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[Wolf]

As the "Thing One and Thing Two" thread has been properly closed with the further development of these characters...more particularly Brittany...we might as well have one for our Machiavellian latina Cheerio.

They aren't doing a lot with her right now other than having her be the most relentlessly antagonistic of the Glee Club infiltrators, but I feel she may be being kept in reserve for a future season. After all, once Quinn's expected conversion is complete, there will need to be another Big Bad. Santana might just be the Adversary for Season Two.

[MboyHobbs]

Love it!

I actually had a feeling from the start that Quinn wasn't the antagonist that she was being portrayed as, and Santana would end up being the rival. Quinn'll be a full-fledged Gleek after this whole mess is through, and where does that leave Santana? We've seen that Brittany doesn't give a damn who she's hanging out with, but our latino here is more superficial than that. She wants popularity, and I imagine she's not going to be happy with losing it because of Glee.

[Wolf]

Oh, she's got a great deal more to be pissed off about than just having her social status hung on the petard of Glee Club. After all, she dumped a guy for not having potential who is gradually being shown to have a good deal of potential, and now she's watching him move right on to knocking boots with first Rachel and now Quinn, her erstwhile best "friend." With nary a backward glance in her direction, and even when the women do the dumping, many of them fucking hate that. There's a reason it's called the best revenge.

But that doesn't even touch what I think is the main source of her upcoming rage. Quinn, her "friend," really her leader, her general, I again think is a dead lock to become a Glee Club soldier, leaving her former troops behind. Nothing inspires raw hatred like being abandoned by the object of your devoted service. I can totally see Santana screaming at Quinn: "We were about elitism, about abnegation of the existence of lesser beings, and you went native on us! You dared to care about them!"

God, she'd be like a Mephistopheles for the modern age.

[MboyHobbs]

That is exactly why I want this to happen so badly. Quinn might be a bitch, but she's got redeeming qualities (I can see them, at least), but Santana here? All we've seen from her is dumping Puck because of his credit score, manipulating the Gleeks for Sue (which Quinn did as well, but it was to keep her boyfriend. What did Santana have to gain from it?), send glares in Rachel's direction (and everyone else's for that matter), and make a horrid joke to Kurt about being gay.

In fact, the only good quality I can see is her ability to tolerate how dumb Brittany is. Even Quinn can't do that. Although, she was bitching nonstop last episode, so her comment at the bake sale table might have been out of irritation for life in general.

I do love your comparison to Mephistopheles. I wouldn't have recognized it myself, but it fits so beautifully. As does your theory about what will flip her. I completely agree. Quinn's the one that probably got them all so concerned with status in the first place, so that's a major source of backstabbing by her best friend.

[TWoP Gadget]

Not sold on the thread title, but if y'all come up with something better (or really like this one), I'm open.

[cruiscinlan]

Not sold on the thread title, but if y'all come up with something better (or really like this one), I'm open.

I find this thread title... confusing. Someone mentioned in the other thread "You must have a credit score of 700 to post" or her "bougie" quote as ideas. I could also go for "Santana Lopez: You can see her ovaries."

[Hours Left]

I love Santana's general disdain for everything. I'm interested to know more about her relationship with Brittany & Quinn.

RE: Title:

While I appreciate the reference, I don't think the title really jives well with the format of the rest of them.

I liked the "bougie" title from the other thread.

[The Sarcaster]

She is a decent face-expression actor too. In the Diva-Off, when Kurt sings the line "you can't bring me down" at Rachel, Santana seems to smirk for a second and then her face changes to a sort of unsure look. Did anyone notice that? Also, what did that mean? Just curious if anyone else caught that.

[TWoP Gadget]

There ya go. Yay, nay, let me know.

[The Sarcaster]

Speaking for myself, that title doesn't quite resonate with me. Isn't Bougie a slang form of bourgeois? Not sure how bake sales are bourgeois. Perhaps something like:

Santana Lopez : Black Magic Woman

After all, right now, she is the queen of darkness for the group, at least during Quinn's pregnancy.

Edited by The Sarcaster, Nov 14, 2009 @ 1:37 PM.

[Wolf]

I'm not wild about "bougie fever" either. Although I appreciate the cleverness of tying the thread title to Carlos Santana's music, I'm lukewarm about "Black Magic Woman" because it might come off as some sort of (inaccurate) comment on her ethnicity. Sigh...the problem is that she really hasn't done much other than be a snake in the grass so far.

Maybe we should keep it simple, something like "Santana: I Find You All Ridiculous."

[Rinslet]

There ya go. Yay, nay, let me know.

I liked Maximum Taco's suggestion in the Brittany thread:

Santana Lopez: Your Credit Rating must be at least 700 to post.

[MboyHobbs]

She is a decent face-expression actor too. In the Diva-Off, when Kurt sings the line "you can't bring me down" at Rachel, Santana seems to smirk for a second and then her face changes to a sort of unsure look. Did anyone notice that? Also, what did that mean? Just curious if anyone else caught that.

I was really confused about that look at first, because it seemed so random. Kurt looks at Rachel while singing, which makes Santana happy? Didn't make sense to me. But now that I think about it, it would kind of fit if she's still trying to break up the Glee club for Coach Sylvester (or for herself) and thinks she may have found a way to accomplish that.

[The Sarcaster]

Santana Lopez: Your Credit Rating must be at least 700 to post

That's a winner in my book!

Edited by The Sarcaster, Nov 14, 2009 @ 10:21 PM.

[anele]

I'm another who thinks the credit rating quote would be good. Although is it too long?

[Maximum Taco]

I liked Maximum Taco's suggestion in the Brittany thread:

Santana Lopez: Your Credit Rating must be at least 700 to post.

I agree, Maximum Taco has good suggestions. <shifty eyes>

[myintermail]

I prefer the "You Can See Her Ovaries" subtitle. But that's a bit provocative.

Second choice for me is the credit rating one.

[TWoP Gadget]

OK, done. We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic, already in progress.

[fashionkills]

I would prefer for Santana to not be an enemy character. Whilst I would like to see her character become a little bit of an antagonist in the future, I think they should write her in an endearing way, and certainly that episode where she is truly glad the boys chose glee club over football is indicative of that.

[Firefly fan]

I love her friendship with Brittany. It's the only time she's nice. And she's so long-suffering! I loved her patiently listening to how ballads are male ducks who hide in hats this week, and her leaning over to pull Brittany's arm down without even looking, after the oath last week. Hilarious and adorable with vague LesYay undertones. Yeah I said it.

[MDKNIGHT]

I actually had a feeling from the start that Quinn wasn't the antagonist that she was being portrayed as, and Santana would end up being the rival

This and recent joshing about the Santana/Brittany relationship had me thinking. IIRC a recurring subplot in a series called Profit was that the assistant to Jim Profit was this really good guy who SOMEHOW thought that Jim was a good person who would use his influence to help people. Jim Profit was diabolically evil. IIRC there was always an effort on Jim's part to never let the assistant who hero worhipped him find out what he was really doing. So I flashed to Santana being Sue Sylvestor's Mini Me and poor sweet Brittany loving her and looking up to her and just never comprehending what Santana was doing and Santana for her part having a soft spot for Brittany and shielding her from her ugliness so as to not lose her love.

[DropEdge]

The best part about "Hairography" was that Santana got to wear her hair down during Imagine. She's stunning when she ditches the ponytail.

[Secret Symphony]

Wow, I really noticed how gorgeous this girl is when she finally was allowed to wear her beautiful hair down in Hairography. She has always been this pretty but I don't know why I never really noticed it before til now. Now that I realize, even when she has her hair slicked back? Still gorgeous.

I would be quick to scream a WTF as far as Santana/Puck goes and her reaction to Quinn had Glee not had her give Rachel total bitch face during the Sweet Caroline performance so good job Glee with that subtlety.

[myintermail]

I would be quick to scream a WTF as far as Santana/Puck goes and her reaction to Quinn had Glee not had her give Rachel total bitch face during the Sweet Caroline performance so good job Glee with that subtlety.

I thought Santana dumped Puck for his credit score (hence the thread title)... So why does she get all upset when he's with someone else?

[sueli769]

I thought Santana dumped Puck for his credit score (hence the thread title)... So why does she get all upset when he's with someone else?

I do not know many girls/women who are happy when their ex is seeing/dating/interested in someone who is a their friend.

[Rinslet]

I thought Santana dumped Puck for his credit score (hence the thread title)... So why does she get all upset when he's with someone else?

:P You never date your friend's ex. Ever.

That and I always felt Puck/Santana has this on again/off again relationship... or at least they like hooking up with each other occasionally. :P

[LizzieKath]

Plus, there's a difference between dumping because you aren't interested in the person anymore and dumping for Another Reason (like... credit score...) WHen you dump becasue someone is pissing you off royally, you'll be less likely to still be open to a possible re-negotiation than when the other factor begins to seem less important - perhaps in light of one's current hormonal status.

Plus, Santana and Puck? hawt. We didn't get enough the first time around.

While I hate the gosh-what-does-that-youngster-slang-mean explanations the writers INSIST on including ("gee, what's a mash-up, mommy?"), Santana did a delightfully disdainful job with hers.

[Maximum Taco]

That and I always felt Puck/Santana has this on again/off again relationship... or at least they like hooking up with each other occasionally. :P

I fully agree. Santana seems like the type of girl who'd dump someone for a totally arbitrary reason and then be hooking up with him again later that same day. Picture the relationship that Elaine had with David Puddy in Seinfeld.

Edited by Maximum Taco, Dec 2, 2009 @ 6:44 PM.

[BuddhaBelly]

I really want to know more about this girl, but we probably won't ever. She's just so interesting because WHAT 16 yr old think about credit scores and the like. It makes me wonder if her family has had financial issues and she's all 'never again' or someone in her family deals with finances.

[cruiscinlan]

I really want to know more about this girl, but we probably won't ever. She's just so interesting because WHAT 16 yr old think about credit scores and the like. It makes me wonder if her family has had financial issues and she's all 'never again' or someone in her family deals with finances.

I ain't saying she's a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke... well, you get the drift.