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[TWoP Roxy]

From zap2it.com:

Demetri and Mark travel to Utah in search of a suspect who might be connected to the global blackout; Olivia runs into the man from her vision.

[12916studios]

This show has just gotten infinitely more interesting.

[CtLady]

So...Dimitri is Lost's Charlie ("you're gonna die, brutha")

The daughter is creeping me out.

[aprilgirl]

Wow. Love it. This show is great.

[AimingforYoko]

"D. Gibbons is a bad man." Damn, this show knows how to end an ep.
So the one quibble I had with the pilot, how the LA FBI field office is riding point on the investigation, is handily dispensed with in the first ten minutes. Well done, show.
And how creepy were the hanging dolls?

[Audacity]

"D. Gibbons is a bad man!" Damn, that's the second time they've given me chills at the end. So is D. Gibbons - woman version - Suspect 1?

Creepy doll parts -- I knew they'd be evil! They always are. Just like clowns.

No kangaroo this week. What's up with that?

ETA - Apparently AimingforYoko and I are reading each others' minds. Or we "saw" the same thing at the same time. Creepy!

Edited by Audacity, Oct 1, 2009 @ 8:07 PM.

[12916studios]

Given that Charlie said "bad man", I think it is safe to assume that she meant Suspect One.

And seriously, those doll parts were the creepiest thing I've seen on TV since that episode of Threshold involving plants, blood, and if I remember correctly, teeth. Interestingly enough, Brannon Braga helmed that show too. David S. Goyer was also involved with it.

Edited by 12916studios, Oct 1, 2009 @ 8:14 PM.

[ScarletPrincess]

I liked last week, but this week has really got me hooked.

[marko52]

All right! Shohreh Agdashloo as the creepy voice from the shadows who tells Agent Noh when he's going to die. I haven't been this creeped out by a female character since Season 4 of "24," when SA played Dina Araz.

Edited by marko52, Oct 1, 2009 @ 8:12 PM.

[Roll the dice]

For me although I liked the premiere, I thought that this episode was better. I think that it was cool in that it introduced a lot more of the mythology of the show.

Favorite parts included the sheriff mentioning that she didn't have a FF then dying, I think that for Demetri it just reinstates his fear. I still don't believe that Demetri will be dying. As the season goes on I am speculating that Demetri will become a greater part of this conspiracy. The lady he called won't see him die, but I think that he will be in the control of people that are on the bad side. Since they don't want the FF information to get back to his previous self, they drugged him during the FF time and thus, no FF and no dead Demetri. I kind of think that Janis will also be at this place during for FF and that it won't be the last time that we see the gyno.

I loved the directors FF of waking up in the bathroom and then having to give mouth to mouth to a man that was drowning in the urinal. It was good that they were able to add some humor to the show. It is one of the reasons I like LOST, so I am really hopeful based on this exchange, that they will also be able to infuse humor in the show every once in awhile.

I don't remember where was the credit card purchase for?

For me the butterflies on the wall in the daughters room ringed symbolic, I think that we will be dealing with an Alt Universe. That's what butterflies seem to signal to me.

Edited by Roll the dice, Oct 1, 2009 @ 8:54 PM.

[12916studios]

This show really knows how to work it. There were so many "holy shit" moments that I don't even know what to do with myself.

Just to mention a few:

-- "D. Gibbons is a bad man."
-- The sheeple children playing a game of Blackout.
-- Dylan. There's something about that kid that seriously skeeves me.
-- Doll parts. Those freaking doll parts!
-- D.Gibbons/Suspect One's explosive man-cave.
-- Shohreh Aghdashloo telling Demetri he's be murdered.
-- Suspect Zero and Suspect One are BFFs.

It hasn't been since Lost began that a show had me NEEDING to talk about it. And seriously, show, way to rock the multi-cliffhanger.

Edited by 12916studios, Oct 1, 2009 @ 11:53 PM.

[angelaudie]

I'm going into my happy denial bubble and repeatedly tell myself that Noh is not going to die. After all, they showed us a woman that had no vision die and Shohreh Agdashloo told us he's going to die. Therefore it's all one big red herring and he's going to live! Right? RIGHT?!

I already find dolls creepy but those dolls were really creepy!

"D. Gibbons is a bad man!" *shudders* Man, Charlie's vision might be worse than her dad's and that's saying something!

Maybe it's because I have the maturity of a 12 year old but I was laughing the whole time Courtney B Vance was giving Mark the details of his vision and what happened after the blackout. Mark looked like he was going to crack up any minute! I wonder if that's because Fiennes was having trouble holding it together?

[Aden Blue]

The bowel movement/urinal drowning/mouth to mouth scene had me laughing out loud.

Aside from some of the awkward conversations this was an intriguing episode. They are doing the sci-fi a lot better than the pathos.

I think the guy in the Detroit stadium looks like Lloyd Simcoe.

[MissMoneyBags]

Admittedly, if I absolutely HAD to receive a creepy phone call informing me of my own murder, Shohreh Aghdashloo would top the list of voices I'd pick... and here I was already completely creeped out by the sheriff's death in relation to Demetri!! This poor guy.

Stuff I loved: Courtney B. Vance and Lynn Whitfield's scenes together, the fanservicey nature of Mark and Demetri striding manfully away from the helicopter in their uniforms, Jack Davenport being all soulful, and the whole scene where the boss revealed what he had really flashed forward to. I normally despise bathroom humor but that scene was hysterical.

Stuff that didn't totally work for me: The Benford family drama isn't bad, but it's not my favorite aspect of the show. And what's up with Dr. Varley? The actor is fine, but I'm impatient to see the character tied into the main action. I hope they don't keep him around solely to dispense happy monologues, because I was a little bit ready for Jack Davenport to smack him.

Overall the good FAR outweighed the bad.

[Moosejaw]

I knew that sheriff was a goner as soon as she said that she didn't see anything in the FF. Other than that, there is very little in this show that's predictable.

[12916studios]

Maybe it's because I have the maturity of a 12 year old but I was laughing the whole time Courtney B Vance was giving Mark the details of his vision and what happened after the blackout. Mark looked like he was going to crack up any minute! I wonder if that's because Fiennes was having trouble holding it together?

I wouldn't be surprised if Fiennes was having trouble holding it together. I was certainly laughing my ass off. I mean, just consider how ludicrous it is. Whichever writer came up with that is freaking brilliant.

ETA: Also, was I the only one who noticed Dr. Varley sketching the head of a woman? While I didn't get a good look at it, I couldn't shake the feeling that the woman may have been the future-pregnant lady agent whose name I cannot remember right now.

Edited by 12916studios, Oct 1, 2009 @ 8:38 PM.

[AimingforYoko]

The Benford family drama isn't bad, but it's not my favorite aspect of the show.

The only reason Benford-angst doesn't bother me is that it is intertwined with the overall mystery. Charlie apparently had quite the flash forward and Lloyd Simcoe is in this thing up to his eyeballs.

[LaraAriadne]

I know I'm super-critical, but the episode was just OK for me. I dunno, the creepy doll parts were just a bit over the top and I don't care for all the angsting between the main couple (Mark and Olivia, right?). Also, cupcake lady annoyed me and the minute the cop lady said she hadn't seen anything, I knew she was going to die in order to freak out Demetri and drive home the point that no vision = death. Will I be watching next week though? Heck yeah!

That's not why I'm posting though...where have I seen the actress playing cupcake lady before? It's driving me nuts!

ETA: Thank you, marko52! And 12916studios, you made me laugh!

Edited by LaraAriadne, Oct 1, 2009 @ 8:52 PM.

[Bussy]

I think Courtney B. Vance is my favorite character (wish I could get a grasp on his name). He had my two favorite parts of the episode. I actually said out loud when he was closing the door, "Dude, being in the bathroom isn't that embarrassing. Get over yourself." But when the story kept going... yeah. That's terrible. And then when he was making fun of the Homeland Security lady being wrong about their investigation.

Unforgivable Plotholes:
-Again with Olivia not being that busy in the hospital. She has time to take her child to work and suture a stuffed animal? And then ignores her patient? Seriously?
-I am around 5'8" and that weight and I'm a woman. I didn't buy that reasoning. I find that these FBI people are grasping at straws in general.

I LOVED Lloyd Simcoe. He is a great addition to the cast. I'm also loving Olivia more and more, despite her lousy work ethic. She is so great. Mark is a liar who lies, all the time, for no reason, while she continues to be completely honest. Also? He broods incessantly. However, I forgive it because he's so very pretty.

I actually said last week that the one thing that would make me angry would be for D. Gibbons to have anything to do with anything, because I assumed that the only reason the name was on the board in the future was because Mark saw it on the board... a complete self-fulfilling prophesy about nothing. However, the way this panned out and the creepy ending with Charlie has me ok with it.

I was so convinced that those cupcakes were poisoned!! I still think they are, actually. Also, why is it that Janis only has her important breakthroughs late at night when everyone else has gone home? Another thing I liked was that Demetri retained wounds from the other day. I hate when people in shows magically recover from bleeding head wounds by the next episode.

[12916studios]

That's not why I'm posting though...where have I seen the actress playing cupcake lady before? It's driving me nuts!

I don't know, but I've seen her too. Perhaps in a mutual flashforward?

[gorks527]

I think the guy in the Detroit stadium looks like Lloyd Simcoe.

Same here, so I suppose it's wrong that I find him more charming than I do, say, suspicious and skeevy.

Anyway, I didn't see the pilot and simply chose to watch this episode on a lark, but it was pretty damn good. Not brilliant, but suspenseful and surprisingly funny (the, uh, bowel movement scene was hysterical). Oh, and I'm digging, at the very least, the attempt at real emotion and not just, y'know, over-the-top explosions and creepy-ass hanging dolls.

[lilith1930]

Also, was I the only one who noticed Dr. Varley sketching the head of a woman? While I didn't get a good look at it, I couldn't shake the feeling that the woman may have been the future-pregnant lady agent

I actually thought it was Olivia.

And I think Suspect Zero will be Dominic Monaghan - I think he's about that height, and the guy was wearing a hat, hiding his hair color.

Man, I really hope Shoreh Aghdashloo's info saves Dimitri! Loved all of John Cho's snarky lines this episode.

[marko52]

The cupcake lady is played by Stephnie Weir. She is a former writer/performer on MadTV, and also appeared in Big Day.

[WritersBlock]

I was so convinced that those cupcakes were poisoned!!

I was going to say the same exact thing LOL

where have I seen the actress playing cupcake lady before? It's driving me nuts!

Stephnie Weir. She was a regular on MAD TV for quite a while.


Great episode. Great show. Don't have the time or energy to analyze, but just... GREAT show.

[cycat]

Wow! Goodbye, book -- hello new can't-miss series!

The doll parts didn't bother me so much, but the hanging dolls? Whoa.

Given Mark's flashforward image of the burned doll head, I'm surprised they plowed up the stairs after they tripped the alarm.

Also, I will never be able to think of Jack Davenport as anyone other than Steve Taylor. I kept expecting Olivia to snap, "ApparentLY!" at him.

[kiki38]

I wonder if Soon to be preggers FBI Lady (I can't remember her name either) was crying during her sonogram because...Demetri is the daddy of the as-yet-conceived baby girl, and he's dying in March Spoilered it just in case, since it's just my thinkin out loud.

But two episodes, and I'm freakin hooked!

[fastiller]

And seriously, those doll parts were the creepiest thing I've seen on TV since that episode of Threshold involving plants, blood, and if I remember correctly, teeth.

Yep: lettuce. Lettuce with teeth. I haven't been able to wash/eat salad without trepidation since watching that.

I also thought that the cupcakes were poisoned. Even mentioned it to mr.fastiller. The only thing I had a hink with is that they said Cupcake Lady was on the phone during the blackout. How do they know that she was on it, without actually hearing the conversation? She could've loaned it to someone.

[marko52]

I guess when you're married to a hottie like Angela Bassett, you have enough confidence in your own coolness to let yourself be the butt of poop and urinal mouth-to-mouth jokes. Well done, Mr. Vance.

[AimingforYoko]

The only thing I had a hink with is that they said Cupcake Lady was on the phone during the blackout. How do they know that she was on it, without actually hearing the conversation? She could've loaned it to someone.

Cupacke lady was not on the phone, it was Suspect one who hacked into her credit card account and bought a phone.