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[Jabbas]

This is kind of late but what was Zach to Stefan and Damon? Was he related to them somehow?

[cjardine]

His exact relationship to the brothers was never clarified but given that Zach's surname was Salvatore, he has to be a descendant of some branch of the family and the Joseph Salvatore killed by Damon in the 50s was probably his grandfather.

[Sweeney555]

Zach was a Salvatore, definitely related to Stefan and Damon. He referred to Stefan as his uncle a couple of times. He never used that title with Damon, but I think it was more out of dislike than to imply that he wasn't related to Damon the same way he is to Stefan. The exact nature of the relationship, who Zach is descended from, and how many generations are between himself and Stefan and Damon has never been specified.

[Jabbas]

Damon killed on of his own relatives? Why?

Sorry for all the questions, the first couple of episodes were kind of a blur.

[thelephant]

Damon killed Zach partly because he found out that Zach was growing vervain and partly because Zach was trying to stop him from killing people at Mystic Falls by drugging and imprisoning him. Presumably he killed Joseph for similar reasons.

Plus, Damon just really likes to kill people.

[Jabbas]

Thanks everyone, I promise to be more observant.

[femlyn2]

Questions (ep. 1): Can someone expain the meaning of and tell me if you have actually ever heard the phrase "go mainline coffee." Is mainline an adjective modifying coffee or is it a verb phrase?

Edited by TWoP Barnes, Jan 18, 2010 @ 3:03 PM.

[cyberducks]

Mainlining explanation -mainlining = injecting illegal drugs.

So mainlining coffee is a play on that - you like your coffee so much that you mainline it, or "go, mainline your coffee".

[femlyn2]

In the "Out for Blood" game, I believe Bonnie's aunt is listed as Emily Bennett. However, now we know she was (at least at some time) known as Sheila Bennett. Did people think she was Emily because it was said or because of the books? Is she really called Sheila today?
*Oh, my mistake, Emily is the possessing one. I guess we forgot Sheila in the game!

Edited by femlyn2, Jan 24, 2010 @ 8:32 AM.

[bluegray73]

Speaking of Grams's name, I recall seeing her listed as "Tituba Bennett" on several cast lists/guest star lists, which I thought was a horrific name. Anyone in Mystic Falls familiar with The Crucible would have to have at least some kind of suspicions about her. Sheila is a much, much better name, but I have to wonder where in the heck "Tituba" came from. I don't remember it ever being said on the show.

[JennyLiz]

Bringing this over from the episode thread...

I thought this shut-down-the-whole-program reaction, which is pretty unrealistic, was a way to keep Matt in Mystic Falls after graduation. No football scholarship means no college for him, so he has to stay in town and presumably take part in all the plotty goodnesss.

This may have been mentioned before, and if it was I apologize, but how old/what grade are our characters in? I think they're all the same age (Elena, Bonnie, Caroline, Matt, Stefan--in terms of the grade he's in), but I don't remember if they're supposed to be juniors or seniors or what. And I wonder what our plot contrivance will be to keep them all together? So Matt can't get a football scholarship--what about the rest of our cast?

[Sweeney555]

Stefan is supposed to be 17, so I think the other characters are around that age too, and I'm thinking juniors because nobody has mentioned college applications or anything. Jeremy I'm not sure, maybe 15 or 16.

As for how they stay together, I think Bonnie's grandma teaches at a local college/university, so the characters that survive could go there and presumably still live at home in Mystic Falls. Like on Buffy, when everybody except Xander ended up at Sunnydale U. That's one possible plot contrivance.

[Amester0120]

Random question: We know the Fells, Forbes, Gilberts and Lockwoods were part of the founding families and that the Bennetts are from Salem. But has there been any indication that the Donovans were among the founding families? She's the Sheriff said she went to high school with Matt and Vicki's mother but we don't know anything about their father. Just wondering if I'm just forgetful or has it not been mentioned?

[Sweeney555]

It hasn't been mentioned. But it would be a good way to draw Matt into the central plotline, and perhaps, by extension, Caroline, if the Donovans were one of the founding families.

[Morrigan8472]

Isn't Caroline in it already by virtue of being a Forbes?

[ShortTimer]

From the episode thread:

This ep confirmed to me that Alaric might die. He is basically new at the whole vampire-hunting thing

This may be a dumb question, but I'm really confused about Alaric. They've made a deal in past episodes about whether or not Jenna invited him into the house, and there was one where he was kind of urgently searching for a ring in his car ... both of which made me believe he's a vampire, too, though he was out in daylight without the ring on. Hence, my confusion. Is Alaric a vampire? And then he's also hunting because of his wife? Or am I getting him confused with someone else?

[tip and fall]

Is Alaric a vampire?

We don't know for sure yet, but I personally am leaning towards no*. The incidents you mentioned could very well have been red herrings because you know how shows like to mess with our minds and keep us guessing. :) I don't recall seeing him in daylight except for that one time in the car.

* I suck at predicting plot twists though, so you may not want to listen to me.

Edited by tip and fall, Feb 5, 2010 @ 8:21 PM.

[ShortTimer]

OK - thanks! I thought maybe I had missed something.

Edited by ShortTimer, Feb 5, 2010 @ 9:37 PM.

[clooless]

Random question: We know the Fells, Forbes, Gilberts and Lockwoods were part of the founding families and that the Bennetts are from Salem. But has there been any indication that the Donovans were among the founding families? She's the Sheriff said she went to high school with Matt and Vicki's mother but we don't know anything about their father. Just wondering if I'm just forgetful or has it not been mentioned?

Nope, it's not been mentioned so far. I think they would've made note of it by now if the Donovans were a founding family. The likeliest explanation seems to be that the Donovans moved in to Mystic Falls a generation or two back. We know nothing about Matt and Vicki's father (except that he's MIA), so we don't even know if "Donovan" is his name. It could be that the kids have taken their mother's maiden name.

Is Alaric a vampire? And then he's also hunting because of his wife? Or am I getting him confused with someone else?

I don't know how exactly Vervain works, but could a vampire have held it in his hand without getting burnt/sizzled/whatever it is Vervain does to vampires? Plus, the one time we've seen Alaric out in the daylight, he wasn't wearing the ring, so I'm pretty sure he's not a vampire. Then again, this show likes to mess with us, so you never know. ;)

Edited by clooless, Feb 6, 2010 @ 2:11 AM.

[ShortTimer]

I don't know how exactly Vervain works, but could a vampire have held it in his hand without getting burnt/sizzled/whatever it is Vervain does to vampires?

Very good point. When Katherine poured the elixir on herself it burned her. Plus, can a vampire compel another one? Doesn't seem like Alaric would need vervain if he were a vampire himself.

[lovethesarcasm]

My memory's a little foggy on one thing: Do we know who turned Stefan and Damon? And in what circumstances they were changed?

For some reason I feel like Katherine turned them both, but how would she do that when she was supposed to be stuck in the tomb? Or it's possible that my brain just made that up.

[JennyLiz]

Do we know who turned Stefan and Damon? And in what circumstances they were changed?

For some reason I feel like Katherine turned them both, but how would she do that when she was supposed to be stuck in the tomb? Or it's possible that my brain just made that up.

lovethesarcasm, I think that current speculation is that the boys somehow had Katherine's blood in them when they were shot and killed, thus becoming vamps. The show has yet to confirm this, though.

[Maxbird]

I think that current speculation is that the boys somehow had Katherine's blood in them when they were shot and killed, thus becoming vamps. The show has yet to confirm this, though.

So glad I found this thread because I was about to beg for information and now see that others are wondering the same thing. I thought we were always advised Katherine turned both of them and in tonight's rerun it was clear that was her intention and then there was the "walking in daylight" thing, courtesy, I think, of Bonnie's relative, who was Katherine's friend/slave/helper? or something. In any case, I never thought about it much until this rerun where we see Katherine & Co. being herded off to be entombed and neither of the boys had been turned at that point. I think the writing on this show is way too good for this to be a glitch or dropped plot point but sure hope they address this in the very near future. BTW, and another dumb question - the boys were shot and killed when and how? Thanks in advance.

[Crim]

Right now it's assumed, based on some lines I can't quote off the top of my head, that they died at the church, trying to save Katherine/protesting the killing/sth like that. There's speculation Papa Salvatore offed them.

[shirarose1]

Does anyone know anything about Stefan and Damon's mother?

[femlyn2]

Cars.

So, from someone more into cars than I - what kind of cars have we seen?

Sorry, but I pretty much only know Bonnie's.

Bonnie - Blue / White Prius
Damon - Blue (mustang, camero or corvette?) I really should know better.
Stephen - Cherry Red (British import?)
Elena #1 - (SUV)
Elena #2 - Red Mini (or is this Jenna's still?)

Thanks.

Edited by femlyn2, Apr 13, 2010 @ 10:01 PM.

[Sweeney555]

Does anyone know anything about Stefan and Damon's mother?

To date, most of the focus has been on Papa Salvatore. I don't think Mama Salvatore has been mentioned. When Stefan was digging up his father's grave to get to the grimoire, there was no mention of his mother being buried beside his father, the logical place.

I'd hazard a guess that she succumbed to illness or died in childbirth long before Bitefest 1864, but we really don't know.

[hardcoreWWnut]

Re Cars:
Stefan's beauty is a 1963 Porsche 356 =).

Elena's SUV was a Ford Escape I believe; not sure what year it was.

there was no mention of his mother being buried beside his father, the logical place.

Good point! I never thought about that but it's interesting that her grave was not shown.

[femlyn2]

Have we met any Fell's yet - either in 1864 for today? I can't recall any, so I'm wondering when they will be introduced.

Pearl conveyed to Fredrick that Anna said that the townspeople, Gilbert / Lockwood / Fell, are the same.

[Sedruol]

We met Logan Fell, Jenna's ex who had a brief stint as a vampire before being taken out by the Salvatore's