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[cutecouple]

Theoretically, this sequel will come around on June 29, 2012, as per this TrekMovie post. Maybe JJ Abrams will direct, maybe he won't. It looks like he has a full plate though.

[chancellorjake]

I have no idea what Orci, Kurtzman, and Lindelof are planning for the second film, but I hope that they stay far away from Khan Noonien Singh and the other sleepers on the SS Botany Bay.
I'd like to see some follow-up on the destruction of Vulcan. Some information on how many were able to escape the cataclysm and how are they being resettled would be nice. It would be nice to see how the Romulans responded to the destruction of Vulcan, as well.

Finally, I would really enjoy seeing a minor sub-plot involving Harcourt Fenton Mudd and his dear wife Stella.

[akg]

I want more Bones. There wasn't nearly enough McCoy in the last one.

[pillboxhat]

I think Kate Mulgrew did an interview indicating she would like the crew of Voyager to be involved in the sequel. Now, that (if done properly) could be worth the price of a ticket.

[akg]

I'd rather see the cast of DS9. If there are more tribbles, it would even make sense.

[cutecouple]

Now, that (if done properly) could be worth the price of a ticket.

That would be one heck of a trick.

[akg]

Some information about the villain here (mostly who it won't be and a list of possibilities).

...the film's story has now been settled, and "won't focus on a traditional villain type at all", but that it will feature a character (or characters) from Star Trek's first season.

Edited by akg, Oct 26, 2010 @ 3:52 AM.

[chancellorjake]

I'm really glad that they aren't going the Khan route. It's been done really well and I don't want to have to compare any nuTrek to TWoK.

[akg]

I'm really glad that they aren't going the Khan route. It's been done really well and I don't want to have to compare any nuTrek to TWoK

I agree but I'm not too sure about their list. Trelane was better as Q (in my opinion), the Horta just wouldn't be the same in CG, we've seen the Talosians twice (and they seem more suited to tv to me), and I hated Harry Mudd (slavery is not funny (but he doesn't really seem like a big screen villain either)). That leaves Gary. Which could work but I wish they'd mentioned him in XI.

[SnippyScholar]

Oh, boy! I am glad they are doing another one with this cast. I would love to see the Voyager cast--the EMH and Seven and Janeway especially. Think of the possibilities. And tribbles would be great, too.

I was prepared for the worst with the new Star Trek and was very pleasantly surprised. Now my old anxiety is back that they will muck this one up! I just hope they have the same great humor that they had in the first one.

I could totally go for Harcourt Fenton Mudd. Oh, please please please please please please please.

[akg]

More on the movie here. Nothing concrete of course.

Kurtzman contrasts the first movie, which was essentially an origin story, with the new one: “It becomes about this family that’s together, so now it becomes about the thing that shakes them up and challenges them.”

I love that they consider the crew a family.

Says Orci, “Whereas the last movie was all about breaking free from Star Trek and its canon, now that we can do whatever we want, we still want it to feel like good ol’ Star Trek even though it’s a new story.”

[chancellorjake]

*blows dust of thread*
Next film may be delayed until December 2012.
They only have 13 months to begin filming and complete post-production for the film. JJ Abrams filmed his new film Super 8 in less time, but that would seem to be pretty daunting for a Star Trek film.

[BDArizona]

Says Orci, “Whereas the last movie was all about breaking free from Star Trek and its canon, now that we can do whatever we want, we still want it to feel like good ol’ Star Trek even though it’s a new story.”

Just came across this thread: Bingo! He's just put into words why I hate ST XI. It was about "breaking free from Star Trek," not being Star Trek. How 'bouts if you have no respect for the franchise and its canon, you go find an original idea? Oh, yeah, I forgot...you don't want to respect it, but you do want the ready made name recognition that comes with the franchise, because you have a built-in audience to fall back on if everything else goes to shit. More Abrams and company? Fuck that. Won't pay for the ticket.

Edited by BDArizona, Jun 12, 2011 @ 3:41 PM.

[cutecouple]

I wonder if, in this or some future movie, T'Pring might make an appearance.

[chancellorjake]

She and Stonn were probably killed when Vulcan imploded.

The rumors are that production on this film has been pushed back until early next year. Which means that it won't be in theaters next summer. The release date will probably be pushed back to Winter 2012, or Summer 2013 which would be four years since the last film.

[NMdum1]

I think Kate Mulgrew did an interview indicating she would like the crew of Voyager to be involved in the sequel. Now, that (if done properly) could be worth the price of a ticket.

What? Huh? Sorry to break it to you love, but Voyager effectively doesn't exist in this timeline. Tuvok almost certainly wasn't born for a start. And do we really want to see Jim Kirk trying to bed Seven? Yes, her response would be priceless but that's hardly the point. And to be really blunt, Paramount never gave Voyager so much as a post-getting home t.v. movie for a reason, they weren't good enough. Beyond the Doctor and Seven what real personalities are there in that bland little group, really? Who wants to see Chakotay on the big screen? Who actually thinks that you'll get close to a complete group together now? Some of them have far better things, like blossoming directorial/production careers, to do than a glorified cameo. Get real.

I know, harsh, but the truth is they can do literally anything right up to and including a more primitive version of the Borg, just as a random example. Effectively, they've done their own thing, "broken free" literally and figuratively with the past franchise the minute they decided it was a good idea to blow up Vulcan. It's not going to be Star Trek XII guys, its Star Trek II, everything else, 596 episodes and 10 movies that effectively don't exist anymore or if they do, they're only for the nerds that care about obscure details or continuity. This is way beyond whatever DC comic books may have done with multiple universes because this is the only universe that they acknowledge at present, probably ever. Intergrating anything else from the prime universe with this now would only confuse things for cinema viewers who thought that the last movie was Star Trek, or was in some way representative, which as it happens, I don't think it was at all. I don't think that we, the hardcore Trekkie, aren't the market for Trek movies anymore, its the general audience, the teen market especially, who will ship Spock and Uhura, and who can just about work out what a Klingon and a phaser is but nothing more. Fine, fair enough, whatever, but I can't see myself getting anymore enthused than I was last time, regardless of whatever stunts they pull this time.

[John Potts]

Thinking about DS9, I wonder if they might make the Vulcans the new Bajorans? However many Vulcans there are, they will be a people without a home (though it's hard to imagine Vulcan terrorists, even if DS9 did have one). And it's bound to have a destabilising effect on the Alpha Quadrant (you'd imagine one effect will be a more aggressive Romulan Empire), even if the Vulcans weren't very expansionist.

[akg]

Abrams (who finally confirmed in september that he'll be directing) is talking to Benicio del Toro about being the villain.

This being Abrams, there’s a natural cloud of secrecy wrapped around the details of the role: though Del Toro has apparently met with Abrams about playing it, he wasn’t actually told all the details. We have visions of him making an agreement, then being sealed in a chamber with no windows and poor ventilation while he reads the script under the watchful eye of a CCTV system, before depositing it in a furnace and being mind-wiped on his way out.

[akg]

We have a date. Star Trek 2 will be released (at least here in the US) on May 17, 2013 (which is still way too far away). The other news in that article that I'm not super excited about is:

The big news on the Trek front is that Abrams will be making it his first stab at 3D filmmaking, which means the Enterprise will be warping RIGHT INTO YOUR FACE. Okay, hopefully not: Abrams knows what he’s doing. But we are little concerned about 3D lens flare burning our retinas out.

[chancellorjake]

Our first bit of casting news. A blond bombshell chosen for a new non-canon role. Perhaps in a supporting role to the villain.

[akg]

Peter Weller has been added also. Not surprisingly, there's no word on who he'll play. He's already spent some time on Trek as Paxton on Enterprise (which I don't remember at all).

[chancellorjake]

Paxton on Enterprise (which I don't remember at all).

He was the leader of Terra Prime, the xenophobic villains, on the last two episodes of Enterprise. He was really good in that role.

So, it looks like Del Toro won't be playing the villain in the new movie. They couldn't reach an agreement on money.
Also, some rumors swirling that the villain will be Khan.

[HauntedBathroom]

He was the leader of Terra Prime, the xenophobic villains, on the last two episodes of Enterprise.

Last two? Try as hard as you can, there's no erasing TATV!

[chancellorjake]

TATV? Terribly Awful Traitorous Vision? I truly don't know what you are talking about.

[akg]

The next movie will be shot in 2D and then converted to 3D.

"We'll do a good high-end conversion," Abrams promises. "It'll be like the Harry Potter movie and all that. Luckily we have the months needed to do it right because if you rush it, it never looks good." The director also reveals that IMAX is on the cards, although nothing has yet been confirmed: "IMAX is my favourite format; I'm a huge fan. I would love to do it."

I'm not a huge fan of 3D so don't really care either way and haven't read much on how the post-converted HP turned out.

[cutecouple]

This will be awful. Proper 3D movies are shot in 3D first.

[chancellorjake]

Ugh! Such a bad idea. The Clash of the Titans remake was converted (at the last minute) and many felt that the horrible/painful results killed it faster at the box office. If Abrams wants Trek in 3-D then he needs to shoot in 3-D.

Edited by chancellorjake, Jan 2, 2012 @ 12:51 AM.

[benteen]

Totally agree. If JJ Abrams actually thinks that the 3D conversion of the last Harry Potter film was actually good, then my opinion of him as a filmmaker has diminished. The "3D" on Harry Potter was almost nonexistent and I'm convinced that it's the reason the movie looks so dark on regular DVD. Absolutely awful.

I won't see a 3D film if it's not shot in 3D. Avatar and Hugo were shot in 3D and looked great in 3D. Harry Potter was converted to 3D and it showed. The only converted 3D film I've seen that looked good was Thor.

[Brave Sir Robin]

I won't see a 3D film period. So, good.

[nelamm]

Oh, my. Benedict Cumberbatch. Sherlock Holmes, Smaug & Sauron, and now Trek. As someone said in the Sherlock forums, they just need to put him into Doctor Who (and there are already multiple connections there), and she'll turn into crazy stalking fangirl.