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2-2: "Burn It, Shred It, I Don't Care" 2009.01.14 (recap)


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Posted Jan 10, 2009 @ 5:36 PM

Patty begins to suspect there's more to Daniel Purcell's case than simple murder. Meanwhile, Ellen secretly assists the FBI in their attempt to flip Tom Shayes and use him against Patty.



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Posted Jan 14, 2009 @ 11:19 PM

I enjoyed the surprise! gun closet.

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Posted Jan 14, 2009 @ 11:27 PM

I am excited by everyone, and everything, and I trust the writers completely. But ... William Hurt is boring me to tears! I get that he is still and unreadable and complex. But he's boring me.

And I don't remember Marcia Gay harden's boobs being so va-va-voom. Though I am very happy to see her, and them.

And I can't help that I am glad Tom escaped the trap.

And I can't wait to find out about the crazy gun closet.

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Posted Jan 14, 2009 @ 11:28 PM

I think I'm going to stop trying to figure out this show. *throws hands in the air* It's impossible, at least in this early stage. But it's going to be fun slowing seeing the puzzle take shape.

Some interesting goings on and reveals(that we still don't know exactly what's the what) happened. Things that make you go "Hmmmmm." And "Oh ho!" and "What?!"

I'm telling you, I still heard a sound/groan/faint voice just before Ellen shoots twice.

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Posted Jan 14, 2009 @ 11:28 PM

First episode I've watched ever.

Gun closet was unexpected, and the music made it even better!

I still don't know exactly what's going on, but I want Patty Hughes to be my lawyer.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:10 AM

I think I'm going to stop trying to figure out this show. *throws hands in the air* It's impossible, at least in this early stage. But it's going to be fun slowing seeing the puzzle take shape.


I know what you mean. I don't know why I feel like I have things figured out when things like the gun closet happens and completely destroys my theory about what Wes is doing.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:11 AM

Could anyone discern what Purcell was burning at the end of the show?

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:21 AM

And I can't help that I am glad Tom escaped the trap.

Me too! I know he's done bad, illegal things (assisted dog killing, for one) but I can't help rooting for him.

And Patty, in a weird way. Probaby because she's a character I "know" from last season.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:53 AM

I love this show because even though it has a ton of twists you can enjoy the ride because you know there will be a coherent end (witness how Lost became amazing last season after the writers set out a gameplan). My only complaint is how intrusive the commercials are (I was spoiled last week). I'll have to DVR it and start watching 20 minutes in from now on.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 1:02 AM

Bullfrog, I am with you on Marcia Gay Harden and her magnificent breasts. I promise not to even complain about the timeline jumps back and forth which always gave me headaches last season. I was sorry to seem them back this year but I'll hold my tongue as long as MGH and the girls are featured.

I knew there something with Tom Olyphant's character but just thought someone had him following Ellen. There's definitely something bigger going on.

MVP needs to get rid of whiny, wimpy FBI guy.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 2:07 AM

I assume they were trying to intimate that Patty's son was the one who killed Purcell's wife?

Shorter than me.... blonde hair.... maybe Nordic?

The looks they exchanged seemed like there was a connection (or at least imply one!)

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 2:17 AM

Wow, Wes is even more psycho-stalker than I'd imagined. He just shot to #1 on the list of Possible Gunshot Victims.

I, too, would like to know what Purcell was burning. I mean, I couldn't even tell generally what it was. Papers, his dignity, a puppy? Whatever the case, he is into some deep shit (as well as Claire Maddox's Va-Va-Boobs, apparently). When Patty is through with him... well, you know. She'll be all that much harsher if he is, in fact, Michael Hewes' father.

Patty has her entire office suite bugged? Damn, she trusts no one. That Tom wouldn't know that about her shows how well she plays the game, I guess. (Or perhaps how stupid he is.) See, it's that kind of thing that makes me think Patty pinged on Ellen's squirreliness in the bar last week. She was probably playing Ellen the whole time.

I wonder how the FBI dude's marriage trouble is going to play out, what role it will play in the larger scheme of things.

Finally, does Ellen realise that sound carries outside her apartment door? Oh, and what about the gun exchange? Was that 6 months from now? And why Tom, of all people?!

Really finally: This show is teaching me that I should look away quickly if I ever see 2 or more people chatting in a car. Who knows what mischief they could be planning.

Edited by DEM, Jan 15, 2009 @ 2:23 AM.


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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 2:36 AM

This is Patty's world, and we all just live in it (God help us all)!

Last year I watched Patty Hewes with a sort of horrified fascination; this year, I am kind of in admiring awe of her. It's like rings within rings with her, although she is being played a bit right now. I don't expect that circumstance to last for very long. No one sees (and manipulates) the angles of a thing like Patty, especially when she's in the meat of a case. I'm glad they echoed Patty's trauma -- revealed in the season opener -- in her reaction to the wife's dead body.

William Hurt killed his wife! Well. His character (what's his name???) did at any rate. I knew he was lying about the adultery, he drew that answer out ever so slightly in a way Patty couldn't have, wouldn't have missed. The only thing left to decide is whether or not that was on purpose...

Ah, Tom, it's good to see you are still as big a skeezy jackass moron as last year. His epic ineptitude is never more apparent than in his sporadic (failed) attempts to be 'Patty'. Like a child playing dress-up... the shoes are too big, Tom! And I don't think you'd look too good in a dress! Ellen's response to his blatant lie about turning down the monetary request was hilarious -- her mouth said, "Of course, you did!", her face said, I'd laugh at you if it wouldn't give me away. If Patty manages to survive Ellen's vengeance I'd love to see them share such a moment in the future -- laughing contemptuously at Tom.

Ellen's quite the ruthless bitch, isn't she? She doesn't seethe as much this episode. I must admit, I miss the volcanic current. Glad to see she taps that fine Olyphant ass in the future. His altar-of-hate slash gun closet reveal is done well, particularly the musical cue as the camera quickly cuts to the cabinet's interior. Love those hard-charging guitars that dissipate once the camera comes to rest again on the news clipping, which suddenly don't seem quite so... freaky anymore. Just me?

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 3:21 AM

Marcia Gay Harden is fierce. So flamboyant. I have no idea where that story is going.

It amazes me how much they've humanized Patty this season while making Ellen colder. And it totally works. I find myself actually feeling for Patty.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 3:52 AM

Wow. Some definite WTF moments in this one.

- The Maddox/Purcell reveal
- Wes and his gun hobby
- Tom providing Ellen with her maybe murder weapon

Like others have mentioned, Purcell is looking like a good bet to be Michael's pops.

New (probably wrong) theories:

- Marital issues FBI man is on someone's payroll and isn't long for this world
- Wes was tasked by Katie to watch out for Ellen and off Frobisher
- Uncle Pete is the person Ellen shoots

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 10:16 AM

WOW! Great episode! Loved it! Much better than the first episode! Impeccable writing!!!!

Marcia Gay Harden has arrived! Love it!


And Patty Hewes...well...TheSeasAsleep summed it up:

I am kind of in admiring awe of her.


Love it!

But I wasn't impressed with William Hurt. I don't think he's boring; I just couldn't tell whether it was bad acting, or him trying to act like a liar. It was putting me off. Regarding his character, I sensed that Purcell was lying about many things, particularly during his conversations with Patty, but I never expected that ending between him and Maddox! WOW!

Can't wait for next week's episode!

Edited by crazykathat1, Jan 17, 2009 @ 7:57 AM.


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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 10:34 AM

Man Patty Hewes just kicks 18 different kinds of ass.

Looks like she's being played by Marcia Gay Harden when in reality she was playing everyone to get them to reveal themselves.

Well played, Patty, well played.

And she bugs the whole office?? Damn. Woman is FIERCE.

When she gets through with Marcia *cue theme song*

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 10:39 AM

carrlos00
Gun closet was unexpected, and the music made it even better!

My favorite scene of the episode and the music's timing was great.
I thought Wes will become a shmoopy lover or Patty's undercover informant or both, but not a Frobisher obsessed news and gun collector.

infinitebliss
Could anyone discern what Purcell was burning at the end of the show?


I have pictures. One Two Three
It looks like a sports shoe.
What about the location? Doesn't it resemble Patty's beach house?

StockShorter
The looks they exchanged seemed like there was a connection (or at least imply one!)

Either Purcell is suspicious that Michael is the guy that killed his wife or that he's his son.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 11:01 AM

I thought they were obviously insinuating Purcell is maybe Michael's daddy, why on earth would he think Michael killed his wife, Michael was connected to the wannabe politico guy's daughter, not Purcell.

The whole Patty/Purcell/Maddox thing is crazy, are they playing Patty? The parent company? Each other? What the hell?! As much as I enjoy Patty working every angle I like that her guilt and her emotional ties to Purcell are making her a little more distracted and vulnerable to being played. I also love that she knows that she can't walk around pissing that many people off without them wanting to get some back. Out of self-preservation someone like her has to be constantly paranoid and hyper vigilant, of *course* she bugs her office.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 11:22 AM

Am I the only one who thinks Damages has fallen into schtick?

The first season was refreshing, but the show has quickly become an overwrought parody of itself.

the best thing about this episode was the heaving breasts...from Marcia Gay Harden and the black FBI agent (who seems to have wandered in from a bodybuilding session).

otherwise, I'm finding the second season kinda lame with its stupid machinations and too clever by half approach

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:53 PM

I literally groaned when I realized the hour was over. Really enjoyed it. I love that you don't know everything - you're just given a teaser that could be intepreted in various ways.

My biggest issue right now is with William Hurt. I'm very suprised because I've always considered him a fantastic actor, definitely a reliable actor. But his characterization of Purcell is really distracting and off-putting.

As for Maddox/Purcell - I think Purcell is not telling anyone the whole truth. Maddoxx seemed genuinely surprised when Patty's name came up and she seemed damned scared when she got in the car with Purcell. I think he's playing everyone included the energy company execs.

What about the location? Doesn't it resemble Patty's beach house?

Yeah. I thought it was the base of the tree that he and his daughter planted, but it's not in the pics - so must of been congecture on my part.

Gun closet was unexpected, and the music made it even better!

So my choice band name is Wall of Crazy. How did I come up with that name? Because in every thriller/horror film or show there is a point where we find out a character is crazy because of his Wall of Obsessive News clippings. Now Wes has been added to that list. That was a NICE reveal though.

Oh and Ellen becomes really cold doesn't she? She all but left a $100 bill for Wes when she told him to be gone when she got back.

Edited by shootingstar, Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:54 PM.


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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:53 PM

What about the location? Doesn't it resemble Patty's beach house?


I think it's Purcell's country house.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:54 PM

I must say that I have never been attracted to Glen Close or Marcia Gay Harden. In fact Harden's roles as the pretending to be racist undercover cop on Law & Order SVU and in The Mist made me want to spit nails I hated those characters so much. Now on this show, I find them both highly attractive and I cant take my eyes off them when their on screen. I'm oddly attracted to Rose Byrne this season with that bit of anger and angst she has going on this season as well. I really didnt realise it until this epsiode though. It's really starting to make me wonder about what I find attracrive in the women though.

On another note, I'm glad to see Van Peebles on my screen and I think he is doing a bang up job.

Oddly, I didnt want Tom to get busted either.

Oh and that scene where with Tom, Patty and Ellen with the reveal that Tommy's wife pregnant was one of the most cringe-inducing moments i've scene on t.v. in a while. It's not because it was acted badly but of how Rose played her nervousness into happiness.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 1:21 PM

I think that William Hurt and Bose Byrne are the weak points of the show. Purcell over acts and it's embarrassing, while Ellen is blank faced way too much. But Marcia Gay Harden was great. I really look forward to seeing where her character is going, unlike Purcell and Ellen.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 1:32 PM

I am glad I am not alone on the William Hurt thing. He may turn out to have the most interesting storyline on the show, but that hasn't made him interesting to watch. Case in point, MGH and her boobs were onscreen less than 5 minutes last evening and we are all raving about her and where her storyline is going. I'll try and put it behind me, but I'm also a little deflated as I had expectations that WH was at least up for the job, even if he is a whiner.

Regarding the whiny FBI agent, I think he is one of the series creators. When I was watching some of the DVD extras they showed FBI clips right next to the creators' interviews and he was definitely one of them. I don't know which one, though. Not Debra Messing's husband.

Oh and Ellen becomes really cold doesn't she? She all but left a $100 bill for Wes when she told him to be gone when she got back.


I felt like this scene eliminated Wes as the possible shooting recipient, and Tom as well since he is the one who supplied the gun. But I still did not get as much as I hoped from the clues. It is agonizing having to wait. And I would hope Ellen knows that sex with TO is worth at least $250.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 1:40 PM

Ok, add me to the William Hurt Is Distracting Me With His Weird Acting camp. I actually giggled when he was supposed to be freaking out while relaying how he found the body. He sounded like he was winded from running up the stairs as opposed to upset or sad. That being said, I've never been that impressed with WH, so I'll get over it.

However, the guy who works for Daniel's firm? Sweet Christ, that actor is over playing it. Thank god he doesn't have a mustache because he'd be twirling it in every scene.

Other than that, I loved it.

Oh and Ellen becomes really cold doesn't she? She all but left a $100 bill for Wes when she told him to be gone when she got back.

What does it say about me if the image of Timothy Olyphant as an escort only make him seem hotter?

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 1:42 PM

And I would hope Ellen knows that sex with TO is worth at least $250.

LOL. Well it depends on how long he good he was. I mean, he is distracted with all the (maybe) girlfriend grief, (maybe) revenge plotting and gun collecting, and who knows what took place in the previous 6 months.

What does it say about me if the image of Timothy Olyphant as an escort only make him seem hotter?

I don't know but I'll join whatever club you're in.

I'm new to Damages - will we actually see any of the TO sex?

Edited by shootingstar, Jan 15, 2009 @ 1:45 PM.


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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 2:14 PM

owever, the guy who works for Daniel's firm? Sweet Christ, that actor is over playing it. Thank god he doesn't have a mustache because he'd be twirling it in every scene.


I don't know who that actor is. Physically he reminds me of Chris Cooper, but Cooper is a better actor than that.

Things I enjoyed about this episode:
Marcia Gay Harden (and despite the fact that I'm a straight man...not just for her breasts)
Cold "bitch" Ellen in future version (and developments toward that in "present" version)
The reveal of Olyphant's closet of guns and Frobisher clips (which prompted a "Holy Shit!" comment from my viewing partner Prof.John)
Patty bugging her office (with the return of "Bald undercover ops" guy who revealed the info...did we ever get a name for that character?)
Tom's *just* missing out on getting nailed (that was schtick, though that felt to be the only part).
Mario Van Peebles FBI agent "Put it away" scene

Things I didn't enjoy
William Hurt - Perhaps his need for a lot of time is the reason this isn't working (as well as possibly the reason that Warren Beatty never really did TV)
The overplayingly obvious nature of "William Hurt is Michael's father"
Perhaps someone who knows a lot more about law than I do can correct this but wasn't the way that the bribe scene went down fall into entrapment? If so, the way it went was too "hollywood" but I'm glad that case is apparently gone.

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 3:31 PM

- Uncle Pete is the person Ellen shoots


That occurred to me too! Even if we're both super wrong, we're not alone!

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Posted Jan 15, 2009 @ 3:41 PM

I may be the lone dissenter on William Hurt. He's not a revelation or anything, but I think his performance is supposed to confuse us -- is he loony, a grand manipulator trying to work the angles for good, in over his head, or the ultimate villain of the season? He may not know either; if I recall, his complaint about the role was not knowing in advance all of his character's motivations. It's working for me, because while there are many clues about his intentions, many of them are contradictory.