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Posted Jan 18, 2009 @ 7:58 AM

I think it's only the pilot episode - if they catch the serial killer, if not, it might be a reoccuring story, like Red John on the Mentalist. It's not a supernatural "what I write happens" - just a copy-cat of sorts. They did a story sort of like that on NCIS (with McGee, who writes pulp crime novels).

(You know, you could get the idea from the above paragraph that I watch WAY too much TV...which is pretty much true...)

According to the preview on Youtube, Castle is Steven King-like famous, and gets all buddy buddy with the cop higher-ups, and pursuades them to let him tag along (ride along) with Stana's character to get background for a new series he's writing.

BTW - I hadn't really seen Stana before, until this last Librarian movie with Noah Wiley. I kind of liked her - though I can see this character will be VERY different.
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Posted Jan 18, 2009 @ 11:24 AM

Ah, got it. So I assume the mysterious serial killer must be a great fan of Castle's books to replicate exactly how he wrote it.

About the news of them cutting the season short, seems like the ABC monkeys have yet to learn the lesson they had 2 years ago: Short seasons = fanbase harder to build = low ratings. Or they are setting this up to fail new shows as well (Which is even dumber)

Nonetheless, I have to check it out to get more of an idea of the premise.
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Posted Jan 19, 2009 @ 8:30 AM

Maybe he's a fan. Maybe a fanenemy. The preview info has said that Castle just killed off the main character/detective from his long running series. That could've pissed off his slightly bent "fan". It also occured to me that the killer might/could go after Castle in the same way that lead character was killed, to give it a scary climax. But that's totally a guess, based on nothing but my own lame imagination.
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Posted Jan 19, 2009 @ 2:19 PM

It's good that they are giving Stephen King a mention since it sounds like they are stealing a good portion of their ideas from "Misery."
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Posted Jan 20, 2009 @ 5:46 AM

About the news of them cutting the season short, seems like the ABC monkeys have yet to learn the lesson they had 2 years ago: Short seasons = fanbase harder to build = low ratings. Or they are setting this up to fail new shows as well (Which is even dumber)


I think it was more about cost than anything else, it's not like they decided it was a better strategy to have less shows. They cut the number of shows from every mid season show, not just Castle. Besides if it doesn't have decent ratings within the first few episodes it will probably get cancelled anyway so it doesn't matter if it has 10 or 13.
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Posted Jan 21, 2009 @ 6:55 AM

It's good that they are giving Stephen King a mention since it sounds like they are stealing a good portion of their ideas from "Misery."


Stephen King may actually get a re-occuring cameo, if I remember correctly. I read somewhere that Castle has a weekly card game with other (real) mystery writers - I think Sue Grafton and Dan Patterson may also have been on the list...I don't know if they'll show it just in the pilot, or if it will be an ongoing thing (I certainly hope so).
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Posted Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:45 PM

I read that also, that would be a fun gag.
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Posted Feb 12, 2009 @ 10:37 AM

I love NF and I'm excited for this show. The previews really give it a "Moonlighting" feel as it was mentioned earlier on the first page of this topic. I LOVED LOVED LOVED "Moonlighting" back in the day and I could see this show becoming popular if they sell it to the right market. It is being HEAVILY promoted by ABC right now during afternoon soaps so you can see who they are trying to get interested in this show. Also, NF used to be on ABC on One Life to Live soap so maybe they figure they can pull his fans from there in as well.
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Posted Feb 12, 2009 @ 4:22 PM

Speaking of the card game bit - here's the link to a clip that has Castle playing a card game with James Patterson & Stephen J. Cannell and talking about his "idea" for a new story, though I suspect he's actually running by them what's actually happening, since it's the premise of the show.

I wonder if that's what's going to be the running thing - him running supposed "story ideas" by famous mystery writers in his card game, and getting ideas about whatever real mystery he's working on (or supposedly "observing") with the police.

Edited by AllShiny, Feb 12, 2009 @ 4:24 PM.

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Posted Feb 12, 2009 @ 4:31 PM

Do I trust ABC enough to get sucked in by another show? *sigh*. ABC has really screwed me over the past few years. But I'm not butthurt enough to not give this show a try.
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Posted Feb 12, 2009 @ 4:45 PM

I don't know if I trust them or not - and having fewer episodes to be able to hook viewers with makes me nervous. But at LEAST they're advertising the heck out of this show! And they didn't put it up against American Idol or one of the good CSIs.
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Posted Feb 18, 2009 @ 11:17 AM

Here's a little snippet saying that Castle is one of the bright spots of the second (spring) season.

Castle, ABC

Nathan Fillion stars in this mystery/comedy as a famous author who switches from inventing murders to investigating them.


Having watched CBS and Fox prosper with such sort-of-romantic, star-driven mysteries as "The Mentalist" and "Bones," ABC gets in the game with "Castle." They've certainly hired the right star for the task in Nathan Fillion, who seems set to move past his "Firefly" cult status to mass appeal. Throw in an excellent partner in Stana Katic as the cop who has to put up with Castle's amateur sleuthing and you have the makings of an entertaining weekly diversion.


To be sure, if what you want from TV is originality and innovation, you should look elsewhere: "Castle" is the electronic equivalent of comfort food. But these days, who couldn't use a little comfort?


Most of the things I've been reading seem to be positive about the show. Saying it's not ground breaking, but in the vein of The Mentalist and Bones - two shows I happen to love. Personally, I'm all about comfort food.

And while the folks here at TWOP, on the main page, seem to be interested...not much interest yet here on the forum. But I'm starting to get excited. Especially after seeing the card game scene (link posted above). It seems to have potential.
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Posted Feb 22, 2009 @ 12:18 PM

OK, so I'm like the party guest who keeps up a running monologue and doesn't take the hint that nobody else is interested in the topic. Well, maybe once the show starts.

From a Tampa Bay Online article about Stephen J. Cannell that confirms that the other two poker-playing buddies of Castle's (along with Cannell and James Patterson, as seen in the link above) are Sue Grafton and Stephen King. A brief quote:

Debuting March 9, it stars Nathan Fillion as Rick Castle, a crime-solving crime novelist who sometimes gets help from his poker-playing buddies, played by real crime novelists James Patterson, Sue Grafton, Stephen King and Cannell.

"It's just a cameo, but it's a lot of fun, and the series is being compared to 'The Rockford Files,' which is always flattering," says Cannell, who was in Tampa recently to speak at the Tampa Friends of the Library's Four Seasons Luncheon.


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Posted Feb 22, 2009 @ 12:46 PM

No, Allshiny, I'm interested. When does this air, anyway?

Sue Grafton is a lovely person - at least that time that I met her at a book signing. It would be so cool to have a rotating group of mystery writers pop in for cameos.

Edited to say that I should have read the other posts more closely. Mea culpa. However, following the links made it easy for this lazy person, so thanks! And Greg's mom from Dharma and Greg will be Castle's mom! yay!

Edited by kimmako, Feb 22, 2009 @ 4:58 PM.

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Posted Feb 22, 2009 @ 1:23 PM

Monday, March 9th - two weeks from tomorrow - at 10:00 PM EDT (that's right - daylight savings time starts the weekend before, if you can believe that). On ABC. You can see some previews (they've got some interviews with the stars up now) at the official site.

It's on after Dancing With the Stars, so that's got to be good for it's chances, right?

Here's the schedule from the official site:

Episode 1 - The Pilot - March 9, 2009
Mystery, Horror Novelist Richard Castle is questioned by police after two murders bear a strong resemblance to the murders in his novels. Later, Castle finds himself helping to investigate the crime displaying a unique insight into the true motivation of the killer.On the home front, Castleís mother has moved in with him and his daughter Alexis. Both are concerned that he hasnít been writing for some time and his publisher (and ex-wife) is putting on the pressure for his next novel.

Episode 2 - Hell Hath No Fury - March 16, 2009
When a body is found wrapped in a rug on the sidewalk, Castle and Beckettís investigation takes them deep into the cutthroat world of New York City politics. As the new partners dig beneath the surface of the case, they discover a world of high-priced escorts, arrogant tycoons, and corrupt private investigators along with the true cost of betrayal.

Episode 3 - Nanny McDead - March 23, 2009

Episode 4 - Hedge Fund Homeboys - March 30, 2009

Episode 5 - A Chill Goes Through Her Veins - April 6, 2009

Episode 6 - Home is Where the Heart Stops - April 13, 2009
Castle and Beckett are stumped by a series of cases involving home invasion jewel heists and murders..

Episode 7 - Always Buy Retail - April 20, 2009

Episode 8 - Ghosts - April 21 2009
Castle helps the detectives search for the murderer of a environmental activist bomber who was found drowned in a tub of motor oil.

Episode 9 - Little Girl Lost - Air Date: April 28, 2009
Castle continues to help solve the murder of an environmental activist bomber.

Episode 10 - A Death in the Family - Air Date: TBA

Edited by AllShiny, Feb 22, 2009 @ 12:58 PM.

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Posted Feb 22, 2009 @ 6:17 PM

Video > Castle: Behind The Scenes
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Posted Feb 23, 2009 @ 9:45 AM

Thank you all for the links. Getting me very hyped for the show.

not much interest yet here on the forum. But I'm starting to get excited.

I knew the show was coming (always keep up on the Fillion sitings) but since I don't watch anything (anymore) on ABC I had no idea it was coming up until I saw an ad on ESPN. I don't know how much I can get my hopes up but it is certainly falling into a time of the year when all my shows have had their season finales--the downside of primarily watching basic cable original series. (And, hey, if I turn on the TV just a few minutes early to see how my forum-name namesake did on DWTS, that's not so bad either.)

Edited by LT, Feb 23, 2009 @ 9:46 AM.

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Posted Feb 23, 2009 @ 1:04 PM

I'm excited to the point of squeeing about this show. I adore Nathan Fillion and am thrilled to finally see him get a star vehicle on a major network. And I love the premise of Castle since I'm both a novelist and a big fan of male/female crime-solving teams, going all the way back to Moonlighting and Remington Steele. I wasn't sure about the actress playing Beckett at first, but after watching the clips and behind-the-scenes stuff, I've warmed up to her. She seems like a good foil for Nathan. Although we haven't seen much of Castle's other relationships w/women (his teenage daughter, his ex-wife/editor, his Broadway diva mother) in the promos/clips, I'm very interested to see his interactions with all of them. Roll on, March 9th!
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Posted Feb 23, 2009 @ 2:55 PM

Don't forget Sue Grafton! (OK, only limited scenes - still.)

Actually, that clip with of the poker game, with the "other" writers showed a different, more serious side to his character, and it's really what made me start getting excited, because it showed more than just the mouthy character he was with Beckett.

But it certainly does seem to have that Moonlighting/Remington Steele dynamic to it. I really hope this is a hit (quality and ratings wise).
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Posted Feb 24, 2009 @ 9:33 PM

Count me among the excited! I just found out about this show this evening and promptly scrawled "CASTLE!" across my calendar for the 9th. For me, it doesn't get much better than NF so I'm sure I'll be highly entertained if not completely blown away. High hopes here.
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Posted Feb 26, 2009 @ 11:46 AM

Entertainment Tonight has a clip and an article on Castle! And it's good just to see Nathan Fillion...for some of us.

Hopefully someone else will keep an eye out for links next week while I'm on vacation!
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Posted Feb 26, 2009 @ 12:41 PM

Yowsa. Can NF look that deeply into my eyes at some point in my life?
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Posted Feb 27, 2009 @ 4:10 AM

For whatever reason this show is pushing a lot of buttons.

It's got the utterly meta idea of the main character being a mystery writer and his card game with all the other top-flight mysery writers; Nathan Fillion is great fun; the entire serial killer acting out his novels (or whatever the exact details are) seems sound.

If they want a solid picture of New York I think the writers should check out Lawrence Block's Scudder books. They're some of the best crime fiction I've ever read, and do a fantastic job of showing New York City changing from the '70s to today.

Overall, looking forward to it. Anybody get their hands on the pilot script? SpoilerTV had it, but it got taken down before I could read it.
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Posted Feb 27, 2009 @ 8:56 AM

For whatever reason this show is pushing a lot of buttons.

Yeah, and they throw around Nick & Nora and His Girl Friday when talking about the show. A lot to live up to, but a sure way to drag me in.
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Posted Feb 27, 2009 @ 9:10 AM

While NF isn't quite Cary Grant - he certainly has charisma. Stana as RR? I'll reserve judgement. But it's the writing that made His Girl Friday - the quick, witty banter that so many have tried (especially since Moonlighting) and so many have failed to pull off.

They have certainly been raising the bar on themselves. Some of us will stick around if the pilot doesn't live up to the expectations they've raised sky high - but I don't know how many.

I hope this is all based on confidence, not bravado.
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Posted Feb 28, 2009 @ 3:20 AM

When I did a search for "Nathan Fillion" on my tv guide, it shows that he will be on The View on 3/6.
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Posted Feb 28, 2009 @ 4:37 PM

Nathan Fillion is scheduled to appear on Jimmy Kimmel Live March 4th.
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Posted Mar 2, 2009 @ 12:18 AM

I am getting so freakin' excited about this show--whenever I'm fast-forwarding through commercials, I stop and rewind to watch the ads for Castle. True, I'm a slut for NF... Two Guys & a Girl, Firefly, Drive, Dr. Horrible. But it's more than that. It goes back to what others have referenced: the Scarecrow & Mrs. King, Remington Steel, Moonlighting, McMillan & Wife, Thin Man precedents. If ABC blows this one, after this kind of build up, they have nobody to blame but themselves, because I was trying to set a season pass on my Tivo before it could even find the show!

I love the bullet-proof vest that says "Writer" instead of "Police."
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Posted Mar 2, 2009 @ 2:28 AM

Nathan Fillion is adorable. Same kind of flirty charm Simon Baker has in The Mentalist. Damn, I think I'm going to fall in love again.

eta: TV Guide (March 9-15 issue) agrees. Matt Roush gives this show a thumbs up saying, "...ABC's Castle takes nothing (let alone itself) seriously, yet with luck could emerge as a Mentalist-style sleeper hit."

Edited by YumYum, Mar 3, 2009 @ 3:56 PM.

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Posted Mar 4, 2009 @ 11:56 AM

Discuss Mr. Fillion in our Castle forums, and check back soon for our recap of the first episode!

Looks like we get recaps. I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm happy.
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