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S11: Michele: Laying So Low She Might Disappear


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Posted Sep 5, 2009 @ 11:21 PM

That and Michele is socially awkward which only means that makes her an easier target. But the Michele hate by the HG's really started way back with Ronnie who decided he didn't like Michele after meeting her and the rest kind of piled on. And while he never gave a reason I think it probably bugged him that she had finished grad school, earned a Ph.D and was a working scientist while he was three years older, still not out of undergraduate school had no real career (or steady job even) - so even in the Brain Clique, Ronnie wasn't #1.

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Posted Sep 7, 2009 @ 11:33 AM

Why do all the other house guests seem to hate Michele? I've watched the show (not the live feeds) and haven't seen anything so horrible she's done that deserves the overwhelming distrust and hatred the other houseguests view her with.

I just don't understand it.

She doesn't have a likable personality, there's nothing there to like. Not to mention that she's a very awkward person.

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Posted Sep 7, 2009 @ 6:10 PM

I happen to like Michele. I've been one of those people on the outside looking in when around a group of people so I sort of just get her sometimes. I'd love for Michele to go to F3 to spite Natalie but I just don't see it happening.

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Posted Sep 7, 2009 @ 7:07 PM

She doesn't have a likable personality, there's nothing there to like. Not to mention that she's a very awkward person.


I think her awkwardness makes some people feel uncomfortable. For me, she's kind of endearing. I think she did "Big Brother" to confront her issues/demons so for that reason alone, I applaud her. For that and $500,000. As a researcher she'll never make that kind of money (uneless she discovers something big in the area of neuroscience).

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Posted Sep 9, 2009 @ 1:36 AM

I really liked her too. I think as much as she belonged in the "brains" clique, she could just as easily have been placed in the "offbeat" category. She's a little wacky and that, as baxsmom said, makes some people uncomfortable..and in the BB house uncomfortable soon becomes full out paranoia and mistrust. Personally, I thought her geeky nervousness paired with her genuinely gentle spirit and good heartedness was quite endearing, but it's easy to see how such a personality could be an easy target for the bullies in the BB house. (And once the bullies start, she's an easy target for everyone's increased paranoia!) She handled it well, though, and never quit. Kudos to her for making it to final 4 essentially as an alliance of 1.

ETA: I loved that Julia wished her better treatment in the Jury House.

Edited by Cometgirl, Sep 9, 2009 @ 1:39 AM.


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Posted Sep 9, 2009 @ 2:14 AM

Michelle was too good for this sorry lot of social parasites. Let this be a lesson to you kids, be wary of the people who seem socially adept. You know the popular, friendly types, who look like the life of the party, are usually the ones who will let you die in your own vomit to save themselves. Yeah, I'm bitter about this and I hope Michelle wins AF.

Will someone please rat out Gnastalie and her glove thieving ways?

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Posted Sep 9, 2009 @ 5:40 AM

I felt so bad for Michele last night. I just wanted to hug her when she came out to talk to Julie. I wish Kevin had had the balls to just stick it to Natalie & evict Jordan. I don't think it had anything to do with any so-called dirty deeds or how she played the games Kev just lat Gnat emasculate him & he never grew his balls back. I'm voting for Michele for America's vote.

Edited by StayClassySD, Sep 9, 2009 @ 5:43 AM.


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Posted Sep 9, 2009 @ 6:21 AM

Kevin and Michele had no relationship in the game. When he tried to make a deal during his HOH and then before this POV competition, she didn't go along. She told him she wanted a final 2 with Jordan. Then she spent most of last week trying to keep Jeff, complete with telling Kevin if he did not keep Jeff, she would evict him. Her Diary Room from last week had her saying she was going to get Kevin out. Even if Kevin did think she might take him over Natalie, he might have remembered how she fought with Russell and promised safety to Chima if Chima did not nominate her, yet the very next week, she was protecting Russell and nominated Chima. If the only reason to evict Jordan over Michele was to stick it to Natalie, who is very bitter and would probably hold true to her threat not to vote for him if she was in the jury, then he may have been right not to keep Michele.

I really like Michele and I feel sorry for how she was treated and the attacks on her were uncalled for, but she gave up almost all of her game, outside of winning competitions, because she wanted to prove herself to Jeff and Jordan. She had nothing else in the house but this effort for 2 people who at one point during their HOH runs, could barely stand to speak to her. She campaigned for Jeff, she considered using her veto to save Jeff; she did more to save Jeff than she did for herself. Once Jeff was gone and she couldn't win the competitions she needed to win, she had nothing to fall back on.

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Posted Sep 9, 2009 @ 1:58 PM

She doesn't have a likable personality, there's nothing there to like.

So not liking someone justifies hating them? Is it a damning fault not to be liked by everyone? Do individuals who fail to please others and make themselves likable deserve such OTT animosity? I understand from interviews with people who met and were social with Hitler that he was very charismatic and personable. Do these qualities mark him as a 'good' guy?

Michele is an 'odd duck'. I can understand they may not like her or want her as a friend but why do they have to hate her? Why no 'live and let live'?

With Michele and her treatment by the other houseguests I keep wondering about parallels with 'The Lord of the Flies" and Piggy from that book. Someone who didn't fit in, couldn't fit in, becomes a pariah and unifying object of collective hatred. I always felt sympathy and pity for Piggy and I do now for Michele too. I can't and won't side with 'Bullies' and hold their victims accountable for their own mistreatment because they weren't 'likable' enough.

Regarding her backstabbing and being deceitful:
She wasn't obligated to ally with Ronnie and Chima because she was in their clique though they may have thought so. Early on she was a wallflower and got to sit in on a lot of alliance and strategy discussions with others. Their tacit acceptance of her wasn't a favour she owed them for and didn't constitute a binding alliance though they may have thought so.
I would say her biggest game play fault was being too noncommittal to anyone or any alliance. I don't think she was comfortable lying to people and when telling the truth was uncertain if it might hurt her game. This unfortunately made her awkward when either lying or telling the truth. This discomfort and lack of commitment/trust in others probably is what led to their distrust of her. I don't think it justifies their OTT attacks or vilification of her.

During Michele's exit interview I was begging Julie to ask Michele to take off the devil horns because she doesn't deserve them. I found Michele to be kind, gentle and respectful - and too good for this game. I liked her.
Of course, YMMV.

Edited by d3clarks, Sep 9, 2009 @ 2:03 PM.


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Posted Sep 9, 2009 @ 2:42 PM

I really like Michele too and I voted for her for the America's Choice. My only wish is that Gnat finds out that the majority of people hate her and NOT Michele, and that all the stuff she's said about her is absolutely ridiculous and untrue. Part of the reason I like Michele so much is because I hate Gnat so much.

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Posted Sep 11, 2009 @ 8:23 AM

Michele is an 'odd duck'. I can understand they may not like her or want her as a friend but why do they have to hate her? Why no 'live and let live'?

I think it's been said before, but I think the house guests, hate her because they think she is smarter than them. And think that if they could break her spirit by spewing venom it would weaken her gaming ability.
I believe that Ronnie just hated her because he was jealous of her being smarter than him, and realized that she may be stronger than him, because she didn't become a suck and handmaiden to the powerful (The Atheles when they were in power).

Edited by Demig, Sep 11, 2009 @ 8:26 AM.


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Posted Aug 27, 2010 @ 11:30 PM

Just reviving this thread to say looking at a lot of her behaviour outside of the house post show it's starting to become a little clearer as to why the houseguests didn't like her.

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Posted Aug 31, 2010 @ 8:45 PM

What kind of behavior?

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Posted Sep 1, 2010 @ 6:32 PM

Check out the last 10 pages of this thread to get the gist. Let's just say she's...changed.

http://survivorsucks.com/topic/58558

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Posted Sep 1, 2010 @ 11:22 PM

You know, there was something strange about her to me. I remember the first time John Edwards ran for President and me telling everybody there was something fake and off-putting about him, like a perverted salesman of some kind. Then the stories about the love child came out...

I was rooting for Ronnie, though, as the nerd par excellence.

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Posted Sep 16, 2010 @ 1:23 PM

I honestly don't know what to say. Michelle is "starring" in a show for playboy TV in which she gets naked and has on camera sex with some guy from "I love New York". WTF! I can't believe she is doing this. I had heard that she left her husband and hasn't spoken wither family since the show, but this is a whole other type of crazy!

link here http://www.realityte...ality-sex-show/


So gross!

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Posted Sep 16, 2010 @ 8:38 PM

After what I read in that prior thread I posted about a certain act that Johnny Fairplay allegedly performed on (in?) her, I have lost the ability to be shocked by anything I read about Michelle.

Edited by Rina99, Sep 16, 2010 @ 8:40 PM.


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Posted Dec 11, 2010 @ 7:30 AM

I was watching GSN last night and Michelle was on a dating show called baggage. She is now divorced and is living with a porn star and she also won the date on baggage.

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Posted Dec 14, 2010 @ 10:20 PM

Maybe the holiday season is making me a little too kind, but I always get the feeling that the Big Brother experience broke her in some way, or at least pulled her batshit insane tendencies out of whatever dark recesses they were hiding within.

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Posted Dec 15, 2010 @ 8:36 PM

Michele's "Baggage" episode's now up on GSN's site for that show (it's episode #75).

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Posted Mar 6, 2011 @ 12:11 AM

That was my first time seeing and hearing about that show. It looked like it was scripted to have her win. I wonder if she just turned bisexual to be so "wild", this new persona she has. Maybe she's not taking her lithium.

Which could cause another bad decision she made. The hair? Who, on what planet told her that Lydia's hair looked good on her? She could almost pass for a somewhat cute girl with the long brown hair. She looks like she let Tyra Banks have at her.

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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 6:48 PM

According to her twitter feed, it looks like Michele may have started dating Joe from the second season of "Beauty and the Geek": http://twitter.com/#!/neurogoddess/status/192014819723984896/photo/1