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#241

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Posted May 3, 2012 @ 10:45 AM

As someone who has always rented, and probably always will, this show is more interesting to me than any of the home-buying shows.


Me too.

This is one of my favourite shows because I just can't identify with all the shows about buying and selling property. I'm a professional with a good income, but I choose to rent for many reasons: I like the hassle-free aspect of it, the predictability of the budget, and the affordability of living in a great neighbourhood and having the lifestyle I want. I don't have to pay property taxes, homeowner's fees, variable mortgage rates, interest, broker's fees, and -- most importantly -- maintenace. If something breaks, it's my landlord's problem, not mine. I work hard and play hard and I'm really not interested in having to fix the sink on the weekends.

Rental laws here in Quebec are even more favourable to tenants than the ones in Ontario. All apartments are strictly rent-controlled, landlords can't ask for security or key deposits or last month's rent, tenants have a ton of rights. There's a good reason why Montreal is such a renter's city - according to StatsCan, it has the highest rate of renters in the country, at about the 50% mark in the last census. (It probably dropped a bit in the most recent one, but it's still up there.) And there isn't the stigma attached to it here that there is in, say, many large American cities. Here, people don't rent because they're poor or because they're down and out; they rent because it makes sense.

I've been renting for upwards of eight years, and a rental apartment to me is home, not just a temporary place to endure until I decide to buy. So yes, I think it's important to decorate and make some home improvements. After all, I can take most of what I do with me if I should choose to move, and the small investment into things like a coat of paint is worthwhile to me for enjoying the space.

All this to say, I think Jodi does a great job with the show. She shows prospective tenants how to rethink a space, how a small renovation budget can really improve their enjoyment of a place, and how to negotiate and compromise to get what they want. She takes individual needs and wants into account, as well as the personality of the tenants. And she does it without resorting to many of those made-for-TV tricks like being rude, condescending, or staging "drama" for the camera.

I'd love it if she'd film some episodes here in Montreal.
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Posted May 3, 2012 @ 7:45 PM

Moi aussi! *waves at coffeeloverfrea from the McGill Ghetto*. As a tenant, I adore this show, because we're greatly under-represented in terms of housing porn. Pity party ahead: Not only do we have to exist with laminate countertops, white appliances and often even laminate floors (oh, the horror!), we still constitute a large percentage of the housing market. I have never had a problem with getting approval for any improvements I've wanted to make to an apartment. And ironically, I think that some of us long-standing tenants are in our apartments longer than the speshul snowflakes who outgrow 4,000 square feet because they acquire a chihuahua.
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#243

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Posted May 5, 2012 @ 10:09 AM

Moi aussi! *waves at coffeeloverfrea from the McGill Ghetto*


*waves back at IOU_Payne from the Plateau*
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Posted May 15, 2012 @ 7:37 PM

Tonight's episode with friends Paul and Dan looking for a place struck me as a little weird. If they wanted the swinging bachelor pad lifestyle, why were they looking at single-family home style apartments in the middle of suburbia? I thought Jodi's living room reno was nice, but the "bar" wasn't really a bar; more of a shelving solution to put a few glasses and knickknacks.
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Posted May 20, 2012 @ 5:07 PM

Tonight's episode with friends Paul and Dan looking for a place struck me as a little weird. If they wanted the swinging bachelor pad lifestyle, why were they looking at single-family home style apartments in the middle of suburbia?

Were those the two beefy guys? I remember thinking that maybe they weren't quite the "swinging bachelors" they portrayed themselves as being, if you catch my drift.
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Posted May 22, 2012 @ 2:21 AM

All apartments are strictly rent-controlled, landlords can't ask for security or key deposits or last month's


Interesting. So, do landlords end up going to court a lot when tenants don't behave? Without a deposit of some kind, what protection does the landlord have from a tenant who paints the walls black, or something worse? Going to court isn't free, so it would seem to make sense to have at least a small damage deposit so that many costs could be paid through the deposit without having to go to court.
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Posted May 25, 2012 @ 9:33 PM

Were those the two beefy guys? I remember thinking that maybe they weren't quite the "swinging bachelors" they portrayed themselves as being, if you catch my drift.


Which, if that's the case, why bother going on TV and lying about it? I mean, this is HGTV, not FOX.

Interesting. So, do landlords end up going to court a lot when tenants don't behave? Without a deposit of some kind, what protection does the landlord have from a tenant who paints the walls black, or something worse? Going to court isn't free, so it would seem to make sense to have at least a small damage deposit so that many costs could be paid through the deposit without having to go to court.


Either landlords or tenants can file with the Régie du Logement for any such violation, and if there's no deal struck beforehand, it goes to a hearing. It's not free but it's not particularly expensive -- I think something like $60 to file? They usually rule in favour of the tenant, though, unless it's a particularly egregious case, so most landlords try to talk things out with the tenant first.
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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 2:35 PM

This is one of my fave programs on HGTV. Love Jodi Gilmour. She seems so warm and easy to work with. I had to laugh at that gal who was the radio dj and kept referring to herself as a diva and wanted something divalicious to live in. Oh, and on $800 for a 2 bd, 2 bth place in Toronto. The host must know some places I don't know of.

I hope her boyfriend was going to pay some rent too.
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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 6:55 PM

Were those the two beefy guys? I remember thinking that maybe they weren't quite the "swinging bachelors" they portrayed themselves as being, if you catch my drift.

Which, if that's the case, why bother going on TV and lying about it? I mean, this is HGTV, not FOX.

If they are gay, maybe they're not comfortable saying so on national TV; they gave off the "frat boy jock" "straight-acting" vibe. Different folks are comfortable with different levels of proclaiming their sexuality, even on HGTV.

This is one of my fave programs on HGTV. Love Jodi Gilmour. She seems so warm and easy to work with.

Me too. I love that the newest episodes show the floor plan of the house; I love looking at floor plans.
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Posted Aug 24, 2012 @ 10:43 AM

WOW so glad to see other viewers! I don't think imdb even has a page for this show.

I am stunned at how much more substance this show has in 30 minutes than Love I or List It - another show that combines design with searching for a place to live - has in one hour. LIOLI just does not show much of the actual process of the reno or redecoration or different ideas, but For Rent really lays it out in a very informative and insightful way.

I love the design aspect. It's probably my favorite part of the show. It's just five minutes but there are so many ideas packed in about how to use different spaces. In particular I loved this one idea of combining a play area for children with a living room by having strategically placed wicker boxes and it ended up looking so elegant.

I'm not sure how "fake" this show is compared to House Hunters, though I bet that it's equally not real considering the showing of exactly three places and the very polished feel, but I don't think anything can come off as contrived and scripted as LIOLI. I much prefer the House Hunters-fake to the LIOLI-ratings-grabbing-drama fake, so I was ecstatic to find a show that basically does what LIOLI does - kind of, it's just layout instead of a renovation and renting instead of buying - but in a much less off-putting way.

I dislike the lack of specificity about the location, but I love Jodi. I agree that she just exudes warmth and good humour.

Edited by karicola88, Aug 24, 2012 @ 10:50 AM.

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Posted Sep 7, 2012 @ 12:35 PM

I LOVE this show, and I'm not a renter. I've owned a house for 6 years, and we just bought a new house. But I love the "spaces" they look at. I have rented before- a college apartment, and a first marriage apartment (where we did insist on 2 bedrooms- we loved having that office space.)

I just watched the episode "Outgrowing the Animal House" and I HATED Jodi in it. The couple says they want two bedrooms. It seemed so wrong for her to force the one bedroom idea on an unmarried couple. Maybe they actually don't want to share a bedroom yet? I hope she had conversations with them that that was okay, and it was just the angle of the show- because I would be so offended if a realtor forced a view like that on me.

I know they ended up going with the 1 bedroom, so clearly they are okay with it, but I'm baffled by the choice. Especially since the "office" area was basically the equivalent of a TV tray!
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#252

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Posted Sep 8, 2012 @ 3:39 AM

What I don't get is this - renters here in Chicago do not upgrade the apartments, at least not like they do here on the show. It's up to the landlord to do the renovations to the apartment rather than on this show, the renters do. If that is a common thing in Canada, that's the biggest difference in being a renter in USA vs Canada. I suppose it is because if you are a renter, you may not stay long and all the money you invested is now wasted because you cannot take it with you. So I am surprised that this show makes it look like its a common thing.
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Posted Sep 8, 2012 @ 9:25 AM

Perhaps I missed something but never thought FR implied that tenant renovations were common. Plus, Jodi's designer typically (IIRC) focuses more on soft and hard goods, e.g. fabrics and furniture, and less on actual renovations, with the exception of painting. Can't do much on their budget, even with a designer discount, anyway.

Always thought their purpose was to encourage some minor, inexpensive changes for overall tenant satisfaction/happiness/joy - because if you commit to a place for a year or more, why not enhance your overall quality of life?
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Posted Sep 8, 2012 @ 5:21 PM

maryt: I rented for many years in different communities in Ontario, Canada. I was also an asst superintendant for years. To my experience, it is unusual for renters here to upgrade apartments for the reason you stated. The first time I saw this show, the whole notion of investing dime one into upgrading, especially with the use of unique wallpapers etc. blew. my. mind.
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Posted Sep 9, 2012 @ 7:42 AM

These people didn't invest dime one, either - not including any potential tax effects. Besides that, I'm sure they wouldn't have done anything without the freebie.

It's reality television, i.e. definitely not real. Ultimately, the purpose is to encourage all of us to purchase more of their sponsors' (or mainly Ikea) products.

JMHO.

Edited by gazerguy, Sep 9, 2012 @ 11:02 AM.

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Posted Jan 27, 2013 @ 9:11 PM

What I don't get is this - renters here in Chicago do not upgrade the apartments, at least not like they do here on the show. It's up to the landlord to do the renovations to the apartment rather than on this show, the renters do. If that is a common thing in Canada, that's the biggest difference in being a renter in USA vs Canada. I suppose it is because if you are a renter, you may not stay long and all the money you invested is now wasted because you cannot take it with you. So I am surprised that this show makes it look like its a common thing.

I live in NY and it's not uncommon for renters to fix up their places. It really depends on the renter. One friend of mine, refinished the wood floors in her apartment and repainted all the walls, replaced all the light fixtures and switched out the peel & stick floor tile in the kitchen. Her neighbor replaced the countertop in her kitchen and painted her bathroom wall tile. They both had the landlord's permission but didn't get any discount on rent for it. They both lived in their apartments for over 5 more years so they felt it was worth the investment to live in a great neighborhood and have their apartment be to their liking. I have another friend who lives on the upper east side of NYC and she just replaced all her carpeting at her own cost, she's been in that apartment for close to 10 years. When I was a toddler, my family rented houses and my mom says she always was fixing them up even though they moved every other year. My father had a couple rental properties and he'd split the cost of renovations with any tenants who wanted to make them. Personally, I wouldn't sink a lot of money into a rental and I'd prefer to put my money on things I could take with me but I don't think spending $500 or so is a waste if it makes the place more enjoyable to you.

Edited by Lola16, Jan 27, 2013 @ 9:12 PM.

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Posted Jan 27, 2013 @ 9:28 PM

My parents are renting. They were allowed to hang pictures on the wall but weren't allowed to paint them. All the walls are cream and kind of bland. So, rules are different everywhere & everyone. I can see maybe putting in about $500 if you have it and you plan on staying a while. You might as well make it homey for yourself. Of course, I wouldn't spend thousands even if I was spending years in the place. That seems like wasted money. Why make it so more beautiful for someone else. LOL!!
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Posted Jan 29, 2013 @ 7:55 PM

IIRC, FR almost always used nearly all of their $1K (or so, not including labor) budget on furniture and accessories, i.e. items the tenants could retain. Seems like they usually painted and installed window coverings - rarely any significant upgrades or improvements to the units.
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Posted Jun 12, 2013 @ 3:34 PM

I saw several episodes today,  including the banker from Peru, with wife and baby.
He was a fairly tall guy, probably 6'4" or so, but not a giant.
The finished basement had low ceilings, very low in parts, and he had to stoop a whole lot.

I didn't see the point in "well it has everything on your list," if the guy can't walk unimpeded in his own home.

(They didn't pick this one.)
This issue comes up fairly often on the housing hunting shows, and I've developed a real sympathy for people who can't assume that they'll fit physically into any place they choose.


Edited by lu1wml, Jun 12, 2013 @ 3:35 PM.

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Posted Jul 12, 2013 @ 11:31 AM

They had a bunch of For Rent reruns on yesterday that DVR'ed. I really miss this show. I'm not a renter but I enjoy seeing what Jodi does with small spaces (we live in a 1000 sq foot bungalow so hard to relate to House Hunters most of the time).
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Posted Jul 18, 2013 @ 9:26 PM

My DVR still records the repeats. I'm sorry this show ended. I always enjoyed Jodi, and I liked the apartments and the makeovers. It never felt quite as staged as the other real estate shows.
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Posted Dec 12, 2013 @ 11:31 PM

There were a few For Rent episodes on today that I hadn't seen before.

 

One was a middle aged black man who had been couch surfing and had visitation rights of a 2 year old boy.  His budget was very low (I think around $600) and Jodi found him a little basement apartment.  She really had to work wonders with it and buy all the furniture since he had none.  of course, it was nice.

 

Another was a single female who wanted to be in a hip downtown neighborhood.  She was a freelance writer also low on budget.  Jodi gets her a garden level apartment under a store.  Privacy and safety would be a concern for me.  Jodi removes the drop ceiling to give it an industrial loft effect, paints the kitchen cabinets, replaces the hardware, countertops and sink.  Didn't show the bedroom after the makeover and it didn't have a closet.  

 

The third episode I saw was with this unmarried couple where she wants to live in the burbs (where they currently live) and he wants to live in the city.  She "wins".  He had the weirdest mop like hairstyle and kept making cutesy expressions.  I called him butt face because it reminded me of an ape's butt.


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