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#6901

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:10 PM

From what I remember, all contestants are always chaperoned when together or going out somewhere. And they're prohibited from discussing the show unless the camera is on.

I liked Mimi and felt sorry for her. She wasn't mean to anyone and only spoke back to Shangela after she and her posse (Mimi's own team!) went in for the beat down in Untucked and she had to defend herself for what seemed like forever. And I agreed with her, if she was suggesting Ru was the sugar daddy for bringing her back. Unfortunately she was so overwired to be on that show she just lost it. And there's the editing. Mimi said on a cellcast doing a makeup tutorial that she had completed her outfit but it fell apart late in the game and that's why she broke down but they didn't show it. But anyone who goes on that show not having basic sewing skills is foolish, imo.

She's accomplished in real life, and has alot of fans. Her single is very popular (and produced much better than Manila's!) She's done a ton of work like off Broadway, tv, worked with Kathy Griffin, Monique, her group opened for Lil Kim and SaltnPepa. I heard her group was fantastic and Lil Kim sucked and didn't even remember her own lyrics. IMO, not bad for a 27 year old kid who essentially raised himself from, like 16 years old or something.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:16 PM

I don't know how common it is either, but I also have known more than one pear-shaped man, and not all of them were particularly sedentary. The two most extreme cases (in the sense of being very noticeable) were on the slender side, and one was kind of a jock.


My suspicions about Carmen are based on more than her hips, though. She often appears to have significant breast tissue, and her face is extremely "fishy," and I imagine her male "endowment" must be quite small, based on the tucks she pulls off. In her act, she's been known to work around with nothing but a tiny fig-leaf thing covering her crotch, and nothing at all covering her butt, and no hint of genitalia can be seen from the front or the back.

I checked out Logo's website, and they showed Sharon getting a lie-detector, and Ru asks if she would kai-kai with Phi2, and she said yes.


What does kai-kai mean? There was a lot of discussion about Sharon's comment that she and Princess kai-kaied, and a lot of people speculated that it meant they hooked up. Does that mean that kai-kai means sex?
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:24 PM

What does kai-kai mean? There was a lot of discussion about Sharon's comment that she and Princess kai-kaied, and a lot of people speculated that it meant they hooked up. Does that mean that kai-kai means sex?


Kai-kai is sex between two queens who stay in drag, or at least in their female personas.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:40 PM

Love this acoustic cover from Manila's "Hot Couture" by JolieAcoustic ~ http://youtu.be/hn56QQ2rP7A

Now, that sets the bar for all "fanilas" :)
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:47 PM

So wait, Sharon and Princess slept together? And Sharon talked about it on the show?

Maybe she and Alaska have an open relationship?
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:47 PM

Thanxs for the link for the acoustic version of Manila's song. As much as I love Manila I do not like the Couture song she put out. I don't really like Pandora's Cooter song either nor Raja's awful whatever-that-hot-mess he put out. Manila & Pandora can sing a bit but their songs just aren't that catchy--leave the songwriting to Ru, ok?

So wait, Sharon and Princess slept together? And Sharon talked about it on the show?

Maybe she and Alaska have an open relationship?

Kai-Kai (pronounced with the long I) means 2 drag queens having sex BUT what Sharon was talking about with Princess was Ki-Ki (pronouned key-key) which is just laughing, joking around, and being good buddies with someone.

Edited by dirtybubble, Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:50 PM.

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:54 PM

Blakespeare, Sharon and the Princess did not sleep together. In that Untucked episode, Sharon said she and the Princess would "ki ki" (pronounced key key) which means chat, gossip, talk and hang out. "Kai kai" (pronounced like "eye") means have sex in drag. Two similar words pronounced in two different ways, but it's easy to mix them up.

Or, to put it simply, what dirtybubble said!

Edited by GrantsHistory, Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:55 PM.

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 4:14 PM

Just when I start to think Sharon or Latrice is winning me over, Willam brings me right back to her corner. Her newest video is everything "The Vagina Song" was, times ten.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=sO-msplukrw
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#6909

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 4:20 PM

I enjoyed Mimi's take on sci-fi

I still have nightmares about her occuli dentata.

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 4:25 PM

Willam posted a hilarious gays-for-ChickfilA video and someone please check this out, is that our Willam and Pit Crew Jason in the hot tub at 3:29??? Oh man, queens have all the fun!

http://t.co/FV6H8UZ2
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 4:26 PM

Mimi was at her scariest in that episode. *shudder*

Willam's new music video - oh em gee thank you. I didn't think I could love him any more but I do. He's such a good singer and I love when he has that naughty glint in his eye he's hilarious. The lyrics are a scream, wonder who wrote that?

I was freeze-framing a preview and it has Fifi with a Fido. If she's still there at the singing challenge and Willam is not I'm-a be pissed!
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 4:43 PM

Will it be a double elimination?

(Which sounds like a very bad porn video.)


scrubmonkey, you're the Sharon Needles of twop ;-)
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 4:57 PM

scrubmonkey, you're the Sharon Needles of twop ;-)


High praise indeed! I love her (and him) in part because out of drag he is a ringer for my high school bestie. Even the same voice. Those were different times though so he didn't come out until much later.

Loved Sharon's human centipede video on youtube.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 5:31 PM

I'm not shocked Shanel's not doing so well in the voting. I thought she was a one-trick pony who was emotionally unavailable. And her Drag U appearances haven't changed that view very much. Obviously, she has fans, but I think there is a significant portion of the show's audience that wasn't crazy about her.


I disagree re: Drag U.

I think she's the most compassionate prof on that show and has probably attracted many more fans because of that.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 5:31 PM

I was freeze-framing a preview and it has Fifi with a Fido. If she's still there at the singing challenge and Willam is not I'm-a be pissed!


The singing challenge is tonight's episode so don't worry about that. All of them are singing in pairs and singing live which is going to be a hoot!

I thought Manila's "Hot Couture" was the catchiest solo release from any of the queens so far with probably the best video from any queen as well. MUCH better than Diamond Crowned Queen which was okay. Mimi's stuff with XELLE is listenable but they tend to borrow from songs that you can hear on the radio IMO and Mimi never really 'sings' in the tracks but rather has a small talking section in each song. It's like Mimi is only there so that they can say "We're a girl group... with a drag queen!" or something.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 5:33 PM

So wait, Sharon and Princess slept together? And Sharon talked about it on the show?


BlakeSpeare, in the clip on Logotv.com, Sharon was hooked to the lie detector, and Ru asked her if she'd would Kai-kai with Phi Phi, not Princess. Sharon said she would Kai-Kai with Phi2, and the person administering the test confirmed she was telling the truth.

And again, it shocked the hell out of me.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 5:36 PM

I liked Mimi and felt sorry for her. She wasn't mean to anyone and only spoke back to Shangela after she and her posse (Mimi's own team!) went in for the beat down in Untucked and she had to defend herself for what seemed like forever.

I think Mimi has a lot of talent that we didn't get to see on the show, but I can't believe that her real-life personality is pleasant. She's blamed lots of things on editing, but even in her media appearances off the show, she's had plenty of opportunities to discuss hoisting India onto her shoulders - and so far as I know she's never stopped portraying it like it's no big deal.

Her defense of it is always "I do it in my show all the time!" - as if doing it to someone unexpectedly, without their permission, is the same thing as a choreographed stunt in a stage show.

BlakeSpeare, in the clip on Logotv.com, Sharon was hooked to the lie detector, and Ru asked her if she'd would Kai-kai with Phi Phi, not Princess. Sharon said she would Kai-Kai with Phi2, and the person administering the test confirmed she was telling the truth.

Right, I was just thinking back to when Sharon said that she "kikied" with Princess. That meant nothing to me at the time, because I didn't know what "kiki" meant. But when I read the post about the "kai kai" lie detector question, which made it clear that "kai kai" referred to sex, I assumed that was what Sharon was talking about.

But then DirtyBubble and GrantsHistory explained that they're two different things. Man, those two terms being so similar must cause a lot of confusion.

Edited by BlakeSpeare, Mar 22, 2012 @ 11:25 AM.

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#6918

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 5:51 PM

Her defense of it is always "I do it in my show all the time!" - as if doing it to someone unexpectedly, without their permission, is the same thing as a choreographed stunt in a stage show.


It's also spontaneous in her drag show.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 6:13 PM

Willam gets interviewed by Advocate about the "Chow Down" video ~ http://tinyurl.com/83g83gs .... nothing but awesomeness on the answers, LUV!

Edited because tinyurl means less url mess

Edited by Enter4None, Mar 19, 2012 @ 6:23 PM.

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 6:39 PM

I didn't think it was possible, but Willam just surpassed Sharon for my favorite. How can you not absolutely adore a queen that not only take on prejudice head on, but stands by it by sitting directly at the counter of a place that supports discrimination, ordering up, and making a video about it? Plus I (heart) Willam for wearing the Chynna Phillips bob from that era. Takes me back.

noextrai, you're awesome! (Plus, I like the spicy chicken sandwich, too. I just order it with a shit-load of ranch sauce.)
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#6921

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 7:55 PM

Here's an out-of-nowhere question - is it common knowledge that Stacey Layne Matthews is openly trans?

She discussed it in this Feast of Fun podcast, where she, India Ferrah and Mimi Imfurst were all interviewed. Stacy makes it clear that she already identified as trans when she was filming season 3. After listening to the interview, it wasn't clear to me whether she was open about it during filming or not.

It also isn't clear whether she's transitioned - and if she has transitioned, it isn't clear when she transitioned. Right after she mentions that she's trans (which is around 10 minutes and 10 seconds into the podcast), India Ferrah says, "She's actually post-op, if no one knows out there." But right after that, when there's a lot of noise, it sounds like India says, "I'm kidding."

I'd bet just about anything that Stacy was at least taking female hormones before she appeared on the show. She looked like a woman both in and out of drag. And when she was on Drag Race, she talked about sleeping with straight men who thought she was a biological woman, which caused a lot of people to wonder how that was possible.

But on the other hand, I don't think the show would accept a post-op contestant. And I had the impression, after Stacy's talks about her sex life on Untucked, that there was something physical she was "hiding" from the men she


I heard this too, and honestly I wasn't surprised. I do, however, find it funny that Yara pretty much called her out about it in the first Untucked ... And in a TH, she vehemently denied it, saying it was terrible that people always thought she was a woman.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 8:06 PM

Random question: anyone know why Puerto Rico is so well-represented on the show? Do they have a really well-developed drag scene or something?
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:00 PM

I don't get it. Is throwing up breaking a rule? I'm genuinely confused.

I spoke too soon and will wait for Untucked.

Edited by JCScantling, Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:03 PM.

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#6924

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:01 PM

That was probably the best episode of all four seasons.
Except who went home.

Edited by eggplantasaurus, Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:02 PM.

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#6925

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:01 PM

What. The. Fuck. I am livid.
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#6926

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:04 PM

I'm coming out of two years of lurking on this thread to say, what the frock just happened?!? This is one sure fire way to get Untucked viewership up, isn't it?
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:04 PM

It's crazy! What did I just see?
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:06 PM

I was about to throw up myself thinking Ms. Needles might have to go home. And then they sent home Willam? Fuck that. She finally made her way to the top of my list of favorites this season and now my girl goes home? No.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:07 PM

I think Willam did something that will be explained in Untucked.

Looks like she breached contract somehow. I heard in a Sharon interview that some girls had contact with outsiders (cell phone/internet) when they weren't supposed to so maybe it's that?

Edited by The Void, Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:08 PM.

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:09 PM

Phi Phi was a hot mess in the lip sync. Any queen should be deducted greatly right away for doing it sans shoes, tired ass busted showgirl Phi Phi. Phi Phi also has the ability to make her body look as unflattering as possible.
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