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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 11:23 AM

Spoilery!

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 1:58 PM

( set photos )

Source: pushing-daisies.com

I've been meaning to ask how Ned and Chuck will ever get a close contact and now... I have my answer.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 3:09 PM

Episode Titles:

1x1: Pie-lette
1x2: Dummy
1x3: The Fun In Funeral
1x4: Pigeons
1x5: Girth
1x6 Bitches

There we go, thanks Illyria!

Edited by shadowmagist, Sep 28, 2007 @ 5:23 PM.


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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 3:46 PM

I think you've missed one episode:

1.01 Pie-lette
1.02 Dummy
1.03 The Fun in Funeral
1.04 Pigeon
1.05 Girth
1.06 Bitches

And there's a lot of spoilers from sides from all those episodes out, but here's the official description from ABC about Dummy:

When an automotive expert is found dead (ironically enough) after a strange hit-and-run accident, Ned suspects there's more to the story, especially when he finds out the deceased worked for a company about to launch an experimental car. Meanwhile, Chuck wants some answers about how Ned brought her back to life

And promo photos here.

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 6:13 PM

1.01 Pie-lette
1.02 Dummy
1.03 The Fun in Funeral
1.04 Pigeon
1.05 Girth
1.06 Bitches
1.07 Bitter Sweets
1.08 Smell of Success
1.09 Rival Darlings
1.10 12 Corpses
1.11 Fruity Buddha

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Posted Sep 28, 2007 @ 10:27 PM

7-11 hasn't been officially confirmed, so I don't really trust that those are the actual titles. Although I really like the titles of the 3 last ones and wouldn't mind if those actually are the real titles. "Smell of Success" is a little meh.

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Posted Sep 29, 2007 @ 2:51 PM

Hello fellow Pie Pushers - I was lucky enough to visit the set of Pushing Daisies this past week. During my visit I was able to check out an advanced copy of the second episode, "Dummy". I think someone would kill me if I spilled too much about it, but I can say this - everything we loved about the pilot - the visual aspects, the narration, the unique writing...all carried through to the 2nd episode flawlessly. I really, really enjoyed it and I am 100% convinced that If the show stays around (and let's pray that it does), Ned & Chuck have the potential to be the most loved TV couple of all time. There are some beyond sweet moments with them in the 2nd episode.

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Posted Sep 29, 2007 @ 5:42 PM

everything we loved about the pilot - the visual aspects, the narration, the unique writing...all carried through to the 2nd episode flawlessly.


That's very good to know. Some reviewers seem to think that it will be difficult for the show to meet the quality of the pilot, so your opinion is extremely reassuring. Will you be posting anything about visiting the set on your site?

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Posted Sep 29, 2007 @ 6:12 PM

The extent of my extant excitement is now extended.

After losing 'The Nine' last year, I fully expect the show to be smothered in its sleep.

I just hope they get to the musical episode they talked about...

(Also, Fruity Buddha is an amazing title).

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 12:57 PM

The tricksy Canadians get the show a day early, and will be free to discuss the entire episode in here, so if you don't want to be completely spoiled for it, you'll want to avoid this thread from this evening until after you've seen the show.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 5:33 PM

Thanks for clearing that up, Barnes. I'll be back later to discuss Pie-lette, but until then here's the official description and promo photos for episode 1.03 "The Fun in Funeral" from ABC:

ANOTHER DEATH AT THE FUNERAL HOME LEADS NED BACK TO COEUR D'COEURS, ON ABC'S "PUSHING DAISIES"

"The Fun in Funeral" Another strange death at the Schatz Funeral Home leads Ned back to the scene where he brought Chuck back to life. Meanwhile, Olive unwittingly becomes the messenger in Chuck's plan to bring a little sunshine into the lives of Aunts Lily and Vivian via some anti-depressant laced pies, on Pushing Daisies," WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 17 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

"Pushing Daisies" stars Lee as Ned, Anna Friel as Chuck, Chi McBride as Emerson Cod, Ellen Greene as Vivian, with Swoosie Kurtz as Lily and Kristin Chenoweth as Olive Snook. Jim Dale is the narrator.

Guest starring in "The Fun in Funeral" are Field Cate as young Ned, Sy Richardson as the coroner, Eddie Shin as Wilfred Woodruff, Raul Esparza as Alfredo, Sam Pancake as Donald Funk, Brad Grunberg as Louis and Lawrence Schatz, Victor Z. Isaac as the delivery boy, Howard Mann as the elderly man and Kristin Dos Santos as the 30s woman.

"The Fun in Funeral" was written by Bryan Fuller and directed by Paul Edwards.

And 3 HQ promo photos. They're not spoilery. The episode airs October 17th.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 5:49 PM

I've thrown all the sides up into this post. I need to reupload some of them since they were timed out though.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 9:11 PM

Having seen the pilot (did not know until I came here just now that we were getting it early) I have mixed feelings. I loved Wonderfalls, Dead Like Me and other shows these same people have been involved with. And parts of the pilot were really well done. But I think the over-riding premise might just be too depressing for me to continue week after week watching it. If they had stuck with that just being his thing, maybe. But the doomed love thing where they can never kiss, never touch, never brush up against each other by accident, even...well, it just depressed the heck out of me. She was more fun than I thought, and he was okay (if a bit wooden). But it's just such a horribly depressing central concept, I just can't get over that. They can never touch! One false move, and she bites it! It's such a horrible idea.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 9:32 PM

I know that at least some of the critics were raving, but I found it overly cute and precious (and I say that as someone who likes Geraldine McEwan). I hated the narration.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 10:07 PM

A Canuck signing in to say I watched it tonight and I loved it!

Of course I am a fan of Wonderfalls, Dead Like Me and Heroes so even if the premise had *not* engaged me, I'd have tuned in just for Bryan Fuller.

I do worry about how long I can stand the "they can never touch" bit -- I remember when a "if they touch he will die" thing was done in Dark Angel and I really hated it.

For now, it works but I think they need a loophole of some sort. Unless they are keeping the option open so if they ever tire of the actress they can pull a "and then, unexpectedly, a gust of wind blew them together and she died."

OK, I am rambling, I am a rambler.

I liked the people who were cast.

I liked the narration.

I liked the intro and the overdone colours.

I liked the dog.

And the only thing I didn't like was the plot device that they cannot ever touch again.

I am definitely tuning in again!!!

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 10:24 PM

I really, really loved it too, cagewench, even if I saw the pilot many times already! HDTV is perfect for this show.

I'll leave most of my comments for tomorrow, but I really hope that the American audience gives it a chance, and ABC is willing to allow the show to grow. There is nothing on TV like it, and I still haven't gotten over Fox's shitty treatment of Wonderfalls - even after all these years.

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Posted Oct 2, 2007 @ 10:37 PM

But it's just such a horribly depressing central concept, I just can't get over that. They can never touch! One false move, and she bites it! It's such a horrible idea.

I don't get how that is depressing, it's no "worse" than other couples on tv that you know like each other but never get together. You just get a slightly different take on it here, they actually talk about it and it's not like they're accidentally going to touch and she dies. It's a fairy tale. A fairy tale mixed with comedy and I don't get how that is depressing.

The "they can't touch" part is also very different from Dark Angel, we already know they're going to develop their story and it's not going to be stale and unimaginative. Again: it's like a fairy tale. I think there's going to be plenty of loopholes, but without actually touching.

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 7:42 AM

With the kissing monkeys... did anyone else think that Bryan Fuller likes monkeys? It made me think of when Jaye stole the monkey from her (and her mother's) therapist...

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 11:52 AM

Just saw the premiere episode on the Canadian channel.... what a beautifully cinematic and adorable show this is. It's very, very strange, yet somehow manages to weave a spell around you.

As for depressing no, it's actually not. I understand how the central premise looks depressing on paper, but in practice it leads to these wonderfully warm, beautiful moments. I think the key is that neither of the leads seems depressed about it. They just kinda work around it, seemingly delighted merely to be in the same room with each other. It's not the sort of show and these aren't the kind of characters in the kind of relationship where it seems like they're just dying to rip each others clothes off and get physical. If that makes any sense.

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 1:03 PM

I just watched it yesterday and I think will be one of my favourite shows to watch. It's such an cute, funny show. And it's nice to see Chi back on my tv screen. I loved him on Boston Public, and glad he's back on tv, plus it looks like he lost a lot of weight. Ned is a cutie, he's so awkward but so loveable. I can't wait to watch more episodes.

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 1:41 PM

I watched the the pilot on CTV yesterday and I noticed at least one instance of dialogue having been cut from the "original" pilot that was leaked awhile ago and the pilot that actually aired. Did anyone notice anything cut or added for that matter?

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 2:14 PM

What dialogue had been cut? I haven't had time to watch the version that aired yet but I will later tonight.

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 2:41 PM

I found these at spoilerfix.com:
# Episode 1.02 - Dummy [Airing October 10]: Ned revives Bernard Slaybaugh, an auto safety specialist who was murdered. He doesn't know who killed him but wants Ned and Chuck to tell a woman, Jeanine, that he loved her. Jeanine is a model working for a car company. Not long after she makes some revelations about Bernard, she ends up in the hospital. Ned accidentally revives a woman who died while on a Ferris Wheel and learns that she had donated her body to science.

Episode 1.03 - The Fun in Funeral [Airing October 17]: Ned and Chuck speak to a dead man named Donald Funk, who worked at the same funeral home as Lawrence Schatz, who they find out died 1 minute after Ned brought Chuck back to life. Donald and Lawrence were partners in stealing flowers from graves and jewelry from bodies of clients of the funeral home.

Episode 1.04 - Pigeon [Airing October 24]: Ned and Emerson visit the morgue and find a lady talking to the coroner and an insurance agent about her dead husband and whether his death was accidental or suicide. When Ned wakes the man, he claims he was hijacked. After investigating, Ned and Emerson figure out that the hijacker is the man that Chuck has seemed to fall for.

Episode 1.05 - Girth: A jockey dies and Olive convinces Ned and Emerson to bring him back to life and find out who killed him. The temporarily un-dead man tells them a man named John Joseph Jacob killed him but claims that John Joseph Jacob died seven years ago, so it had to have been his ghost. Olive's confession about her past occupation surprises them all, and she claims the ghost has come back to get revenge on a group of jockeys that killed him years before. Chuck is decorating Pie Hole for Halloween and she and Olive argue over whether or not Ned hates the holiday. Source: SpoilerFix.com

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 6:16 PM

With the kissing monkeys... did anyone else think that Bryan Fuller likes monkeys? It made me think of when Jaye stole the monkey from her (and her mother's) therapist...


I am pretty sure the gold monkeys underneath were the monkeys from Wonderfalls. Would make sense considering that Fuller still seems to own quite a number of the talking animals if the smushed lion in Heroes is any indication.


According to these picture Chuck dates Dash Mihok in Episode 3 or 4 and daydreams it's Ned.

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Posted Oct 3, 2007 @ 8:26 PM

Here's the official description and promo photos for episode 1.04 "Pigeon" from ABC:

"Pigeon" - A plane crash into an apartment building leaves the trio with a case - did the pilot commit suicide? - while Chuck finds herself drawn to the man who appears to be the sole survivor (guest star Dash Mihok), much to Ned's distress. Meanwhile, Olive takes a wounded messenger pigeon to the Aunts for help.


And 8 HQ promo photos. They don't really contain any spoilers. The episode airs October 24th.

Edited by daisiepusher, Oct 12, 2007 @ 1:51 PM.


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Posted Oct 8, 2007 @ 6:08 PM

I guess this is more speculation than spoilers (but I don't think we have a speculation thread yet) - but I wonder if we'll ever see Ned's father during the series.

In the first episode, the narrator tells us that Ned's father packed him off to boarding school almost immediately after his mother dies and I think I remember seeing on another site some casting sides that at least made mention of Ned's father (in a flash-back sequence that dealt with Ned's time at boarding school). I just wonder with how closed off Ned is if he has any sort of relationship with his father, and if his father will ever show up on the show.

Also, someone in the old PD thread suggested that Tom Amandes (Everwood) should play Ned's father, and I think that would be 10 kinds of awesome.

Edited by kostgard, Oct 8, 2007 @ 6:09 PM.


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Posted Oct 8, 2007 @ 7:25 PM

Also, someone in the old PD thread suggested that Tom Amandes (Everwood) should play Ned's father, and I think that would be 10 kinds of awesome.


According to IMDB Ned's father is going to appear in two episodes, but since his actor looks fairly young and the actor who's playing Young Ned is going to be in four episodes, I suspect scenes with him are going to be flashbacks.

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Posted Oct 9, 2007 @ 12:24 AM

9 new HQ promo photos for "Pigeon". They contain a few spoilers, but nothing major.

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Posted Oct 9, 2007 @ 12:44 AM

9 new HQ promo photos for "Pigeon". They contain a few spoilers, but nothing major.

...why isn't Lilly wearing her eye patch?

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Posted Oct 9, 2007 @ 8:22 AM

...why isn't Lilly wearing her eye patch?


She bought a glass eye with the $50,000?