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Posted Mar 19, 2009 @ 8:26 PM

This has all happened before and it will all happen again.


(Recording note: this episode begins an hour earlier than usual, and ends 11 minutes later.)

Edited by TWoP Barnes, Mar 20, 2009 @ 12:53 PM.


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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

Ron Moore you magnificent bastard we LOVED YOUR SHOW!!!!
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

Um. The ending was fucking awful. Just..not good. It was awkward, and strange, and just felt a little (or lot) too much like a goofy wink to the audience. Had it ended a few minutes earlier, with the Adama moment, it might've been okay. I mean, I was okay with everything up to and probably including the discovery of Actual Earth, but then the way it was tied into our reality just didn't work for me at all. In fact, it pulled me out of it so much that the moments that should've been the most emotional, like the deaths of Roslin or Galactica herself, just fell flat to me.

Maybe I need to rewatch it. Or maybe I just hated it and have to deal with my disappointment, and be thankful that I got four seasons of almost pure awesome out of the deal.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

So the Chief founded England, then?
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

Holy crap. My nerdiness soars with the eagles.

I have a few minor issues. For one, I didn’t need the mega-flashbacks around Kara piano-tinkling New Earth coordinates into the keyboard, and I would have liked a little more explicitness in explaining whatever the hell she is. That no one has slapped some sense into Hera to stop running around in warzones and getting kidnapped and shit. I have no idea whether or not I like the 150,000 years later coda.

But that shit’s all petty, because goddamn, that was satisfying. And awesome. And hilarious. I didn’t think I would manage to get as many good larfs as I did, but: Baltar and Six, finally realizing they’ve both been crazy hallucinating, all this time. Adama, essentially telling Pythia to fuck herself, is like “This is Earth, to hell with all that other business.” Cottle left speechless as Roslin gets all gracious and thankful up in his grill. Cavil, realizing the supreme frakked-upness of everything going on around him, shoots himself in the face to be done with it.

And that’s not to speak of all the things that made me deliriously happy. Roslin, who I was long positive would croak before seeing the new home, gets extended clip scenes from Planet Earth and the knowledge that she got her people home. Athena and Helo, happily walking their once-more kidnapped daughter, and Boomer at least getting some minor redemption. Saul and Ellen, declaring their eternal love in some Caprican titty bar, and managing to find some happiness even further out in space than they ever thought of before. Even the shit I didn’t think I would be happy about made me happy: stupid, hateful Cally gets her revenge from beyond the grave, and the Centurions get to fly off into the sunset with their own basestar.

To speak nothing of the fantastical spaceporn this episode. I don’t really have words to describe how on the visual effects team was; do they have some sort of place where I might donate my life savings to them?

And now, I ponder how weird it will be to have Friday nights free once more.

Edited by MarchingOcelot, Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM.

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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

So, Hera is Lucy.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

Well, our cycle is screwed.

Battlestar Galactica, your cast and crew....thank you.


For all the fish.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

Great frakking end to a great frakking show
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

I can't believe that it ended. Good Lord, I wish I was back on the continent.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

It didn't run over 11 minutes here in Canada, but I'm pretty sure we got all of the episode. I wonder if Sci-Fi ran extra commercials that Space didn't?

So relieved to find Helo alive in the end. I was sure he was dead, but without him or Sam (sob), who would bring the pretty gene to humanity?

You know what one of the saddest things about this is? "Found remains of a young woman known as mitochondrial Eve" - this means poor Hera died young. Does this also mean she was the only child born to the Cylo-Colonists or the only to procreate with the Earth2-natives?

I expected to be crying tons during an episodes, but the one time that surprised me was that Baltar's "I know how to farm, you know" got to me.

Just before The Five put their hands into the goo, I said "I hope Galen strangles her with his bare hands." I... didn't realize he'd take me so literally, but as I hate Tory, it made me happy. It's like a little going-away present.

Question for people who know their botany, zoology or geography - were Bill and Laura in Africa (gazelles?), South America (pink flamingos) or did they fly from one to the other? And if so, where did the birch trees come from? I thought they only grew in the northern hemisphere?
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

I .... approve. I love a happy ending.

The best of all possible worlds indeed.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

Frak. It's over. I'm bawling my eyes out. You'd think the extra 11 minutes would've given me some time to collect my thoughts, but no. I'm a mess.

Roslin...Sam...I can't..excuse me, while I got seat in a corner all foetal.

End of line. (er...lines)
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

Wow, I'm...... Wow.

Well done. Must watch again.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

Incredible. Absolutely frakking incredible. I must say, I am 100% satisfied with that ending. And the Ron Moore cameo at the end...picture perfect perfection.

Loved it.

BSG set the bar. THIS is how a show should go out.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

Holy. Fuck.


That was epic. That was epic beyond anything I ever could have imagined.

I believe Kara and Sam are together now. Sam's "I'll see you on the other side" was proof enough for me. Kara was an angel, from the moment she came back, and now Sam is too. They both gave their lives for their destiny and now they're together. Beautiful.

And all my other favorite couples made it too! Helo/Athena/Hera going off to live together made me cry. They so earned it.

Everything was just...perfect. I'm religious myself, so the idea of leaving a lot of things up to a 'higher power' doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:13 PM

Okay, I apologize in advance if this review is something of a jumble, as I am somewhat shellshocked.

First off, the first hour and twenty minutes or so is some of the most exciting, heart-pounding, balls to the wall action ever seen, not only on TV, but on any visual medium. Although some of the space porn strained credulity (can Galactica really absorb that much punishment?), I loved every bit of it, and it was simply a thrilling conclusion to the war between Cylons and humans.

I loved how every character got their moment to shine, from the leads to the guest stars; even Racetrack and Skulls had a fitting end.

...and then we get to the moment where I was literally jumping up and down and cheering....Earth! At last! For anyone who thought it would be a letdown, don't tell me you weren't excited to see the moon! Because it was an awesome reveal.

So, the resolution. First, the negatives. For all the sunshine and verdant greenery, I thought the Fleet's fate was exceedingly bittersweet and bleak. Maybe they finally have peace, but what, they're just going to be primitive hunter gatherers/farmers now? And Tyrol is going to go be a hermit, surviving...how exactly? And Anders.... :(

As for the longstanding mysteries....well, it was a bit of a cop-out, let's face it. Basically, Kara's resurrection, All Along the Watchtower, the Opera House...all amounted to Godditit. Maybe not the supercool awesome answers we were hoping for, but it was done elegantly, at least. I liked that line at the end: "you know he doesn't like to be called that", hinting that maybe there's one more mystery to be uncovered, but alas, that was the end.

Finally, I thought Adama and Roslin's ending was perfect; shouldn't have ended any other way.

Phew, I'm spent. :)
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:13 PM

It's been an honor to have a viewing member of this show and to post here with the rest of you.

"I know a bit about farming."

Damnit Baltar, you just had to find a way make me cry in the last ten minutes of the show didn't you?
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:13 PM

I dont get it.
I dont think I liked the ending at all.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:13 PM

So the Chief founded England, then?

Scotland
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:13 PM

THAT. WAS. PERFECT.

To the cast and crew, thank you so much for all of this.

That was the most brilliant thing I have ever seen and I am so frakking proud of you guys right now. So happy to call myself a fan.

Thank you.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:13 PM

Wow!!! That was just all kinds of awesome. So I guess this will god own as the best BSG ep?
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:13 PM

Waaaahhhhhh my show is over. I'm so depressed.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

Before all the nits get picked...

WOW. Thank you Ron. That's how you do a finale. Absolutely beautiful.

And Bear, if you're reading? You are a frakking genius.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

Words. . .I have none. Okay, I have a few. Fantasic series finale. Maybe the best ever (I am debating whether or not the Buffy finale was better). I started crying like a baby when Starbuck started putting in the jump coordinates. I knew then, that was why the song was so important because it led them to our Earth. I have always thought that these particular humans where somehow our ancestors, and I was right. And now I am so sad because it's over, and so grateful because I got to see it in the first place. Absolutely amazing. My hats off to the entire cast and crew for four seasons of pure genius.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

"All this has happened before"
"But it doesn't have to happen again. Not if we make up our minds to change."

I had that quote running through my mind the entire episode. What an episode. What a frakkin' series!

I would have died for one last Adama-Tigh scene, but when that's the only complaint I can find with a two hour finale, I guess they did a hell of a job.

Thanks to any and everybody who had a hand in bringing my favorite television show ever to my living room each week. I already miss it, but am so glad I experienced it.

Edited by Goob, Mar 20, 2009 @ 11:19 PM.

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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

Quick, easy, early responses:

1) Yes to Cougar Laura.

2) I now feel the need to input my Bob Dylan library into the jump drive. I'm particularly interested in where 'Shelter From the Storm' heads to.

3) The coda at the end -- still rather ambivalent, though...

4) Head Six and Head Gaius together at last? Just how it was meant to be.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

A happy, tearful, wonderful ending to the best show on television.

Thank you Ronald D. Moore and Thank you David Eick. All resentment from Season 3.5 is forgiven.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

That was immensely satisfying for me. Peaceful, lyric, strange. A well-told story. Maybe a little light on nitpicky details, but they're right that I got what I wanted from the characters.

Kara, though -- actual angel of the gods? Fascinating, and inexplicable, but also fair. Poor Lee.

I would like to see a list of the dead, though. Was worried up until the very end that Helo was a goner; surely Skulls and Racetrack weren't the only ones down.
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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

I loathed the ending! I'm so unhappy about the stupid time jump and the 'fake' earth. I feel cheated by so much. Like the series finale of Alias, I will pretend this did not happen(except for the first part, which I loved). At least I don't have to stay up till 2:22 rewatching this.

Edited by rebelqueen, Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:18 PM.

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Posted Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

Wow, that will take time to digest.

At first blush I love the fight sequence, but was disappointed that Cavil killed himself (I would have preferred the writers had found a way to have Laura airlock him after the truce was called instead), and I didn't care much for the stuff on "Earth". But all this may change after sitting on it all for a while and then re-watching.
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