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[TWoP Mars]

From Sho.com:

In a bid to spark more than a vertical relationship with Hank, Meredith convinces him to escort her to an environmental fundraiser. Before the event, Hank stops off at Karen's to deliver a gift for Becca and learns Karen is off coincidentally to the same function.

[Angelfirenze]

I think Hank's redeemed himself more than a bit tonight, no?

[Ian]

In a bid to spark more than a vertical relationship with Hank[...]

Interesting: I had no idea Hank slept standing up, or that the fund-raiser was a strictly horizontal affair.

[lanter]

This show is starting to grow on me. Hank is much more likeable when he isn't treating women like pieces of ass just waiting to be tapped by him.

The agent’s wife seems much cooler than his spank toy, what an idiot.

I really like the daughter and not just because she looks like a mini Betty Page.

Karen’s gets called a c*&t and all her fiancé does is ask if she wants the guy thrown out? I’m not saying that he should have decked the jerk like Hank did but he didn’t even tell the man to back off, not too gallant.

[Angelfirenze]

Hence, yet another reason Bill is a tool. Even his own daughter doesn't really seem to care about him. She asked Becca about him referring to him by his first name. I did wonder about that. And did I mention she managed to creep me out even more during that scene with Becca. Was it just me or did she look just as freaked?

Edited by Angelfirenze, Sep 3, 2007 @ 10:57 PM.

[Ellegado]

Yeah I thought Mia was getting near inappropriate with Becca. Chris Hansen wasn't coming to ask what she was doing, but still it was creepy.

[bayareabrad]

Wow, I thought it was weird, too. I almost thought Mia was going to lean in and kiss Becca. Maybe Mia was molested by her Dad when she was younger (maybe it's still going on!) and now she's exhibiting inappropriate sexual behavior all the time. Just a thought.

Speaking of Becca, with all the speculation about how old she is supposed to be and the age of Madeleine Martin (and IMDB is NO help with that question!), I took a good look tonight and I wouldn't be surprised if she (Madeleine) was 14 or 15.

Well, I don't think the show is really getting any better and Hank's character is only likable some of the time (when he's not being a crude jerk) but I still laugh often enough and I see Henry Rollins is guesting next week, sooooo I guess I will be back for another go round.

[Scrb]

Dream On quotient was way down, other than the secretary in the little photoshoot.

Hope they drop that story line.

[Postkantian]

This show offends me for reasons other than the gratuitous sex - like the fact that it so blatantly plays with a stacked deck.

It is easily amongst the worst written and moral abiding show on tv - the nudity and dirty talk is just a cover for old fashioned moralizing and chivalrous behavior.

Did anybody *not* know that Hank would be defending the honor of women tonight? Or that he would walk in on the boss with the secretary and suddenly turn into a marriage counselor?

My heart goes out to the other characters and actors - they're clearly just a pretext for Moody (what a crap and obvious name for a temperamental writer) to show off his 'artistic' temperament. Pretext is putting it mildly - they're more a cipher for his ego and moods.

A God awful wank - and a dog's breakfast to boot.

Edited by Postkantian, Sep 4, 2007 @ 7:03 AM.

[handsovereyes]

Most of this episode was really stupid, poorly scripted and acted. But there was one good exchange:

"You don't knock?"

"You don't lock?"

That was clever.

Evan Handler manages to keep a character charming and sexy even when he is being a cheatin jerk. This is to be complimented as well.

[kingcityguru]

This was the best episode of the season by far.
PussyMan was toned down to a level of being a real person rather than a caricature. Acting was very strong as well as the writing. If it keeps up this level, I will watch religiously while praying for a second season.

Edited by kingcityguru, Sep 4, 2007 @ 8:45 AM.

[BeanyMalone]

This was the first episode I was able to catch. I was predisposed not to hate it because I have an inexplicable fondness for David Duchovny (sue me) and I didn't, but if this was the episode where Hank starts to redeem himself, I can only imagine what the previous episodes were like. Stacked deck indeed. Sure, Hank seemed sweet. Because everyone around him is a cardboard jerk, especially the ex's new boyfriend. Kinda' easy for Hank when Bill blames the ex for someone else's asshat behavior. Why not give Bill real emotions -- anger at the insult to his girlfriend, reluctance to cause a scene in public. Maybe because then Bill would look like an adult and Hank the idiot, self-indulgent seventh grader he his? And this is the character I'm supposed to have sympathy for? I didn't think the writing was groaningly bad, but it was groaningly predictable. Not good when the defining characteristic of the main character is supposed to be unpredictability.

We'll see. Now, if next week I can just remember when it's on.

Edited by BeanyMalone, Sep 4, 2007 @ 9:06 AM.

[Postkantian]

. Why not give Boyfriend real emotions -- anger at the insult to his girlfriend, reluctance to cause a scene in public. Maybe because then Boyfriend would look like an adult and Hank the idiot, self-indulgent seventh grader he his? And this is the character I'm supposed to have sympathy for? I didn't think the writing was groaningly bad, but it was groaningly predictable. Not good when the defining characteristic of the main character is supposed to be unpredictability.

A relief to see you knew *exactly* what I meant by stacked deck, despite the obvious (and lame) play on words. I just couldn't be assed to flesh out my post either.

This sorry excuse of a show belongs on network tv - not cable. It's so frikking obvious and formulaic. But apparently the sex makes its edgy.

This was the best episode of the season by far.... If it keeps up this level, I will watch religiously while praying for a second season.

Is that you Mr Duchnovy or Kapinos? :)

Edited by Postkantian, Sep 4, 2007 @ 9:16 AM.

[dr malcolm]

Listen up people. Apparently if your opinion differs from Postkantian's, you must be involved in the show somehow. ;)

[Postkantian]

I was joking....and not so much about the difference in opinion. More it's specific content. Thought it was obvious actually - not unlike the show.

Edited by Postkantian, Sep 4, 2007 @ 10:26 AM.

[Omar G]

If this were the actual show, I'd tell you to use a butt plug and make up. Then I'd go sleep with a lady I just met.

[Angelfirenze]

Do I see a war starting? I hope not. *cringes* Oh, I don't? Awesome. *relieved*

Edited by Angelfirenze, Sep 4, 2007 @ 10:27 AM.

[Postkantian]

Are butt plugs reusable?

[TWoP Mars]

Yeah, what Omar said, only on a more serious note: Don't personally attack or get snotty with other posters who don't agree with you. People are allowed to like the show, and to dislike it. They're also allowed to be sarcastic. So let's stop this snottiness.

Talk of butt plugs obviously is fine, since this is the "Californication" forum. Heh.

Edited by TWoP Mars, Sep 4, 2007 @ 11:31 AM.

[TheLabRat]

I had a strange reaction to this one. All the action was very predictable; as someone else said, was there any doubt at all that Pussyman would be defending some honors? And yet I still enjoyed it greatly. By all rights I shouldn't have but I did. THe exchange with Hank in the office and with "Married Guy" is what did it I think.

One aspect of Hank's character that I continue to enjoy is his bizzarro nice guy to asshole ratio. I keep getting the impression that he knows exactly how much of a prick he is and that it is some sort of intentional self flaggelatory device on his part. This concept was cemented for me by the fact that he really went to bat for his Scientologist GF, and looked so hurt (as opposed to disbelieving) when Married Guy told him she'd called him a loser, but then took care of her drunken ass anyway. Definitely self flaggelatory. Which is of course another reason to hate the show as well, but it's working for me.

I really liked the exchange with Handler a great deal, he owned his own shit and reminded Mr. Agent that as hot as his little Suicide Secretary is, his wife is the bees knees. Really there was nothing about that bit I didn't like.

Hey Omar, I'm sorry you got stuck recapping a show you hate so much (and fully understand your reasons for hating it) but it sure is making for entertaining reading. I'm really looking forward to your coverage of this one.

Edited by TheLabRat, Sep 4, 2007 @ 12:07 PM.

[Omar G]

You know, I give the show a hard time in the weecaps (it's what I'm paid to do), but if you look at the ratings I've given the episodes, it's been B-, C, B and B.

I think the show has moments of lameness, but then I thought the same thing when "Six Feet Under" started. I think it may get better once it finds its feet.

If I hated the show, I'd be giving it Ds and Fs. Bs are very good ratings considering it's on the same scale as "Sopranos," "Friday Night Lights" and everything else I watch (with a little bit of weight given to a rating's relation to past episodes of the same show).

[chalkitdown]

Really liked this episode. Then again, I've liked all 4 so far. This show seems to be going down a lot better on this side of the Atlantic(Ireland, in my case) than it is in America. Every British forum I read, loves it, yet every American forum I visit seems to either hate it or have a very mixed opinions about it.

It's a strange one.

[Satanic Counsel]

PussyMan was toned down to a level of being a real person rather than a caricature.

I'm so proud! "Pussyman" caught on! I wish I could take more credit for this, but when I worked in a video store in the 80's, this was an actual line of titles so it just kinda sprung to mind.

[Naked Ambition]

Best episode yet, and DD finally seems to have found the character. Is the agent's wife the character Pamela S. Adlon is playing? I love her. She's like Janeane Garofallo only actually cute without all the raging self-hate and bitterness.

I'm also glad I wasn't the only one who noticed Mia's seemingly sexually-motivated undertones in her conversation with Hank's daughter. I totally thought she was going to lean in and kiss her passionately.

Edited by Naked Ambition, Sep 4, 2007 @ 2:59 PM.

[Pippytu]

Then again, I've liked all 4 so far. This show seems to be going down a lot better on this side of the Atlantic(Ireland, in my case) than it is in America. Every British forum I read, loves it, yet every American forum I visit seems to either hate it or have a very mixed opinions about it.

It's a strange one.

That's funny that you've said that. I just went to 4 forums and most of the people posting from the states seem to love the series. I think that with each ep it gets better and better. I'm loving Hank, great character.

Speaking of Becca, with all the speculation about how old she is supposed to be and the age of Madeleine Martin (and IMDB is NO help with that question!), I took a good look tonight and I wouldn't be surprised if she (Madeleine) was 14 or 15.

Madeleine martin is 12 years old.

[Angelfirenze]

I'm also glad I wasn't the only one who noticed Mia's seemingly sexually-motivated undertones in her conversation with Hank's daughter. I totally thought she was going to lean in and kiss her passionately.

THANK YOU! That was so...wrong.

[lanter]

I'm also glad I wasn't the only one who noticed Mia's seemingly sexually-motivated undertones in her conversation with Hank's daughter. I totally thought she was going to lean in and kiss her passionately.

Yeeess, I wanted to post something about that but I thought that maybe it was just me and I needed to lay off of Court TV for awhile.

Is the agent's wife the character Pamela S. Adlon is playing? I love her.

Yes it is and so do I. Damn, maybe Lucky Louie actually helped her career. That's a scary thought.

[Telecine]

from recap:

She says it's masturbation material for North Montana hausfraus. What a lovely woman with a non-condescending worldview.

I'm pretty sure she actually said the material was for the "North of Montana hausfraus" which actually made me laugh, because "Montana" is a street in Santa Monica, CA that the area north of it is where all the upper-class homes are situated. You have to actually drive around in the area for awhile to understand the full context of the line I guess.

It was just a LaLaLand Inside-Joke... and from the looks of the writer chick, I don't believe the great state of Montana has EVER crossed her "everything between LA and NYC is fly-over space" mind.

[beebs]

Best episode yet, and DD finally seems to have found the character.

Yep. I'd agree with that. I'm enjoying seeing DD on screen again acting as this miserable git. I find him funny.

As it's been said this episode was predictable, but I still enjoyed it. Charlie's storyline needs to end. Now. I'm hoping Hank catching them (funny!) stops it. I'm not sure about Exy. I can see why she left Hank. But for Bill? They really aren't giving this Bill guy a chance. He's very one dimensional. I get that he's safe and that's why Exy would want him... but please give him something else! It's too easy for Exy to lust after Hank when Bill's what she has at home. That just makes Exy look stupid.

I'm not liking Mia. Still. I'm not sure about Becca either...

Anyway, I'm glad it's getting better. Are there only 12 eps or is it a longer run?

Edited by beebs, Sep 5, 2007 @ 6:10 AM.

[American Snob]

Best episode so far in my opinion. There's a lot of priceless moments with Karen being called the c-word, Hank punching out the guy and Charlie and the assistant. What I like is Hank is moving further in his relationship with Meredith even though he still has those inevitable feelings for Karen. I won't be surprised if they're back together by season's end.

To answer your question beebs, I think there's 12 episodes this season. Weeds has 15 episodes and Dexter & Brotherhood both have 12 episodes each just to clarify.

Edited by American Snob, Sep 5, 2007 @ 8:37 PM.