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[TWoP Gadget]

Patty goes to extremes to win her case against UNR, as Ellen's season long quest for revenge builds to an explosive conclusion.

Please note the special end time.

Edited by TWoP Gadget, Apr 1, 2009 @ 2:14 PM.

[rebelqueen]

Wow, Glen Close/Patty Hewes is so my goddess. What a gloriously dark and twisty show. I wonder if Patty was lying to Rose about the having her killed to give her closure? I was a bit thrown by the meaning of the conversation between Patty and her very special Head Character.

[SassandtheCity]

That was really good. Until we reached the last half an hour and then everything feel apart with so much pointless twistiness and it was sort of hilarious to see the scenes that were obviously shot for this episode specifically mixed into the scenes shot from the beginning of the season. I just felt like it was building to something and then the last twenty minutes just sort of shot it to shit.

[OneWomanArmy04]

That was such a satisfying finale. I like that everything's out in the open between Patty and Ellen, and I'm glad Ellen didn't really shoot Patty. Although it makes that "I'm arresting you for the murder of Patty Hewes" scene from earlier in the season ridiculous, once we saw how it finally went down. But I'm looking forward to next year, when Patty and Ellen can move forward somewhat as equals.

Edited by OneWomanArmy04, Apr 1, 2009 @ 10:41 PM.

[Elen]

I just wanted to know what was in David's damn present!! She hasn't opened it yet, has she?

Wes surprisingly turned out to be a decent (dare I say, trustworthy?) guy.

And hurrah, Ray.

[SassandtheCity]

I just wanted to know what was in David's damn present!! She hasn't opened it yet, has she?

I, like apparently the writers, totally forgot about this but now that it's mentioned, I want to know what the hell the present was.

[Absurdist]

NO.
Patty did not lie to Ellen about the murder attempt.

That fact established:

A little too neat a tie-up, but at the same time, with the exponential acceleration over the past four episodes, I guess that was to be expected. I suppose even making a happy ending for Froby was nice in a sense.

Well, we know about the car now, and I guess I'm kind of happy about it. Brains splattered on the windshield? Not so super-delicious.

My feeling about Tom being cleared out of the way is totally borne out by the very existence of Tom's sister. I really should have seen that coming.

Kendrick beating up on the ho was kind of pushing it. It really seemed forced. Nothing that was revealed in the run-up about how much of an ass Walter was would make that beatdown make sense. I guess they thought it would be a nice "close parenthisis" for the smackdown he put on that guy in the men's room, but it just seemed lame.

Patty was very much on her game with Dave. Loved that. Finally a man who was actually somewhere near (but let's be real, nowhere on) Patty's level, and it was actually kind of difficult to know who was playing whom.

That Patty could sit there bleeding through that whole conversation without flinching? No way was she lying about the murder attempt. Otherwise, why bring Fiske back in the elevator? I'm still tripping on Patty sitting there with blood pooling in her suit through that whole thing. Glenn Close is Made of Awesome™.

Wes is a stand-up guy. But what was with that red-herring of a Froby-stalking obsession bit? I mean, was that supposed to be this season's Lila-ish touch?

I'm trying to count the people within the story thus far that we've only seen once. These guys are weaving tight stories with very few wasted characters. I admire their economy.

And yes, I, too was wondering if they were going to resolve the issue with the present. I guess we have to let that go, since she's clearly going to be with Wes now.

And dammit, I was still hoping that someone was going to shoot Katie.

Oh, and I guess Claire just has to go away quietly. Wonder how she's going to land after Walt is carted off to prison? Not as though he was going to give her a good reference in any case, but it's going to be difficult for her to present herself as clean once UNR collapses.

Edited by Absurdist, Apr 1, 2009 @ 10:56 PM.

[MyEyesSee]

Not a bad day's work -- Patty took out the judge, Pell, Kendrick and the FBI guy. Did we see Finn get arrested?

Wes is the only one who hasn't been exposed -- and it's interesting that there was no news of a cop being killed, the very cop Ellen was about to meet. Hmm (R.I.P Hamburger Cop, you were truly evil.)

So Frobisher is still around...wonder what's in store for that character, if anything.

Edited by MyEyesSee, Apr 1, 2009 @ 11:05 PM.

[Bullfrog]

I am not sure how I felt about it. I think I might need some time. I think the only thing I found really unsatisfying was that Patty knew about the investigation the whole time -- kind of akin to "and it was all a dream" or "and it was all inside a snow globe." If Patty was never really in any jeopardy, then ... huh?

I LOVED that Patty kicked Michael out, and loved the cigar party (but wondered why Daniel and Froby weren't there). And Wes killing Ketchup -- even though we all saw it coming -- was incredibly romantic. I too am still wondering about the Frobisher Closet of Doom, though.

Last nit-pick -- wouldn't the elevators in such a posh hotel have security cameras? Even if no one saw Patty being stabbed, no one would have seen Patty slump down? Wes saves the day.

I might need to stew on this for a bit. I did think all the important stories were wrapped, and I look forward to seeing where Froby goeth next. Ellen can take a job in backwoods Nova Scotia for all I care.

[Still Sammy]

I...think I loved it? I'll need to watch it again and give myself some time to figure it all out, because right now I'm pretty confused about exactly when Patty caught on to what was going on. Was it not until just before she met with Dave Pell in the church? She had to know by then to take the initiative to record the conversation. Or did she supposedly know all along? If that's the case, it's kind of a cop out. I'll have to rewatch that scene with Tom explaining it to Ellen to wrap my head around it.

Loved how the hotel room scene ended up playing out. I was worried that, with how much they showed throughout the season, the actual events would end up being kind of ridiculous just to keep it unpredictable and up the "fake out" factor. But I found it to make perfect sense and align quite well with the bits and pieces we saw all season.

I still have a lot of questions that I wish were answered here because I don't really care to have them carry over into the new season. What happened to Garrity? Did Ellen ever follow up on her scheduled meeting with Detective Messer, and doesn't she still want to find out who killed David? She didn't mention any resolution at his gravesite. Also, why exactly did Anastasia Griffith get full cast billing this season? I kept waiting and waiting for Katie to play some kind of huge role, and...nope.

I also would've liked a bit more set-up for next season to have some idea of what to expect, like they did in the S1 finale. Still, if not being too specific now gives them more time flesh out a tighter story for next season, then I'm fine with the lack of details.

Edited by Still Sammy, Apr 1, 2009 @ 11:18 PM.

[Absurdist]

…right now I'm pretty confused about exactly when Patty caught on to what was going on. Was it not until just before she met with Dave Pell in the church? She had to know by then to take the initiative to record the conversation. Or did she supposedly know all along? I'll have to rewatch that scene with Tom explaining it to Ellen to wrap my head around it.

Yeah, the timeline is the worst, even with everything revealed. Tom got the gun, but what did Ellen tell him to convince him to get it? And did Tom know about everything by then, and had Ellen decided to flip back to Patty's side by then? I mean, Wes had to have killed Cheesy between the first phone call and Patty's phone call from the office (?) and then came back to the hotel for the little roll in the hay while Ellen was getting the gun from Tom, and Patty had decided before she went to the hotel not to sell Ellen out, and, and…

My head is swimming.

(R.I.P Hamburger Cop, you were truly evil.)

I dunno. I like to think that he was more ruthlessly scared than evil, and not nearly as imaginatively resourceful as he thought he was. Otherwise, I think he would have had the balls to deal with Ellen a little more directly a lot sooner than he did.

Edited by Absurdist, Apr 1, 2009 @ 11:46 PM.

[MyEyesSee]

I'm pretty confused about exactly when Patty caught on to what was going on.

I thought she caught on last week when Phil admitted that Pell told him about the FBI investigation and was the one who approached Phil about the Energy Dept. job.

[mike529]

I thought Patty caught on when she agreed with Ellen's insistence
to go ahead and bribe the judge. When Patty agreed to do so, she told Ellen to "get a good night's sleep...this time tommorow it will all be over". Ellen responded "we can both move on...". Which caused Patty to look at Ellen suspiciously.

I thought Ellen blew her cover with that response. Maybe it was just the fact that she was going along with bribing a judge (which Patty knew in her heart Ellen would never stoop too), but I think the "we can both move on " line did it. Bribing the judge wouldn't have been the end of anything...just the beginning.

I don't know...so confusing! Especially after watching Lost! Two shows in a row that play with timelines! Too much for my lil' brain!

[carrlos00]

Such a great episode, for me, it was truly amazing.

First, I loved that Patty kicked Michael out of her apartment, I know people here like him because he was the only one who could talk to Patty the way no one could, but still, to me Michael is just a spoiled rotten kid, not a man like her "geriatric" girlfriend said he was.

The twists looked convincing enough for me so to pull that off was just great, all thanks to Glenn Close, of course.

Rose Byrne didn't bug me this episode, she pulled her weight in the finale, of course, you can't compare her to the rest, but she was good enough against Glenn, Timothy, etc.

Cheeseburger guy will be missed, but in a way I'm glad he died because he was just so evil and cruel. Maybe Darrell Hammond will take his place as creepy killer guy next season?

Good to see Frobisher again, maybe it's an indication that he'll appear next season? Otherwise, why bother doing a scene with him again?

I really underestimated Tom, and now his scene with his sister makes sense, I thought it was odd to introduce her sister as a high-powered woman working in the government and then drop her like that.

Okay, so many comments left but I'm just shocked that I liked this finale so much, especially since I was going to drop the season midway, so glad I didn't.

[MichaelKnight]

I just felt like it was building to something and then the last twenty minutes just sort of shot it to shit.

I totally agree with this, it's exactly what I was thinking as they cut away to everyone being arrested. Well, Cynthia Shayes' appearance, actually.

I really thought this was a waste of a season, and after having a crash course of season one with my gf this weekend, I can't help but believe what I had been telling her the whole time, "Enjoy it now, because season two is nowhere near as good." The last couple of episodes had healthy doses of Close awesomeness and tonight's ep was no exception, but the story just didn't kick nearly enough ass as season one. Maybe last year was too hard to top? I don't know. I'll be back for season three. The show can't help but go up from here. Even for a low, it's still a good show.

And I am totally and completely in love with Rose Byrne.

[jase-bot]

One thing I love about this show is the "mystery scene" of the year is always what you think it is, at least in terms of the basic idea and the maximum impact. I believed very early on that Patty had Ellen attacked in Season 1 - she did. I believed that Ellen had Patty at gunpoint when we saw "the scene" in the premiere of Season 2 - same thing. Sometimes the obvious is just the beginning of the onionskin. I also think Patty knew as soon as Ellen said "now we can both move on;" the look on her face was incredible, and it was one of those huge moments just like last year and "do you regret what we did?" Glenn Close did such amazing work tonight, from her heartrending goodbye to Purcell and her shoving Michael away, to her numbness when she went to Pell about the FBI.

I think the finale was excellent. Season 2 has not been as good as Season 1, no, and there were a lot of convoluted subplots and extraneous characters, but I think most of it came together very well in the final analysis. The dysfunctional Ellen/Patty bond was reinforced. They used Daniel's exit for some great transformation on the part of the characters. Patty had some incredible scenes in tonight's show. Ellen has crystalized the show's morality and themes (you're ugly, but so is the world). And it looks like Tim Olyphant will stick around, yay! Everything seems to have cleared the decks; Ellen and Patty are on the same terms, Ellen has moved on, and Frobisher may be back in the picture.

No, it wasn't a perfect season, and yes it had flaws. There was no purpose served by having Anastasia Griffith, Ted Danson or Marcia Gay Harden in the main cast. But it was still better than most of what's on TV, and I was glad it didn't sell out by exonerating Patty, or tossing Ellen to the dustbin (at least, I assume she will be back next year), or discarding the tortured link between these characters, and their struggling souls. Put aside the labyrinthe storytelling of UNR/Pell/aerocyte/Finn/Purcell/Claire/Messer and their relative merits or story problems - as a character-based story of two women, Damages has been, still is fascinating TV, at least to me.

Edited by jase-bot, Apr 2, 2009 @ 1:52 AM.

[Rollins316]

Season two was a huge failure IMHO, saved only by the cast having the occassional moment of brillaince through convoluted dreck and the fact that when push came to shove, they didn't whitewash Patty's character and the whole trying to kill Ellen thing.

Did we ever get confirmation towards the rumor, that much of the plot had to be rewritten due to TPTB not getting along with William Hurt and basically writing around his character for the entire middle portion of the series?

The plot for the season was a joke and Ellen was an even bigger joke character with the way the writers wrote her as a petulant child filled with rage without actually intending Ellen to come off like a petulant child filled with rage. Glenn Close had some decent material as far as showing the other side of Patty Hewes, that of wife and mother and philanthropist, but way that the writers pretty much wrote Patty reacting left and right and largely scrambling through the season with no clear gameplan got boring after a while.

The UNR/aerocyte and the flash forward plotlines wer the biggest failures of the season, literally coming off as if the writers were making it up as they went along. To say that the various twists and turns regarding UNR were slapped together haphazardly with no real long-term plan would be too kind; it literally seemed like they were making the shit up as they went along! And the flashforwards, with the pay-off we got, was pretty intelligent insulting as far as the whole thing collapsing into a series of coincidences and fake-outs. The fact that we actually got Patty admitting to Ellen that she arranged to have her murdered was nothing short of a miracle, as far as the writers throwing us viewers a bone.

Luckily enough of a clean slate has been achieved for season three, to get the show back on track. But I doubt the show can recapture the magic that was season one the third time around.

[surfer]

I'm still confused about a couple of things.

So Tom goes to the office to tell Patty some important information, but he is stopped by the security guard. What is this information? Is it regarding the corrupt FBI investigation? Why would he want to help her?

Then Ellen calls Tom and asks for a gun. What exactly would Ellen tell him that would get him to get her the gun?

Some where in there Patty reaches out to Tom and his sister gets involved and suddenly Patty, Tom, Ellen are all off the hook. So was Tom ready and willing to let Ellen threaten Patty and then suddenly Patty calls and everything is fine?

I feel like there's still a lot to be explained, but it seems like next season things will be starting from square one again with no time to fill in any of the blanks.

Edited by surfer, Apr 2, 2009 @ 2:42 AM.

[Rollins316]

I'd settle for a retcon that Tom and Patty were always in cahoots and running their own sort of "long con" against Ellen during the season as far as knowing that Ellen was working for the FBI. At the very least, that would give Tom his balls back and create a new dynamic between the three where Ellen realizes that Tom isn't the impotent whipping boy Patty keeps around because she likes to laugh at him behind his back.

[crazydaizy3]

I...think I loved it?

That's how I feel. There were moments of brillance and others that I was just like "What?"

So was Tom ready and willing to let Ellen threaten Patty and then suddenly Patty calls and everything is fine?

I think that the whole thing was part of the plan. Tom and Patty will always be in it together as far as I can tell. I think Patty started to put shit together back when Tom backed out on her. Maybe not everything, but she had to know something was up at that very moment.

I really liked the end with Patty and Ellen walking. Both moving foward into unknown terrority. Patty's "She'll be back...trust me" makes me think that Patty most definitely is somehow behind Ellen's new job offer.

[Rollins316]

I really liked the end with Patty and Ellen walking. Both moving foward into unknown terrority. Patty's "She'll be back...trust me" makes me think that Patty most definitely is somehow behind Ellen's new job offer.

I thought that was more of a fourth wall breaking remark; IE since Ellen/Patty are the two main characters, that Ellen's departure will only be for a short time and that she's be back in Patty's orbit.

That said, it would be fun if season three is based around the format of Patty versus Ellen in the courtroom. Both ending up on opposite sides of a case and all.

[Dragoonster]

Ugh, I hated this episode. For such a sketchy season I was hoping for some major resolutions, but hardly anything of substance has really changed from last season. Bad cop is dead, a couple new characters, apparently Ellen will get a new job, and that's it. Really awful plotting, from the main to the sub.

I'm not going to watch season 3. Well, maybe the first and last episodes, but slogging through the whole thing won't be worth it if it's anything like S2.

[cybercat08]

I also think Patty knew as soon as Ellen said "now we can both move on;" the look on her face was incredible, and it was one of those huge moments just like last year and "do you regret what we did?"

While this scene was playing I was thinking the exact same thing. The way it was shot immediately brought the scene from last season to mind, and as soon as Ellen said "we can both move on." I knew she had tipped her hand. I knew Patty was at least subconsciously suspicious of Ellen when she had that dream.

I loved that Patty kicked Micheal out of the house. I know some of you may like the character, and I'll admit he has had his moments, but kids like that generally annoy me. He pretends to be an adult, and sounds oh so smart doing it, but he has never been out of his mothers house. It was really satisfying to see the look on his face when Patty told him. I wonder how many days it will be before the girlfriend tells him to go back home to his mother.

I still don't understand why Ellen flipped on the FBI. I am happy with how the scene between her and Patty turned out, I had myself convinced that Patty was going to say that she didn't know what Ellen was talking about when she confronted her, but I am glad that she admitted and Ellen was actually able to get over it. I just don't understand why. And I wonder what Patty's plan was if it had gone the way she thought it would. She has the FBI set Ellen up for bribing the judge, and then as soon as the FBI guy goes in to bust Ellen she has Tom and his sister come in and arrest the FBI guy, and convinces him to flip on his bosses...then what? What was Patty's plan for Ellen if she hadn't come clean?


I think this was a great finale, but it almost seems too clean to me. I mean, everything (besides David's gift) was wrapped up with a nice bow on top. After last seasons ending it wasn't what I expected; it almost seems too final. The producers seem to be relying on the show itself to bring viewers back next year, instead of a cliffhanger ending that leaves us wondering, and while I think that it's a brave move, I am not sure if that will be enough. The first season was brilliant television, but this season didn't really live up to it. I am not sure that I want to come back to see if the show rebounds or not, and this final didn't give me any incentive to come back.

I probably will come back next season, if only because Glenn Close is excellent in this role, but I can't say how long I will stick around.

[lovinbob]

I LOVED that Patty kicked Michael out, and loved the cigar party (but wondered why Daniel and Froby weren't there). And Wes killing Ketchup -- even though we all saw it coming -- was incredibly romantic. I too am still wondering about the Frobisher Closet of Doom, though.

This is a good question. I had wondered about Purcell but forgotten Frobisher was missing, but that says a lot, maybe. These were all men who betrayed or abandoned her (except for Uncle Pete, maybe ... I can't really figure his role out except maybe that he "left" her by dying. Or, she didn't really know about the hit on Ellen but somehow figured it out and that's how he betrayed her? Anyway ...) If these were all betrayers or abandoners, and Purcell and Froby weren't there, maybe she and Froby are now in cahoots. And maybe she is in fact setting Ellen up for a new job (to keep her close) and it is somehow connected to Frobisher's new company.

So in short, maybe Frobisher's scene wasn't such a throwaway/wrap-up after all.

On a related note, I believe that in her mind, Purcell redeemed himself by turning himself in for the murder. BUT, did they ever determine that Darrell Hammond was the actual killer? (Not that it matters in my mind—Purcell is still guilty—but I couldn't tell if Kendrick and Pell were being arrested in part for the murder.)

In general, I also suspect that the dream was revelatory for her, and that it helped her figure out Ellen's plan.

Ketchup Cop's death was a bit anticlimactic to me. It seems like his reaching out directly to Ellen could have been drawn out further. But I agree with the poster above who said that Darrell Hammond can stick around as the resident psycho creep.

I root for Tom. I can't help myself.

Edited by lovinbob, Apr 2, 2009 @ 6:31 AM.

[crazykathat1]

Wow. Just when you think the story is going one way, the episode flips everything on its head. I love how we are led to believe that Patty is lying to Ellen again - "you can trust me...make the bribe" - when really, it was all a set up.

It was a great episode, until the end. I, like others, felt a bit underwhelmed by the finale. It lacked a bit of oomph for me, and felt a bit flat towards the end. Something was missing.

I loved the scene between Patty and Michael when he and his gf arrive at the house! HA. Patty Hewes at her best! I loved Patty Hewes' fear and emotion when being confronted by Ellen. WOW. Glenn Close is goddess. I also suspected it was Messer that Wes shot in the car, but who cares about that (:

I believe that Patty suspected Ellen of being the rat even before the "so we can both move on" line. Patty is not dumb. It is so out of character for Ellen to insist on bribing a judge. I believe that she worked it out during the conversation.

I'm also not so fussed as to when Tom found out of the plan. Who cares? Does it really matter. He found out along the way. So what. I also don't understand why some people hate Michael...

I hope that Patty did order the hit on Ellen. It is still unclear. Is Patty just saying what Ellen wants to hear? I don't want this "did she or didn't she?" storyline to drag on.


The troubling factor for me is Patty being stabbed before she walks into Ellen's apartment. Ok she may go into some traumatic, sub-conscious, epiphanic state. (I don't even know if those are the right words to use). But for that long? Surely the effects of being stabbed would take effect. How you can stay coherent and abled for that long?

I must say...I have enjoyed those flash-forward scenes between Ellen and Patty in the apartment. The music in the background, Ellen being all bad-ass, Ellen playing around with the gun, the whole set up between the two, the whole "I lied too" line, and the shots being fired.... They can play those scenes over and over again. Loved it.

Edited by crazykathat1, Apr 2, 2009 @ 9:31 AM.

[boozilu]

Does it make me a bad parent that my favorite scene was of Patty kicking her son out of the house? As soon as he told her he wasn't going to college, I said to Mr. Boozilu "Then where's he going to live? Not in my house!"

And the worst, for me, was no MGH -- boy she was fantastic as Claire.

[Counse]

Well they tied up a lot of those loose ends, although in doing so, I thought some of it was very. . .anti-climatic like Wes shooting Cheeseburger in the car (saw that coming when Wes caught him in Ellen's apartment), and Kendrick's arrest (seems like that was too mild a wrap-up for the season's so-called "Big Bad")

The twist of Garretty stabbing Patty (with his coke knife no less!) was brilliant. . .I did not see that one coming at all. Nor did I see Wes, of all people, saving Patty. Man does he have a humongous chip to cash in should he need it (and he probably will).

I LOVED that Patty kicked Michael out

Me too! Thank God she kicked him and his annoying hair out. That was a beautiful scene, especially since Jill was all. . .he ain't living with me!! It's all nice to think you're the big, bad man when your Mommy is still supporting you and lets you mouth off isn't it?

I supposed Michael will go to Phil and they can both talk about how stupid it is to cross Patty.

Wes is a stand-up guy. But what was with that red-herring of a Froby-stalking obsession bit? I mean, was that supposed to be this season's Lila-ish touch?

I'm glad Wes didn't get killed but his story arc was a major disappointment. It went exactly like I thought it would (he'd fall for Ellen, end up protecting her against Cheeseburger at his own detriment). Besides we were never told what Cheeseburger had on him or why he was doing all of this in the first place. Set-up for next season? (Is Timothy Olyphant signed on for S3?) Or just careless storytelling/loose ends?

Speaking of the Cheeseburger/Wes dynamic - I CRACKED UP when Wes was all "good luck finding me" and then the very next scene with them, he's in Ellen's hotel room, and continued to stay there. That's a really nifty hiding place you've found there Wes!

If Cheeseburger is such an upstanding cop and there was allegedly a warrant out for Wes, why didn't he immediately call in the cops after Wes kicked him out of the room at gunpoint? Again, it's not like Wes was in a really hard place to get to.

Wes is the only one who hasn't been exposed -- and it's interesting that there was no news of a cop being killed, the very cop Ellen was about to meet. Hmm

I found this incredibly odd too. No news story, no throwaway line. Ellen's chat at David's grave site seemed to imply she's over the whole thing. Again, sloppy storytelling or set-up for next season?

I thought it was weird Kendrick would actually beat up the hooker himself. Doesn't he have the very creepy Darrell Hammond on retainer to do those things?

Never saw the point of Katie at all.

[Bullfrog]

I am confused -- and maybe I imagined it -- but I thought Tom said that Patty knew about Ellen's part in the investigation all along. This is what was so dissatisfying to me, coupled with the fact that Ellen was supposed to be driven by these avenging emotions all season, but all of a sudden a confession from Patty makes her put both the attempt on her life and David's murder behind her. Considering all the railing about wanting to destroy Patty, this seems like a pretty mild resolution. I am not saying it doesn't happen, just that I didn't see any Come to Jesus revelations on the part of Ellen that made this resolution make sense. Also, what about her meeting with Ketchup? I am sure sex with Wes is absolutely fantastic, but it made her completely forget about meeting with the detective who may have solved David's murder (for all she knew)? If I had seen a moment from Ellen where she found out or decided this was all futile, I might have been more convinced.

Maybe the inconsistencies I have been blaming on Rose Byrne's abilities should actually be blamed on poor directing/writing of the character. If I came to work every day and my boss said: "I'm not sure what I want you to accomplish in the end, or how you should go about accomplishing it, let's just see what you come up with" I would probably suck at my job, too. Maybe William Hurt had a point after all.

Even for a low, it's still a good show.

Clearly. I'm still invested or I wouldn't still be trying to figure it all out. It's still better than 80% of the programming on TV.

Speaking of the Cheeseburger/Wes dynamic - I CRACKED UP when Wes was all "good luck finding me" and then the very next scene with them, he's in Ellen's hotel room, and continued to stay there. That's a really nifty hiding place you've found there Wes!

I also thought the scene in the apartment was unintentionally hilarious. Ketchup looked like he had been caught with his hand in the cookie jar -- like he and Wes were playing paintball or something. "Oh, okay, you got me. Hah. I'll just be going now. Good save."

Edited by Bullfrog, Apr 2, 2009 @ 9:58 AM.

[EastSideFluffy]

Wes is the only one who hasn't been exposed -- and it's interesting that there was no news of a cop being killed, the very cop Ellen was about to meet. Hmm

I found this incredibly odd too. No news story, no throwaway line. Ellen's chat at David's grave site seemed to imply she's over the whole thing. Again, sloppy storytelling or set-up for next season?

I think it's a set up for next season because I think they need some continuity in plot lines to make the show tick. Since we know that Wes has Froby ties, I'd love it if the show explored that as a way of keeping Ted Danson involved. And Ellen still hasn't proved Froby killed David so I wouldnt' be surprised if something triggers her to go back to that.

I thought that Patty flipping the FBI investigation around was brilliant. Ellen's ego is totally out of control, and she'll be knocked back down quite a few pegs as a result of that one. She'll definitely be back so their dynamic in season three ought to be very entertaining.

Here's an idea - the writers ought to have Ellen go work for Patty's next opponent. That would be something to watch.

[amabele]

This wasn't as satisfying as I was expecting it to be. The highlight for me was Patty kicking Michael out, I guess. And maybe the dream sequence.