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Posted Oct 9, 2007 @ 8:42 PM

What's the true reason? And how were you privy to it?


I was told that since TWOP was sold to NBC that they are now all about censorship and that is why both Californication and Tell Me You Love Me were both taken off the main boards. And I believed it! I was wrong. Sorry TWOP...

[edited to add] Why do so many of my posts seem to land at the top of the board? It can be a little embarrassing, especially because I am wrong so much of the time. lol!

Edited by arabica, Oct 9, 2007 @ 8:58 PM.

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Posted Oct 9, 2007 @ 9:14 PM

Love that crazy bitch Mia.

I like her, too. She calls Hank on his shit.

arabica, it's ok. I'm wrong a lot.

Just saw "Bill" on Damages as a sinister guy planting bugs ins someone's apartment. Hardly recognized him; very creepy.
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Posted Oct 9, 2007 @ 11:23 PM

... since TWOP was sold to NBC ...


Seriously? oh. shit.
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Posted Oct 10, 2007 @ 6:08 AM

Or maybe the subforum was closed because only 12 of us comment on the show? Not because Sheindhart Wigs wanted it taken down.
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Posted Oct 10, 2007 @ 2:10 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't find "Pussyman" the least bit clever?


you mean, like the show?
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Posted Oct 10, 2007 @ 2:50 PM

I would love for Gillian Anderson to show up here as a one of Pussyman's girls.

I don't think Mulder & Scully ended their professional relationship with kisses & hugs.

Just saw "Bill" on Damages

He also played Lisa Kudrow's husband on "The Comeback" on the short-lived HBO show.
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Posted Oct 10, 2007 @ 7:56 PM

So... Do you all think Marcy is honestly into Dani California/women or is she just trying to punish Uncle Baldy?
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Posted Oct 10, 2007 @ 9:21 PM

Maybe a bit of both? It's kind of hard to tell. From dialog we have her not realizing what was up with Dani and her hubby's affair until this recent episode. But she was obviously suspicious (based on acting choices) when she walked in on them during the "looking for advil" incident. So I'm not entirely sure what to make of it.

If I had to hazard a guess on writers' plan at this point, I'd say that Marcy is about to come out of the closet and leave Baldy so that he can moan to Hank about his wife "going gay" after being with him. Which is a bit of a cliched situation I suppose, but I'll reserve judgment to see if/how they handle it.
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Posted Oct 11, 2007 @ 7:23 PM

Good to see other countries are as messed up as the United States. Holy rollers want government action taken against Californication in Australia.

http://www.news.com....4-29277,00.html
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Posted Oct 11, 2007 @ 9:14 PM

Too funny Raja...as an American Catholic (that sounds weird) I found the scenes with Hank in the church wince inducing but more in a "wow.. was that written badly" way moreso than a blasphemy to my church sort of way.

Also interesting to read that this show is doing much better "down under" (about 1m viewers per ep) than it is here.

Edited by indianhoop, Oct 11, 2007 @ 9:15 PM.

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Posted Oct 12, 2007 @ 12:17 PM

The show started its terrestrial network run in the UK last night. I missed the beginning, but what I did see I enjoyed and I'll keep watching as long as the quality doesn't take a dive.

Overnights give it 1m viewers and a 6% share, which isn't great but it may build. The Guardian's review this morning was fairly positive.
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Posted Oct 12, 2007 @ 12:44 PM

I was intrigued by this show at first, but the more I watch it the more I hate it. Hank is so self-absorbed and whiny that I just find him unbearable. And his daughter has to be the most unrealistic character on TV. The writers obviously have no idea what kids are actually like. Sometimes she acts like a 24 year old Harvard grad student, other times she acts like an 8 year old who wants to spend her weekends getting ice cream with her parents instead of hanging out with her friends. And how the hell did a 13 year old with such an awful voice become the leader singer of a decent band of 17 year olds?
The main thing about this show that bothers me is how smug it is. They are trying really really hard to make Hank look like a complete badass, where I think he just comes off like whiny douchebag.
But I blame myself for being one of the many people too lazy to turn the channel after Weeds that makes Showtime think this piece of shit is actually an 'edgy' drama that makes them competitive with HBO.
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Posted Oct 12, 2007 @ 1:10 PM

cman551, I'm pretty sure Beccabot has a switch on her back with 3 settings:

A. Precocious 9 year old girl

B. Rambunctious 17 year old riot grrl

C. Introspective 24 year old young woman

Just have to flip the switch to get the desired result!!

Edited by indianhoop, Oct 12, 2007 @ 1:11 PM.

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Posted Oct 12, 2007 @ 3:11 PM

And how the hell did a 13 year old with such an awful voice become the leader singer of a decent band of 17 year olds?


And sadly if this show was somehow on the Disney Channel she would already have her next album coming out. Lohanization is a mandatory at the Magic Kingdom.
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Posted Oct 12, 2007 @ 9:05 PM

Also interesting to read that this show is doing much better "down under" (about 1m viewers per ep) than it is here.


The Aussies don't have to pay to watch Californication. It's on a regular channel there. That is why the Catholic church is trying to get it banned.

From what I understand, Californication on Showtime here in the U.S. is getting good ratings and holding on to 80 to 90 percent of Weeds audience every week and that is why it was renewed after only 3 or 4 episodes.

I am one of those 80 to 90 percent. Maybe it is because I am a DD fan? I am still not entirely sure. But Californication is like no other show I have seen before. And the songs they play on each episode? totally rock!!!
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Posted Oct 13, 2007 @ 8:23 AM

Brit here, just saw first ep. Can I ask why Mia shook Hanks hand with a shudder of disgust, when it was her who did the disgusting thing by going to bed with him in the first place?

Four nude sex scenes in one episode. I'm guessing we'll get maybe one more during the rest of the series? Hope so, because the writing seems to be quite sharpish, and I'd hate for it to hang its saleability on prurience. Also, as a guy who is similarly unable to "resist womankind", but unlike Duchovny finds that the reverse is very much not the case, guys who get unending supplies of sex do not great heroes or role models make, in my humble O.
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Posted Oct 13, 2007 @ 10:56 AM

Four nude sex scenes in one episode. I'm guessing we'll get maybe one more during the rest of the series?

The's one nude scene in episode two, then a very brief flash of breasts(like, half a second) in episode 3. That's it. Since then, there's been nowt. Onto episode 9 in the States, now.

The last two eps have been wonderful, in my opinion. The best 2, by far.
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Posted Oct 15, 2007 @ 10:59 PM

You know, at first I felt bad for Mia (that's the evil daughter's name, right?). she clearly had issues, but though I'd give her a break. clear attention seeking issues, father who ignores or at least doesn't pay much attention to her. but stealing Hank's book? Seriously just beyond anything I can write off as her having issues. That is just straight up wrong.
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 1:05 AM

The show tonight was extremely stupid. Are they trying to get cancelled? And I have nothing against porn, but I'd rather see it in...you know...an actual porn movie, not in a TV show that is purported to feature smart writing. And no Becca? Pure dreck.
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 1:35 AM

The menage a trois served was a TURN OFF.. but also hilarious! I'm starting to see Hank's appeal however...he's becoming a man who's over free sex and wants TRUE LOVE. From next week's preview, maybe Mia is pursuing the book pubishing deal to help Hank out of his rut, otherwise, I would think she's savvy enough to find an agent other then HANK'S own.

Edited by kamaiina, Oct 16, 2007 @ 1:37 AM.

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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 7:16 AM

I could barely watch Marcia and Karen stalking Hank, Charlies & fling of the week. I agee, all Hank really wants is Karen back.

How long have Karen & Hank been separated? She said Bill's getting her a Canadian diamond and is still waiting for it, but Hank had sex with that woman a year ago. Has is really taken that long for Bill to get her a ring? What an ass.

Not quite sure why Mia wants to get back at Hank. Is she jealous that he hasn't responded to her approaches? Obviously, Karen has read Hank's book so Karen will know it isn't hers. Mia must just be trying to get back at him, but won't actually go through with publishing it.

The three-way was funny because it was just what Hank DIDN'T want; Charlie's c*** anywhere near him!
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 8:51 AM

Loved the three-way episode; laughed out loud during the sex scene. Pamela S. Adlon rocked it. Loved the conversation between Hank and Karen at the end with Hank wearing the towel, moments after Karen was ready to reconcile. Karen knew the situation was totally ridiculous but also knew it was fairly normal for Hank and, you know what, she loves Hank.

I know this show has its stupid moments and unreal situations but I am totally drawn into it -- I think it has a great heart.
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 2:12 PM

Obviously, Karen has read Hank's book so Karen will know it isn't hers.

Karen told Hank she couldn't read it & was done with that part of their life together. Couldn't critique his work any longer. Think it was in the last episode while they were sitting at Karen's kitchen table, right before the carjacking.
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 5:24 PM

Are we totally sure that the novella isn't actually Mia's?
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 7:00 PM

Are we totally sure that the novella isn't actually Mia's?

No, but I would bet my "Keith Richards for President" T-shirt on it. When Mia described the plot it was the same as the description Hank gave last ep.
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 7:01 PM

Thank god for IMDB, because I could not place where I knew Marcy from adn she's Pam Segall (Now withthe last name Adlon). She has been in so many tv nd movie projects over the years, but I couldnt' place her face. She's the voice of Bobby Hill! Gotta love her.

As gross as Hank and Charlie are, it's pretty good acting on Pam A and Natasha M's part to look forlorn over losing them anyway.
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Posted Oct 16, 2007 @ 9:32 PM

Karen told Hank she couldn't read it & was done with that part of their life together. Couldn't critique his work any longer. Think it was in the last episode while they were sitting at Karen's kitchen table, right before the carjacking.

Thanks for the reminder, but he did tell her the premise of it.

Are we totally sure that the novella isn't actually Mia's?

She probably thinks it's a natural progression of passing off stories he's written as her own. grimace.
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Posted Oct 17, 2007 @ 9:51 AM

I know it's cheap and exploitative, but since this is a show I love to hate I would love for Gillian Anderson to show up here as a one of Pussyman's girls.


As someone else mentioned, I would rather see GA as an actual "love interest" for Hank, but at the same time, I'm really into the Hank/Karen pairing. It'd be funny to see her though, for sure.

The show is taking some...interesting turns. With only two more episodes left of the season, I'm interested to see where this is going to end up then. Thought the last episode was really funny with Marcy and Karen busting in on the threesome..I can tell they're going to push out the Hank/Karen angst forever. Sigh. Those two need to get together!
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Posted Oct 17, 2007 @ 9:58 AM

I would love for Gillian Anderson to show up here as a one of Pussyman's girls.

I don't think Mulder & Scully ended their professional relationship with kisses & hugs.


They're making another X-Files movie, so it's obviously not untenable.

The show tonight was extremely stupid. Are they trying to get cancelled? And I have nothing against porn, but I'd rather see it in...you know...an actual porn movie, not in a TV show that is purported to feature smart writing.


It's been renewed already, so that's hardly an issue. And I've never been so repulsed by porn. That was just...ewww, mainly because the girl was obviously ready to debase herself in anyway to get with Pussyman, so great are his pussy powers. And I can't think of anything worse than letting his pal, Penisboy, take a whack at you.

And the writing on this show has never been smart in my opinion. It continues to be the writers wanking themselves with this fantasy figure whom no woman can resist even after being utterly rejected by him. And then we have the humiliation of the agent's wife who dared think she had the right to be upset with him for cheating. Her punishment is to watch another woman ejaculate in his face (between this and typical male ejaculation on Tell Me You Love Me I'm gonna have to tarp my TV). But despite walking in on the gross setting, both women will forgive because that's part of the fantasy.

Edited by Satanic Counsel, Oct 17, 2007 @ 10:02 AM.

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Posted Oct 17, 2007 @ 12:58 PM

silas:

Brit here, just saw first ep. Can I ask why Mia shook Hanks hand with a shudder of disgust, when it was her who did the disgusting thing by going to bed with him in the first place?

I don't think that was a shudder of disgust. She was wincing from him squeezing her 'sore hand' from punching him...

postkantian:

Am I the only one who doesn't find "Pussyman" the least bit clever?


you mean, like the show?


Don't worry, I heard the entire writing staff from "Californication" is taking over writing duties on "Rescue Me" while they're on hiatus....

isiscloud:

Karen told Hank she couldn't read it & was done with that part of their life together. Couldn't critique his work any longer. Think it was in the last episode while they were sitting at Karen's kitchen table, right before the carjacking.

Thanks for the reminder, but he did tell her the premise of it.

I think he told Charlie, his agent the premise of the book, but I don't recall him giving the 'modern day lolita' spiel to Karen. Thought he only told her she had 'inspired' him to write again.... could be wrong, though.
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