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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 2:04 PM

Actually it was probably a matter of savings. I looked online and a plain old Fender strat seems to come in around $700 US.


See, that's the problem. I would agree if I felt they needed to use an actual, made-in-America Strat (the $700 base model). But the problem is that Fender makes, or rather imports, beginner series guitars from China that look for all the world like a $700 dollar Strat and bear the Fender name (not that the camera ever got close enough to read it) that sell brand new for about $125 and can usually be found on craigslist and such for half that. So, there's really not a monetary excuse. It was just laziness from the prop department and the producers.
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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 2:23 PM

And here I was thinking that the Experience Music Project in Seattle was the current home of Jimi's guitars... unless I missed a title tag saying that's where they were.
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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 7:37 PM

I'm not exactly a music historian but wasn't Jimmy Hendrix left-handed? So shouldn't that have been a left-handed guitar.

I re-watched last week's episode over the weekend. Myka looks so much like HG with the straight hair it's amazing.
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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 7:41 PM

But the problem is that Fender makes, or rather imports, beginner series guitars from China that look for all the world like a $700 dollar Strat and bear the Fender name (not that the camera ever got close enough to read it) that sell brand new for about $125 and can usually be found on craigslist and such for half that. So, there's really not a monetary excuse. It was just laziness from the prop department and the producers.


Once again I really don't see it that way. Is it fair to assume they would have this knowledge? Often we assume because we know a thing, others have easy access to this knowledge as well. Would a prop person in charge of providing a guitar (maybe even two, one for some shots and the other playable for Claudia) know where to look in the time frame of a TV show to obtain something like this? We often hear the timetable of production for each episode is about 8 days, with some lead time for setup at the start of the season that gradually gets winnowed down as the season goes on. And it wasn't a super important plot point, so they may not have deemed it necessary to put in the time and effort to do the research/obtain the right guitar(s) at the cheapest price. We may never know if they were actually being "lazy" but I'd like to give the production team the benefit of the doubt. It's unfortunate that feels like an insult to some viewers, but I think the production team does the best they can with the money and time they have.

I'm not exactly a music historian but wasn't Jimmy Hendrix left-handed? So shouldn't that have been a left-handed guitar.


IIRC Hendrix was so badass he just learned to play a right-handed guitar upside down.

Edited by captain sam, Jul 18, 2011 @ 7:44 PM.

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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 7:44 PM

Jimi Hendrix normally played a standard Strat flipped over and restrung for a left hander not a specially made left handed Stratocaster. Later Stevie Ray Vaughn had has "#1" guitar modified so the tremolo bar would fall on the same side relative to the strings as Jimi's instead of the stock position
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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 9:26 PM

Liked the dynamic with Claudia and the new guy, and hey, she is an official "agent" now!

I can't get used to Joanne Kelly's new non-frizzy hair though. She looks good but she doesn't look like herself somehow...maybe it is good in suggesting that she has been away for a while and undergone changes. Also is the straight, luxuriant hair supposed to drive home how "like" HG she is?
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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 9:38 PM

Once again I really don't see it that way. Is it fair to assume they would have this knowledge? Often we assume because we know a thing, others have easy access to this knowledge as well. Would a prop person in charge of providing a guitar (maybe even two, one for some shots and the other playable for Claudia) know where to look in the time frame of a TV show to obtain something like this? We often hear the timetable of production for each episode is about 8 days, with some lead time for setup at the start of the season that gradually gets winnowed down as the season goes on. And it wasn't a super important plot point, so they may not have deemed it necessary to put in the time and effort to do the research/obtain the right guitar(s) at the cheapest price. We may never know if they were actually being "lazy" but I'd like to give the production team the benefit of the doubt. It's unfortunate that feels like an insult to some viewers, but I think the production team does the best they can with the money and time they have.


Any prop specialist worth a damn would certainly have the time to research that, particularly since it takes all of five seconds to Google Jimi Hendrix + guitar to find out what kind of guitar Jimi was most famously associated with. It was so distracting that I didn't even realize Claudia was playing it right handed when it would have been strung the wrong way since Jimi always played right handed guitars upside down.
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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 9:44 PM

Is it fair to assume they would have this knowledge?


I think it's fair to assume that a prop department person, when given a script that calls for a prop would do some small amount of research on said prop - especially when it's a show that supposedly takes great pride in the details of the artifacts and their histories. I'm not sure where they shoot (probably Canada), but even so, I'm sure it's a fairly large community, so ONE phone call to the nearest music store would have given him the same info I stated. Two minutes tops. It's really not specialized knowledge as I'd guess any parent ever walking into Guitar Center at Xmas can tell you.

Jimi Hendrix normally played a standard Strat flipped over and restrung for a left hander not a specially made left handed Stratocaster.


Exactlyl right. Jimi did play left handed and did so properly. The only difference was that the guitar body and neck were upside down for him and not modified for a leftie - ie. volume/tone controls were under his arm pit rather than at the end of his arm, etc.

I don't mean to belabor this point, but as I said above, this is a show that seems to try to get the details right or at least sounding right and this was the equivalent of having JFK's assassination limo as the featured artifact and then showing a 67 Camaro. Sure, it's a car...

Edited by failuremagnet, Jul 18, 2011 @ 9:51 PM.

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Posted Jul 18, 2011 @ 10:08 PM

Is Myka becoming HG Wells? Because with the hair cut she looks EXACTLY like her. Even down to the clothing. She also sounded like Linda Hamilton with her voiceover.

Speaking of haircuts, Pete seems to have the haircut of a ten-year-old boy. Like that episode of Seinfeld.

This episode had some good parts, the end with Myka and the interaction between Jinks and Claudia. But I wasn't crazy about this episode. It didn't gell very well.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 12:21 AM

Does anyone know what the music was in the end, when Myka was at the table with the Regents?

I liked the crushed face Myka had when she realized Pete had abandonment issues and she had just piled on.

I didn't much care for Claudia's "I'm the senior agent" dance until these lines:
STEVE: This doesn't make sense.
ARTIE: It will once you know her better.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 12:23 AM

For an episode that was meant to help iron out the kinks in the team after Myka's return and Steve's addition, I think it mostly succeeded. All of the Pete and Myka stuff was great and I liked their bookended interactions: one with grown Pete acting boyishly by showing Myka the food in his mouth and the other with child Pete very sweetly watching her bag the artifacts. I think this really helps reinforce their sibling-style relationship. Child Pete liked her right from the bat and Myka reacted to that core of sweetness that remains from his childhood. All of it came from the actors though, since the writing was a bit thin in places. Especially the news station scene where Myka ruminates out loud on the lawyer being the common link between all the victims. All they had to do was have her stare at the tie clip, not spell out the entire chain of events thus far. We got told, not shown.

Claudia and Jinks...not as much success. I like that they're transitioning Claudia out to the field as she literally and figuratively grows up. But the resonant scene there was with Artie, who admitted he'd come out to Boston to watch her in action just like a proud father going to his kid's soccer game. His kid's potentially deadly footchase cat-and-mouse soccer game. The case itself was bleh until the last scene, when Claudia watched granddaddy axe thief with his family and held Poopyface's hand. I always like when they remind us that the warehouse is Claudia's found family and how important it all is to her.

And I guess Myka had to wear all the clothes HG left behind at the warehouse...? I liked her suits and casual businesswear last season. The three-quarter sleeve jacket was my favorite.

Edited by captain sam, Jul 19, 2011 @ 12:39 AM.

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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 12:45 AM

The fact that Myka's hair AND wardrobe have now become dramatically HG-like seems significant--maybe just to suggest the impact of the HG experience on her but I do wonder where they are going with that. (Also I miss her boob-hugging shirts from season one that CCH Pounder admired in one of the DVD commentaries)

Another good episode for the new guy. The first episode established his "bromance" with Pete nicely, and bonded him a bit with Myka who saved his life, and in this episode he bonds w/ Claudia and snarks w/ Artie a bit. I am sort of taken aback how well they have integrated him into the show so fast.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 12:45 AM

Oh, Myka. You miss HG so much that you're wearing her clothes now. I approve.

Also, this: I keep thinking about this kid, Eric. He’d been dating Amy in secret for months. No one knew, not even his best friend. But when she broke it off with him, he was hurt. He took Jeffery’s car to confront her, and it ended badly.

Anybody else see the HG/Myka parallels in it? Sneaky writers being sneaky.

edit: The song in the episode was So Easily by Kathryn Calder.

Edited by Lady Snarkbite, Jul 19, 2011 @ 1:03 AM.

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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 1:13 AM

Also, this: I keep thinking about this kid, Eric. He’d been dating Amy in secret for months. No one knew, not even his best friend. But when she broke it off with him, he was hurt. He took Jeffery’s car to confront her, and it ended badly.

Anybody else see the HG/Myka parallels in it? Sneaky writers being sneaky.


First thing I thought of, especially since she's looking like HG in the whole episode. This woman has always been meticulous about her dress and now it's casual shirts untucked, with coat and vest and knee high boots? She is so emulating HG, why is the question.

So when did they change the policy about guns? I was under the impression that they used the tesla for everything? Why did Myka use her gun other than to make a great shot?
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 2:03 AM

So when did they change the policy about guns? I was under the impression that they used the tesla for everything? Why did Myka use her gun other than to make a great shot?


I don't think their changed they policy. They only have one tesla between them so they kind of have to share it, like with the Farnsworth. I'm pretty sure they generally use the tesla but they always carry their standard issue guns too.

Edited by Squirrtle, Jul 19, 2011 @ 2:36 AM.

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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 2:10 AM

I could be wrong, but I think I've seen Myka with a gun before. I haven't watched season one since it aired, but I thought that it was usually Pete with the Tesla and Myka with the regular gun. Speaking of Tesla guns, I know what I want for Christmas!

I still need to watch the season premier, but I enjoyed this episode. Everyone's back together again being their normal goofy selves and I like the new guy. I was amused by the fact that they even tossed in a reference to Myka's flip-flop on the sugar issue. And I really liked the last scene with them all around the dinner table. Reminded me again just how great the chemistry is with this cast. They're completely believable as a oddball extended family. So please, PTB, no Pete/Myka.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 3:58 AM

Nobody is going to comment about the fact that the new guy is gay? How often do we get a gay character on Sy Fy?
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 4:07 AM

So when did they change the policy about guns? I was under the impression that they used the tesla for everything? Why did Myka use her gun other than to make a great shot?

I don't think their changed they policy. They only have one tesla between them so they kind of have to share it, like with the Farnsworth. I'm pretty sure they generally use the tesla but they always carry their standard issue guns too.

Yes and they usually share, in that one of them carries the Farnsworth and the other carries the Tesla. I remember once Pete was trying to trade the Farnsworth for the Tesla and she said that he still had his 9 mm but Pete whined, "But that's the boring one."
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 5:23 AM

Will need to watch the ep again. There is too much to watch on Monday's.

It is interesting to see where they are going to take Myka.

Regarding the gun, they did usually carry a weapon. The season premiere last year there was the scene where HG has taken the Tesla and she and Pete struggle. She knocks him out but is stopped when Myka whipped out her gun.

Going over some of the spoilers I am really looking forward to the ep that they say is going to take place over 3 time periods. One of which is going to 1890's Victorian England.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 7:06 AM

Oh, those Ashmores...

I actually had to look online to see which one it was. I don't know if they're identical twins, but I think so.

This time it's Aaron.

Nobody is going to comment about the fact that the new guy is gay? How often do we get a gay character on Sy Fy?

He's gay? I guess the fact that I never heard that can mean progress? maybe like nobody is saying "Hey, we have a female detective on tv!!"
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 8:01 AM

It was briefly mentioned while he and Claudia were on stakeout. Claudia was teasing him, pretending she thought he was hitting on her. He gets flustered and blurts out that he's gay, everyone gets more flustered and that's pretty much it. I thought it was a nice, natural way to handle it.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 8:10 AM

Yay, Lindsay Wagner is back next week.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 8:33 AM

I've actually been rather amazed by how smoothly they integrated Jenks into the show. He's likeable, funny, fits in perfectly with the wisecracks. Loved his eagerness to get an "exciting" case, and that he didn't really seem to mind that Claudia was the senior agent, even if he had to tone down her gloating. No artificial resentments or drama -- good work all around!
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 9:57 AM

They hit just the right note of Jinks being annoyed by Claudia's constant harping about being the senior agent but not by the actual fact that she had seniority. He clearly understands that he has a lot to learn about the job and doesn't bristle at the idea of letting the people with more experience take the lead.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 10:18 AM

So yeah, I'm dumb. I just watched th ep. Maybe you meant Jinx, ormaybe Ashnore. I assumed you meant the actor at first, but I just watched the ep.

edit: and by the way, i TOTALLY less than 3 claudia.

Edited by RichardTheGreat, Jul 19, 2011 @ 10:30 AM.

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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 10:35 AM

Thought last night was the perfect mix of fun and serious. Perhaps the best episode of Warehouse 13 ever.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 11:15 AM

I think it's fair to assume that a prop department person, when given a script that calls for a prop would do some small amount of research on said prop - especially when it's a show that supposedly takes great pride in the details of the artifacts and their histories. I'm not sure where they shoot (probably Canada), but even so, I'm sure it's a fairly large community, so ONE phone call to the nearest music store would have given him the same info I stated.

They were spending a lot of money on SFX just for that one scene, so they weren't about to go to any trouble or expense if they had something sitting in the prop warehouse they could call "close enough", especially if they thought viewers would be distracted.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 12:26 PM

Nobody is going to comment about the fact that the new guy is gay? How often do we get a gay character on Sy Fy?


I think he's going to be a great character and especially a great gay character. He's not stereotypical and I think that the show is making at good job at developing him. He's nice and kind, and he's got his quirks. I hope the show continues to handle his sexuality as well as they did in this episode.

I really like the new guy. I hope he becomes part of team permanently.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 2:26 PM

Did no one catch the way Jinx looked at Claudia when she held his hand near the end?

Jinx is not gay. I'm calling it right now. He said it because it was the best way to defuse the situation. Claudia probably wouldn't have bought anything else he said.
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Posted Jul 19, 2011 @ 2:34 PM

Aw, I saw it as Claudia being emotional and doing an automatic and unconscious reaching out to a family member to share what was going on. And I thought Jenks (how is his name spelled, anyway?) being slightly surprised but totally understanding of the moment. He's definitely becoming family. I hope he gets a love interest - everyone else except Leena has so far.
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