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Posted May 24, 2012 @ 5:33 AM

What had me absolutely cracking up though was just how bad the main actor looked as a woman:) I certainly hope the real guy looked more convincing!


I agree, there was no way I would think he was a biological woman, then again I have seen some biological women who do look like men. I have to say though that Dwight looked pretty good for a sixtysomething.

I didn't notice any accent, but I watch TV with closed captioning, so I'm more into what's being said than someone's accent, I never notice accents anymore.

I think the Iraq truck driver got lost because he didn't get into the Humvee fast enough. Also he wasn't the one driving, he was in the passenger seat, the driver managed to get into the Humvee, but the contractor tripped which I guess cost precious seconds.

I never feel sorry for the people who smuggle drugs but I always wonder what really happens to the drugs they confiscate.

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Posted May 24, 2012 @ 10:04 AM

In the end, I kept wondering what happened to the kittens.



Me too! When he got into the cab, I turned to my husband and said "but he left his kittens!". I felt bad for them!

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Posted May 24, 2012 @ 10:40 AM

but I always wonder what really happens to the drugs they confiscate.


Depends on the country, but most likely it goes to some official who either sells it or uses it. And that man was, indeed, one ugly girl. Wonder why they didn't have his wife on too?

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Posted May 25, 2012 @ 8:48 AM

Wonder why they didn't have his wife on too?


I think that the show only features the people that were actually "locked up." They did show a picture of Dwight, Barbara and their child at the end. She is a gorgeous woman! Kinda made me wonder what she saw in him at the time, but who am I to judge?

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Posted May 28, 2012 @ 8:59 PM

Sometimes they show the wives, e.g., they showed the wife and child of the British guy who married the Thai woman who popped up on the internet.

I agree that Dwight's speech pattern was a little odd. I just assumed that he was either trying to be cool or melodramatic. Whatever the reason, it sounded strange.

His girlfriend was gorgeous, but he looked pretty hot in that old picture,too. And he has aged pretty well.

Even though it said he and his girlfriend escaped to Arizona and had a son, it didn't say they got married or that they are still together. I have a feeling their relationship ended a long time ago.

ETA: I rewatched this episode today, and I noticed that Dwight didn't blink the whole time he was onscreen. I think he was stoned. Maybe that's why he didn't sound right.

Edited by walkabout123, May 31, 2012 @ 7:42 PM.


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Posted May 31, 2012 @ 9:26 AM

They did show a picture of Dwight, Barbara and their child at the end.


Wasn't it her daughter in that picture? I believe they had a son later on. Lucky it was for Dwight that Barbara knew so much about getting all those tickets reproduced and was good at forgery.

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Posted May 31, 2012 @ 5:00 PM

Wasn't it her daughter in that picture? I believe they had a son later on.



I remember that Dwight's wife had a daughter before they met, and they did mention a son later. I wasn't clear to me at the time who the child was in the picture. I guess I was still trying to figure out Dwight when they showed the family pictures. Seems like the have featured a lot of "characters" this season. Between "The Actor," the guy smuggling drugs from Nepal, and Dwight, it's been a very interesting season!

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Posted Jun 2, 2012 @ 12:47 AM

"Drug Mule Mom" sure f*cked up, huh?

I'm glad she got home, but I wasn't sure how she would get treatment as she was broke before she wound up in stir.

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Posted Jun 2, 2012 @ 5:30 AM

I'm glad she got home, but I wasn't sure how she would get treatment as she was broke before she wound up in stir.

I kept wondering why she didn't appeal to the American Embassy in Peru. Surely she could have gotten a transfer to a US prison? I kept thinking something was being left out.

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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 12:06 AM

Watched the marathon that was on today, or well I guess it was yesterday now. I had seen all of them that were on before but watched anyway 'cause it had been awhile. I had forgotten though just how much the counterfeiter, steroid-user who got busted in Mexico pissed me off. While it seems like he did learn from his prison time there was just something about him that bugged the hell out of me. Maybe it was because he was not only smuggling steroids and morphine into the US but he was using fake money that he printed to do it! He also didn't strike me as very bright - when the old guy at the little store was looking at the money why didn't dumbass and his friend just wait for the guy to come up to them and then play innocent. If it were me I'd just protest that I knew nothing about it and that I had gotten the money out of an ATM (and by the way if I were to ever get the nerve to counterfeit I'd do $20s just so I could use that excuse). I'd offer to give the guy back his change and merchandise, apologize profusely, and then get the hell out of dodge.
The other thing that bugged me was that this guy got released to the US but they never said what happened to the neighbor who went down with him (even though they said that the girlfriend was let go). I had a feeling the neighbor ended up being deported and got a worse deal than the guy who did most of the crime.

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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 1:30 PM

I kept wondering why she didn't appeal to the American Embassy in Peru. Surely she could have gotten a transfer to a US prison? I kept thinking something was being left out.


One of the things that bothers me about some episodes are how details at the beginning are explained while many details at the end are left out, especially in this episode. It seemed to me that the officials in Peru wouldn't want an American citizen to die of cancer in one of their jails. Why not just deport her to the United States and let her be America's problem? If the US refused to take her, then how did she get back into the country?

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Posted Jun 3, 2012 @ 3:35 PM

I felt bad for the American truck driver/contractor in Iraq who was kidnapped. I wonder how the rest of the people in the convoy can live with themselves after they drove off and left the poor guy to be kidnapped.


This story really intrigued me so I did some Googling. This is the account of the ambush from the perspective of one of the soldiers in the convoy. It really was a more gruesome chaotic situation than the show could portray. He recalls his truck passing by Tom Hamill but being unable to stop. I suspect the Humvee was in a similar situation.

Jarob D. Walsh, US Army Specialist: “We were going too fast to do anything; we couldn’t stop and help him because we were getting hit so hard with small arms fire and there were explosions everywhere. At the time, however, I wasn't even sure that we had done the right thing to leave him alone; I wasn't completely sure he was really one of ours.
As we passed him, I looked in the rearview mirror saw the truck behind us explode, then it rolled side over side down the highway. I had never seen anything like that in my life. It really shook me up, it was just like something you would see in the movies. We kept going, and came upon five or six Iraqi tanker trucks that had been blown up and were on fire; there was black smoke everywhere. We drove right through it, praying that we would not hit any debris in the fire; we couldn’t see anything. It was extremely hot in the fire and there was so much black smoke everywhere that I couldn’t breathe.“

After Specialist Walsh's truck broke down he and his driver were picked up by a Humvee that was also eventually disabled. They sat there taking fire until they were finally rescued by a tank: Walsh: “There were five people counting myself in the back of the tank. Three of them were dead.”

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Posted Jun 4, 2012 @ 6:01 AM

It seemed to me that the officials in Peru wouldn't want an American citizen to die of cancer in one of their jails. Why not just deport her to the United States and let her be America's problem?

That's exactly what I was thinking. Also, why didn't she contact the American embassy in Peru? Surely there must have been some official who was aware of her in that prison, some American. That whole thing makes no sense.....we've seen on a lot of other episodes where the American official in residence in xxx country comes to see the prisoner...in her case, nothing!

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Posted Jun 7, 2012 @ 12:39 PM

"Drug Mule Mom" sure f*cked up, huh?


Yes. While I have enormous sympathy for her health problem, I have none at all for how she got herself into a Peruvian prison. After losing her job and her husband, she sits and cries because she can't pay her 3K/month mortgage? From how it was portrayed, she and hubby probably spent every dime they earned to impress their drinking buddies, who really "admired" them. How about get another job and sell the house? She was too stressed to look for legit work, so drug smuggling is a relaxing job and the only other option?

Even when she has close calls at the airport and all those "bad feelings" she refuses to give up all that easy cash and get her butt moving to find another way to support her daughter and herself. Does it ever occur to these mules that if smuggling were so easy and safe that the people who hire them would do it themselves and save all that money they spend on people like this woman? I was truly surprised she had enough sense not to try and buy drugs from a police officer.

BTW, how fast did she go through the first 30K anyway? It seems her house was in foreclosure again very quickly.

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Posted Jun 7, 2012 @ 1:23 PM

Yes. While I have enormous sympathy for her health problem, I have none at all for how she got herself into a Peruvian prison. After losing her job and her husband, she sits and cries because she can't pay her 3K/month mortgage?


It's called downsizing, people do it all the time. Get rid of the house, go get an apartment,don't blame becoming a drug mule on your new finanical state and think about your children. She annoyed the crap out of me!

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Posted Jun 7, 2012 @ 4:27 PM

It's called downsizing, people do it all the time. Get rid of the house, go get an apartment,don't blame becoming a drug mule on your new finanical state and think about your children. She annoyed the crap out of me!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was annoyed. Granted, I don't live in a place like Miami with a high cost of living, but I also kept thinking, "Why doesn't she sell the place and move into an apartment? What is so special about that place that she has to mule drugs to make ends meet?" I was very not only annoyed, but confused as well.

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Posted Jun 7, 2012 @ 6:26 PM

She annoyed the crap out of me!


Every word she said annoyed me. She's not some flighty girl, but was a 43 year old mother of 3, whose answer to her financial woes is to jet off and visit her drug dealing friends in Austria because she needed to get away. Yes, that will help pay the mortgage, you selfish, immature ditz. When you have kids you don't have the luxury of thinking of and doing only what will please YOU.

As for jobs - there are jobs if you want to work. How many hotels there are in Miami, all needing cleaning staff? Not glamorous or fun, but doing that won't get you locked up in the slammer.

She didn't say much about it, but watching how she snorted that coke in the hotel room it seems she had a bit of a nose candy problem herself. No wonder she was broke.

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Posted Jun 10, 2012 @ 1:44 PM

This past episode was interesting. I guess the Saudi guy set Stephen up to be arrested, or was he arrested first and implicated Stephen? If they were going to execute Stephen for being gay, why release him? Also when he went to the police station he was told he didn't have a record, so the religious police don't keep records I guess, or if they do the regular police probably think they're a bunch of douchebags and shred everything they bring in.

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Posted Jun 10, 2012 @ 3:46 PM

That whole episode was odd. The way the police let him go, and the fact that he had no record. And, despite what he said, you can, indeed, remain celibate for a year or so. He acted like it was totally impossible, which it's not. Especially if you can get executed for not staying celibate. I understand the need for companionship, but still. "I needed to have sex, so even though I could be executed for doing so, I'm going to find some nookie." Not smart.
So his friend that he went there with stayed in Saudi Arabia til her contract was up, or what?

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Posted Jun 11, 2012 @ 7:13 AM

That whole episode was odd. The way the police let him go, and the fact that he had no record. And, despite what he said, you can, indeed, remain celibate for a year or so. He acted like it was totally impossible, which it's not. Especially if you can get executed for not staying celibate. I understand the need for companionship, but still. "I needed to have sex, so even though I could be executed for doing so, I'm going to find some nookie." Not smart.
So his friend that he went there with stayed in Saudi Arabia til her contract was up, or what?


I had a problem with his comment that he couldn't stay celibate for a year. It wasn't as if he could never have sex again ever. And the thing is that he knew that before he got there, so I don't get it. It wasn't as if he just fell in love with someone either, he went looking on the Internet, which itself is dangerous in any country.

They never did say what happened to his friend, Gemma I think her name was.

However that apartment he was living in was all kinds of nasty. Is Saudi Arabia cheap or something? Looks like someone's stashing all that oil money.

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Posted Jun 13, 2012 @ 6:22 AM

I had a problem with his comment that he couldn't stay celibate for a year. It wasn't as if he could never have sex again ever. And the thing is that he knew that before he got there, so I don't get it. It wasn't as if he just fell in love with someone either, he went looking on the Internet, which itself is dangerous in any country.

Totally agree with all the above. I found as difficult to feel bad for him as I feel for the usual drug mules. Do something extremely risky and stupid in a foreign country, pay the price. Especially a crime that carries the death penalty!
I was wondering about that apartment too; didn't the contract specify "luxury accommodations"? Yuk.

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Posted Jun 21, 2012 @ 10:45 AM

I did not find the married couple who went to South America (Guyana?) so she could train exotic dancers to be credible. Their return trip home had multiple stops. Even if they were indeed threatened at the first airport, why didn't they just ask to speak with security at the next stop? I think it makes more sense that they went down there and failed the mission. It seems to me that drug dealers can find lots of people willing to move their drugs around (isn't that what this show is all about?) No need to barge into motel rooms with weapons blazing at innocent people.

Regarding the Colombia kidnapping story, I found it interesting how the different captives reacted to their circumstances. The man from Israel tried to escape many times and seemed very brave. My luck I would have gotten lost in the jungle and unwittingly come right back to the campsite. The woman from Germany was clearly showing signs of the Stockholm Syndrome, yet her posing with a weapon for the press (while kidnapped) defies logic.

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Posted Jun 21, 2012 @ 11:54 AM

I did not find the married couple who went to South America (Guyana?) so she could train exotic dancers to be credible.


I found them to be stupid. Yet another one where they get sucked in by some bullshit story. Yeah. Go to another country to train women to be pole dancers and lap dancers. Because it's so hard to find people to train women to do this. Because it's so hard to learn. Yeah, that story sounds totally legit. This is why I love this show. P.T Barnum was right.

Edited by OSM Mom, Jun 21, 2012 @ 11:54 AM.


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Posted Jun 21, 2012 @ 3:02 PM

I definitely questioned whether the couple from last night's episode was extremely stupid or in on the whole smuggling thing from the get go. I wasn't aware that pole/lap dancers needed to be "trained," so that would have been a clue to me that maybe going to Guyana under those circumstances wasn't a good idea. Despite their stupidity/complicity (take your pick), I did feel sorry that the husband was permanently disabled from his stint in prison, while the wife had a country club like existence in the same prison.

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Posted Jun 22, 2012 @ 8:57 AM

I did not find the married couple who went to South America (Guyana?) so she could train exotic dancers to be credible. Their return trip home had multiple stops. Even if they were indeed threatened at the first airport, why didn't they just ask to speak with security at the next stop? I think it makes more sense that they went down there and failed the mission. It seems to me that drug dealers can find lots of people willing to move their drugs around (isn't that what this show is all about?) No need to barge into motel rooms with weapons blazing at innocent people.


Did they ever say what year this occurred? If it happened, like thirty years ago I might believe them, however if this happened in the 90's or more recently I really think they were either lying or just very stupid, wanting to get something for nothing. I mean who goes to Guyana to train their table dancers? I mean would a club owner from another country come to the US to see how the exotic dancers performed? Doesn't make sense to me.

ETA: This happened about 10 years ago? No, I don't believe it 100%. But what I also don't get is why don't the governments just deport these fools? Why should their taxpayers have to pay for them to be housed in their prisons?

One thing I have heard is that these drug cartels have figured out the police in a lot of these countries are quite dim. They haven't realized that if they catch someone with 8 kilos of cocaine there's probably someone else, maybe on the next plane, smuggling like 50 kilos. Damn, even if the people in the show get that, why can't the cops?

Something else I always notice in these shows, the difference between men and women's prisons; as different as day and night.

Edited by EndoKE, Jun 23, 2012 @ 2:40 PM.


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Posted Jun 25, 2012 @ 10:54 AM

The exotic dancer wanted to hear what she wanted to hear -- paid job in other exotic country and kind of ignored the warning signs that the husband picked up. When I was watching this show, I really thought that they would not be married at the end of the show. I was wrong.

The husband did say that looking back on it, it was clear that they were set up for being arrested for smuggling to draw attention from other activities.

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Posted Jun 25, 2012 @ 1:28 PM

Did they ever say what year this occurred? If it happened, like thirty years ago I might believe them, however if this happened in the 90's or more recently I really think they were either lying or just very stupid, wanting to get something for nothing.


I believe they said that they were released in 2005 after serving 2 years.

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Posted Jun 25, 2012 @ 9:01 PM

Just managed to see the Saudi nurse now.

despite what he said, you can, indeed, remain celibate for a year or so.


He thinks a year is a long time? Oh boy.... I also can't summon up any sympathy at all for someone who thinks getting laid - with a one night stand yet! - is worth a possible execution.

I loved the "Ministry of Virtue". So very Orwellian!

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Posted Jun 28, 2012 @ 12:31 PM

Don't know if I believe the man in last night's story who claims to have been Uday Hussein's body double, but it was a fascinating story. At one point I half expected the "bullet taker" to shoot Uday and assume his identity. You just knew he would get through at the border, though. As soon as he slouched down in his seat and mussed his hair, you just knew it.

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Posted Jun 28, 2012 @ 11:05 PM

I'm disappointed in NatGeo. They certainly have moved in the direction of hyperbole over legitimacy with this show. With the episode on Latif, Uday's body double, they did add a blurb at the end, something like "Some dispute his account." In fact there seems to be a LOT of reasons to dispute Latif's account and ZERO evidence to confirm ANY of it.

From The Tangled Tale Behind the Devil's Double

"His tales of life as Uday's body double seemed, to put it mildly, far-fetched. But those were only the beginning. Since fleeing Iraq, he claimed to have taken an Austrian policeman hostage at gunpoint, punched a judge, doused a refugee camp in petrol, enjoyed a love affair with a Saudi Arabian princess (who was later beheaded), become a North Sea ship's captain and masterminded a diamond smuggling business out of Amsterdam. Each of these claims was as sensational as it was unverifiable."


Granted, NatGeo gives us the standard "This is the personal account of..." line at the beginning of each episode, and I know people "remember" some things as they prefer to, but I was naive enough to believe NatGeo had the integrity not to trot out a completely unverified story with such strong reasons to question it's credibility. Wrong.