Love It or List It
Posted Aug 1, 2009 @ 1:15 PM
Anyone watch this? I see it here and there in what I assume are repeats on W network.
The premise is that a family says why their current home doesn't work for them: not enough space, weird layout, had more kids, someone is working from home, whatev.
A designer and a real estate agent both come on board, sort of as a contest. The designer actually redoes their house within a budget given by the HOs, while the real estate agent shows them a couple houses within their budget and as close as possible to their wish list.
In the end, the couple/family has to decide whether to love it (stay in their newly redone house) or list it (sell and buy one of the places they were shown).
Funny thing, I have yet to see an ep where they decide to stay. I always feel bad for the designer, since she works her butt off and gives them a beautiful end product that solves most of their needs, yet, they never choose her work. She also always seems to end up with unforeseen problems during the reno that eat up a lot of the budget (like water leaks or sagging floors), but the HOs never want to give her more money to work with, even though it will add to the value of their house.
Anyone watch this show?
Posted Aug 2, 2009 @ 9:43 PM
I often like what the decorator has done with the house but I do find it surprising she so often runs into problems with electrical wiring, water supply, basic construction issues, etc.. I would have thought she would have given the place a serious once-over before she formulated her renovation plans/agreed to the homeowners' wishlist in order to minimize the likelihood of difficulties once the reno project got underway.
Posted Aug 3, 2009 @ 9:59 AM
Yet, she had to come back to them and say that the budget didn't allow for the bathroom reno after all. If she hadn't chosen granite countertops (easily 15% of the budget) she could have done the bathroom. There are lots of nice laminate countertops out there, and it wasn't something they insisted on.
Posted Aug 18, 2010 @ 8:39 AM
I often like what the decorator has done with the house but I do find it surprising she so often runs into problems with electrical wiring, water supply, basic construction issues, etc..
Having seen so many eps now, I realize that they have a formula they follow for every. single. ep. and it's pretty tiresome, in spite of the payoff of seeing other houses and a great reno. The formula: David shows two houses that are completely wrong, so much so that the couple gets angry with him for "not getting it". The final house is absolutely perfect, with all the wish list items plus bonus bells and whistles. The only catch is that it's either out of their preferred neighbourhood or over their budget. Hillary is given a budge that couldn't possibly cover all the wish list items. She has big plans but always runs into some important but unglamorous issue that eats up even more of the budget so that a major thing has to be left out. But in the end, she still manages to give them a spectacular reno, although it does seem that - like so many other designers on budgeted makeover shows - she wastes precious funds on pointless tchotchkes.
The choosing to love it or list it does seem to be pretty much 50-50, and knowing what I know about (un)reality shows, it's probably already a done deal long before the show is filmed. Oh well.
Posted Oct 10, 2010 @ 12:35 PM
The couple this morning decided to stay in their older home even though they didn't get the second bath they wanted (due to structural and electrical problems that had to be taken care of), since the designer, Hilary?, did such a great job.
And yesterday the well-to-do young couple who wanted a larger family decided to list since the designer, no matter how good a job she did, just could not create a fourth bedroom with the space she had. She did manage to make a second bathroom out of limited space though. These people were very nice. Some are so obnoxious, like they are told to ramp it up for the camera.
I wish too they would say what neighbourhood they are in, not that I know Toronto all that well but I would like to know the general area.
ETA: I just checked out W Network website and they are currently looking for people to be on the show.
Edited by Trey, Oct 10, 2010 @ 12:44 PM.
Posted Oct 20, 2010 @ 3:35 PM
I get a kick out of Hilary sometimes and wonder if she is really that much of a bitch or it an act for the camera?
Posted Oct 24, 2010 @ 3:19 PM
What do you mean, it's not enough money? What are you wasting it on, stupid frivolity like replacing knob-and-tube wiring that insurance companies won't touch, or shoring up load-bearing walls so the house won't collapse? But I want a fourth bedroooom!!!
Yeah, I'd be bitchy too.
Posted Jan 18, 2011 @ 1:50 AM
Posted Jan 18, 2011 @ 11:25 AM
They also did one for Desta, Hillary's blonde assistant and she became the HO from hell.
Posted Jan 22, 2011 @ 4:08 PM
Posted Feb 15, 2011 @ 4:28 PM
Posted Feb 16, 2011 @ 1:29 PM
I do get tired of the formulaic premise, but I love seeing the renovations and trying to guess whether they'll uh, love it or list it. I've kind of figured out that whatever option they seem to be in favour of during their whispery discussion, they'll go the other way. Example, they're saying something like, "David did find a great house, but Hilary did wonders with this one. Moving would be such a bother right now and he didn't get a house with a garage. This place looks great and the kitchen is fab!" Sounds like they'll choose to love it, but no, it means they'll list it. At least that's my theory.
It does also seem like Hilary does way more work. I realize she doesn't actually do the renovation work, but redesigning an entire floor or two, choosing all the colours/fixtures/etc., overseeing the project, dealing with the inevitable headache, redesiging because of that, styling the finished product - it seems like a lot.
Whereas David just has to sit at his computer and punch in what their wants and then take them on a few house tours. I'm not denigrating the effort of realtors, just that the workload isn't fair in this show, it seems.
Posted Feb 17, 2011 @ 8:46 AM
I have seen them do this so many times on other shows - "Property Virgins," "House Hunters" but never this high over. Don't these bloody realtors LISTEN to their clients? When people say to you, this is my budget, you should respect that. Otherwise, you should offer to help them pay the mortgage. News flash - people give you a budget for a reason.
Posted Feb 20, 2011 @ 6:46 PM
Which is another peeve about the so-called competition. Hilary's efforts actually help David; how fair is that?
Posted Feb 22, 2011 @ 12:47 PM
Trying to replay the narrators' voices from Love it or List it and Rich Bride, Poor Bride, I'm wondering if it's the same woman.
Jacqueline Hennessy (Jill's twin sister) narrates Love it or List it. Willene Falconer narrages Rich Bride, Poor Bride. I think both women are well cast for their shows.
Posted Jun 5, 2011 @ 3:36 PM
I am curious how this works; I'm presuming couples who "list it" have already made offers on another house for the most part. If this were an American production, I would presume that they had already closed on their new house before production even started, but I think in Canader, there's less wiggle room for fabrication on this aspect. I could be wrong though.
Posted Jun 11, 2011 @ 8:22 PM
The OWN Network is airing this show. There's currently a marathon of about 6 shows on right now.
OHhhhh! I want to see this show in the US. Sound great!
Edited by Mita_Jo, Jun 11, 2011 @ 8:24 PM.
Posted Jun 13, 2011 @ 12:51 AM
The second couple - - I think his name was Richard, can't remember hers - - were the most miserable people ever. I'm sure Hillary and David must have wanted to quit. This couple found something wrong with absolutely everything. I just don't think they were satisfied unless they were complaining. I don't think David was trying to suggest you were at fault for not having a larger budget, you dipshits, he was simply telling you the facts of life. They were expecting a huge house that fulfilled all their wants and needs on the budget for a starter house. And of course Hillary is goinig to be stressed when you just "assume" that she's going to do something, or not do something. I really hated this couple the entire episode and was honestly hoping David and/or Hillary would simply walk off the job and leave the two in their miserable little world.
In all, I enjoyed it and will likely watch again.
Posted Jun 22, 2011 @ 4:08 PM
As other posters have pointed out, the premise makes Hilary do all the work (even though I know she's not actually doing the reno). She has to come up with a design, deal with the inevitable bad wiring/leaky basement/not-to-code plumbing, which cuts into the budget. Her end result adds to the value of the house (although I'm skeptical that the reno adds more to every house than the reno cost), which helps David make his sale.
It's probably scripted and the end choice known from the get-go, but still. It doesn't seem like a fair competition. I do like seeing the renos though, which is why I watch most home shows.
Posted Aug 20, 2011 @ 12:03 AM
Posted Aug 20, 2011 @ 7:49 AM
I didn't realize there was a half hour version, but I FF through the construction/remodeling scenes, anyway. Watch the intro, the other houses David shows, then the reveal.
The episodes I've seen are pretty evenly split between love and list even though Hillary has never once been able to give the HOs everything on their must list. Poor thing can't produce extra space out of nothing -- although she comes close sometimes!
The episode with the mother and college-age son sticks out in my mind as being a particularly fabulous result for the HOs.
Posted Aug 20, 2011 @ 6:42 PM
I find the middle part just too overly scripted. Oh shocker, Hilary has stumbled upon some unforeseen problem with the house that will eat into the budget and make her have to take something off the wish list. Oh shocker, David found the perfect house that is just a tad over their budget (but never as expensive as they expect) but it will be perfectly affordable once Hilary's renos are taken into account. Meh.
What bugs me is that the unforeseen problem means the budget won't allow for one of the wish list items, but when Hilary reveals her reno, she often has a lot of ridiculously unnecessary and expensive items, like a $700 toilet or a $4,000 fridge. If she went a little more middling on those things, she might have had enough to add a needed closet or redo a powder room or something.
Posted Aug 21, 2011 @ 12:56 AM
Minimal sprucing up to sell or needed repairs I could see. But no one does total gut jobs even they're even THINKING about selling. That's what I don't get.
Posted Aug 21, 2011 @ 11:58 AM
And I have the same question as selhars about whether the homeowner is really putting up the money toward the renovations. Most of the shows I've seen have the homeowners keeping the home, so my guess is yes. But who knows.
Posted Aug 21, 2011 @ 3:05 PM
The HOs always irk me though, especially when they give the "we gave you a lot of money" line. Yes, $40,000 is a lot of money in theory, but when you want a practically new house (open concept, finished basement, the ubiquitous "spa bathroom," the inevitable "extra bedroom, "updated kitchen," etc), that is not a lot of money at all and nobody seems to realize the actual cost of things.
I hated the "green" couple who kept nixing the cost-saving, carbon-footprint-shrinking idea that Hillary had in favor of "theoretically green" but more expensive and not really efficient options, like nixing the granite countertops for man-made engineered countertops- why granite was so much more awful than an item that had been constructed in a polluting factory, then shipped to a warehouse is beyond me.
And I couldn't stand the 4 South Asian sisters- not so much the younger ones- they seemed pretty reasonable. The older ones, who ganged up with their father on the younger ones, then proceeded to complain bitterly when their requests had to be changed as well, however- i wanted to push them out of a moving car.
Edited by DaWife, Aug 21, 2011 @ 7:14 PM.
Posted Aug 25, 2011 @ 11:09 AM
The one with Michael and Jeffrey as the HOs -- the older one really was a huge crankypants. I don't see much hope for the future of that relationship.
Also notable as impossible HOs were the couple with the caucasian wife who had her silver hair in a bob and loooked about 15 years older than her black husband. It seemed like mainly the wife who didn't like anything, but her husband went along with it. David did find them a house they finally liked, though.
It all makes me realize I would NEVER make it as a reator! I'd constantly be in jail for punching my clients.
Edited by queasy, Aug 26, 2011 @ 7:41 PM.
Posted Aug 25, 2011 @ 6:29 PM
Plus, she probably spent several thousand bucks on pillows and knick-knacks, which really bugs me. Surely the homeowner wants to accessorize their own home.
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