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TWoP Howard

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Posted Mar 18, 2014 @ 2:49 PM

Please don't discuss NeNe's appearance on Dancing with the Stars here. It didn't happen on this show, so it's off-topic here. Dancing with the Stars has its own forum, so you can discuss her there. The DWTS forums are here, and NeNe has her own thread here. Thanks!


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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 5:01 PM

One question that's been in the back of my mind is why some of the Atlanta HWs have southern accents. I think NeNe is from Georgia, but weren't the others raised in the north? I hear a southern accent when Kim speaks and sometimes when Sheree speaks. I don't like it when they all start shrieking and flailing around, but I do love to hear NeNe's accent.
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 5:02 PM

They were also separated for a lengthy time before the divorce proceedings, so she had long enough to get a clue and prepare herself for independence instead of playing the diva.


Agreed. Of course, she could have also prepared herself for independence BEFORE she met Bob or got involved seriously with any man. Even so, marriage and children do not have to be obstacles to growth and independence. It's not like she was under house arrest or held captive or something. She chose to be dependent on him.

Edited by mrsolive, Aug 4, 2009 @ 5:04 PM.

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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 5:09 PM

Sheree is a delusional narcissist (with those crazy tranny-in-heat eyes in her intro, loves it!) but I think her scenes with her kids seem pretty genuine. Maybe she's willing to assassinate her own character to be an Omarosa-type villian and it's all an act, because she seems pretty good with her kids. The boy ("he looks like OJ" - Kim) is pretty cute too.
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 5:41 PM

I wonder if the producers of this franchise are men, or mostly men. Don't you think, in toto, the RH franchise tends to make women look bad? Almost of all these women from all of the franchises are in turns materialistic, greedy, self-centered, stupid, hysterical, catty, pompous, unsympathetic, narcissistic, and ugly.


It's about a 50/50 male female split, with the majority of the segment producers being female. The fact is these women are being positively reinforced by Bravo (and by garnering fame) by behaving the way that they do. They're being rewarded for this, have seen how the other women on the other franchises have been rewarded (by attention, contract renewal, raises, Oprah appearances) and will continue to play into the materialistic, greedy, self-centered, stupid, hysterical, catty, pompous, unsympathetic, narcissistic, and ugly until we stop watching.

No woman, of any race, on any franchise, with any class, breeding or dignity would be on this show-after the second season anyway. That right there is the answer to the race question-Bravo goes for who shows up at the auditions that promiuses them the most train wreckage. Short, tall, fat, small, black, white, latino-doesn't matter-a willingness to play to the cameras and make an ass out of oneself is the factor.

Agreed. Of course, she could have also prepared herself for independence BEFORE she met Bob or got involved seriously with any man.


Agreed. Even Kim got off her ass for 2 years to go to nursing school in between marriages (and kids).
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 5:43 PM

Sheree is a delusional narcissist (with those crazy tranny-in-heat eyes in her intro, loves it!) but I think her scenes with her kids seem pretty genuine. Maybe she's willing to assassinate her own character to be an Omarosa-type villian and it's all an act, because she seems pretty good with her kids. The boy ("he looks like OJ" - Kim) is pretty cute too.


Myeh, I don't think so. Perhaps she's that way with her two kids by an NFL player, but she has a 24 year old daughter by a "commoner", who she had at 15, and will not let the girl call her "mom" in public. Pretty trashy, slightly evil, par for the course.

Speaking of which, I can't stand Kim any more than the average person, but the way these bitches have ganged up on her is pretty ridiculous. I know she's a shady bitch, but IMO, no more than the others - she's just not smart enough to remember all her lies, as to where I'd wager Sheree has a memorized speech regarding her entire life (shoplifting and teen pregnancy omitted, of course). And if they were just ganging up on her and bitching her out, that's fine, but the fact that these trash-talking bitches are doing it while practically humping their fellow assailants is disgusting. Take that idiot Lisa, for example, getting all over NeNe at the reunion in a desperate attempt to curry favor with her and distract from her shit-stirring tendencies. Now we've got Sheree getting all over NeNe... gah! They're just making themselves look like idiots with short memories, especially NeNe after the shit Sheree talked about her. That's fine for Sheree, but Kim was practically exiled to the Isle of Elba for it. I'm sure NeNe's linebacker ass is loving all the attention. Sure, that was mean, and sure, I like NeNe the best of the Atlanta howives, but I'd dig her a lot more if she'd cut ties with not JUST Kim after someone talks shit about her. I know they have to stick together for TV purposes, but there's no need to kiss the ass of a beyotch like Sheree in the process.

And oh, Lisa. That crackheaded, disproportionately flabby-armed Lisa... Already, here on episode one: "Kim said I was a drug addict and that I didn't take care of my kids. Come on! I'm a (say it with me) BUSINESSWOMAN!" - fuck me, is it that time already? Cos you know the inherit virtues of businesswomen! What the fuck? And well bitch, no you don't take care of your kids if you don't have custody of them! That bitch is a snake in the grass, and she's really bad at it to boot. Go hump Milli or Vanilli for awhile and see what handouts they have to give you. Maybe you can get pregnant by one of 'em, since that's what you do best - latch onto sixth-rate "celebrities".
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 7:48 PM

Kim's always seemed Dallas, TX (not Austin) to me.
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 9:07 PM

carmelized:

I understand your point, but these women are calling each other ghetto. Kandi says something like "NeNe is the ghetto-est one of us all" in a preview. That's definitely embodying a stereotype, and a bit troubling for me. I don't expect every African American to behave like a Cosby kid. I grew up in the so-called ghetto, and I could still very easily find a bunch of women in my childhood neighborhood who would carry themselves with 10 times the style and class as these women, even though they don't have money.


Only Kandi and NeNe had the "ghetto" conversation and from the previews it seems as though NeNe may have been the one to initiate it with Kandi's comments being in response. The words "ghetto" and "stereotype" were thrown around a lot in the first season, so Kandi and NeNe's conversation was not the catalyst for those types of comments. Style and class are relative. I think we have to remember that this is a 'reality' show, so we are catching the moments of people's lives that they may not be proud of and we may not have found out about otherwise. For the most part, whenever we see the ladies in public appearances and interviews, they are always cordial, well-spoken and sophisticated, in my opinion. A show with a bunch of women who were always behaving well/perfect and going about their lives with no drama (regardless of race) is not only unrealistic, but would not be interesting to watch. People who judge a whole race by one television show are not people who think rationally anyway. We should just accept these women for who they are (or at least who they portray) and discuss the events that happen on the show. Everything doesn't have to be about race and stereotypes. The show is not about those things, so it's really irrelevant. Every black woman is not going to be Oprah, Michelle Obama or Claire Huxtable.
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 10:25 PM

The words "ghetto" and "stereotype" were thrown around a lot in the first season, so Kandi and NeNe's conversation was not the catalyst for those types of comments.


I realize that Kandi and NeNe's conversation wasn't the catalyst, especially since we've only seen the previews. I recall Sheree running NeNe down in a confessional last season, saying how low-class she was, or something to that effect. But I also realize that some people are going to call them ghetto, no matter what they do. I just don't think they have to play that aspect up for the camera, the way I suspect that they do. Maybe it's partially my perception, I don't know.

We should just accept these women for who they are (or at least who they portray) and discuss the events that happen on the show. Everything doesn't have to be about race and stereotypes.


No, everything isn't about race and stereotypes, but for me those are issues that pertain to this show, and I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed, just like so many other details and aspects of their lives are discussed. I don't think race is the only thing that should be discussed, and it isn't. However, I've probably said more than enough on this subject, and I respect the fact that other people have different opinions than mine. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree, Chanteur79.

Edited by carmelized, Aug 4, 2009 @ 10:30 PM.

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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 10:54 PM

I swear Kandi's daughter looks so much like Tyler Perry to me. If I didn't know better...
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 11:33 PM

If he was a turd (in her opinion), then she should have been preparing a long, long, time ago to provide for her children. If her children were really her priority, that is.


She probably thought she would get her settlement and then use it to get an education or open a business. It wasn't wise, but Sheree doesn't seem the wise type. She is clearly very angry and bitter towards her ex-husband and really wanted to stick it to him. I have seen ex-wives like this and I always think it comes from the wife still having feelings for her husband. I think her "Look at me I am living so well" schtick last season was her trying to show Bob how good and happy she is without him. Don't get me wrong; I think Sheree is a stank bitch, but I do have a little sympathy for her.

nikitakitty- Word to your entire post. It was very astute and well articulated.

I like NeNe the best of the Atlanta howives, but I'd dig her a lot more if she'd cut ties with not JUST Kim after someone talks shit about her. I know they have to stick together for TV purposes, but there's no need to kiss the ass of a beyotch like Sheree in the process.


Nene may have forgiven Sheree because they were long term friends (7 years) who had a falling out, and she had only been friends with Kim for 3 years. Also, didn't Nene say she was considering making up with Kim in the episode?

I didn't see the meeting at the park as Nene kissing Sheree's butt, quite the opposite in fact. Sheree was totally the kisser and Nene's ass was definitely the kissee on the bench, and Nene was eating it up.
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Posted Aug 4, 2009 @ 11:43 PM

She probably thought she would get her settlement and then use it to get an education or open a business. It wasn't wise, but Sheree doesn't seem the wise type.

I'd think that if we saw any inclination that Sheree learned from the failure of her first business (the boutique she opened). She failed at that and her lawyer painted her as uneducated, thus needing the money from Bob. If she was so uneducated, she would have showed that she was taking steps to remedy her lack of knowledge, especially before the fashion show with no fashions.
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Posted Aug 5, 2009 @ 9:24 AM

Sheree's divorce proceedings really exposed her, most of it was her own doing. She and the Bravo producers are trying to somehow redeem her to the viewers.

Au contriare! I think the Bravo people are just giving Sheree the proverbial rope with which she'll hang herself -- remember last season how, after bitching and moaning about how her ex was holding her back, she invited him to her Fashion Plate ™ party and he acted nothing but 100% supportive of her lame endevour?

Kim -- the only phrase that comes to mind when she's on screen are the infamous words of Dan Akroyd, "Jane, you ignorant slut." She has got to be the laziest of any of the howives in the entire franchise. She wants to be a singer but can't be bothered with lessons. She wants to have her own wig business but can't even remain focused for one class. The only thing this woman is qualified to do in life is lay on her back.

I can only guess she has a poster on her ceiling with diagrams on how to spread her legs... (oooh, did _I_ type THAT?)
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Posted Aug 5, 2009 @ 12:30 PM

If there's no proof of something, it will remain a rumor.


Well, I guess I don't need proof to believe something, just like I don't have actual proof that Kim's Big Poppa is Lee Najjar, but I absolutely believe it.

Since Sheree is such a liar (or, truth-stretcher, to be kind) I would believe most, if not all of the crappy things for which she has been accused. YMMV.
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Posted Aug 5, 2009 @ 12:31 PM

Kim needs to chill before Pookie and e'um do more than yank her wig off!
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Posted Aug 5, 2009 @ 3:15 PM

Yes. He is creepy, between the death mask face, the threats to pull out his peenie weenie and the lap dance for Nene. Ew, ew, ew.

Yeah, Dwight bugs the crap out of me, especially with his cattiness. Sometimes I think with gay men people excuse their mean, bitchy comments and just think it's "cute" and sassy. But honestly if Dwight was a straight man and said some of the things he says, I think most of us would all call him a jerk.

Edited by Jamie38, Aug 5, 2009 @ 3:15 PM.

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Posted Aug 5, 2009 @ 3:21 PM

I don't think the NY wives are beacons of intellect but whatever their collective intelligence, it took a nosedive with the addition of Kelly "the grass is not always greener" Killoren Bensimon.


Don't forget how, when asked by LuAnn how she "let her hair down," Kelly took out her ponytail holder to literally demonstrate how she let her hair down.
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Posted Aug 5, 2009 @ 3:56 PM

Of course they're stupid. A smart woman would have nothing to do with a show like RH.
I do worry about Sheree though, if she gets any dumber she just might forget to breathe.
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Posted Aug 5, 2009 @ 5:46 PM

My problem with Dwight is he comes across so mean spirited and nasty as opposed to clever and snarky like our esteemed TWOPers.
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 12:23 AM

Yeah, Dwight bugs the crap out of me, especially with his cattiness. Sometimes I think with gay men people excuse their mean, bitchy comments and just think it's "cute" and sassy. But honestly if Dwight was a straight man and said some of the things he says, I think most of us would all call him a jerk.


Absolutely. I agree. Don't get me wrong, I love a good, over-the-top bitch but he's a bit much.

Yes, what is up with the constant offers/threats to show his penis? I was entertained by Dwight last season and thought he showed some level headed-ness (at least in comparison to the Hwives), but the lap dance promises more of the same. Don't need to hear more about his wang dang doodle. Flirting used to be less, uh, pornographic.

Plus those fur pants he wore at Lisa's party looked like the Jeff Goldblum character from Buckaroo Bansai decided to become a pimp. Evidently he was wearing them while out with his "fiancee." They might be fun to do the nasty on, but not as fashion. (Can't convert that Tim Gunn look of dismay into words).


Hilarious, Oya. I just looked up the infamous mink pants. Wow. Are there words? At least he wasn't rocking his Frisco pimp finger waves. But seriously, before Dwight, I hadn't seen a man wearing finger waves since Rappin' 4 Tay in, like, '95 and even then that shit wasn't fashionable.

My first introduction to Dwight was when he sauntered into the reunion swinging that damn hair weave all over the place so...you know what they say about first impressions.

This past episode, I thought the exchange between him and NeNe about his faux lashes and the fake plant was amusing. THEN he had to ruin it by straddling her--pants unbuttoned and unzipped. He is just itching to go in his "toolbox." Ugh. I don't even want to imagine.

Someone asked if Bryce is currently in school and the answer is no. NeNe said that he's working as a party/club promoter. I'm working on finding where I read that.
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 2:20 AM

Does anybody know if filming for the entire season is over ?

because it will be interesting to watch how Lisa smoozes away the fact that she has now rolled her last strike, swam her last lap and followed NeNe and Sherree down the yellow brick road and out the gate.

People who live in the Land of OZ have houses drop on them all the time. You donít see them marching into Emerald City demanding a handout, do you?

Ed dear...get a clue, LooseLips Lisa will "Not" give you another baby, and is at this moment scouring Free Credit Report dot com for her next 900 and above credit score love match...
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 7:46 AM

Again, I ask, what did Sheree lie about?



I guess her TV persona of prentending to be rich is a lie. Last Season She said she had moved beyond upper middle class lifestyle she grew up with.

Then again maybe she did, She just went back to it this season.
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 9:10 AM

1. Read the FAQ. If you don't read anything else, read the page about manners and boards-on-boards comments. Agree to disagree and remember that if you're tired of repeating the same point, odds are that everyone else is tired of it, too.

2. Stay on topic. As I said in the RHNY thread a while back

"About the show" means that your post should be about what happened on the program. We don't seem to do well with gray areas here, so now there aren't any. This is a site for discussing TV shows. It's not a gossip blog or an e-stalking competition, and if the thread once again becomes a general debate about real estate prices, proper nutrition, or upper-class resorts, I'll assume you've run out of things to say about the actual show.



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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:04 PM

First must say again how much I love Ed. And the baby is so damn cute! The head thumps he was giving Lisa looked like they hurt! What was the fart noise when Ed was giving Lisa a massage? I burst out laughing!

Sheree with the gun. After the first shot she jumps back and screams and whips out of the lane with the gun in her hand. That's how people get killed dumbass.

The intervention? I'm thinking both Sheree and Kim have been saying crap and neither one are owning up to it.

Liking Kandi so far. But she really needs a hair intervention. Hating that do.

Edited by CrissySnow, Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:05 PM.

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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:05 PM

Nene... she is uncultured, ghetto, low-class. Ick, ick, ick.
I must be missing something?

Nope. You're seeing what I'm seeing.

Speaking of which, I can't stand Kim any more than the average person, but the way these bitches have ganged up on her is pretty ridiculous

Word. Sheree and Lisa smell blood in the water and they have begun the feeding frenzy. I'm pretty sure that a lot of Kim's "gossip" is actually generated by one of them. I hate to say anything nice about Kim, but she's pretty open about talking smack. Maybe that isn't such a nice thing to say - but Kim is willing to say mean shit to your face. When Lisa said "You know she's only going to lie if we confront her" I heard "Kim's going to call me on my lies if we confront her, and I'm afraid one of you might believe her."

"I was never with Big Poppa for his money" says the low-rent version of Angelyne as her falsies struggle to escape their stripper/prostitute captor. Hubby swears he saw nips.

Dwight looks like the Catwoman - only uglier.

I'm glad Kandi's boo wants to take care of his kids, but FOUR baby-mamas scream irresponsible asshole to me no matter how involved he is in their lives. Learn how to use a condom or make a commitment, dude.
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:05 PM

I don't get why Sheree has it out for Kim so much now. In the first season, she was talking crap about Nene nonstop. Who is she to come around calling Kim a liar and a gossiper and whatever? I mean, Kim's faaaaaaaar from a saint, but Sheree needs to check herself.

Nene is a damn fool to want to befriend either of them.
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:07 PM

Note to Nene: With Kim and Sheree, you can't believe either one of them! I think they are both lying and just circling around one another in order not to get caught. Although, I was cracking up when Nene said, "I can't run in these heels" when trotting after Sheree.

And why do they have subtitles whenever Kandi speaks or sings? Is she that inaudible?
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:08 PM

With all the Ed Hardy on the show tonight, I thought RHoA was on Vh1 now

Speaking of bad fashion, what was up with the gray rubber pants Sheree was wearing at the shooting range? Ugggly.

I think the whole Lisa and Ed romantic dinner was so staged.

Kim and Nene seemed to get along okay. I think they will be friends again by the end of the season. It looks like Kim was gossiping about Sheree and not paying bills, but that is pretty true.

I think when the Kim v. Sheree stuff goes down next week, I will be on team Kim.

Kandi is just bo-ring.

ETA: Best part of the episode, No Creepy-unzipped-weenie-wiggling Dwight. Yeah!

Edited by Terjen, Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:11 PM.

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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:09 PM

And why do they have subtitles whenever Kandi speaks or sings? Is she that inaudible?


lol, I need those subtitles. I couldn't help but notice that when she sings, she clenches her teeth together in this really annoying way so all I hear is "Nyehnnhmmmhnnnehhh" to the music.
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

Anyone else get reallllllly uncomfortable watching Ed and Lisa's romantic night together? We almost very clearly saw Ed's naked ass at one point. Not that I really minded. Or that it's anything we haven't seen before.

Also I find myself changing the channel when Kandi comes on. They need to incorporate her with the other cast members! Right now it's all different combos of Sheree/Nene/Lisa/Kim..........and then Kandi.
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Posted Aug 6, 2009 @ 10:11 PM

God, I hate fucking Sheree. She is such a mean spirited bitch. She is just making sure to jump on Nene's bandwagon now since Nene is so popular with the viewers. They are all tiresome stupid and worthless.
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