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[TWoP Barnes]

(TVGuide.com says:) Episode Detail: Show Me the Mummy - Eureka
A search for a mummy ensues after a famed archaeologist opens the tomb of an Egyptian queen at Global Dynamics. Zac Santiago, Adrian Hough.

[jediknight]

I liked Fargo's continued devotion to Stark. First it was with the hallway and wanting to make the letters bigger, and everything to be perfect. Then it was when he saw Stark and said "This is Heaven". And finally his speech to Ali about Stark being alright. I always liked the Stark Fargo relationship.

Speaking of Fargo, this week just like last week continues to prove Fargo's grandfather wrong. Last week Stark told Fargo "I always knew you had it in you", and this week Carter's voice kind of cracked when he asked if Fargo would be okay. Please tell me I'm not the only one that noticed that.

Henry keeps growing more suspicious of Eva. Now just tell someone Henry. Although it would be cool if he told Zane, and Zane is just playing Eva to find out what is going on.

[mustbekarma]

and this week Carter's voice kind of cracked when he asked if Fargo would be okay. Please tell me I'm not the only one that noticed that.

I noticed it, too.

I think I can tolerate HoloStark once and only once. It was touching tonight, but it could grow old very quickly. I call that Allison uses the holodiamond to hold onto Stark for as long as she can, and when she destroys the diamond as a sign she is ready to move on and be with Carter.......... Well, I wouldn't find that touching, I'd be pretty annoyed, provided I'm still watching the show by that point. I just want to call dibs on that plot point and see if it pans out that way.

I was pleasantly surprised by this episode. The promos really did make like this episode would be pure cracktastic fun. It was a pretty nice balance of pathos and humor.

[AimingforYoko]

I think I can tolerate HoloStark once and only once.

I think it was supposed to be a parallel with Fargo's encounter with the 'Mummy'. They think they're cracking up, but there's actually a much more mundane explanation. Well, mundane for Eureka anyways. I like that they showed Allison and Fargo grieving, I was worried they were going to gloss over that. I hope they get beyond the 'free-spirit' sister and the 'uptight' brother dynamic with Carter and Lexi. That'll get old real quick.

[ms biscotti]

The whole episode didn't do much for me and the Stark hologram scene was pretty maudlin at the end. About the only thing that progressed the story any was Alli saying goodbye to him, which I didn't really expect.

The main story was pretty blah.

I am guessing that when Eva gets information in bits and pieces, it will be Carter that figures it out eventually.

Meanwhile, in the sheriff's office, there appear to be black and white portraits of deceased US presidents on the wall. One looks like Kennedy, and one like Nixon. I could not grab a clear view of the third one. Anyone else see these? Have these been discussed before?

[Wolfwood2]

A typical lighthearted Eureka plot undermined by something that stinks being dragged across it, dragging down the entire episode. There is a name for my pain, and that pain is "Lexi," as the show calls Carter's sister. Henceforth I will refer to her as "Poochie". You'll remember "Poochie" of 'The Simpsons' fame. Poochie was the lame dog character added to Itchy and Scratchy cartoons to make them 'cooler', quickly bombed, and was dropped as fast as possible.

I ask you, what is Poochie doing in Eureka? It's supposed to be a top secret town that you need permission from the DoD to live in. Has that been forgotten? I suppose Carter would be allowed to have a family member live there with him, but she just showed up out of the blue. How did she even find the place? And why no amazement at the talking house, the swarming insect plague, and the general science fiction nature of the town?

Is Poochie that stupid? That unimaginative? So far her only function appears to be someone to allow Carter to make lame 60's sitcom cliches with. Oh, he doesn't like her music. He's such an old fuddy-duddy. Ho-ho-ho! Let's hope Mr. Roper doesn't find out she's an unwed mother.

Gah. Poochie should be on a show like 'Everybody Loves Rayomond'. What is she doing on Eureka? Have the writers gone insane?

[Fabrisse]

Meanwhile, in the sheriff's office, there appear to be black and white portraits of deceased US presidents on the wall. One looks like Kennedy, and one like Nixon. I could not grab a clear view of the third one. Anyone else see these?

I saw them too. I assume it was Johnson between Kennedy and Nixon and there's probably Ford on the other side of Nixon. All government offices are required to have a picture of the President; some keep old ones.

Tonight's was fun, but then I always like schlock Egyptology. I'd have liked a Stargate glyph somewhere, but I'll hold onto Doctor Who from last week.

And on the mean side, was Lexi doing her yoga with really poor form?

Edited by Fabrisse, Aug 26, 2008 @ 9:41 PM.

[Charmed Hour]

The goodbye speech from Nathan actually had me shedding some tears. I think that speech was the writer's way of "resolving" Allison's grief so that she can move on. I know there are a lot of Allie-haters here, but I think Allison did a good job of showing emotion.

MustBeKarma - The writers would be stupid to have her destroy the diamond at any time (can you even destroy a diamond? Those things are pretty tough). It would seem like she is killing Stark all over again.

I call that she will wear it until she decides to move on, at which point we will see her slowly putting it into its box after shedding a few tears (perhaps even kissing it tenderly and whispering "Goodbye, Nathan.") It's upsetting for me to contemplate right now, though, since I love Stark so much!

I also think it is sweet of Fargo to be so concerned with a memorial, although I wish Henry and Carter had looked more interested in helping out. Instead, they seemed to be simply humoring Fargo.

It seems that Fargo seeing Stark in Heaven will function like Allison's logic necklace - it will resolve the grief for him so that it won't seem jarring when Fargo goes back to being cheerful and upbeat.

I was surprised at how nice the Fixer was being. I wonder if they are going to take her on as a permanent character? Or if her husband's death figures into the plot later - like he was killed in some kind of scientific experiment and she is secretly investigating that while in Eureka?

[ProfCrash]

Good episode. I liked the balance between the humor and the sorrow. It would have been really easy for the writers to go too far either way. Good work there.

I figured that the diamond would explain why Allison was seeing Nathan. She was holding it the first couple of times she saw Nathan and it seemed like the most appropriate explanation. There was no way Nathan would not use the logic diamond to store something for Allison. It was touching though and very well handled.

I smiled when Allison was about to admit that she was seeing things only to have Jack and Henry say they saw Nathan.

I find it strange that it is more natural to use first names for Nathan and Jack now then it was two weeks ago. (shrugs)

Once again Jack finds the solution to the problem. People seemed to be taking Jack a bit more seriously this crisis. No one really was brushing off his ideas.

God, I miss Nathan.

Overall a good episode.

[TWoP Barnes]

Henceforth I will refer to her as "Poochie". You'll remember "Poochie" of 'The Simpsons' fame. Poochie was the lame dog character added to Itchy and Scratchy cartoons to make them 'cooler', quickly bombed, and was dropped as fast as possible.

NOTE: About the nickname thing...I know it's a TWoP staple, but it can be off-putting to new people when they come in and try to figure out what everyone is talking about. Let's avoid that, here.

[CreedogV]

I think this was a better episode. They handled Stark's death well. Fargo was well in character and Allison was heartbreaking this week.

There is a name for my pain, and that pain is "Lexi," as the show calls Carter's sister. It's supposed to be a top secret town that you need permission from the DoD to live in. Has that been forgotten? I suppose Carter would be allowed to have a family member live there with him, but she just showed up out of the blue. How did she even find the place? And why no amazement at the talking house, the swarming insect plague, and the general science fiction nature of the town?

That has been loosened a bit. I think Eureka's more "hidden in plain sight." Carter's ex-wife had no trouble finding the place, though she did show appropriate bewilderment at the town. I figure Lexi's gotten the story on the town. She might have even been debriefed. But that's just fanwanking. I'll agree she's not adding much to the show yet except hippie cliches.

The plot was run of the mill, and it didn't stretch the imagination as much as this show sometimes does. The direction was as good as it's ever been tonight. Solid episode.

[shapeshifter]

I call that she will wear it until she decides to move on, at which point we will see her slowly putting it into its box after shedding a few tears (perhaps even kissing it tenderly and whispering "Goodbye, Nathan.")

But then it would still exist with the potential of Stark's hologram being resurrected. How about it inadvertently falls into a lava tube that connects to the Earth's core? Or maybe she loses it during a space walk.

[Raingirlkm]

Anybody else have Hathor flashbacks when the tomb was opened?... Anyone?... Okay, just me then...

CreedogV
I think this was a better episode. They handled Stark's death well. Fargo was well in character and Allison was heartbreaking this week.

ITA, I liked this episode overall, including Alli's controlled emotions when Jack gave her the diamond. I could believe she had herself under tight control to get back to work and that control was shaken by the posthumous gift.

As far as Eva moving from Henry to Zane, I think she severely underestimates Zane. I know he's not real popular around here but you got to admit he is a bit of a con artist himself so I don't see him being conned easily.

Those were some tough bugs if they could dent the freezer door!! As they slowed down, though, I was reminded of when microwave popcorn slows, then stops popping. So I went from creeped out bugwise, to "Whoa, tough bugs!" to nearly laughing out loud.

[MrPissyPuppy]

I call that she will wear it until she decides to move on, at which point we will see her slowly putting it into its box after shedding a few tears

I predict they'll eventually stick it into the super dooper computer. And at some point Stark will be the Ghost in the Machine and solve some serious problem/save Eureka/save Allie.

Not a bad episode. Glad that they didn't just gloss over Stark being gone/dead & showed people mourning him.

[pinkgodzilla]

...Johnson between Kennedy and Nixon...

I thought Kennedy was next to Nixon. So the first president is someone before Kennedy. T. Roosevelt maybe?

Lexi can die. If I had a sibling who first just drops in then tries to tune in for an extended stay, criticizes everything I think or do, is an inconsiderate bitchoid playing music at all volumes wrapped up in her own little world and starts rearranging my house I would need to serve some time cause there would be some murdering done in that house. Of course a creature such as she would never have been allowed to stay beyond a single day, I would have already shown her the door and pointed to the hotel/B&B down the street.

Eva's personality tonight was so far from her usual form I couldn't understand why more people weren't giving her the old stink eye.

Meh episode what with the sister and all, but I did love the popcorn bugs in the freezer. Fargo dismantling the drinking fountain was pretty awesome.

[captain sam]

I was pretty bored, actually. I didn't care about any of it, except perhaps Fargo's devotion to Stark's memory. It was very sweet of him. But the rest--Lexie's awful music (not because it was "Indian" but because I thought it was truly bad), Allison's mourning, Eva's mysterious plan of Evil, the bugs--I just didn't care. Maybe it's because I just came off a Friday Night Lights marathon, but none of the characters were particularly pulling me in this time.

Not even Jo, because you know what she does this season? Either she gets rid of some exposition, or she ducks and covers. The Jo of season one would not have swatted ineffectually at the bugs. Season one Jo would have dived on Zoe and covered her from the flying menace. Or hell, she would have dived on the pregnant lady. Jo is a woman of action. Or she was. Bleh.

[kzoogal]

Anybody else have Hathor flashbacks when the tomb was opened?

I was actually reminded of Buffy's Inca Mummy Girl and whatever episode of Angel where people were inhabited by parasites that made them drink colossal amounts of water and then explode. I don't mean that as a criticism, really; there are only so many ideas under the sun, the writers' challenge is to see what they can do with it.

[comfortablynumb]

Anybody else have Hathor flashbacks when the tomb was opened?

Don't even joke about that. The bitch is dead. Dead, I tell you! *clears throat* Sorry. I got a little carried away there.

I think that I would have to wait until next week to see, but this felt very much of a transition episode with the mummy as filler. We needed to see Allison (and Fargo) mourn Nathan's loss before being able to move on with the seasonal arc and we did. I'm not saying that they're going to forget Nathan existed (though I wouldn't be surprised - it wouldn't be the first time that happened on a show) but now that they have devoted an episode to saying goodbye, the show can move on.

Add me to list of people who find Lexi annoying. I like the denizens of this town and we don't spend nearly as much time with them as I would like to. Adding the sister into the mix isn't necessary in my opinion (it also doesn't help that her personality grates and it seems that she's affecting Zoe as well). I know that she throws a wrench into the life of Carter, but I think that he personally has enough wrenches already. He doesn't need one more. I also felt this way when his ex wife came to town.

As for the 'A' plot - I usually tend to leave my intelligence at the door for these kinds of episodes (my degree is in archaeology) and for the most part I succeed and can enjoy the show. But good Lord there were times that I yelled at the TV. And why exactly does GD employ an Egyptologist? Anyone?

[stuartnz]

Along with Best in Faux, this is my favourite of this season. Light B-grade fun, with some interesting advancement in the Eva arc. Henry's refusal to work for her was encouraging, and Zane's curious glance after acccepting the folder from here suggest that he might be starting to see through her too. I'm definitely interested to see where it goes from here.

I will also add my vote to all those wishing that Lexi either vanishes or starts to add to the episodes rather than detract from them.

[Sefdawg]

I liked the episode. The mummy plot was ok, but I felt the main purpose for this ep was the mourning and now we can move on without being stone cold to Nathan's memory.

Now 2 Fargo's can say they've been cryo-froze.

Is it just me, or did the sheriff's office seem really big. I mean much bigger than it has been?

I realize that she may be smoke screening a bit with the "I know how you feel" speech to Allison, but I am starting to think Evil!Eva is not so Evil after all. I think she is definatly after something, but it may not be sinister in the end.

I'm meh on Lexi right now. She was introduced in the middle of a rather critical arc. I'm willing to give the writers some time to develop her now that we have gotten through it.

[LT]

I was pleasantly surprised by this episode. The promos really did make like this episode would be pure cracktastic fun. It was a pretty nice balance of pathos and humor.

The promos made me nervous about the show forgetting Stark right away and this episode really worked for me by really saying goodbye to Nathan. However, hallway? I think the guy deserves a wing--he saved time/space! Of course, maybe that offsets the artifact.

I usually tend to leave my intelligence at the door for these kinds of episodes (my degree is in archaeology) and for the most part I succeed and can enjoy the show. But good Lord there were times that I yelled at the TV.

Yeah, I only read books (and novels at that) about Egyptology and that part of the episode was infuriating. Move a tomb from Egypt? No fill/rubbish in the doorway? No seals on the doorway to indicate the priests closing the tomb? Just a pristine, ready-to-open and release-the-bugs tomb? I'll let it go since it wasn't the point of the episode but it was just too easy.

As far as Eva moving from Henry to Zane, I think she severely underestimates Zane. I know he's not real popular around here but you got to admit he is a bit of a con artist himself so I don't see him being conned easily.

I dunno. I really like Zane but I think his falling for Eva's line will be his (needed) comeupance. He does get off on people complimenting his skills so I can see him preening in front of Eva's praise for being the "right guy" for the job.

I really was willing to cut Lexi some slack last week but, boy, that is one self-involved sister, isn't she? And:

And on the mean side, was Lexi doing her yoga with really poor form?

It is easy to reach the floor in the triangle pose if you bend all forward at the waist. Yeesh. Not good for the baby doing it that way either.

Once again Jack finds the solution to the problem. People seemed to be taking Jack a bit more seriously this crisis. No one really was brushing off his ideas.

For every problem Jack had the solution. That was great. FF was really good at showing that each time Jack had the answer Eva would trust him a little bit more with knowing what he was doing.

Edited by LT, Aug 27, 2008 @ 9:00 AM.

[ms imaginary]

I think that I would have to wait until next week to see, but this felt very much of a transition episode with the mummy as filler.

This was exactly what I said when the episode ended. That wasn't bad, but now I'm curious to see how the rest of the season goes without Nathan/Nathan hologram. Agree with everyone who said we needed the mourning show before moving on.

Lexi? I'm not sure what the writers' purpose was in bringing her in. Like others, I prefer stories within Eureka, and there are so many. We've seen quite a few intriguing town denizens now - Alan Ruck's character, the veterinarian from the "everyone's dumb" story (I liked her), the burned-out child genius now serving as a mentor. I'd like to see more interaction between Jack and the townspeople rather than bringing in yet another outsider. The show is called Eureka, not Carter Brings His Family, One by One-and-a-Half, to a Quirky Town Called Eureka (which might be a bit long for a title, but still ... ) Also agree that Jo is being underused so far this season. She needs real, meaty stories, not just the occasional joke (gun girl likes weddings, etc).

I don't hate Lexi, just don't feel like we have a need for her.

And Vincent in the pharaoh garb? Looked just like the villain from the old Adam West Batman series! Can't remember who it was (give me a break, I was a kid), but I remember him looking just like that!

ETA: Another reason I wish Lexi wasn't there is because she'd taking away from the Zoe/Jo sister-ish relationship, which I loved.

Edited by ms imaginary, Aug 27, 2008 @ 9:12 AM.

[Loandbehold]

Also agree that Jo is being underused so far this season. She needs real, meaty stories, not just the occasional joke (gun girl likes weddings, etc).

Count me in as well. Let's see Jo do something. Please.

And Vincent in the pharaoh garb? Looked just like the villain from the old Adam West Batman series! Can't remember who it was (give me a break, I was a kid), but I remember him looking just like that!

That would be Victor Buono. I also thought Vincent looked a lot like him in that costume. As a side note, Victor Buono was also a willain in The Wild Wild West. (I mention only because I loved that show.)

[justjoan123]

I thought Kennedy was next to Nixon. So the first president is someone before Kennedy. T. Roosevelt maybe?

My guess would be Harry Truman -- post-Manhattan Project era.

As for Eureka-access for Lexi, I believe it is possible to be in the town of Eureka without being in the secret part of Eureka. That's how Carter and Zoe first blundered into town, and it was only when Alison took Carter across the camo-barrier bridge that he saw the real stuff. It is not clear whether the house they live in is located on public or secret land, but the fact that it looks like an abandoned fallout shelter leads me to believe the former. Certainly the ex-wife got exposed to much that was secret fall-out, but whether she was officially cleared to know is not so clear.

Finally, I would just like to weigh in on the side of Lexi-hate. I'm pretty sick and tired of people who think Carter is not terribly bright. The ex- seems to have wised up a bit, but his sister drops back into his life with all her old baggage intact and starts it all up again? How long do we have to wade through her not-funny crap until she discovers he is as smart (or smarter) in his way as the town full of geniuses he's paid to protect? The last person to underestimate Carter is dead, and Nathan actually learned to give him his due props in the end. Plus I find new-age stuff so just plain old, especially in a town where truly green invention is the norm, not to mention bizarre: what part of pushing alcohol on underage relatives is considered cool?

[bybrandy]

I'm pretty sure they want her to tell more of Carter's story but it seems to me like it could be done with a relationship for him with drycleaning lady or preferably vet lady.

And even if they were committed to doing it with his sister she could be less irritating.

But what I did enjoy about this episode was Fargo's handling of the Stark memorial, Alison greiving, a brief huminizing moment with Eva but without losing the potentially evil subplot.

I didn't hate Zane in this episode, so that was something. But I am a little worried that he'll be moved up to Nathan like importance and he's going to have to do a lot of growing up if that is the case.

And I loved Vincent's freezer being brought back in this episode. I knew that is where it was going as soon as they said that cold killed the bugs but it was nice.

I liked Holo Nathan but I only want to see Holo Nathan one other time in the series.

Things that bothered me about this episode? The continued complete and total lack of a Kevin mention. I don't need to see Kevin but a mention of how he was coping. He was really close to Stark and change is not easy for kids in genral and kids with Autism to a far greater extent.

[MariaArg]

I thought this episode was okay, but it really showed that Salli does not have the range to look grieving and sad. Hopefully she'll start to slowly move on.

I'm starting to think that Eva may not be necessarily eeeeeeeeeevil. She definitely has an agenda, but I was wondering if it could have something to do with her husband? Maybe he died in some incident that Eureka has covered up? She just seemed more human last night.

Lastly, for a second there I was worried we would have Lexi falling ill as well, seeing as how she had tried to talk to Fargo about his "Mummy" problem. Isn't it sad that in a whole day he didn't touch any other people?

[ciscokidinsf]

And Vincent in the pharaoh garb? Looked just like the villain from the old Adam West Batman series! Can't remember who it was (give me a break, I was a kid), but I remember him looking just like that!

That would be Victor Buono. I also thought Vincent looked a lot like him in that costume.

HA! Just my thought. the Villain's name was 'King Tut' I think. And yes, Vincent just looked like him in that. Holy Weird Flashbacks Batman!

OK episode, at least they had Alli 'saying' goodbye to Stark in some fashion which I thought it was fair. But kudos for the creepy post-death hologram. For a quick second I was hoping Eureka did a version of the fake Starbuck's death in BSG, but no dice. I miss Stark, I really do.

Also, as I said, poor Kevin must be looking waaay older (like Walt in 'Lost') b/c we haven't seen him since last season, not at the wedding, not even after Stark dies. Guess he's never coming out of his room again. Bad writers!

I really never like Ever Carradine (the poor man's Sarah Jessica Parker) She just sucks in almost everything. I used to watch her in FX's forgotten-but-awesome 'Lucky' and cringed every time she was there. Same for 'Commander in Chief'

[Loandbehold]

Also, as I said, poor Kevin must be looking waaay older (like Walt in 'Lost') b/c we haven't seen him since last season, not at the wedding, not even after Stark dies. Guess he's never coming out of his room again. Bad writers!

He was at the wedding. At least once or twice, we saw him seated. Why he didn't give Allie away? For that, I have no answer. I do agree that we should be seeing Kevin and how he's dealing with Stark's death.

[PeeJay1031]

In Allison's first scenes, I thought she looked like someone was squeezing her toe really hard to get that stiff "I'm holding it all in" look. Yeah, the range is just not there.

The main plot was ok. Still really don't care for Lexi. I resent that she is taking away screen time from established characters that I care about. That is to say, any other character. I was happy to see more of Henry.

I was hoping for a some kind of closure for Nathan but I didn't care for the hologram. It just felt trite to me and I thought Nathan deserved better.

[ms biscotti]

How did Stark's hologram 'know' to appear in the back seat of Alli's car so as to be seen in the mirror? All the other times he appeared more or less in front of her. I am not sure I expect an answer to this, it has just been nagging at the back of my mind.

I agree with the poster upthread that said Salli just doesn't do grief well.