley - but also Jack, who I don't like, but who is, after all, the 'leading man'. But that's my take - I'd love to see others.
Red: Smoke monster, because, well, smoke monster = rage. And discovering that Smokey is an aspect of Jacob's rival/opposite only makes it work better for me because he's been seething with the desire to kill Jacob for a really long time. If he's ineligible because of his lack of being a human being, I'd say Sawyer, who carried his anger at the 'real' Sawyer for so long and let it determine his life.
Orange: Charles Widmore. Willing to sacrifice anything and anyone to gain power over the island. And his game playing with that damn scotch. And his overall arrogance.
Yellow: Frogurt. He basically epitomized fear on that island.
Green: Kate. Even though I don't like her, I have to admit she shows amazing willpower in her never-give-up attitude towards being a fugitive.
Blue: Bernard or Sun. Bernard for his fervent search for a cure for Rose. Sun for her patient vigil for Jin after the raft left.
Indigo: Juliet. A healer, a woman of courage, who didn't hate her rival (Kate) and did all she could to help both the Others and the Lostaways.
Violet: Desmond and Penny. Literally a love that transcended time.
Black: Keamy. He brought death on a massive scale to the island.
Weirdly, I left out many of my favorite characters - Locke, Sayid, Ben, Daniel, Hurley - but also Jack, who I don't like, but who is, after all, the 'leading man'. But that's my take - I'd love to see others.
#4
Posted Feb 7, 2010 @ 11:41 AM
I'm just egotistical enough to think I can apply this to the brilliance of The Wire.
Red: Avon Barksdale. His hotheadedness, at least compared to his cerebral lieutenant Stringer Bell, is a large part of what created the rift between them that led to the downfall of both.
Orange: Clay Davis/Maury Levy. Two of the most despicable and unlikable characters on a show that wallows in grey shades of morality, always concerned solely with making money for themselves through any means possible, and savvy enough to have positioned themselves on the right side of the law so they get to skate away scot free.
Yellow: Frank Sobotka. The complete opposite of the first two, one of the most fundamentally good characters on the show. But his fear of his whole livelihood decaying and leaving him and his friends with nowhere to go led him to make some very bad decisions in a tragedy that could have come straight from Shakespeare.
Green: Jimmy McNulty. His motives may be fundamentally selfish, taking on criminals mostly to rub his own ego, but his actions still result in fewer criminals on the street because he has the strength of mind to stand up against any obstacle and see his plans through.
Blue: Ellis Carver. Miss Alli noted that she found Carver the show's most relatable character, who she felt she could actually sit down and have a conversation with. And that's largely because of his own hope that things can be better than they are, which leads him to evolve as a cop while his friend Herc remains an incompetent, unlikable mess.
Indigo: Beadie Russell. One of the few authority figures whose motives are entirely selfless, coming from a genuine desire to do good. And her growing relationship with McNulty leads him to become a better person, however briefly.
Violet: Nick Sobotka. This is the biggest stretch, having already used up Beadie, but the way his love for his girlfriend remains the primary focus even as he sinks deeper into his uncle and cousin's criminal activities makes him the best fit left in a series where that emotion is in very shoft supply.
Black: Marlo Stanfield. In stark contrast to the likes of Avon and Stringer, Marlo makes no bones about who he is: a sociopathic criminal who has no problems with killing anyone in his way, or who just happens to be in the vicinity when he's in a bad mood (as a certain security guard can attest to).
Red: Avon Barksdale. His hotheadedness, at least compared to his cerebral lieutenant Stringer Bell, is a large part of what created the rift between them that led to the downfall of both.
Orange: Clay Davis/Maury Levy. Two of the most despicable and unlikable characters on a show that wallows in grey shades of morality, always concerned solely with making money for themselves through any means possible, and savvy enough to have positioned themselves on the right side of the law so they get to skate away scot free.
Yellow: Frank Sobotka. The complete opposite of the first two, one of the most fundamentally good characters on the show. But his fear of his whole livelihood decaying and leaving him and his friends with nowhere to go led him to make some very bad decisions in a tragedy that could have come straight from Shakespeare.
Green: Jimmy McNulty. His motives may be fundamentally selfish, taking on criminals mostly to rub his own ego, but his actions still result in fewer criminals on the street because he has the strength of mind to stand up against any obstacle and see his plans through.
Blue: Ellis Carver. Miss Alli noted that she found Carver the show's most relatable character, who she felt she could actually sit down and have a conversation with. And that's largely because of his own hope that things can be better than they are, which leads him to evolve as a cop while his friend Herc remains an incompetent, unlikable mess.
Indigo: Beadie Russell. One of the few authority figures whose motives are entirely selfless, coming from a genuine desire to do good. And her growing relationship with McNulty leads him to become a better person, however briefly.
Violet: Nick Sobotka. This is the biggest stretch, having already used up Beadie, but the way his love for his girlfriend remains the primary focus even as he sinks deeper into his uncle and cousin's criminal activities makes him the best fit left in a series where that emotion is in very shoft supply.
Black: Marlo Stanfield. In stark contrast to the likes of Avon and Stringer, Marlo makes no bones about who he is: a sociopathic criminal who has no problems with killing anyone in his way, or who just happens to be in the vicinity when he's in a bad mood (as a certain security guard can attest to).
Edited by Eegah, Feb 7, 2010 @ 11:43 AM.
#5
Posted Feb 7, 2010 @ 11:55 AM
Amazing stuff, everyone!
Sadly, I'm not smart enough to actually do one myself, but I *am* shameless enough to make a request of those who (unlike me!) have actually grasped this concept: please, if at all possible, try to apply these to Buffy!
Sadly, I'm not smart enough to actually do one myself, but I *am* shameless enough to make a request of those who (unlike me!) have actually grasped this concept: please, if at all possible, try to apply these to Buffy!
Edited by couldhavebee, Feb 7, 2010 @ 11:56 AM.
#6
Posted Feb 7, 2010 @ 4:27 PM
Cool concept! I don't think I can do a complete one off hand, but can I suggest Omar Little as Violet for the Wire? He always struck me as one of the most loving characters on the show and most of his actions in the first three seasons arise from wanting to avenge his boyfriend.
#7
Posted Feb 7, 2010 @ 5:41 PM
Omar Little would actually fit more for the Yellow part, since as a geek I recall that the Yellow aspect of the Emotional Spectrum is about inspiring fear within others* and everyone knows to run or defend themselves when they hear that whistle.
Onto the Buffy:
Red- Dark Willow. She was rather literally overwhelmed with rage when Tara was murdered, to the point of nearly ending the world. It blinded her to everything else and all her other emotions, causing her to try to kill (relatively) innocent people and attack her friends until she was snapped out of it. A case could be made for Faith too, in the "self-loathing" kind of sense.
Orange- Anya. Really, between her uninhibited desire for sex and her desire for more and more money, could there have been anyone else?
Yellow- Angelus. Again, the Yellow aspect is about instilling fear, and nobody in the show inspired fear with the good and the evil alike quite like Angelus. Between nailing puppies to walls, leaving envelopes filled with dead fish, leaving corpses as surprises and stalking his prey while leaving them beautiful sketches of themselves as warnings, Angelus made friends and foes all fear him and his reputation, even in the times where he didn't back it up.
Green- Buffy. The hero of the story, the one who overcomes the most obstacles and adversities, the one who gets things done even when it costs her everything she loves, the one who clawed her way out of a coffin and six feet of dirt on sheer will and took on a mentally unstable vamp with no powers, friends to back her up, or self-confidence with only her own skill to rely on. Really doesn't need much explanation. A case could also be made for Spike choosing to become good and seeking out a soul even when he was soulless and evil.
Blue- Xander. I was debating whether or not to switch Xander and (normal) Willow in their respective categories, but even though Xander is usually the heart of the group, more often he's also more of a motivational figure than Willow. He believes in his friends and inspires them when hope is usually gone (the "What Would Buffy Do?" speech in Season Four, the yellow crayon speech in Season Six), and in turn they inspire him right back.
Indigo- Tara. Pretty much the most compassionate person in the show, she's been the shoulder to cry on for Buffy, Dawn and Willow and the confidante for Buffy in times where the latter didn't think anyone else would understand. She even showed compassion to Willow during the times when Willow didn't particularly deserve any (to quote Giles in Season Two, "To forgive is an act of compassion, Buffy. It's-it's... it's not done because people deserve it. It's done because they need it.")
Violet- Willow. For some reason she always seemed to be the most loving of the Scoobies, to the point of being a bit clingy, and has been involved in the highest number of loving relationships in the show (arguably the most in the entire Jossverse). Those consumed by the Violet portion of the Spectrum are notoriously clingy (understatement of the century), so she could fit here. Like I said above though, she could easily switch with Xander, especially since she tends to see the good in others more than Xander does.
Black- The First Evil. The Black isn't literally about death so much as the complete absence of emotion, and the First's motivation for wanting to become corporeal was because it couldn't feel anything. It could also literally impersonate anyone who had died, so that makes sense.
*(If it helps any, the Emotional Spectrum is more about psychological drives than literal emotion, since greed, death and willpower aren't emotions.) [/nerd]
Onto the Buffy:
Red- Dark Willow. She was rather literally overwhelmed with rage when Tara was murdered, to the point of nearly ending the world. It blinded her to everything else and all her other emotions, causing her to try to kill (relatively) innocent people and attack her friends until she was snapped out of it. A case could be made for Faith too, in the "self-loathing" kind of sense.
Orange- Anya. Really, between her uninhibited desire for sex and her desire for more and more money, could there have been anyone else?
Yellow- Angelus. Again, the Yellow aspect is about instilling fear, and nobody in the show inspired fear with the good and the evil alike quite like Angelus. Between nailing puppies to walls, leaving envelopes filled with dead fish, leaving corpses as surprises and stalking his prey while leaving them beautiful sketches of themselves as warnings, Angelus made friends and foes all fear him and his reputation, even in the times where he didn't back it up.
Green- Buffy. The hero of the story, the one who overcomes the most obstacles and adversities, the one who gets things done even when it costs her everything she loves, the one who clawed her way out of a coffin and six feet of dirt on sheer will and took on a mentally unstable vamp with no powers, friends to back her up, or self-confidence with only her own skill to rely on. Really doesn't need much explanation. A case could also be made for Spike choosing to become good and seeking out a soul even when he was soulless and evil.
Blue- Xander. I was debating whether or not to switch Xander and (normal) Willow in their respective categories, but even though Xander is usually the heart of the group, more often he's also more of a motivational figure than Willow. He believes in his friends and inspires them when hope is usually gone (the "What Would Buffy Do?" speech in Season Four, the yellow crayon speech in Season Six), and in turn they inspire him right back.
Indigo- Tara. Pretty much the most compassionate person in the show, she's been the shoulder to cry on for Buffy, Dawn and Willow and the confidante for Buffy in times where the latter didn't think anyone else would understand. She even showed compassion to Willow during the times when Willow didn't particularly deserve any (to quote Giles in Season Two, "To forgive is an act of compassion, Buffy. It's-it's... it's not done because people deserve it. It's done because they need it.")
Violet- Willow. For some reason she always seemed to be the most loving of the Scoobies, to the point of being a bit clingy, and has been involved in the highest number of loving relationships in the show (arguably the most in the entire Jossverse). Those consumed by the Violet portion of the Spectrum are notoriously clingy (understatement of the century), so she could fit here. Like I said above though, she could easily switch with Xander, especially since she tends to see the good in others more than Xander does.
Black- The First Evil. The Black isn't literally about death so much as the complete absence of emotion, and the First's motivation for wanting to become corporeal was because it couldn't feel anything. It could also literally impersonate anyone who had died, so that makes sense.
*(If it helps any, the Emotional Spectrum is more about psychological drives than literal emotion, since greed, death and willpower aren't emotions.) [/nerd]
#8
Posted Feb 7, 2010 @ 6:39 PM
Omar Little would actually fit more for the Yellow part, since as a geek I recall that the Yellow aspect of the Emotional Spectrum is about inspiring fear within others* and everyone knows to run or defend themselves when they hear that whistle.
Absolutely DMike! The scene in Season 4 when Omar's walking to the store in his silky blue pajamas and still has people running in fear sums that up perfectly.
Awesome Buffy analysis as well :)
#9
Posted Feb 7, 2010 @ 10:08 PM
Now onto the first show that popped into my mind when I saw this category, Battlestar Galactica.
Red- Cavil. John Cavil's rage against his parents, humanity, and his own physical limitations inspired him to plan the genocide of the human race. I don't know if any other character on television can beat that. Even the "good" Cavil from The Plan was still incredibly self-loathing and angry with his fellow One when they reunited.
Orange- Gaius Baltar. Up until the last few episodes, every single thing he ever did was ultimately self-serving. Hell, his first reaction upon hearing that he was going to be responsible for the death of humanity was to want to call his lawyer. Plus, even after the genocide of the human race he still craved the finer things in life amongst dwindling resources within the fleet.
Yellow- Bill Adama. With all their limitless resources, numbers in the millions (if not billions), and eternal resurrections, who is the one person the Cylon race was consistently afraid of? William Adama. And with good reason.
Green- Athena. The one Cylon to truly and utterly break from her model after falling in love with a human, Athena completely defied her programming and proved herself not only an ally of the human race, but also an honored member of the Colonial military. She went so far in her belief in her individuality that she considered herself a real person and not a Cylon.
Blue- Helo. The most honorable human being on the show and the person who held up to his ideals throughout the series, Carl Agathon was the first person to believe that there was a chance humans and Cylons to coexist. He believed in the good in the most faulty people around himand never gave up on anyone, even when he had to mutiny against Starbuck on the Demetrius. Plus, he did father the child that brought hope to both the human and Cylon races.
Indigo- Laura Roslin. In the beginning she was by far the most compassionate person on the entire show. She went cold for certain periods of the show, but she would eventually find her empathy again and found a reasonable balance between her ideals and her pragmatism and her ability to love. I'd also suggest Samuel T. Anders, but Laura fits it more.
Violet- Caprica-Six. I'm not even sure if this one needs an explanation since her arc pretty much stands for itself.
Black-Starbuck. Much like Buffy Summers, death was her gift. She brought the truce that would mean the end of Cylon resurrection, bringing eventual death to the entire race. She continued existing even after death... sort of. More in line with the aspect of the Black, however, Kara Thrace certainly shut down her emotions on a consistent basis throughout the series, more than just the average soldier would. Whether it was to escape her feelings for another, her feelings about herself, or her feelings toward her destiny, Starbuck became a cold person on and off throughout the show only eclipsed by the Cavils and the Simons.
Red- Cavil. John Cavil's rage against his parents, humanity, and his own physical limitations inspired him to plan the genocide of the human race. I don't know if any other character on television can beat that. Even the "good" Cavil from The Plan was still incredibly self-loathing and angry with his fellow One when they reunited.
Orange- Gaius Baltar. Up until the last few episodes, every single thing he ever did was ultimately self-serving. Hell, his first reaction upon hearing that he was going to be responsible for the death of humanity was to want to call his lawyer. Plus, even after the genocide of the human race he still craved the finer things in life amongst dwindling resources within the fleet.
Yellow- Bill Adama. With all their limitless resources, numbers in the millions (if not billions), and eternal resurrections, who is the one person the Cylon race was consistently afraid of? William Adama. And with good reason.
Green- Athena. The one Cylon to truly and utterly break from her model after falling in love with a human, Athena completely defied her programming and proved herself not only an ally of the human race, but also an honored member of the Colonial military. She went so far in her belief in her individuality that she considered herself a real person and not a Cylon.
Blue- Helo. The most honorable human being on the show and the person who held up to his ideals throughout the series, Carl Agathon was the first person to believe that there was a chance humans and Cylons to coexist. He believed in the good in the most faulty people around himand never gave up on anyone, even when he had to mutiny against Starbuck on the Demetrius. Plus, he did father the child that brought hope to both the human and Cylon races.
Indigo- Laura Roslin. In the beginning she was by far the most compassionate person on the entire show. She went cold for certain periods of the show, but she would eventually find her empathy again and found a reasonable balance between her ideals and her pragmatism and her ability to love. I'd also suggest Samuel T. Anders, but Laura fits it more.
Violet- Caprica-Six. I'm not even sure if this one needs an explanation since her arc pretty much stands for itself.
Black-Starbuck. Much like Buffy Summers, death was her gift. She brought the truce that would mean the end of Cylon resurrection, bringing eventual death to the entire race. She continued existing even after death... sort of. More in line with the aspect of the Black, however, Kara Thrace certainly shut down her emotions on a consistent basis throughout the series, more than just the average soldier would. Whether it was to escape her feelings for another, her feelings about herself, or her feelings toward her destiny, Starbuck became a cold person on and off throughout the show only eclipsed by the Cavils and the Simons.
#10
Posted Feb 7, 2010 @ 10:58 PM
As a corollary to DMike's, here's a breakdown of Angel:
Red - Angel, Connor (like father, like son). Connor from his reintroduction as a teenager in late S3 until S4 finale Home was all about the rage. His rage ran both hot and cold, but always simmered. Angel (with soul) tried to keep his anger under tight control, but his flashes of rage were devastating (Reunion, Forgiving).
Orange - Lilah Morgan and Lindsey McDonald. Who else? Cordelia and Spike both flirt with avarice, but not to the extent of the two LMs.
Yellow - I have to agree with DMike and nominate Angelus. Even caged he could sow fear and distrust. And Angel's fear of himself was one of his biggest motivators.
Green - I'd have to say Wesley. Even when he was a bumbling idiot, he was determined to stay in the fight, to do his part, and (probably) to prove his father wrong. Later, as his world dissolved more than once, his determination grew into a steely and frightening resolve where only the end goal truly mattered.
Blue - Hope can be a fragile, fleeting thing in the Angelverse (even moreso than in Buffy). I'd probably go with Doyle, although Blue, Indigo, and Violet can trade off a lot. Doyle's hope for Angel, and in Angel's goodness and strength, started everything. After Doyle's death, Fred becomes the hope of the MOG.
Indigo - Fred, definitely. Her compassion for Angel gave him the strength to push on in Pylea, and her compassion for Spike gave him his first real human connection in L.A.
Violet - Suprisingly hard to pin down. Season 5 would say that Fred was the "heart" of the group. Cordelia's a definite contender as her character evolved. Her (platonic) love for Angel and the group kept her with them as the visions worsened, and eventually led to her becoming part demon. Angel himself might also work. His love for Buffy and need to honor her kept him fighting in the beginning, his love for Darla drove him to despair more than once, his love for Cordelia and Wesley led him to involve himself more in human life, and his love for Connor led to his deal with the devil.
Black - Wolfram and Hart? Especially if you consider them avatars or aspects of the First Evil. Illyria would also work.
I'm not as satisfied with this analysis as I am with DMike's breakdown of Buffy, which I agreed with even before I saw it. I'd like to get Gunn in here, under Green, Blue, or maybe Violet. Any help?
Red - Angel, Connor (like father, like son). Connor from his reintroduction as a teenager in late S3 until S4 finale Home was all about the rage. His rage ran both hot and cold, but always simmered. Angel (with soul) tried to keep his anger under tight control, but his flashes of rage were devastating (Reunion, Forgiving).
Orange - Lilah Morgan and Lindsey McDonald. Who else? Cordelia and Spike both flirt with avarice, but not to the extent of the two LMs.
Yellow - I have to agree with DMike and nominate Angelus. Even caged he could sow fear and distrust. And Angel's fear of himself was one of his biggest motivators.
Green - I'd have to say Wesley. Even when he was a bumbling idiot, he was determined to stay in the fight, to do his part, and (probably) to prove his father wrong. Later, as his world dissolved more than once, his determination grew into a steely and frightening resolve where only the end goal truly mattered.
Blue - Hope can be a fragile, fleeting thing in the Angelverse (even moreso than in Buffy). I'd probably go with Doyle, although Blue, Indigo, and Violet can trade off a lot. Doyle's hope for Angel, and in Angel's goodness and strength, started everything. After Doyle's death, Fred becomes the hope of the MOG.
Indigo - Fred, definitely. Her compassion for Angel gave him the strength to push on in Pylea, and her compassion for Spike gave him his first real human connection in L.A.
Violet - Suprisingly hard to pin down. Season 5 would say that Fred was the "heart" of the group. Cordelia's a definite contender as her character evolved. Her (platonic) love for Angel and the group kept her with them as the visions worsened, and eventually led to her becoming part demon. Angel himself might also work. His love for Buffy and need to honor her kept him fighting in the beginning, his love for Darla drove him to despair more than once, his love for Cordelia and Wesley led him to involve himself more in human life, and his love for Connor led to his deal with the devil.
Black - Wolfram and Hart? Especially if you consider them avatars or aspects of the First Evil. Illyria would also work.
I'm not as satisfied with this analysis as I am with DMike's breakdown of Buffy, which I agreed with even before I saw it. I'd like to get Gunn in here, under Green, Blue, or maybe Violet. Any help?
#11
Posted Feb 8, 2010 @ 12:20 AM
I'd actually argue Gunn as either Red or Orange. Red fits him because he's had at least three separate mysrtical events that brought about his inner rage: the Shroud of Rahmon, Billy Blim's bad touch, and the bleeding eye event in Season Five. Orange would also suit him since he sold his soul for a truck and agreed to a second brain-boost knowing full well that the price would get someone innocent harmed and/or killed; he just didn't think it would be Fred.
#12
Posted Feb 8, 2010 @ 1:04 AM
Given how Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is coming to Adult Swim next Saturday, I figured maybe we could classify the original FMA cast.
Red: Envy. You'd think it would be Wrath, but I can't take Moofy seriously. Besides, Moofy didn't shish-kabob Ed like Envy did in the penultimate episode.
Orange: Gluttony and/or Lust.
Yellow: Scar.
Green: Edward Elric. He's a screechy runt, but it takes willpower to deal with two artificial limbs.
Blue: Alphonse Elric. For somebody whose entire body was lost, he's an optimistic sort.
Indigo: I'm thinking like Winry Rockbell. Or maybe Major Armstrong, since he cares and he's sparkly as hell.
Violet: Maes Hughes. Man loved his wife and daughter a lot.
Black: Dante. Of course, she defies death a lot, so I dunno if she'd be elligible for Black Lantern-dom.
Red: Envy. You'd think it would be Wrath, but I can't take Moofy seriously. Besides, Moofy didn't shish-kabob Ed like Envy did in the penultimate episode.
Orange: Gluttony and/or Lust.
Yellow: Scar.
Green: Edward Elric. He's a screechy runt, but it takes willpower to deal with two artificial limbs.
Blue: Alphonse Elric. For somebody whose entire body was lost, he's an optimistic sort.
Indigo: I'm thinking like Winry Rockbell. Or maybe Major Armstrong, since he cares and he's sparkly as hell.
Violet: Maes Hughes. Man loved his wife and daughter a lot.
Black: Dante. Of course, she defies death a lot, so I dunno if she'd be elligible for Black Lantern-dom.
#13
Posted Feb 8, 2010 @ 8:20 AM
Blue- Xander. I was debating whether or not to switch Xander and (normal) Willow in their respective categories, but even though Xander is usually the heart of the group, more often he's also more of a motivational figure than Willow. He believes in his friends and inspires them when hope is usually gone (the "What Would Buffy Do?" speech in Season Four, the yellow crayon speech in Season Six), and in turn they inspire him right back.
I'm glad you went with your instinct to place Xander here while categorizing Willow as 'violet', because I totally agree---especially after reading your rationale!
Anya is so very, deeply 'orange'!
I don't know whether to be delighted or annoyed by my new obsession/fascination with this concept---it means I'll never be able to watch my shows again without pondering the color categorization of each and every character!
#14
Posted Feb 8, 2010 @ 5:30 PM
OK...I'm going to attempt to categorize the characters of one of my all time favorite shows, Oz:
Red I had to go with Karim Said on this one. Everyone in Oz had cause to be Angry, but only Said put it to any kind of use where it counts. He incited the riot due to his anger over the treatment of prisoners and ultimately it brought about some change.
Orange Who could it be but Ryan O'Reilly? He would do just about anything and work for anybody to make a quick buck or 2
Yellow Simon Adebisi was definitely the prisoner to fear in Oz. For all the crazy that lurked the halls, he was without question the craziest. He left you fearing for your life and "Prison virginity"
Green of course, Tim McManus. Held on so stubborn and steadfast to his dream of "Emerald City"...too bad he tested the experiment on the worst-of the-worst criminals in the whole Prison. Very ambitious
Blue I went with Sister Peter Marie. With all the counseling she tried to give these men she must have held on to some hope for their rehabilitation.
Indigo I chose Father Mukada; I think he's more of a realist than Sister Pete and knows that some of these men are beyond hope. Compassion is all he has to go on.
Violet Who's done more for love on this show than Cyril O'Reilly? He murdered two people for his brother and all he got to show for it was the Chair...
Black this may not count, but with all of the murderers contained in Oz I couldn't choose a character. I went with The Kitchen...I think more murder was plotted, attempted and committed in the kitchen than any other place within Oz.
Red I had to go with Karim Said on this one. Everyone in Oz had cause to be Angry, but only Said put it to any kind of use where it counts. He incited the riot due to his anger over the treatment of prisoners and ultimately it brought about some change.
Orange Who could it be but Ryan O'Reilly? He would do just about anything and work for anybody to make a quick buck or 2
Yellow Simon Adebisi was definitely the prisoner to fear in Oz. For all the crazy that lurked the halls, he was without question the craziest. He left you fearing for your life and "Prison virginity"
Green of course, Tim McManus. Held on so stubborn and steadfast to his dream of "Emerald City"...too bad he tested the experiment on the worst-of the-worst criminals in the whole Prison. Very ambitious
Blue I went with Sister Peter Marie. With all the counseling she tried to give these men she must have held on to some hope for their rehabilitation.
Indigo I chose Father Mukada; I think he's more of a realist than Sister Pete and knows that some of these men are beyond hope. Compassion is all he has to go on.
Violet Who's done more for love on this show than Cyril O'Reilly? He murdered two people for his brother and all he got to show for it was the Chair...
Black this may not count, but with all of the murderers contained in Oz I couldn't choose a character. I went with The Kitchen...I think more murder was plotted, attempted and committed in the kitchen than any other place within Oz.
#15
Posted Feb 8, 2010 @ 8:33 PM
Okay, I'd have pegged Ryan O'Reily as Black, myself. Even though he rarely killed anyone by his own hand, pretty much every death on the show was due almost entirely to his machinations.
As for Orange, I'd have gone with either Chris Keller (who went to great lengths to gain and keep control over Beecher for his own selfish reasons) or Governor Devlin (who constantly used the prison as a political tool to satisfy his lust for power).
As for Orange, I'd have gone with either Chris Keller (who went to great lengths to gain and keep control over Beecher for his own selfish reasons) or Governor Devlin (who constantly used the prison as a political tool to satisfy his lust for power).
Edited by The Mad Maple, Feb 8, 2010 @ 8:34 PM.
#16
Posted Feb 8, 2010 @ 8:49 PM
Just to clarify stuff, here are the Wiki entries for the various Corps. Just sto show what's in my head when I make my picks.
Red Lantern Corps
Larfleeze/Agent Orange
Sinestro Corps
Green Lantern Corps
Blue Lantern Corps
Indigo Tribe
Star Sapphires
Black Lanterns
Red Lantern Corps
Larfleeze/Agent Orange
Sinestro Corps
Green Lantern Corps
Blue Lantern Corps
Indigo Tribe
Star Sapphires
Black Lanterns
#17
Posted Feb 8, 2010 @ 8:50 PM
Ooh, Devlin is a great idea for Orange The Mad Maple! O'Reilly was my initial pick for Black (due to the reasons you cited below) but I was struggling with orange and remembered he was a greedy bastard too:)
#18
Posted Feb 9, 2010 @ 8:25 AM
This is funny! Here's an attempt with The Sopranos
Red: At firs I thought of Janice or Paulie, but then I realized that their rage was more a weakness than their strong suit. Someone like Furio, on the other hand, really used his violent temperament like a tool, so I guess I'll nominate him
Orange: Tony without a doubt: nothing was never really enough for the big guy: power, money, women, food...
Yellow: Richie Aprile. He really was all about the "respect", i.e. making people fear him... I mean, he wasn't even capable to have sex without pointing a gun at Janice's head!
Green: Svetlana. As Tony always said, she had gone trough more cr*p than any other character, and yet she always got back on her feet (no pun intended!)
Blue: Oh my, "hope" isn't an easy thing to find in this show! Maybe it's twisting the rules, but I'd say Johnny Sack. He pretty much ran Carmine's crew for years, all the time hoping that he would've become the next boss and reaped the fruit of his own work...
Indigo: Dr.Melfi. After all, it's her job, no?
Violet: Adriana. Everything she did, was to protect Christoper and be able to be with him (but, Christoper being Christoper, it brough her nothing but misery :( )
Black: Silvio. Almost all the characters in the show led extremely violent lives, but Sil was the real "professional", capable to clip people he had known and even loved like Pussy and Ade without even flinching...
Red: At firs I thought of Janice or Paulie, but then I realized that their rage was more a weakness than their strong suit. Someone like Furio, on the other hand, really used his violent temperament like a tool, so I guess I'll nominate him
Orange: Tony without a doubt: nothing was never really enough for the big guy: power, money, women, food...
Yellow: Richie Aprile. He really was all about the "respect", i.e. making people fear him... I mean, he wasn't even capable to have sex without pointing a gun at Janice's head!
Green: Svetlana. As Tony always said, she had gone trough more cr*p than any other character, and yet she always got back on her feet (no pun intended!)
Blue: Oh my, "hope" isn't an easy thing to find in this show! Maybe it's twisting the rules, but I'd say Johnny Sack. He pretty much ran Carmine's crew for years, all the time hoping that he would've become the next boss and reaped the fruit of his own work...
Indigo: Dr.Melfi. After all, it's her job, no?
Violet: Adriana. Everything she did, was to protect Christoper and be able to be with him (but, Christoper being Christoper, it brough her nothing but misery :( )
Black: Silvio. Almost all the characters in the show led extremely violent lives, but Sil was the real "professional", capable to clip people he had known and even loved like Pussy and Ade without even flinching...
Edited by Beautiful Leah, Feb 9, 2010 @ 8:26 AM.
#19
Posted Feb 9, 2010 @ 1:55 PM
I'd go with Carmela for this one. She poured her hope into AJ and especially Meadow that they would escape the shadow of organized crime and go on to legitimate careers. She even held a lot of hope for Tony becoming a better man and her marriage surviving. I've always been cynical about her character myself, but I can also look at her from a better perspective.Blue: Oh my, "hope" isn't an easy thing to find in this show! Maybe it's twisting the rules, but I'd say Johnny Sack. He pretty much ran Carmine's crew for years, all the time hoping that he would've become the next boss and reaped the fruit of his own work...
#20
Posted May 16, 2012 @ 10:32 PM
Bumping this up. I get ideas for sketches all the time. I can't act on them because I can't draw for spit, so I get them drawn by artists at comic book shows and conventions. Last year, I got characters from South Park sketched; specifically, characters in their "Coon & Friends" alter egos. Now I'm thinking of casting them as Lanterns. Here's what I got so far:
Red: Mr. Hat
Not obvious, I know, and he's been absent for a long time, especially since "200" was buried by Comedy Central. Yeah, he's been phased out, but imagine a red ring floating towards Mr. Garrison, saying that Mr. Hat belongs to the Red Lantern Corps. Mr. Garrison is puzzled, until he sees Mr. Hat back on his hand. My visual. Mr. Hat flying through the cosmos and puking red napalm, while Mr. Garrison is dragged behind, screaming the whole way.
Orange: Eric Cartman
Cartman gets pissed off a lot, but he's at his best/worst when he's scheming to get what he wants.
Yellow: Trent Boyett
He's a one-shot character from "Kindegarten." In seeking revenge for how the boys did him wrong, Trent let nothing stand in his way . .. not even a few dozen fifth-graders paid off to put a hurt on him. In the end, he got sent back to juvie, but I can't think of anybody who inspires more fear.
Green: Stan Marsh & Kyle Broflovski
Is it too big a copout to give GL status to two characters?
Blue: Timmy Burch & Jimmy Valmer
And who better to represent hope than South Park's two most visible "handi-capable" citizens?
Indigo: Leopold "Butters" Stotch
This might be a stretch, but I'm thinking it fits for somebody who (naively) thinks the best of most everybody he comes across.
Violet: Wendy Testaberger
Actually, this has less to do with having love and more to do about Wendy's default outfit being purple. Plan A is Mrs. Cartman, since she's a ginormus slut.
Black Lanterns
Obviously, they're led by Chef. Behind him: Ms. Crabtree and Ms. Chokesondick. The army: about one hundred of Kenny's corpses.
White: Kenny McCormick
Who better to represent life than the kid who keeps coming back from the dead? In my mind, it's Kenny as a White Lantern, not Mysterion.
ETA: Apparently, it has been a long time since this thread had been visited, given that I never brought up the White Lanterns. The concept was introduced at the end of Blackest Night, and Boston Brand got to be one -- reluctantly -- during Brightest Day.
Red: Mr. Hat
Not obvious, I know, and he's been absent for a long time, especially since "200" was buried by Comedy Central. Yeah, he's been phased out, but imagine a red ring floating towards Mr. Garrison, saying that Mr. Hat belongs to the Red Lantern Corps. Mr. Garrison is puzzled, until he sees Mr. Hat back on his hand. My visual. Mr. Hat flying through the cosmos and puking red napalm, while Mr. Garrison is dragged behind, screaming the whole way.
Orange: Eric Cartman
Cartman gets pissed off a lot, but he's at his best/worst when he's scheming to get what he wants.
Yellow: Trent Boyett
He's a one-shot character from "Kindegarten." In seeking revenge for how the boys did him wrong, Trent let nothing stand in his way . .. not even a few dozen fifth-graders paid off to put a hurt on him. In the end, he got sent back to juvie, but I can't think of anybody who inspires more fear.
Green: Stan Marsh & Kyle Broflovski
Is it too big a copout to give GL status to two characters?
Blue: Timmy Burch & Jimmy Valmer
And who better to represent hope than South Park's two most visible "handi-capable" citizens?
Indigo: Leopold "Butters" Stotch
This might be a stretch, but I'm thinking it fits for somebody who (naively) thinks the best of most everybody he comes across.
Violet: Wendy Testaberger
Actually, this has less to do with having love and more to do about Wendy's default outfit being purple. Plan A is Mrs. Cartman, since she's a ginormus slut.
Black Lanterns
Obviously, they're led by Chef. Behind him: Ms. Crabtree and Ms. Chokesondick. The army: about one hundred of Kenny's corpses.
White: Kenny McCormick
Who better to represent life than the kid who keeps coming back from the dead? In my mind, it's Kenny as a White Lantern, not Mysterion.
ETA: Apparently, it has been a long time since this thread had been visited, given that I never brought up the White Lanterns. The concept was introduced at the end of Blackest Night, and Boston Brand got to be one -- reluctantly -- during Brightest Day.
Edited by Lantern7, May 19, 2012 @ 2:13 AM.
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