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Posted Jul 10, 2010 @ 11:36 PM

It's no wonder that it was so much more fun to root for Mondler than for Ross/Rachel.


I agree. Even though she had some OTT, Monica seemed to respect Chandler more than Ross ever respected Rachel. When Chandler wanted to change careers, she was completely supportive. No matter how crazy she got, I never doubted her love for Chandler. This is in such stark contrast to Ross's insecurities about Rachel's job.

I actually don't hate Ross because he has some of the funniest scenes, but he could be a major jerk sometimes.

Edited by Sara2009, Jul 10, 2010 @ 11:44 PM.


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Posted Jul 11, 2010 @ 2:05 AM

I never thought Rachel was particularly good to Ross, either. They really were a shitty couple - not sure why they were the "it" couple on television for so long.

And don't forget, Monica surprised Chandler with shark porn - now how many wives would do that?!

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Posted Jul 11, 2010 @ 2:37 PM

And don't forget, Monica surprised Chandler with shark porn - now how many wives would do that?!


After her initial freak-out, Monica was quite sweet about that wasn't she? She even offered to get in the tub and "thrash."

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Posted Jul 11, 2010 @ 4:32 PM

Benjamin Linus on Lost was a character who was to me Satan. Was there an evil thing that he did not do? But after his daughter was killed, he changed.
Very slowly, but changed he did. Toward the end I began to care about him.

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Posted Jul 12, 2010 @ 10:35 AM

I never thought Rachel was particularly good to Ross, either. They really were a shitty couple - not sure why they were the "it" couple on television for so long.

And don't forget, Monica surprised Chandler with shark porn - now how many wives would do that?!

Rachel was really awful at handling Ross's insecurities. She gave me the impression that she cared about her job and getting ahead in her career more than she cared about Ross. I warmed up to Rachel later when she became more mature.

Monica and Chandler had so many awesome moments. One of my favourites is in the season 8 premiere, when Monica finds out that Chandler kissed another woman to fake the wedding photos and Chandler finds out that Monica opened the wedding presents without him. One of them says, "Call it even?" and they high-five. I still laugh every time I think about it.

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Posted Jul 12, 2010 @ 12:28 PM

She gave me the impression that she cared about her job and getting ahead in her career more than she cared about Ross. I warmed up to Rachel later when she became more mature.



I think Rachel was just finally happy to be doing something she loved, and Ross wasn't very supportive about that. I don't think she cared about her job more than him. She was just a bit too dismissive about his concerns. In a way, this situation was repeated years later with Monica/Chandler with the whole Tulsa thing. The difference is that despite a few initial mishaps(ie. Chandler falling asleep so as to accidentally volunteer to relocate, Monica accepting the Javu gig before talking to Chandler), their characters were more mature about the whole thing. Plus since Chandler's relocation was only temporary, it made Monica choosing to take the Javu job more understandable IMO. Since it was her dream job, I wouldn't have wanted her to give it up. Even when Chandler was a bit insecure about Monica's priorities, we got that sweet scene where she lets him know that he's more important than any job. She just needed to take that opportunity, and I agreed with her.

I don't think Monica/Chandler loved each other more than Ross/Rachel loved each other. They were just a thousand times better at handling some of the issues that crop up in relationships.

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Posted Aug 2, 2010 @ 6:26 PM

Ross did have a tendency to a bit insane when it came to Rachel's job, but I totally sympathized with him about the Paris thing. I realize that Rachel had a wonderful opportunity, but I thought it was really callous of her to not be more mindful of what a terrible position she was putting Ross in. If he had stayed in New York, he would not be able to be as involved in their child's life. If he had moved with her to France, he would not be able to be as involved in his other child's life. It was a no-win situation for him. Either way, it would have sucked for him and for one of his children. If Ross didn't have another child and only needed to quit his job to follow her, I would have been on her side. As it was, I ended up disliking her quite a bit for acting as if Ross was being selfish for wanting to be in both of his kids lives.

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Posted Sep 11, 2010 @ 9:47 PM

I can't believe I'm saying this, but - Barney on How I Met Your Mother. Neil Patrick Harris is such a gifted actor, and it was a combination of his terrific performance and wonderful writing that made what could have been a cartoonish, one-note ladies' man into a delightful, multi-dimensional cad that I couldn't help love.

The latest season, however, seems to have been determined to take everything I loved about Barney and trample it to death. He loves Robin! Oh, wait, that's over - now he's back to banging everything that moves and making unfunny jokes about it. Sigh.

And while I'm on the subject, when did Robin become such a conceited twerp? It seems like every time one of the other characters suggests that maybe the guy she likes isn't into her, she scoffs and gestures at herself, saying "C'mon."

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Posted Sep 13, 2010 @ 6:24 PM

For that matter, when did Ted become such an elitist douchebag?

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Posted Sep 21, 2010 @ 7:27 PM

Claudia Donovan on Warehouse 13.

I'm watching the marathon leading up to the season finale tonight, and realized halfway through a whole day of undiluted Claudia that she just gets on my nerves more and more as the episodes progress. She's all snark, snark, snark, technobabble, snark, pop culture reference, snark, snark - it's as if they hired Diablo Cody to write all her dialog. Her voice, her constantly changing hair color, her attitude just all annoy the living hell out of me. And because of the need for geek bait on sci-fi shows there will probably be more Claudia as the show goes on. I find that depressing because I do love this show.

Whew. Glad I got that out.

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Posted Sep 22, 2010 @ 3:55 PM

when did Robin become such a conceited twerp?


How could she not be conceited, with all of the guys drooling all over her? Case in point this week, when she cleaned up and put on a nice dress, and Barney was so hot for her when she walked into the bar.

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Posted Sep 25, 2010 @ 7:55 AM

During the first season of The Vampire Diaries, I was completely indifferent to Caroline and Bonnie. When they weren't around I didn't miss them much. Wow, did season 2 ever change that. Caroline is so much more fun and interesting now that she is a vampire. I take back every bad thing I ever said about her. Bonnie, too, has become more interesting. She's so much stronger as a witch than she was last season and is very upfront about her hatred of vampires. When she nearly torched Damon I was cheering and telling Elena to shut up and let her finish. I really hope these two characters survive the end of the season especially since they killed my two favorites from last year, Anna and Pearl.

Edited by Turkish, Sep 25, 2010 @ 8:00 AM.


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Posted Sep 25, 2010 @ 9:21 AM

My indifference to Ellie Bartowski from Chuck has devolved into full-blown hatred. I keep waiting for her to surprise me and do or say something that will make me like her... but I wait in vain. Despite having a high-powered profession, she never seems to think about her work, or about anything of her own, hobbies, interests, skills, etc. Instead she chooses to obsess over the most minute details of her brother's life, and when she learns he has a secret job that excites and fulfills him, instead of being happy and proud, she demands he give it up! "Safety First" is nearly always the philosophy of weaklings and cowards -- which, I fear, describes Ellie. Aside from the weaselly Lester, she is the only character on the show who has never shown any strength. Even Jeff has played, at least once, an instrumental role in saving the day. But whether in spy matters or matters of the heart, Ellie gets it wrong, every single time. A fussy, humorless spoilsport. What's to like?

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Posted Sep 25, 2010 @ 12:38 PM

I don't know if I every *liked* Betty Draper, but I did feel sorry for her in the first season and felt that she had a lot of lost potential. I thought she was a victim of her parents, her husband and her times and while that didn't translate into admiration, it did translate into sympathy.

However, Betty has lost all of my sympathy as she's become crueler to her children and is taking out quite a bit of the neuroses of the first marriage on Henry Francis. Even more damning, three and a half seasons of Betty-time has convinced me that she really isn't a victim of her times whose potential was quashed by a hierarchal society. She hasn't really shown ingenuity or imagination or skills beyond being a trophy wife. If Betty existed in 2010, I feel pretty firmly that she would be a retired model who became a cold, angry trophy wife hung up on her fading beauty and quick to punish everyone around her.

Meanwhile, Pete Campbell is a perfect illustration of a character that I *hated* at first and came to....tolerate/find positive qualities for. I think at heart he's a conniving, slimy person. Yet, he's a conniving and slimy person who's found a way to become a valuable contributor to his business and household. Becoming a partner at SCDP has actually been a good thing for his character. He's been a more responsible and prudent stakeholder of the company's interests than Don or Roger. He's been a more dynamic and talented rain-maker of a partner than Roger, Pryce and likely Cooper. I give Trudy most of the credit, but Pete also deserves props for having arguably the healthiest marriage on the show.

Edited by wwhk, Sep 25, 2010 @ 12:40 PM.


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Posted Sep 27, 2010 @ 7:29 AM

I agree with the PP about both Betty and Pete. Although, I would say I actually like Pete now, not just tolerate.

One character I did a total 180 on was Brenda on Six Feet Under. First season or two, I hated her. I thought she was a toxic person, brought trouble wherever she went, and was totally nutso. By the end of the series, she became quite sympathetic and I was rooting for her.

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Posted Sep 27, 2010 @ 9:14 PM

I think a lot of that had to do with the way in which Brenda evolved. I felt that she was, while still recognizably Brenda Chenoweth, a very different person by the end of the series, one who had grown and changed somewhat, while still holding many of the core traits that were the sum of her life.

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Posted Sep 28, 2010 @ 12:50 PM

And while I'm on the subject, when did Robin become such a conceited twerp? It seems like every time one of the other characters suggests that maybe the guy she likes isn't into her, she scoffs and gestures at herself, saying "C'mon."


For that matter, when did Ted become such an elitist douchebag?


I definitely liked those two more when they were together. Robin, like Lily, is your average pretty young woman. Not so hot that guys would be falling all over themselves in real life. And Ted is not so cute that it offsets, indeed, his douchebaggery.

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Posted Feb 22, 2012 @ 10:17 AM

Nah, forget it.

Edited by DirectEstoppel, Feb 26, 2012 @ 9:52 PM.


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Posted Mar 4, 2012 @ 9:51 PM

Breaking Bad - Hank. at first I thought he was a typical obnoxious cop portrayed in a lot of tv shows. but now I like him more and thank god he grew out of that obnoxious phase (he still can be at times) and they gave more serious stuff to deal with to make him more sympathetic. Same with Marie - she annoyed me so much in the first season but now I find her funny and I think Betsy is a good actress. Even though I have warmed up to these 2 I still find their scenes the most boring in BB. Most of the time when they are on screen I'm like can we get back to Walt/Jesse/Gus story line please.

Another character from Breaking Bad - Saul. I thought he was really funny at first but after a while he grew stale and really he doesn't do much other than provide comic relief. He didnt do anything in S4.