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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 11:17 AM

Wait a second- so Kenny and Cohutta were both informed of the show's premise and who their partners would be when invited? I thought Diem said no one told her CT would be there.


I hate to keep plugging Derrick's podcast, but.... Emily said that Diem was the only person who legitimately didn't know what the format of this season was going to be.

Those who hadn't been told outright, figured it out when they saw who was on the plane.

Edited by viewer zero, Jan 27, 2012 @ 11:25 AM.

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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 11:30 AM

She is an annoying drama queen, but is also genuinely promoting her cause.

Diem and genuine, it doesn't compute. It's like an oxymoron.

Emily said that Diem was the only person who legitimately didn't know what the format of this season was going to be.

I don't buy it. Although, do leave it to Diem to be the one and only, special girl.

Man, I don't even know the depths of my hatred for Diem and then I come here/watch the show and it just floods out of me in waves.

Edited by peachmangosteen, Jan 27, 2012 @ 11:31 AM.

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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 12:13 PM

I don't buy it. Although, do leave it to Diem to be the one and only, special girl.


No doubt. I'm sure it was because BMP *feared* Diem would back out if she knew and Diem is just so super special awesome that they couldn't have that, so Diem was tricked into gracing everyone with her awesomeness.
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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 12:29 PM

Diem is so damn selfish. Does she not understand that she seriously hurt CT? How could you not be there for his brother's funeral, and if she really "missed the flight" why not call and be sincere and apologize and try to fly out next thing? CT is right, he was there for her, (although I don't believe their relationship was the healthiest of all time) and she couldn't even do the most important thing for him.

She is not mature enough to understand that CT owed her nothing while they were broken up. She has way too many people in her life kissing her ass not to tell her how it really is. That she is WRONG, and CT was in the right to fuck Shavoun as many times as he wanted. As someone pointed out about her surrounding herself in that pool and rallying the ROOKIE girls who were most likely in what? High school when her and CT dated? It's a shame she used her cancer to turn herself into this perpetual victim.

I don't believe that she loved CT. Like she said, CT was there to make her feel sexy again. He was a confidence booster for her. She was feeling unattractive with "no hair", and CT's fine and sexy ass still dug her out of all the other "sexy" girls. But I don't think she truly loved the real CT, in my opinion. I don't understand why she couldn't still date CT and have him support her during her "career". She didn't have to get married to him right away, but she didn't have to dump him either.

I feel for CT because I believe he did care for her, but I also believe he is over it, and just wants to play the game. Sure, he might flirt and he may still have feelings, but he's just over that stage in his life and has moved on. It kills Diem that he is not kissing her ass and giving her this grand apology. I hope he never does.

And why can't she apologize for not being there for him? After all that she went through you'd think she'd get that.

I found the Diem, CT, and Shauvon confrontation about him sleeping with Shauvon. This is where I (and everyone) started to dislike Diem the most. I loved Shauvon telling Diem to shut the fuck up.

Edited by noluvnoluck, Jan 27, 2012 @ 12:37 PM.

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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 2:21 PM

I think CT doesn't like Johnny but he likes Wes less so if he can get rid of Wes by stirring up some stuff that's good for him. I appreciate the way he plays the game his way (without the alliances mostly) but isn't above messing with the competitors. They almost all fear him which is interesting if you consider he isn't one of the biggest guys there, but he's like a dog with a bone and just hangs on. I also think, in some respects, he's like wee little Derrick. Lower center of gravity, harder to push over and more nimble than his roided out counterparts. (He may be roided as well, I don't know but he seems shorter than the other guys).


I'm pretty sure CT is one of the biggest guys there. I don't think any guy(besides Leroy) would even consider throwing down with him. Maybe Mark.
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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 2:48 PM

Mark is looking a lot better than last time, he looks younger, maybe some botox, or maybe he got rid of his stupid goatee. Either way, he looks good. Also, the best male contestant in the speedo contest 100% goes to Dustin, I guess gay porn does make your body look good.

Vinny, oy what happened? I don't think his body is so bad, but the small speedo is not helping. I am still cheering for CT, but so conflicted that means cheering for Diem.

I'm definitely cheering for bi (from what I've seen, he definitely liked taking it) Dustin and Heather, because they seem so damn normal compared to these hot messes. Also, I'm on Abram and Cara Maria's team, and Mark and Robin (she's looking really good, motherhood had served her well). Everyone else, eh, but I just really want Wes and Mandi and Johnny and Camila to be gone.

Some couples, I just like one half really, like Leroy but not Naomi (crazy), and Emily, but not Ty (boy is setting off my gaydar for some reason).
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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 3:14 PM

I appreciate the way he plays the game his way (without the alliances mostly) but isn't above messing with the competitors.

CT has always played with alliances, from his very first Challenge, and could be just as nasty back in the day as Johnny was more recently. CT is also the one who started up with the "trim the fat" strategy and openly mocked others for not being "deserving" of being there. The reason he hasn't been in alliances recently is because he went through a weird (I'm trying to be diplomatic) period and no one trusted him strategically nor personally going into Rivals. For this Challenge, he is back in alliance mode. And I hope he does well, despite being partnered with ME-em. I'd rather he have been partnered with Laurel, they would have been a monstrous team. Hey, If Nate & Priscilla qualified and they could never even catch footage of Johnny & Camilla, CT & Laurel should pass their guidelines.
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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 3:31 PM

CT is also the one who started up with the "trim the fat" strategy and openly mocked others for not being "deserving" of being there. The reason he hasn't been in alliances recently is because he went through a weird (I'm trying to be diplomatic) period and no one trusted him strategically nor personally going into Rivals.


I remember the "trim the fat" strategy but I totally forgot that was his. That was awful because it was always the women they were "trimming" and it used to make me really mad. My how time things change. I wonder what would happen if they did a single sex Challenge. That could be very interesting.
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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 5:19 PM

They almost all fear him which is interesting if you consider he isn't one of the biggest guys there, but he's like a dog with a bone and just hangs on.


They've all basically acknowledged (and we've witnessed onscreen) that CT is the strongest guy there. (For example the concrete swan incident from last season, which still makes me laugh).

I don't buy it. Although, do leave it to Diem to be the one and only, special girl.


Diem strikes me as that girl that can just make up whatever the hell she wants, and everyone thinks she's just this perfect little angel, so it would never occur to them to question it, even if it goes against reason. Bonus points if it's something that makes her seem like the most special little princess snowflake in the whole BMPverse.
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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 5:32 PM

I found the confrontation about him sleeping with Shauvon. This is where I (and everyone) started to dislike Diem the most. I loved Shauvon telling Diem to shut the fuck up.

I've hated that girl since Fresh Meat when she manipulated Derek and had him all twisted up and feeling sorry for her. My challenge memories/knowledge are a bit jumbled, but she sealed my eternal hatred when she got mad at one of the other girls (Anessa/Tina) when they chose her to go against in an elmination round, or whatever it was. I remember her being so put out because she "needed the money" and how could she do that to her? Like she's the only damn one who needed money. I get it that she had medical bills to pay, but she acted like it was everyone else's duty to carry her to the finals and hand the #1 prize and their winnings too. That bitch has been "dead" to me ever since then (no offense to her cancer diagnosis or anything like that intended).

That confrontation with CT and Shauvon just reinforced how ridiculous and obnoxious she is and how happy I was that she was no longer with him because I hated that he was even interested in that vapid creature in the first place. When he hit Adam and was sent home, I blamed her too, with her shit-stirring ass. Speaking of Adam, man I kind of wish he was back on this season.

I like Dustin too. Don't know if I'd hook up with him, but I don't blame Heather. He is working with a little something, something in that Speedo.

CT is also the one who started up with the "trim the fat" strategy and openly mocked others for not being "deserving" of being there. The reason he hasn't been in alliances recently is because he went through a weird (I'm trying to be diplomatic) period and no one trusted him strategically nor personally going into Rivals.

Yes, I do remember that, but I found it all to be more about being competitive. I am a CT-apologist, so I can overlook most of his transgressions, even though I also remember thinking he was being a dick with that strategy. Thankfully, he has since changed his ways, even if he kind of had no choice in the matter.

Edited by Mita_Jo, Jan 28, 2012 @ 4:01 PM.

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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 8:42 PM

Mark's body is amazing. CT is still so hot. Vinny? WTF?? That kid is HUGE.

I can't stand Diem. I can't stand her smug little face when she is getting attention from anyone...from the girls in the pool, from CT, from the cameras, just anyone. Ugh.

And I hate Wes. Just shut up already. "I'm going to get all the rookies, and blah blah blah." No you aren't, idiot, because nobody likes you!
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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 11:33 PM

CT is also the one who started up with the "trim the fat" strategy and openly mocked others for not being "deserving" of being there. The reason he hasn't been in alliances recently is because he went through a weird (I'm trying to be diplomatic) period and no one trusted him strategically nor personally going into Rivals.



I remember the "trim the fat" strategy but I totally forgot that was his. That was awful because it was always the women they were "trimming" and it used to make me really mad. My how time things change. I wonder what would happen if they did a single sex Challenge. That could be very interesting.


To be fair, the "trim the fat" strategy has been in practice on many of the challenges to some extent. The RR team on The Gauntlet tried it a little bit, namely by getting rid of perennial loser Katie (although she did win Inferno) and trying to eliminate Sarah several times. CT was definitely the most blatant and sexist about it, and I won't argue that he's the one responsible for making it worse.

I like Dustin too. Don't know if I'd hook up with him, but I don't blame Heather. He is working with a little something, something in that Speedo.


He has a good body, but there's something really grimy about him -- probably his shadiness when it comes to his past as a gay pornstar. That, and his eyes are kind of piggish.

I can't stand Diem. I can't stand her smug little face when she is getting attention from anyone...from the girls in the pool, from CT, from the cameras, just anyone. Ugh.


She is the worst. THE WORST. It's annoying enough to watch her whine and moan and play the victim, but then to see her fucking BASKING in the attention, ugh. I swear, if she hadn't had cancer, she'd have Munchausen syndrome instead. And no, of course she knew what the format was. If BMP didn't tell them outright, the castmembers would figure it out easy enough. And given her talent for manipulation, she isn't dumb enough not to have put two and two together.

Edited by zereaux, Jan 27, 2012 @ 11:34 PM.

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Posted Jan 27, 2012 @ 11:40 PM

And no, of course she knew what the format was. If BMP didn't tell them outright, the castmembers would figure it out easy enough. And given her talent for manipulation, she isn't dumb enough not to have put two and two together.


Plus, even though (I think) they're not technically supposed to talk to each other before hand, you know the grapevine works, and everyone finds out who's going to be there. So if every other cast member knew the format, there's virtually no way that information didn't get passed to her. She's friends with a lot of the girls from various seasons. Does she honestly expect us to believe that she didn't get at least a half a dozen calls from people saying "OMG, you're going to have to be paired up with CT?!?" I might buy it if one of the rookies claimed they didn't know the format, because they wouldn't have those established relationships with the rest of the people to get that information passed along if production didn't share it with them for some reason.
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Posted Jan 28, 2012 @ 12:25 AM

Wait a second- so Kenny and Cohutta were both informed of the show's premise and who their partners would be when invited? I thought Diem said no one told her CT would be there. It would seem to me though that BMP would have to tell them though- suppose if they didn't and Cohutta accepts and KA doesn't, do they then have to go back and tell Cohutta, sorry, we know we asked you but we're rescinding our invitation?

It cracks me up 1. how bad of liars BMP and the cast members are and 2. how stupid they think the viewers are. With CT Laurel was a backup, so in some instances it's almost believable the cast didn't know. Except there are cast members without multiple hookups, so there's no way the cast didn't know. As for KA not wanting to go, either she had a prior commitment or they're feeding us more BS. Maybe Cohutta wants to go on the show and by trying to get us to remember him maybe he'll be put on the next show. KA has put on twitter more than once she wants to return to challenges and everyone should let MTV/BMP know they want her on there. If they were really keeping the premise a secret from the cast they would have asked KA first instead of Cohutta since she has multiple hookups and Cohutta doesn't.

PS I'm on the Diem hate train. Apparently the cast thinks she's great, but I don't buy it. How does Paula like her, she all but bashed anorexics when everyone thought she was anorexic before they knew she had cancer.

Edited by KLW369, Jan 28, 2012 @ 12:29 AM.

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Posted Jan 28, 2012 @ 2:14 AM

Speaking of Adam, man I kind of wish he was back on this season.


Nah, because that would mean Jenn would be back and no one needs to see that old crow anytime soon.
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Posted Jan 28, 2012 @ 11:24 AM

Nah, because that would mean Jenn would be back and no one needs to see that old crow anytime soon.

Good point. Good looking out. Is there no one else that Adam has hooked up with though? In all of his many years in the BMP world, there is not one other person? If not, that's pretty good. But knowing the producers, they wouldn't want him to be with anyone BUT Jenn, just for the drama that it would bring. It would have been nice to see him and CT possibly work together again.
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Posted Jan 28, 2012 @ 12:41 PM

How does Paula like her, she all but bashed anorexics when everyone thought she was anorexic before they knew she had cancer.


I don't love Diem but I've never had the hatred some people have for her. I'm with the previous poster who said she just doesn't inspire that much passion in me one way or the other (and in fact if I think about it, none of those tools do though I've had moments of wanting someone to punch Johnny but that's it). However I'm confused by this statement. I saw that first Fresh Meat challenge and I don't remember how she bashed anorexics.

If I remember she stated she was offended by Tina's calling her anorexic because it implied she was willingly doing this to herself when in fact she was sick. Yes Tina didn't know that but I thought Diem's feelings were valid. Also, I'm sorry but Paula of all people would have no moral leg to stand on because someone made a dumb or offensive comment once (which again I don't remember Diem making). We all saw last season how okay she was with laughing and engaging when someone else was being attacked but the second it turned on her, she was ready to play victim.

Edited by Popnography, Jan 28, 2012 @ 2:47 PM.

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Posted Jan 28, 2012 @ 2:23 PM

I'm having memory problems.

Did Diem hook up with Derrick on Fresh Meat? or did they just like each other but it never went anywhere?
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Posted Jan 28, 2012 @ 3:26 PM

Did Diem hook up with Derrick on Fresh Meat? or did they just like each other but it never went anywhere?

If I remember correctly, they were partners on FM. Derrick liked Diem a lot, and I personally think she used that and her cancer to her advantage. Sure they were partners and all of that and he was going to have to carry her through the challenge anyway, but she basically strung him along and flirted with him, when she wasn't really interested in him in that way. I think he really did thought there was something there and I believe it was discussed on the reunion. I can't remember if they ever kissed or anything though.

ETA: I went looking through the old RR/RW Challenge thread, to see if there were any specifics in the Diem thread, however, it wasn't started until AFTER FM. But I did find this quote from schlockmeister that sums up what happened between Diem/Derrick:

I don't like Diem very much because she seemed to be very disingenuous in the way she talked about Derrick on Fresh Meat. She'd go on her interviews and go on and on about how cute he was and how it was hard for her to think of him as "just her partner" without thinking how attractive she thought he was. But during the actual show it seemed to me quite clear she had no attraction to him whatsoever other, and her flirting with him seemed to be something she was doing to procure his loyalty over his guy friends on the challenge.


Edited by Mita_Jo, Jan 28, 2012 @ 3:47 PM.

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Posted Jan 28, 2012 @ 4:17 PM

In light of this piece from Grantland, I started to wonder: who are the best Challengers in the show's history? For the guys, it would be Landon, mostly because he's won three times out of four seasons, didn't act like a prick that I can remember, and made me forget the time he got drunk and/or angry and almost knifed a guy in Philadelphia. For the women, it's a little dicier. According to my Challenge chart, Veronica has the most Challenge wins amongst females with three . . . but that's out of eight seasons. Behind her are Rachel (ugh), Susie (double ugh) and Evelyn (*sigh*). I'd go with Ruthie, but it looks like she was a one-season wonder.

Thinking of BOTS1 . . . how funny would it have been if BMP brought in Adam and Ellen? There are times I miss her, mostly because she's probably found a real life. Adam can go rot . . . he put the "asshole" in ADD.

ETA: I was looking through my old posts, and I found this bit from a fantasy interview with Darrell after Fresh Meat . . . back when I wrote his dialogue like he sounded like Pootie Tang . . .

"As for Tina & Kenny? Hell, naw. It's a production rule: 'Beth can't win, Brad can't win, Derrick can't win, Tina can't win.' Means that if I do anudder Challenge and I whomp Brad upside the head with a crowbar and send him to the E/R, I ain't gettin' sent home. I just makin' things go quicker.


Heh . . . looks like I was wrong about that. I think twenty or thirty punches to the eye equals one crowbar, right?

Edited by Lantern7, Jan 29, 2012 @ 1:33 PM.

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Posted Jan 29, 2012 @ 2:08 PM

I just discovered that this was back! I'm excited even though I hate most of these people.

I'm really rooting for CT to take it home, this challenge was designed for him.

I want him to win too, but not if it means that Diem wins as well. Can't stand that self-entitled be-yotch! I loved CT's verbal smackdown on her at the end of the episode. She's the type to rile people up and then when they explode, pull a "I don't understand why he's so upset. I didn't do anything to deserve this."

I'm glad that Mark is back, and looking all kinds of hot. I wouldn't mind him winning either, except he's paired with Robin, who cries more than she actually partipates in the challenges.
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Posted Jan 29, 2012 @ 6:29 PM

If I remember she stated she was offended by Tina's calling her anorexic because it implied she was willingly doing this to herself when in fact she was sick. Yes Tina didn't know that but I thought Diem's feelings were valid. Also, I'm sorry but Paula of all people would have no moral leg to stand on because someone made a dumb or offensive comment once (which again I don't remember Diem making). We all saw last season how okay she was with laughing and engaging when someone else was being attacked but the second it turned on her, she was ready to play victim.


It wasn't what she said as much as how she said it. That's why i said ALL BUT. She went on and on the Derrick about how she didn't understand how anyone thought she was anorexic and she didn't want anyone to think she was...how she had cancer and couldn't help that she was so thin. She kept going on and on about how she didn't want to be so thin, blah blah almost to the point where you didn't believe her. Diems feelings were valid it was more how she said it(and to some degree what). Yes you have less control over cancer than an ED, but it's not a choice. That's like saying someone chooses to have bipolar, DID, etc.
As for the Paula comment, I NEVER said she had a moral leg to stand on. I said I was surprised she didn't hold a grudge. Paula is the first to hate on anyone that even implies any negative comment about or relating to an eating disorder. In the Rivals argument, Paula was as much if not more in the wrong than Laurel. But because an eating disorder was mentioned Paula felt exempt and that she was somehow in the right. She also got mad at the reunion because the host didn't know she had an eating disorder. It's an overly sensitive subject for her and so I expected her to have some feelings of animosity towards Diem for it because it would fit with Paula's "rationality" or lack thereof.

Edited by KLW369, Jan 29, 2012 @ 7:12 PM.

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Posted Jan 29, 2012 @ 8:13 PM

If I remember correctly, they were partners on FM. Derrick liked Diem a lot, and I personally think she used that and her cancer to her advantage. Sure they were partners and all of that and he was going to have to carry her through the challenge anyway, but she basically strung him along and flirted with him, when she wasn't really interested in him in that way. I think he really did thought there was something there and I believe it was discussed on the reunion. I can't remember if they ever kissed or anything though.


I think she led him on and banked on his feelings for her to get him to do whatever she wanted when it came to strategy. I can't decide if it's because she thinks she's some strategic mastermind or if it's because she just enjoys the power in getting guys to wrap themselves around her finger.
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Posted Jan 29, 2012 @ 9:29 PM

Derrick/Diem did kiss on that Fresh Meat challenge. It was at one of the group's drunk nights out. Then in her next challenge she went on about her kissing rule (waiting three weeks or so?) and why kissing CT was so very very special. Everyone (the viewers) were like "Girl, please."
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Posted Jan 30, 2012 @ 12:41 AM

As for the Paula comment, I NEVER said she had a moral leg to stand on. I said I was surprised she didn't hold a grudge.


I guess I just don't understand why Paula would hold a grudge about this considering she wasn't even on that season. Paula didn't show up on the Challenges until The Duel which presumably was the first time she met Diem and I find it hard to believe she paid that much attention to Fresh Meat that she would even know about these comments.

It wasn't what she said as much as how she said it. That's why i said ALL BUT. She went on and on the Derrick about how she didn't understand how anyone thought she was anorexic and she didn't want anyone to think she was...how she had cancer and couldn't help that she was so thin. She kept going on and on about how she didn't want to be so thin, blah blah almost to the point where you didn't believe her. Diems feelings were valid it was more how she said it(and to some degree what).


We can agree to disagree because I'm still not getting what exactly Diem did wrong here. You keep saying it was "how" she said it but I don't remember anything particularly evil or awful in the way she spoke about this. Yes anorexia is a psychological disease but it is silly, imo, to not understand why someone who had cancer which was causing their weight loss would be offended that someone thought it was just because they weren't eating.

Also I don't see why it's so wrong she would be bothered by someone thinking she had an eating disorder because you're right, it is a real illness and one you shouldn't just throw at someone as an insult when it's not true at all, which was the case. Also maybe she kept harping on it because Tina threw that insult at her more than once.

Look, like I've said, I'm mostly indifferent to Diem and I do think she is delusional and way out of line with her bullshit demanding CT apologize to her for hooking up with Shauvon but I think this a little reaching to try and find something else to hate on her about. And I'll state another unpopular opinion. I never got the whole hate about the Derrick situation. Diem and Derrick (as confirmed by Derrick as well) literally had one kiss on Fresh Meat. Yes he liked her and she flirted with him but considering all the sluttiness and whoring that goes on during those challenges, was one kiss that big of deal? There wasn't even any tongue for crying out loud.

Some commented on how ridiculous it was that Nate and Priscilla were on the show as exes considering they barely hooked up and had one mini-makeout session their entire season and yet Diem still gets judged as this evil harlot because she and Derrick shared one kiss how many years ago. After that season she met CT and they dated for a year or so and he's been the only guy from the challenges she's been with. There have been no stories of her with any other challenge guys.

Edited by Popnography, Jan 30, 2012 @ 12:45 AM.

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Posted Jan 30, 2012 @ 2:36 AM

[quote]I guess I just don't understand why Paula would hold a grudge about this considering she wasn't even on that season. Paula didn't show up on the Challenges until The Duel which presumably was the first time she met Diem and I find it hard to believe she paid that much attention to Fresh Meat that she would even know about these comments.[/quote]

Because anorexia is Paula's cause and anything related to it she knows about and defends. Also, I would figure Paula for the type to have watched the seasons to find out who to get buddy buddy with. You may be right and she may not have known who Diem was, but if she saw that I figured she'd be likely to harbor some anger. Not because there's a rational reason but because it's Paula. An ED was mentioned and it wasn't in a positive light.

Also, keep in mind I can't stand Diem, so anything she says is going to be viewed more harshly from me.

[quote]We can agree to disagree because I'm still not getting what exactly Diem did wrong here. You keep saying it was "how" she said it but I don't remember anything particularly evil or awful in the way she spoke about this. Yes anorexia is a psychological disease but it is silly, imo, to not understand why someone who had cancer which was causing their weight loss would be offended that someone thought it was just because they weren't eating.[/quote]
If she would have said it exactly how you did there would have been nothing wrong with what she said. That's why I say it's more how than what she said. She kept going on and on about how she didn't want to be that thin. Yes it would have been offensive to think she was losing weight because of an ED when she had cancer. But the way she went over the top to make sure people knew she didn't have an ED made me almost think she had one at the time. She made it seem as though she was pissed she lost weight and hated it just so people would think she wasn't anorexic. I don't believe for a minute that part of her wasn't a little happy she lost weight, even if it meant she could eat crappy food to put it back on later.

[quote]Look, like I've said, I'm mostly indifferent to Diem and I do think she is delusional and way out of line with her bullshit demanding CT apologize to her for hooking up with Shauvon but I think this a little reaching to try and find something else to hate on her about. And I'll state another unpopular opinion. I never got the whole hate about the Derrick situation. Diem and Derrick (as confirmed by Derrick as well) literally had one kiss on Fresh Meat. Yes he liked her and she flirted with him but considering all the sluttiness and whoring that goes on during those challenges, was one kiss that big of deal? There wasn't even any tongue for crying out loud.
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I pretty much agree with you here. I don't care about the Derrick thing, people have done much worse to stay around on challenges. I just don't like her, I find her annoying and hypocritical. Would I like her if I met her in person...maybe...but her edits I hate. The Shauvon thing is where my dislike for her turned a lot stronger, but I find her to be a whiny annoying brat. I can't stand seeing her on TV and everything she says makes me cringe. When she was spewing her sob story to the new kids I could barely watch, it was utter BS and I am so sick of her on my screen.
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#4827

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Posted Jan 30, 2012 @ 2:52 AM

I'm going to bed, but I gotta say: better to watch Diem than Shavoun. I want to like CT, I want to believe he's repenting for a misspent past, but the Shavoun thing is one tough stain to scrub. Let's say one of Diem's ovaries was to be consumed by cancer. You could remove the tumor-riddled ovary, mix it into a blender, pour the bizarre mixture into a glass and have CT stick his dick in there . . . and it still wouldn't be as nasty as hooking up with Shavoun. That ain't a knock on any sexual activity on her part . . . I just find that bitch to be toxic, inside and out. Maybe after being exposed to the likes of Evelyn, Beth, Casey, Veronica, Rachel, et al., I don't find Diem to be that ugly, even if her actions say otherwise

Somebody had brought up Adam King teaming with Jenn . . . I'm glad that's not the case, because he would've reported straight to Johnny. The end result would've had CT & Diem getting picked off and eliminated, followed by Johnny showing his true colors and fucking Adam over. The last thing we'd get is CT wailing on his one-time teammate, screaming, "I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS!!!!"

Edited by Lantern7, Jan 30, 2012 @ 2:52 AM.

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#4828

Popnography

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Posted Jan 30, 2012 @ 3:05 AM

Let's say one of Diem's ovaries was to be consumed by cancer. You could remove the tumor-riddled ovary, mix it into a blender, pour the bizarre mixture into a glass and have CT stick his dick in there . . . and it still wouldn't be as nasty as hooking up with Shavoun.


DAMN, OUCH!!! CT was in a really, really bad place when the whole Shauvon thing happened though. I mean the man did literally try to kill poor Adam and basically told Evan, while grunting and panting like an animal that he wanted to smash Adam's head and eat it. So yeah, hooking up with Shauvon was probably the sanest thing he did during that challenge and that's saying something.

Edited by Popnography, Jan 30, 2012 @ 12:21 PM.

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#4829

Lantern7

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Posted Jan 30, 2012 @ 11:26 AM

Was that around the time his brother had died? Then okay, I was probably a little harsh. But c'mon, man . . . Shavoun. Even if CT didn't watch The Real World: Sydney, he would have to see that Shavoun suck- . . . er . . . was not cool. The only worse possible hook-up at the time in BMP history would've been Trisha. Thank goodness she's dropped off the landscape.
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#4830

Popnography

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Posted Jan 30, 2012 @ 12:23 PM

Yeah, the challenge was literally only a few months after his brother's death. He was dealing with that and then Diem was also on the challenge, coming off of her not showing up and her whole 5 year thing and you could just tell CT was a mess. That was the worse I've ever seen him look in a challenge. His eyes were almost dead, he was a tiny bit bloated and just looked really out of it. That's why I think it was so nice to see him come back on Rivals and look like he'd actually tried to get his shit together since that last challenge.
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