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#31

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:05 PM

I rarely post. But OMG. THAT was the best episode in the history of television.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:05 PM

OK, im confused on the significance to the clunker (that Desmond is Faraday's constant). It implies that Faraday knows Desmond, but a) thats true because they met in '96 or b) its true because they met on the island. (?)

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:05 PM

Wow. Totally makes up for last week's joke. Do you think "Ben's spy" is the one who unlocked the sick bay and trashed the comm equipment?

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:05 PM

I love Desmond episodes. The end when he finally speaks to Penny was so awesome, just made me so happy.

Jeremy Davies is brilliant as Faraday. Just plays the role so well.

I really want to know what is in the Black Rock Diary that Charles Widmore bought at the auction.

Poor Fisher Stevens....

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:05 PM

That was phenomenal! :o

Even beside the fantastic drama, so many answered or partially answered questions tonight: what's wrong with Daniel, why Desmond wound up in jail, why Penny is calling the island.... omg so good.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:06 PM

I lost the show after Desmond and Penny' hung up from the phone call. What did I miss?!?!?

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:06 PM

That was fucking genius. Between the awesome mindfuck and my panic over Desmond and the sheer heartbreaking awesomeness that is Desmond/Penny, this is probably the best of the season so far. I was talking to my TV for the whole last act. "Give him the number, Penny, please!" "Pick up the phone, please!" I'm still crying a little, too.

Love. Daniel. Like crazy. Frank, too. If either of them turn out to actually be nefarious, I will be heartbroken.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:06 PM

10/10 just for the Desmond/Penny scene. That made me cry like a baby.

I really think Michael or Walt was the person that helped Des and Sayid.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:06 PM

Best episode of Lost ever. The pattern holds: Kate episodes meh, Desmond episodes amazing. And the way Jeremy Davies modulated his performance as a crankier, younger, less humble Oxforder was perfect.

For me, this show is actually about Desmond and Penny just as much as The Office UK was really about Tim and Dawn. The quick edits at the end as they're talking over each other were perfect.

Edited by wickedawesome, Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:07 PM.


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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:06 PM

I am in love & lust with Desmond. And Daniel. And Sayid.

And Jin, even though we won't see him until next week.

Best. Episode. Ever. And as confusing as it was, I somehow feel like it made...*sense*!

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:06 PM

Wow! such a wow and gasp show! The first one that's ever incited me to post on a forum!
I love Desmond
AND Charlie isn't necessarally dead totally rocked my socks and made me want to cry at the thought of Des dying

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:07 PM

What did the note book page say?!


Faraday wrote that if something went wrong that Desmond could be his constant.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:07 PM

That? Was brilliant.

The take on a "constant" and what a constant refers to? Extremely clever. The scene between Penny and Desmond? Absolute perfection. Daniel? Awesome.

There are no words. Seriously.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:07 PM

I'm firmly convinced that Widmore is the money behind Dharma. And he may be 'The Economist'. Now the question posed by this episode is: Is Daniel involved with Dharma? And/or are his companions?

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:07 PM

I kept expecting Michael to show up at the very end. That was a little disappointing.

But the rest - WOW! Desmond episodes are always great. I definitely teared up at the end. I don't care what else happens, but Desmond and Penny HAVE to be reunited.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:07 PM

So is it possible that Jacob is stuck between different points in time?

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:07 PM

So Des being Daniel's constant means what exactly?

My guess is shortly after meeting Des, Faraday used the machine on himself and started time tripping. Probably why he seems a little bit crazy and was under a nurse's care in the season opener. So Des is the one at the beginning and the end.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:08 PM

Next week looks great too, but I do not know how that can top this episode.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:08 PM

I screamed, out loud, SEVERAL times, WTF?!, over the course of this episode.

Bloody brilliant, brutha!

I don't get it, and I need to watch again, but, wow. Just wow.

The cutaway of Faraday's notebook, noting Desmond as his constant?

Bloody genius

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:09 PM

Oh my goodness. I'm spent. That was so weird and so wonderful. The Desmond/Penny story is one of the most beautiful romances EVER.

So the Lostpedia version of the timeline is screwy. I was beginning to think so when last week passed with no Christmas. I think the problem happened with "The Brig." One of the datestamps was off. It made it seem like the Losties went three days after "D.O.C." without doing anything.

What was with the four non-Xed days in October?

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:09 PM

Angeepang:What did the note book page say?!


If anything Goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant.

That was easily a top 5 all-time LOST episode.

The actors tonight all came through the screen.

Hey, so Mr. Widmore knows something, it is plain obvious now. He is buying the book/manifest from the Black Rock? But in 1996 no less? And all the numbers tonight (Faraday's number he gave Des, the bid paddle, the Penelope's address and phone number, my goodness, they have to be Hurley's at some level. It is still early, but I know the minds on this board will connect them all.

There should be an emmy for Mr. Henry Ian Cusick for tonight's performance alone.

Edited by ec2, Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:10 PM.


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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:09 PM

Was it just me who heard that the Black Rock was lost in 1847 or something like that? I'm confused by that...

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:09 PM

And Desmond with short hair...holy hot man.

See, I thought for sure they were gonna kill him off because he was able to cut his hair for those scenes.

Oh my god, how I love Desmond!! And Sayid! And Penny! And Daniel (with Desmond as his constant)!

Thank you, Show, for not killing off a character I actually care about.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:09 PM

That was a great Christmas episode. Full of hope.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:09 PM

Desmond is changing the future with his jumps. Now Daniel's journal contains a Desmond reference. The whole future is up for grabs.

And that Christmas Eve phone call made me melt. I'll take these two over Kate and James/Jack any day!

Edited by debi48, Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:11 PM.


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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:10 PM

holy crap that was good.

Can someone pls remind me what Hanso is? Is it the people behind Dharma? Cause at the auction they said that the book from the Black Rock was bought by Hanso. Also, I need a reminder about the Black Rock. Isn't there a Black Rock on the island? Was it the actual crashed ship?

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:10 PM

My guess is shortly after meeting Des, Faraday used the machine on himself and started time tripping. Probably why he seems a little bit crazy and was under a nurse's care in the season opener. So Des is the one at the beginning and the end.


Yeah that was my guess to. Plus he had the knowledge that he knew Desmond in the future as well so he felt relatively safe doing it.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:10 PM

AND Charlie isn't necessarally dead totally rocked my socks and made me want to cry at the thought of Des dying

Charlie IS dead...Penny was talking about the convo she had with charlie in the moonpool right before Charlie died.

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:11 PM

Am I hallucinating, or was that Black Rock ship the same on the island? And the last name of the owner was HANSO? I don't know what to make of this. Perhaps he was the Hanso of the Orientation videos' relative and that's how they found their location for Dharma?

No hallucination. The Black Rock that they were talking about has to be the same ship that is now on the Island. I cannot wait to see what that diary might hold. They said the seller was named Tovard (or Tovar?) Hanso. The proverbial head of the Dharma Initiative was Alvar Hanso. Interestingly, they also said that "the family" were the only people who know what was in the diary. And, if the ship is now on the Island, it's just possible that the diary would be able to describe where the Island is. So the Hanso family knows what's in the diary, and Widmore now owns a set of directions to the Island. Oh man why does it take an entire week for the next episode??

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Posted Feb 28, 2008 @ 10:11 PM

Was it just me who heard that the Black Rock was lost in 1847 or something like that? I'm confused by that...


why, no contradictions leap to mind.