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Ratings and Scheduling: Miracle Needed?


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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 2:30 PM

Series Premiere will be on Wednesday, October 3 at 8 pm ET/PT on ABC.

It will be up against Kid Nation on CBS, Deal or No Deal on NBC, Back to You/'Til Death on Fox, and America's Next Top Model on the CW.

It will be available in streaming video from ABC.com starting October 4.

ABC will re-air the pilot on Friday, October 5 at 8 pm.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 2:41 PM

It also airs one day early (Tuesdays) on CTV i Canada. It premieres October 2nd there.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 3:01 PM

Based upon what the other ABC dramas have been pulling in...I'm predicting between 8-15 million. Yes, its a fairly lengthy gap, but...there are a lot of factors to consider and it could go either way.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 3:05 PM

My guess is 10 million viewers for the premiere, which later in the season could/will drop to between 8-10 million.

My extremley optimistic guess is for 12 million, but people just don't watch shows I love and I don't think that will happen. People are very free to prove me wrong though.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 3:17 PM

So, i think we've settled then(based on the general thread), that if worse comes to worse, and PD starts averaging 8 million: Will that be enough?

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 3:42 PM

There are a lot of factors to consider: what the competition is getting, the 18-49 demo, ABC's other shows. According to Marc Berman, this past Wednesday Private Practice debuted at 14.24 million and Dirty Sexy Money at 10.42 million. I don't know what's expected of an 8:00 show, but if PD doesn't get comparable numbers, it could be a problem. Also, if it starts with reasonably high numbers and drops dramatically, it's not a good sign. I saw this happen last year with The Nine and Six Degrees.

I hope the show gets good ratings, but I really have no idea if the average Nielsen viewer will want to see this show. I am cautiously optimistic about the amount of promotion ABC has put into this but in the end it will come down to numbers.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 4:32 PM

So, i think we've settled then(based on the general thread), that if worse comes to worse, and PD starts averaging 8 million: Will that be enough?


I think ABC will try to get some buck out of the huge promotion money they put into the show and the critical love they're already getting for it, but that they're rumored to have gone over budget in the pilot is pretty worrisome. It means that PD is an expensive show and expensive shows and low or even mediocre ratings just don't mix well.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 11:50 PM

There isn't a lot of competition in the Wednesday at 8 timeslot, so hopefully that will bode well for the show.

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Posted Sep 30, 2007 @ 3:57 AM

Given that this season's fall line-up has been pretty lackluster with few really great stand-outs, I'm thinking it's pretty smart to wait a week until after everything else premieres so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle. I was so disappointed with a lot of premieres, so I'm really looking forward to seeing something fun and fresh and funny and good. If they ever decide to play around with the scheduling, I'm wondering if it would fit in well with Ugly Betty.

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Posted Sep 30, 2007 @ 9:29 AM

If they ever decide to play around with the scheduling, I'm wondering if it would fit in well with Ugly Betty.

It could also be too much to have two quirky shows follow eachother.

There isn't a lot of competition in the Wednesday at 8 timeslot, so hopefully that will bode well for the show.

At first it looked like Kid Nation might be a strong competiton, but after two weeks that show has lost a lot of viewers already. The comedies on FOX are not doing that well either and NCB has Deal or No Deal that is very different from PD and CW has ANTM. PD is actually the only scripted drama in that slot and I hope that will help as well.

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Posted Oct 1, 2007 @ 1:48 PM

PD is actually the only scripted drama in that slot and I hope that will help as well.

The fact that it is the only scripted drama and the last show to premiere in the hour will definitely be a plus for it. Also, the competition isn't as tough as media pundits thought it was going to be. Kid Nation, Fox's sitcoms and DOND all showed declines in their second outings. So, I'm expecting PD to pull in a respectable 11-12 million viewers and at least a 4.0 in the key 18-49 demo.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 2:39 AM

If there's one thing ABC knows how to promote, it's the premiere of a drama. Considering that ABC has put as much money and focus into this as it did Ugly Betty last season, I can see 15 million+ for the premiere. Whether it stays there or not is another question.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 9:07 PM

So, CTV is airing it on a different night in Canada? Or was that a one-time thing? Because I just saw it and came here hoping to talk about it only to find the thread still locked with tomorrow's date...

I had no idea we were getting it on a different night.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 10:19 PM

Probably permanent unless it pulls bigger ratings than the show they're currently airing at 8 on Wednesdays, in which case they'll start simulcasting so they can sponge off the American broadcast.

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 1:49 PM

I heard two girls in my Spanish class talking about how excited they were to see this tonight. It gave me hope!

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 8:59 AM

According to Michael Ausiello at TV Guide, Pushing Daisies did very well last night.

Good Ratings Rumors!

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:26 AM

I'm going to do some cautious preliminary celebrating, but save the real party for the official numbers.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:32 AM

From Berman:

In series-premiere news, ABC's critically applauded Pushing Daisies opened on a winning note, with a 9.0 rating/15 share in the metered markets from 8-9 p.m. Although that pales in comparison (in the overnights, that is) to Dancing With the Stars on the year-ago evening (12.3/19 on Oct. 4, 2006), it was still 20 percent above No. 2 time period occupant Deal or No Deal on NBC (7.5/12). And this is a solid start for Pushing Daisies.

Very good news.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:35 AM

Very good this show is amazing i'm glad it got high ratings.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:38 AM

Very good indeed! That's what? About 13-14 million viewers. Those are pretty good numbers for an initial sampling, considering the competition too. ABC has to be pleased this morning. Let's hope those Nielsen families return next week.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:43 AM

*faints* I can't believe it! This is wonderful.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:47 AM

This makes me so happy!! Now let's hope they can keep the momentum going.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:49 AM

While I'm trying to remain realistic because it's not until the second week's ratings that you can tell how much leg a new show has (much like a movie premiere) I'm feeling a real need to do a happy dance. I'm thrilled, nay beyond thrilled with these numbers. Woohoo!!

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:55 AM

Must be some kind of hallucination. Too awesome.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:58 AM

I'm going to hold off on the happy dance for a couple of weeks. Hopefully, these numbers will hold up.

Does anyone know if these numbers include DVR data?

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 11:04 AM

This is great news. Let's hope it stays this way next week.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 11:05 AM

It's much too early for the numbers to include the dvr data.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 11:08 AM

Does anyone know if these numbers include DVR data?

DVR data won't be available for at least 3 weeks.

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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 11:25 AM

More on the ratings from Media Life:

The 8 p.m. Wednesday timeslot may finally have its dominant show. Last night's highly anticipated debut of the quirky new ABC drama "Pushing Daisies" pulled strong numbers, far outdistancing the competition among adults 18-49 in a timeslot with two other new programs.

"Daisies" averaged a 4.2 in adults 18-49, according to Nielsen overnights, easily winning its 8 p.m. slot. NBC's "Deal or No Deal" was second at a 2.8.

The show grew slightly from its first to its second half hour, from a 4.2 to a 4.3, and was the night's No. 2 show among total viewers behind CBS's "Criminal Minds," drawing 12.8 million.



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Posted Oct 4, 2007 @ 11:27 AM

And even more from PIFeedback:

In series-premiere news, ABC’s critically applauded Pushing Daisies opened on a winning note, with 12.83 million viewers and a 4.3 rating/13 share among adults 18-49. Comparably, that came in on par with year-ago occupant Dancing With the Stars among adults 18-49 (Viewers: 17.49 million; A18-49: 4.5/13 on Oct. 4, 2006). And it beat NBC’s second-place Deal or No Deal (Viewers: 11.07 million; A18-49: 2.8/ 8) by 1.76 million viewers and a hefty 54 percent among adults 18-49.