The X-Files 3: Pick up that phone and make it happen
Posted Apr 10, 2012 @ 5:50 PM
Posted Apr 12, 2012 @ 3:55 PM
Don't really say I'd blame them either.
My only guess as to him even mentioning it, was that Fox offered that to him. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense (*scratches head*), since David and Gillian didn't do a bad job this time around and there are still fans interested in seeing them in the roles again (even if it's for one last go).
As for Fox giving up -- -_- I'm pretty much feeling indifferent towards them, considering a lot of the films that they've been putting out lately. They're in it for the money, period. And if the film or franchise can't make the money that they want, they either promote it very little or they let it die and then try to reboot.
@ beebs: Say that ain't so. ::shudders as well:: Won't be seeing a reboot myself if they do it.
Edited by AntiBeeSpray, Apr 12, 2012 @ 3:57 PM.
Posted Apr 13, 2012 @ 9:08 AM
I am extremely frustrated about the XF3 situation because from what I've gathered/inferred from the talk that's gone around, Fox isn't even averse to doing it necessarily, but CC hasn't given them anything. And they're not like, excited about it enough to actively try and develop it, so nothing's happened. It sounds to me like it's basically CC's fault it hasn't gotten made. And there doesn't appear to be any room for the thought of someone else besides CC being in charge. Frank sounds like he wants to do it and I suspect his "nagging" is not limited to Fox but is also to Chris. Who I think doesn't know where to start and doesn't feel like dealing with it and is probably in a vortex of avoidance and procrastination and rationalizing and finding it super important all of a sudden to rearrange his garage. (And I'm not unsympathetic, because I have been there.)
And what I fear is that the result of all this is going to be that they take it from him, because Fox (I assume) owns the property, and they will do a reboot without him. And they will do it cheap with unknowns, and it won't actually do that well but it will still make a modest profit for Fox, so they won't care. Because David and Gillian are getting too old to do it anyway so they will figure they may as well cut one more golden egg out of the goose before eating it.
I think Chris enjoys the cheap applause he gets when he implies in front of a crowd of fans that a movie is coming, but I don't think he has the constitution to buckle down and actually make that movie.
Or maybe I'm just irredeemably bitter. :P
(In case it doesn't go without saying, I have literally zero interest in seeing any X-Files thing that doesn't involve DD and GA. It is not, and never has been, about the scary stories for me. And if I want to see two actors working their butts off to replicate the Mulder/Scully chemistry, I can watch any one of about 75 procedurals on TV right now.)
Posted Apr 13, 2012 @ 2:58 PM
That's what I've kind of gotten as well. My best take is CC and them keep on saying it's up to Fox, and Fox seems to be ok with a new film.
So it looks like they haven't come up with much of anything, other than talk to Fox and try to work with them. All we've gotten so far guess wise is a reboot (which is a huge NO from most of us).
Yep. That's me as well. Writing isn't an easy task to do and I certainly don't envy either him or Frank in terms of that.
*Ugh* ::Goes and vomits in a corner:: They'd be crazy to do it. *scratches head* Wonder how many XF fans would go to see that movie (as in a reboot)? I have two words for them: cheap (pardon my french) bastards. Doing the same thing over and over again -_-... even when something works. It's not as if David and Gillian got paid a huge pay day last time (it was $250k a piece, iirc). Fox is just downright cheap period.
That's kind of how I feel about that as well. In a way, if you think about it (not to be mean or anything), that sounds like how he was over the course of the show. Writing stories, but yet enjoying the cheap applause.
Nah, you're not :P. What you've just said makes perfect sense. Hard truth and all. Sometimes it pays to say some stuff out of tough love. It's not that we don't love the XF, we do, it's just that we're human and we're frustrated.
(Same here with me. Ditto. Agreed. Let em' try -- but I doubt it'll be the same lightning in a bottle that those two have.)
Posted Apr 13, 2012 @ 9:57 PM
And I woud prefer someone else besides CC to helm a possible XF3 movie, he still treats M&S like he did on the tv show, which is so immature. New blood is needed on the creative/writing front, but making any kind of movie without DD and GA would be a disaster, IMO.
Posted Apr 14, 2012 @ 1:35 PM
Agreed. What did you find to be immature in terms of the way that he treated them? Was it anything to do with the having them apart for so long during the movie and then giving the audience a treat thing, or was it something else?
But playing a little devils advocate *rubs hands together* -- he did move them forward somewhat (I was surprised that he even let them French kiss -- for him that's a huge step...), their characterizations weren't half bad, I thought he did a good job there. It was only during certain parts (such as dialogue and the like (the whole having M & S completely covered during the bed scene (unless they didn't have a way to heat up their home, it was a little silly) and saying that they're in a 'chaste relationship with very little physicality' (his words on the commentary about their relationship, and on a side note -- it almost seems as if he was trying to please the Noromo's as well by going in this direction... which is understandable, but still -- they're in a sexual relationship whether people like it or not, and it's not like they have to show much of that...))). And I certainly don't buy the whole 'chaste' thing anymore... considering the way that David and Gillian played it. It was playful and human, and adult (given the circumstances). A kind of relationship that I tend to view as a fun and playful one ;), not an entirely chaste one.
Agreed. It just wouldn't be the same.
Heck I view Chris's idea of their relationship as vanilla yogurt (ok enough, but missing that little bit of spice). Just add a little cinnamon and it would be even better (as in a end of the world make out scene and some flirting through out the film).
Edited by AntiBeeSpray, Apr 15, 2012 @ 2:50 PM.
Posted Apr 14, 2012 @ 7:02 PM
CC's first mistake, IMO was to make it seem right off the bat that they were not together, playing coy with their relationship. I hated that. Why not show them together right off the bat, a romantic and/or steamy bedroom scene would have grabbed the audience right away, instead of this stupid 'are they or aren't they', 'do they or don't they' crap that we saw for the beginning of the movie.
And trying to make us believe that Scully would let Mulder walk out of her life because of the case he was working on was so dumb. Who among the fans truly believed that portion of the story? We know Scully was involved with the boy's life threatening illness, but she never would have given Mulder an ultimatum, his work or her. She never had before, so why now?
I just wanted CC to start showing those two as a deeply committed loving couple who undergo their first big crisis since the last time we saw them, and instead he gives us a tepid relationship with just one real loving moment at the very end of the movie. The story itself was also not as interesting or scary as it could have been. As I said before, XF3 was nothing more than a 'made for tv movie' which was definitely not good enough for the big screen.
Am I bitter? You bet I am. I blame the lack of an XF3 movie completely on CC's handling of XF2.
Posted Apr 15, 2012 @ 3:03 PM
On a side note, didn't hate the bed scene one bit though :). Loved it, in spite of its flaws.
Agreed in part. I kind of viewed it as the flip side to what he (Mulder) told her to do in FTF. He told her to leave the FBI and become a doctor. And in this film she was just that, a doctor. Mulder wanted her to come back to the FBI and she didn't want to. That the FBI wasn't part of her life anymore, he was, and that she was worried that she'd lose him to that life again. She's human, and she was tired. And in FTF, he was feeling the same way. It was good to see some continuity from Chris. Not perfect, but there was some effort there.
Definitely. It would have been nice to see that. Tepid? I didn't see it that way. How did you view their relationship that way? I thought that the bed scene was a perfectly loving moment between two people, along with most of the other relationship moments. All of them were good, and they showed the pain and the anguish that those two had been through, along with just how much they truly love and care for one another.
Maybe... but still, even if there would have been aliens, people still wouldn't have been happy. You can't win for losing when it comes down to plot.
Edited by AntiBeeSpray, Apr 15, 2012 @ 3:10 PM.
Posted Apr 15, 2012 @ 7:11 PM
We waited years for XF2, I know I had high expectations for this movie, even when I found out that it was basically a MOTW type of movie. The lack of aliens did not matter to me, I just wanted a good movie from CC.
I expected more scenes between M&S, more love and passion between them, not just in bed but during some of the scenes of them talking or even arguing. Their scenes are almost no different then what we saw during the run of the show. We have moved on from the tv show, CC needs to move on from an almost 'best friends with benefits' relationship to one that encompasses all that they went thru, and for goodness sakes, these are two gorgeous actors, why not show them making out passionately or have a sex scene in bed sans clothes?
I went and saw it twice, I will watch DD & GA as M&S no matter what, but as a loyal fan who has been with these two characters since Day 1, I expected and wanted more. I did not get it.
I know others have different opinions, but I love these characters, I wanted more for them and for the franchise.
Okay, I'm done with my ranting, LOL
Posted Apr 17, 2012 @ 12:06 PM
I see. Well I still thought it was ok for the most part, the only really silly part was the whole 'Mulder was thinking about cheating on Scully' O_o. Not kidding either, it was part of the novelization. Made no real sense and it came out of nowhere.
Well we did get some no clothes, we got to see Mulder's shoulder blades =p. But all kidding aside, I do agree about Chris needing to move on a little bit there in terms of the relationship. They are two adults, not two teenagers and they're involved in a mature relationship. So where's the harm in showing some more in terms of it? Heck there was a really nice scene from Law and Order: SVU -- where Olivia was going out with a guy and they made out and then it cut to a scene with the two of them in bed with one another. You basically know that they did it, but you didn't see too much. Just her in her camisole and him shirtless. I just don't get why Chris can't show something like that for M & S... so in that way it's kind of immature. Same goes with the kiss scene. I loved it, but we hardly got to see it from Scully's pov. It was disappointing :(.
That's kind of where I stand too. Love the movie for what it's worth, but expected a little more.
Me too, lol.
Edited by AntiBeeSpray, Apr 20, 2012 @ 2:26 PM.
Posted Aug 14, 2012 @ 4:35 PM
AND I WILL NEVER WATCH A REBOOT WITH DIFFERENT ACTORS. Sacrilege.
Posted Aug 24, 2012 @ 1:02 PM
Posted Aug 28, 2012 @ 8:35 AM
I really really don't think it will be a reboot. I don't think Chris will settle for that. I'd rather not have an XF3 at all if FOX will only green light it as a reboot.
Posted Aug 28, 2012 @ 12:30 PM
Because waiting on Fox ... to call up and say, "Hey, Chris, even though both XF films under performed and the last one in a big way, we would like to toss some money at you to make a third one, despite the fact you've not come up with a script and thus we have no idea if we're greenlighting something the audience is likely to want to see" ... doesn't seem an effective strategy. It certainly hasn't panned out so far, and the window to get it done for the supposed colonization date came and went, so I think Fox is going to need a little push. Like a script that shows Chris understands where he went wrong before and is ready to take the franchise out on the note it deserves. (And then, of course, we'd have to hope that motivates the studio to give the film the budget, promotional campaign and release date it deserves.)
Edited by Bastet Esq, Aug 28, 2012 @ 12:35 PM.