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Posted Feb 25, 2012 @ 10:45 PM

The show usually returns "June-ish." Haven't heard a date yet.
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Posted Feb 25, 2012 @ 11:13 PM

Well, season 1 was set on the West Coast. Season 1, IMO, seemed to have more diverse environments I thought. It's probably the benefit of having the show shot where it's set. I don't know if the nature of the cons will change, but maybe since the show will be set the same place it's shot we'll have a wider range of locals?
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Posted Feb 25, 2012 @ 11:21 PM

Just because they have a home base doesn't mean all the "jobs" take place there.

Bonanno was on Grimm again last night. According to Grimm, there seem to be a LOT of creatures passing as human in the Portland area. LOL.
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Posted Feb 26, 2012 @ 7:49 AM

I meant that most of (all) the "jobs" took place on the East Coast - roughly: New England, Mid Atlantic States. I don't think they ventured further west than PA/WV or into the Deep South. I may be wrong, I didn't watch much from Season 2. It's my impression that their home base influences where the people they help come from and it *could* (just thinking here) influence the type of stories told/the type of jobs they take on.
Pacific specialists and locals, your opinion? Are there stories that fit the local history and economy better for the Pacific Northwest than for the East Coast?
(I can only think of the example we've already seen: the story of the Chinese miners and missionary cipher wouldn't have worked that well in New England; I'm also thinking the association between the Irish mob and Boston, I don't think you could replicate that for Portland, so it'd alter the mix a bit.)

I wonder what explanation they'll pick for choosing Portland: cool donuts?

I'm thinking: Season 5 and 6 in Portland, season 7 and 8 in New Orleans, etc..

Oh, do we know why they were based in Boston? Nate decided?

talea: thank you. So, basically three to four months. argh. But better than if it were later, of course.

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Posted Feb 26, 2012 @ 12:35 PM

Oh, do we know why they were based in Boston?


Nate was living in Boston. Sophie was also living in Boston; aside for the Sound of Music gig, she also had a boyfriend. Couldn't tell you who followed whom there, though.
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Posted Feb 26, 2012 @ 4:46 PM

I meant that most of (all) the "jobs" took place on the East Coast - roughly: New England, Mid Atlantic States. I don't think they ventured further west than PA/WV or into the Deep South. I may be wrong, I didn't watch much from Season 2. It's my impression that their home base influences where the people they help come from and it *could* (just thinking here) influence the type of stories told/the type of jobs they take on.


But most of season one was on the West Coast, and focused on West Coast Senators, small towns, the West Coast Italian mob, big corporations. It didn't make much of a difference, because with the current corporate culture, there are bits of big business everywhere.

The majority of the jobs were on the East Coast, because most of the seasons were set there.

Personally, I just want to see them be less careful. Actually show Portland, not worrying about trying to make it look like Boston (and I don't know if they even succeeded).
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Posted Feb 26, 2012 @ 5:10 PM

A little piece of trivia:

Joseph Gaston's 1911 book Portland, Oregon, Its History and Builders, describes how that city got its name. The decision was made in 1845 at a family dinner party in Oregon City, attended by Asa Lovejoy and Francis Pettygrove.
Mr. Pettygrove, hailing from Maine, wished to name the town for his favorite old home town of Portland, while General Lovejoy, coming from Massachusetts, desired to honor Boston with the name. And not being able to settle the matter with any good reason, it was proposed to decide the difference by tossing a copper; and so, on the production of an old-fashioned copper cent . . . the cent was tossed up three times and came down "tails up" twice for Portland, and once "heads up" for dear old Boston. And that is the day Portland got its appropriate name. [p. 200]

This info comes from http://allthingsmain...t-its-name.html

Now few of Portland, OR's buildings date back much further than the mid-late 1800s -- and of course, Boston's date back much earlier.

My brother used to live in Boston (before he and his family moved to Portland OR, followed a year later by me) so I visited many times. I never saw anything hugely jarring in the Leverage version -- but then again I'm not a native. They often showed real-live Boston shots as scene-setters.

However, because most everybody who settled in Portland back then came from somewhere else, there are a variety of building styles that do allow movie/TV shows to reasonably pass for other locales.

In my view.

Also, Portland people do protect the history they have, so particularly in downtown Portland, not much has been demolished.

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Posted Feb 27, 2012 @ 7:01 PM

natyanayaki: good pretext to rewatch Season 1 then, because I don't remember they were on the West Coast then.
So: S1 California, S2, S3, S4: Boston, S5: Portland.

If the team's based in Portland next season, we'll get to see real locales then, instead of places that look like Boston. Although I'll miss the Boston pictures for the entry sequences, they looked really good and made me miss it.

talea: cool piece of trivia. But why not name it after something else than another American city? Couldn't they see it'd get confusing quickly?

Just watched 3.12, King George Job, which someone had mentioned upthread [with regard to] Sophie, and I really liked it. Sophie was willing to sacrificed almost all her early gains for the con? And I really thought she really was an aristocrat named Charlotte; I can't believe that story was built over 7 years as an alternate identity, because a grifter even in a long con wouldn't spend 7 years pretending to be somone else. There had to be something else in that identity. A little bit more backstory would definitively interest me now - how would an aristocrat turn to crime? For excitement? Or does another episode in season 3 establish that she spent 7 years with the Duchess as her identity for a reason (a man? her husband? She did look genuinely stricken but then again she's a grifter) then got rid of it?

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 7:49 AM

talea: cool piece of trivia. But why not name it after something else than another American city? Couldn't they see it'd get confusing quickly?


It was actually pretty common to name a new town after a town in whatever place you came from. Moving from the East Coast to the West Coast in 1845 would be like you or me moving to the moon (more or less). Life everywhere was pretty local. Information took weeks - if not months - to travel that far. The first transcontinental telegraphs and railroads didn't happen until the 1860's, and I don't know when they got up to Oregon. And I doubt those founding fathers ever thought their Portland would be as large as the one they left behind - let alone larger - or that anyone outside their area would much care. For the masses, traveling outside your own county - let alone STATE - is a pretty modern idea (and those who did, it was a one-time, one way migration). I doubt anyone confused them.

It seems like a lovely city - a retired friend & coworker of mine visited the city a couple years ago on a whim (not knowing anyone there) - and ended up moving there. It seemed strange, but now that I know about the donuts...starting to make sense.

I love listen to John Rogers talk about the city on the commentary. He's always joking about how much the city does for them/let's them do that they could never practically get done in LA. Shutting down roads/buildings, using the fire department, the local talent, etc. He's pretty thrilled with the place, too.
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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 4:39 PM

It's cool Rogers is so thrilled with Portland. I feel that his decision to 'move' the team to Portland (in the show) is him tipping his hat to the city and the area.
It'll be lovely to see Portland "for real".
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Posted Feb 29, 2012 @ 12:14 AM

I hope they'll be able to make use of some distinctly Portland locations now. (It would be a nice way to thank the city for their support.) In particular, they have to go to (or at least mention) Powell's Bookstore, which is an awesome place. I also love the Japanese Tea Garden. It would be really cool if they did something that involved the Rose Test Garden, since Portland is the Rose City.

Disclaimer: I have never been a resident of Portland, but I've made a couple of visits.
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Posted Feb 29, 2012 @ 12:28 AM

I live in Portland, and since season two I've gotten kicks out of spotting places I know. But I think it'll be even more fun to see them getting mentioned for real.
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Posted Mar 5, 2012 @ 9:34 PM

Filming started today! :-)
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Posted Mar 6, 2012 @ 4:53 AM

It will be interesting to see how Leverage shows Portland as opposed to the artsy version they show in Grimm (this show leads me to believe that there are fairy tale like locations all over Portland).
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Posted Mar 7, 2012 @ 2:55 PM

I just heard of a show called Breaking In on NBC. It's about some kind of security company that is basically a crew of thieves. It sounds like a comedic version of Leverage. A really bad comedic version of Leverage. These kinds of discoveries make me so glad that Leverage has a great team of writers.
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Posted Mar 7, 2012 @ 3:11 PM

Aww, I like Breaking In. It's kind of like cotton candy to Leverages Godiva.

I've really noticed Portland from Grimm so I'm really looking forward to catching some shots of the same place but different. You know, real view for this show while it's more dark and sinister for Grimm. Have to say though, Grimm does the scenery proud. I'm dying to go visit now.

I'm just curious what other changes are in store. Net was ready for some changes so I'm looking forward to this season more than most, if that's possible.
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Posted Mar 9, 2012 @ 11:54 AM

I'd heard of Breaking In, but I haven't seen anything of it. Kind of wanted to give it a try, but I really don't have time in my schedule for another show.

Grimm and Leverage have filmed at at least one location in common. My favorite: This building from "The Experimental Job" (in the background) is the same building as this one from the pilot episode of Grimm. Fun fact: the building is called "Eliot Hall". The more you know!

(Yeah, I'm probably the only one who cares about this, aren't I?)

Anyway, I'm also wondering about the other changes. New office, obviously. I wonder if Nate's still going to be living in/above their offices. Maybe some new recurring characters. Peggy and Jack have gotten their own little happy ending, but maybe they'll meet some new people like them. Oh! Maybe Hardison's Nana lives in Portland. I really want to meet her.

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Posted Mar 9, 2012 @ 6:18 PM

I follow Gina Bellman on Twitter and she had a picture of the Spruce Goose, Howard Hugh's (apparently) legendary giant airplane which they're trying plan/con someone into buying? She said she was in the cockpit and was all waaaaaaaooooooooooooowwwwwwww.

Yes, new office.
An all-in-one (office/living space/drinking hole) again or something new? How do you call an Irish pub in Portland, an Irish coffee shop? :p And will Sophie be living with Nate or will they keep separate apartments? Maybe Hardison's Nana lives nearby. In Portland would be too coincidental :)
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Posted Mar 10, 2012 @ 6:23 PM

After catching a portion of Sterling's first episode of Leverage (the horse one), I miss Sophie's hair from season one.

Edited by gotta love it, Mar 12, 2012 @ 12:37 PM.

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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 5:52 PM

Summer season announced for July 15th. Official announcement here.
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Posted Mar 20, 2012 @ 6:32 AM

The Evil Hand episode of Angel was on this morning. I have to admit, I liked Christian's singing in that better than in the Studio Job (and I bought that song from iTunes). He seemed to inhabit it more, if that makes any sense. Then again, Lindsey was singing a song that meant something to him; Eliot was singing a song he supposedly just learned.

This time I got a good chuckle out of Lindsey telling Angel he didn't bring his laptop, so he couldn't hack into the security system of the place they were going to break into (before Angel threw an axe through the door).

Still a long way to July. Any word on when Season 4 comes out on DVD? Oh, I have all the episodes from iTunes (they had a special at the beginning of the season), but I need my commentary fix.

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Posted Mar 20, 2012 @ 9:14 AM

The Evil Hand episode of Angel was on this morning.

And I missed it? Damn! CK was one of the things that drew me in to Leverage. I remembered him from Angel, most notably in this episode, so I thought I'd look up his current show. I still reference the "evil hand" all the time!

Edited by gotta love it, Mar 21, 2012 @ 3:57 PM.

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Posted Mar 22, 2012 @ 8:04 PM

So with season 4 well and dead I would like to post my season 5 wishlist.

Most of it is the same. We meet Nana and she is either Nichelle Nichols, a small asian woman, or the compromise of George Takei in drag.

I would like a job about Intellectual Property maybe relating to comic books and work for hire vs creator owned. Have the main thrust of it taking place at a sci-fi, comic, geek con. Make it a Hardison focused episode and call Wil Wheaton to see if he can be in Portland at the time. Call it "The Con Job."

And my new one. I would like their off spec episode, like Rashamon and Van Gogh, to be a kind of "What If?" type of episode. The whole reason this team is together is because one day I think at least 6 years ago in shows time line Nate Ford was destroyed by the death of his son because IYS denied experimental treatment for it. I would like them to explore what would happen if they had said yes. I'm not even sure if they had said yes that Sam would have survived, but I think Nate would have known he had done everything to give his son a chance, everything. That may have pushed him back from utterly destroyed to simply a tragedy but again the idea of seeing Nate with an actual teenage son could be fun too. Alt!Nate would still be the honest man insurance investigator partnered with Jim Sterling, and in pursuit of a case he runs a fowl of the worlds greatest thief who cares about money and nothing else, a hacker who hasn't had a reason to grow up, a retrieval specialist who sees no hope, and one of the worlds greatest grifters who is making her own run at becoming an honest citizen. I would like to see where these characters would be 5 years down the line if they hadn't gotten wrapped up in Nate's big back of issues, but just for one night.
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Posted Apr 12, 2012 @ 3:58 PM

Okay, so this is only tangentially on-topic, but I think all you fellow Grifters will appreciate this video.

Fully on-topic, I can't believe we have to wait another three months for new Leverage! One the plus side, the season three DVDs finally got cheap enough to be in the budget, so I guess I'll be re-watching those in the interim.
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Posted Apr 12, 2012 @ 11:25 PM

Has anyone heard anything about the season 4 DVDs? I usually get them for my birthday in May, but Amazon doesn't even have them available for pre-order yet.
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Posted Apr 13, 2012 @ 12:11 AM

caseylane said:

I've really noticed Portland from Grimm


A couple of weeks back, my husband saw a cop and was "Isn't that Bonnano?!" It WAS! Now I will be hoping to see the shows share!

I love Grimm as well, so I need to make a pilgrimage to Portland. *sigh* It's just so pretty out there. I will also jump on the "Just 'move' to Portland already" train.

Neat trivia about the city's name,so thank you talea!

Edited by Actionmage, Apr 13, 2012 @ 12:12 AM.

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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 11:28 AM

For those who like to vote in online polls, Willamette Week (an alternative weekly serving Portland and the Willamette valley) has been running a Mayoral Madness "tournament" and our own Tim Hutton has made the top two. If you want to vote for Tim as mayor you'll find the poll here.
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Posted May 2, 2012 @ 9:11 PM

Dean Devlin just tweeted an article about the DVD release. Date set for July 17th.

www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Leverage-Season-4/16889

I quite like the artwork.
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Posted May 2, 2012 @ 10:41 PM

I wish that they'd taken new pictures of the characters. Hardison/Aldis looks SO young, and Nate/Tim looks way too put together.
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Posted May 2, 2012 @ 11:40 PM

Yea I wished they took new pictures too. I dig the whole chess set up, just wish they had more recent photos.
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