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Lacey Schwimmer: Rebel With a Cause


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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 10:44 AM

She was a contestant on season 3 of So You Think You Can Dance. Brother is Benji, who won season 2 of So You Think You Can Dance. Specializes in West Coast Swing and Latin. We can now add "You...AGAIN?!" to the mix.

Here's hoping for a swift exit, but somehow I doubt that will happen.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 11:24 AM

Eh. I can certainly see why she and her tribe annoy people, I know she has "famewhorish" tendencies, and she really lucked out getting Lance as her partner in her very first season but with all of that in mind, I really don't give a damn. I absolutely loved the girl on SYTYCD, and I'm actually really excited to see her on the show. Hopefully she tones it all down and her choreography is on point (although good Lord her solos were pretty awful), but she's definitely going to be...entertaining.

Edited by EmbraceTheDark, Aug 25, 2008 @ 11:25 AM.

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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 11:25 AM

Great thread title!

I actually did enjoy Lacey's dances on SYTYCD, but I question her standard dancing skills and her maturity. She is going to have a lot of support going into this season plus being paired with Lance, I see final 3 already. Maybe the show brought Lacey in anticipating Julianne's departure from the show since this season is Julianne's last contract season.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 1:59 PM

I am very excited about seeing Lacey on this show. I loved her dancing on SYTYCD and I'm really looking forward to seeing her with Lance. Add in Misty and Maks and after last season's boring coronation of Kristi, this season looks like fun to me.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 3:07 PM

Her dancing on SYTYCD was always good. Anything not involving dancing had an acquired taste.

I don't doubt her skills in Latin. I have serious doubts about her experience with American standard.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 3:24 PM

I think Lacey's biggest adjustment is going to be not making herself the center of attention. Most of the young DWTS pros have been quite the opposite of Lacey in terms of maturity. Or at least in the way they have handled themselves on the show and in the ballroom. I'm not sure if Lacey is going to be able to deal with the fact that the attention is supposed to be on the celeb.

I'm also not looking forward to her mom subsequently calling out the other dancers and celebs via blog. Especially since Lacey has been given a very obvious contender in terms of fanbase and popularity.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 3:33 PM

I don't mind Lance Bass, but knowing that he's paired with Lacey just means I will be hexing them in my mind from the on-set. I cannot stand her. Hated her on SYTYCD, her solos were atrocious (not sure how that bodes for her choreography) and she is such a camera whore. It's going to be painful. On the upside, she might make me dislike Julianne less.

Oh, who am I kidding? There's plenty of hate to go around for both of them!
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 4:01 PM

Here comes the Team Schwimmer invasion to the DWTS audience!!! Get ready for the neon signs!
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 5:17 PM

By an ironic twist of fate, Lacey has become a Julianne wannabe by joining the show. This, after Laurie Schwimmer's opinion of Julianne's mambo choreography with Apolo last year:

my whole opinion on this "bad copy" of a "great routine" is this....desperate people do desperate things! now, this is no excuse...it just happens! julieann is just 18 years old....and im sure that she feels inadequate at times on the show, trying to compete with the other seasoned professionals, coming up with new moves and new ways to "wow" the audience....but....it is no excuse to copy and then not give credit, where credit is due! being a choreographer all my life, i have run into this kind of problem before...so let me tell you a little about how a new, great, original move is orchestrated! first you have to find a coach/choreographer and pay anywhere from $65-$175 an hour for private coaching....private lesson....private attention....the key word....PRIVATE! this is where you and your choreographer can take the time necessary to come up and create something spectacular and call it your own...your signature of your dance! you then go and practice, then you go and perform it or compete with it....and you hope that everyone will love it! there are times that the moves prove to be so difficult that all you do is hold your breath, and cross your fingers and hope that everything will fall in place! so when it comes down to it...this is what i say about "copy cats"....you can try and paint a van gogh painting....you can use the same colors of paint, you can use the same brush strokes, you can even try and copy his signature....but in the end, it will NEVER be a van gogh!! so julieann, my view in all of this is ......you can steal the moves, and you can practice them, and try and call them your own....but you will NEVER be benji!


Ageist, presumptuous, and accusatory...she definitely makes Corky Ballas look tame. If Lacey is anything like her mother, think ABC will get their much-wanted drama this season, after all.

Did Lacey have any opinions about this copycat issue at the time? Was it on a blog that she ended up deleting?
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 5:18 PM

I didn't watch SYTYCD when Lacey was on so I have a question for whoever did:

Is Lacey universally disliked or is it a love her or hate her kind of thing? Just from what I've heard/read of her, I despise her and am in disbelief that she was able to score such an obvious contender right from the get go when pros like dear, sweet Kym and Edyta get stuck with Warren Sapp and Jeff Ross. I would love for her and Lance to be the shocking!elimination of season 7, but I just don't see that happening. Ugh.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 5:29 PM

loveisthedrug, I do not think Lacey is universally hated. For me, during season 3 of SYTYCD, Lauren "I talk funny, how Asian of me" Gottlieb was the hated one during that season. Lacey can be polarizing. Her mugging brother and Laurie do not add to the love. Corky can be obnoxious, but you can separate Corky from the Trio. I never read Laurie's blog about Julianne's mambo. I just heard about it, but Laurie comes off very childish in that post. I found the Houghs very polished and mature on DWTS. I cannot say the same for Lacey. She suffers from foot in the mouth disease as well. Lacey's dancing is fine, but I wonder about her standard dancing. I find it awful she got such a contender on her first season, but if they are setting her up as the next Julianne, I guess it figures. More than that, I think it is unfair that she is on the show while they had better pros like Elena or Ashly to consider. People say Julianne may have an unfair advantage, but I think Lacey is coming in with a sizeable fan base.

Laurie went off on Julianne in that blog, but IIRC, it was Alex da Silva's choreography. Though I know Benji has worked with da Silva before. I know the Houghs are not everyone's cup of tea but I would gladly take Derek and Julianne (and even Corky) over Benji, Lacey and Laurie.

Edited by harvestbasket, Aug 25, 2008 @ 5:30 PM.

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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 5:38 PM

Thanks for the info, harvestbasket. Hopefully, the Schwimmer family will be able to keep the focus on the show and the celeb and not themselves. Though I'll bet my bottom dollar we'll see Benji and his ego in some of the rehearsal clips.

Edited by loveisthedrug, Aug 25, 2008 @ 5:38 PM.

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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 6:24 PM

I liked Lacey on SYTYCD (her performance of "Dancing" in the top 20 episode with Kameron was one of my favorites from that season), but her personality got on my nerves, and only got worse after the show ended. I sided with her on the whole Lacey vs. Lauren thing, only b/c I hate Lauren, but she lost me once and for all by completely unnecessarily talking about David Cook's brother to the media. I can't like her after that. And without a doubt Benji is going to be the Donny Osmont of the season. He had a reality recap thing during SYTYCD last season, and if I recall, was unnecessarily harsh to lots of the dancers. Plus, I am not looking forward to seeing Lacey's dad in the audience with that stupid electronic sign.

On a different note, I've asked this several times, but never learned the answer: Does she even have any standard experience? I recall in the smooth waltz with Pasha she had a bit of a problem with having Latin hands, which doesn't seem to be something someone would do if they knew standard. And I'm not optimistic about her choreographing abilities or her ability to turn the focus off of herself. But of course she got one of, if not the most well-known contestants of the season, and has a huge fanbase of her own, so I would be shocked if Lacey isn't in the finals.

And she just seems so immature in comparison to Julianne, even though they are around the same age, right? Give me Julianne and Derek over Lacey and Benji anyday.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 6:36 PM

I'm soo glad Lacey is doing it. Of all the past SYTYCD contestants, Im glad they chose her. She's one of the best females from that show and i was surpised she came in 4th.

I personally love her bubbly personality and yes she has a overbearing mother.. she can't control that.

DWTS one of the highest rated shows on ABC and TV.. i doubt TPTB would hire Lacey if she had absolutely NO standard training.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 7:00 PM

i doubt TPTB would hire Lacey if she had absolutely NO standard training. PBGamer89

It's not whether Lacey has had any standard training. It's whether her standard is strong enough to choreograph and teach a novice dancer well enough in the time they have available.

I found this interview from January 18, 2008 where Lacey says:

Shimmy: What do you intend to do once fully healed?

Lacey: I think my competing days are over... But im scheduled to teach all over the world, judge, make appearances, and perform. I also plan on getting into acting and choreography.

From her Wikipedia entry, Lacey has, understandably, a preponderance in Swing Dance Championships. It lists only one Latin award - 2006 - 1st Place: U.S. National Youth Latin Championships; Partner: Jared Murillo.

I take ballroom lessons and all the instructors can teach both latin and standard dances, even though they compete in only one division. But Lacey spends a significant amount of time performing outside of ballroom, so I'm not sure how strong she is in the standard discipline.

On the other hand, the show isn't a ballroom competition. I think her ability to choreograph (or not) will be the telling factor. Performance trumps technique as long as the technique isn't lacking, especially with the likes of Carrie Ann judging.
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 7:19 PM

Yuck, I join the legions who think she's just not talented or mature enough to be on this show. You know ABC is picking drama over talent for their dancers....it's a ratings thing, I know, but I'll be fast-forwarding through her routines....Yuck!!! She just ruined my day....and Lance!!! I liked him before all of this....
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Posted Aug 25, 2008 @ 7:41 PM

Good thing they brought on Ted McGinley this season because hiring Lacey most definitely means the show has Jumped the Shark.

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I'm adult enough to admit that some of her dancing was okay, but I think she's very poorly suited to this competition on a bunch of other levels:

1) She's a class A camera whore. She absolutely, positively seems to have NO idea how not to try to be the center of attention at every single second. I'm not sure she'll ever understand the concept that it's not all just about her.
2) She's extremely immature and unable to keep personal problems to herself. A lot of stars come on this show to do PR for upcoming projects or to try and revive a sagging career. A lot of the show is about showing the stars off to their best advantage (which is why I think Derek and Jonathan are great partners). If Lacey doesn't like her partner (or one of the other stars or one of the other pros) everyone in a 2000-mile radius will be sure to know abut it.
3) Shes skanky beyond belief. She has no idea how to be sexy and just goes for the raunch. Every. Time.
4) And speaking of... her choreography sucked. Her solos were among the worst of the season.
5) She blows at standard.

Why couldn't we have had Anya instead? PLEASE?
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 7:25 AM

Love her and for once i'll actually watch the show all the way through. I think she's bubbly and fun and she'll hopefully inject some of that into the show which at times can be deadly dull.

5) She blows at standard.


Definitely don't agree with this, in my opinion every one of her standard routines on SYTYCD were well done. I can't think of any routine that she didn't dance well and I hope that translates to this show. It's a shame that she ever mentioned David Cook's brother who seems to be some sort of Sacred Messiah whom can not be spoken off, it seems to have gotten her a lot of bad press. When it happened I never thought it was a big deal and I still don't.

Anyway i'm very glad to see her come aboard DWTS.
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 9:57 AM

Poor Lance.

Yuck.

Edited by EagerContrarian, Aug 26, 2008 @ 9:58 AM.

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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 10:07 AM

Poor Lance.

Yuck.


Oh, I disagree. Lacey may be immature off stage, but she obviously is talented and works extremely hard at her dancing. Although I do expect some annoying mugging from her, I think the two of them will go pretty far. Lance is a pretty high profile contestant (this show always seems to push the boy-banders, plus there's the publicity of him being gay) and I doubt they would stick him with a poor match.

I'm just surprised they would pick Lacey since she made her fame on a competing network, plus the side issue of her family's mambo-gate involvement. Then again, I have read some articles that said the show was looking for more drama this year. What better way than to plop Lacey Schwimmer on the show - a young, perky girl who might mix it up with Julianne?
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 11:00 AM

Put me in the Love Lacey column. She's an amazing performer, and I think Lance will need that. She's had two years to mature from her SYTYCD days (Cookgate aside), and her family may have learned a few lessons too. I thought she was great on the actual show, bubbly and fun. True, she had very few filters, but that comes with maturity too. We are used to Julianne, who seems to have become an adult at age 11. Even Derek showed his age a bit last year, but never Julianne.

And the show has used Mambo specialists as pros in the past, I don't have a problem with a Latin and Swing specialist as a pro. Maybe we'll get a fun swing routine! I also don't agree that she's been given a top contender. My daughter loved N'Sync when they were popular, and Lance was her favorite. When I mentioned to her that Lacey (who she loves) is dancing with Lance, her response was along the lines of "ewww". Or however you spell that.
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 11:08 AM

Put me in the "wait and see camp". I thought she was overrated on SYTYCD, but she didn't annoy me like Lauren did. Sara and Sabra were my picks for top two girls that season.

That said, depending on her ability to teach and her choreography, she and Lance might get far. Lacey is a good performer, and I think they'd actually get along quite well.
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 11:15 AM

We are used to Julianne, who seems to have become an adult at age 11. Even Derek showed his age a bit last year, but never Julianne.

Yeah, the Trio all showed their ages whether in pics posted by family members, things they said, etc. Granted, the Houghs both had to grow up quickly so they might explain the maturity. Lacey has a series of immature comments and her mom does not help improve her image for me. But her dancing is fine and I admit her mom bothers me more than anything.

I agree, definite wait and see and given her popularity, Lance and Lacey are sticking around this season.

Fabian was a mambo specialist but he also a teacher at Fred Astaire with experience teaching standard dances as well. I am curious about her choreography and I hope we do not see Benji. I actually would love to see Heidi, who I liked a lot more than Lacey.
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 12:27 PM

I am excited about her dancing and choreography. I never blame ballroom dancers for bad solos on SYTYCD and I remember the one that was particularly drubbed she stated that she completely forgot the dance at the moment of performance. Having seen veteran competition kids do the same thing, I know that kind of thing happens.

Teenage girls tend to be drama queens, especially performers, so I'm willing to give her a break for comments or actions that occurred two years ago. At our studio, you can almost always find examples of immaturity or fights that are a big deal one day and nothing at all the next day.
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 1:18 PM

I almost forgot reason number 6 that I can't stand Lacey: she seems like a total moron. Thankfully, we're unlikely to be subjected to her illiterate writings on-screen, but I'm guessing we'll be hear lots and lots about how she "falled" again.

HATE.
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 3:03 PM

I am curious about her choreography and I hope we do not see Benji. I actually would love to see Heidi, who I liked a lot more than Lacey.


I like Benji and find him more charismatic of a performer than Lacey. But Heidi would be perfect though - she is a fabulous teacher. I've taken lessons with her and she's just amazing.

Edited by jennyisdancing, Aug 26, 2008 @ 3:05 PM.

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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 3:59 PM

Heidi was my favorite on season 2. she is kinda bubbly, too but unlike her cousin Lacey, she is more like a role model person. she has great athleticism and flexibility. I don't know her in person but I can tell she is good at teaching. Ryan ended up liking her on first day when they did V. Waltz. I wish Heidi on DWTS instead of Lacey. is she still competing? I heard she got married.

Edited by Chiharu, Aug 26, 2008 @ 4:03 PM.

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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 4:04 PM

Lacey's personality fits what DWTS producers want (attract tweeners) but Heidi is an excellent teacher and really let her partner and students shine. Her personality is easier to take as well.
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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 4:14 PM

I donít care about Lacey, but DWTS really really really really jumped the shark hiring her or any SYTYCD contestant. It automatically raise the profile of SYTYCD. It tells people that you donít have to win SYTYCD...but you still good enough to be a pro on DWTS. I also think itís pretty insulting to our pros.

Edited by TruBrit, Aug 26, 2008 @ 5:11 PM.

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Posted Aug 26, 2008 @ 5:48 PM

I agree TruBrit. Of all the amazing dancers out there, why would they pick someone with so few dance titles, etc? Even if you compare her to Julianne - Julianne has much more prestigious titles than Lacey...I will be fast forwarding through her for the entire show.
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