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[meredithand]

That has to be one of my all-time favorite tv dialogues: "Hi Mom. Where's Wanda?" "I had her commited." BWAH!!

I love Joey, he's easily my favorite character. I hope they further explore his opposition to The Principle.

I'm not understanding why Sarah is helping Rhonda. I'd turn her out at a moment's notice.

Poor Margene, I just wanted to cry for her when she saw Bill flirting with the waitress. I know that there should be an aspect of "well, now she knows how Barb and Nikki felt" but it's just wrong for any pregnant wife to have to experience that.

Yikes! How dare Nikki slap Margene like that? Is Margene ever going to stand up to that? I don't really like the idea of "tattling" to Barb or Bill, but geez, I hate seeing her victimized like that.

"Well I'm going over to Beach Court..... to LIE!"

Edited because apostrophes don't equal plurals.

Edited by meredithand, Jul 9, 2007 @ 9:11 PM.

[JessicaLovejoy]

LOL. Rhonda = Worst. Surprise. Ever.

On top of spaghetti
all covered with cheese
I lost my poor rosary
and Nicki ain't pleased!

Um, someone please tell Don to never wink again.

And on the subject, I'm not sure how much more I can take of Rhonda eyefucking Heather.

Craving! I need pie! It's bad!

Hmmm. Barb has been my fave from the start, but Margene is catching up. I like that she's up to something!

AS should stick with the wavy hair she had while in bed. It really suits her features more than the bone straight deal.

Joy and Wanda's baby is unbelievably, freakishly cute.

Lychee and gin? Is that a band?

Bill is a putz.

Team Sicko Love!

Edited by JessicaLovejoy, Jul 9, 2007 @ 9:03 PM.

[lilarose6]

Okay, let me get this out of the way first:

Bill is a fucking asshole. Bill is a huge raging fucking asshole. Why the crap does any woman want this man?

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll be back later when I have some cogent thoughts about the content of the episode.

[craizydaizy3]

That has to be one of my all-time favorite tv dialogue's: "Hi Mom. Where's Wanda?" "I had her commited." BWAH!!

haha Im right there with you!!!

WTF is Bills problem? Is three wives not enough for you dumbass?! Also Bill said he never took his ring off before, but how did he pick up the other two without doing that?

Also what do you guys think Margene's motives are?

Edited by craizydaizy3, Jul 9, 2007 @ 9:07 PM.

[Katalina]

Yeah, Wanda was taken of quickly. Wanda's sane enough to know she's crazy. She states so baldly "I could be in and out of places like this for the rest of my life." That blew me away.

Seems like Bill's business ventures get him het up in other ways - wheelin' and dealin' and flirtin', oh my! And I love Maggie Gyllenhaal being on the show.

I don't think Rhonda actually slept on the streets for a week, but at least her look of perpetual arrogance is slipping a bit. And Scott may be creepy, but I don't make him as a rapist.

Those moments on the phone between Joey and Barb--I thought last season (Barb and Joey in the backyard) that Joey had a crush on Barb.

And OMG, Margene snores (like a tractor-trailer?)

[ptuscadero]

Every week, I'm having more and more Margene Girl-Love.

That has to be one of my all-time favorite tv dialogue's: "Hi Mom. Where's Wanda?" "I had her commited." BWAH!!

I swear Grace Zabriskie is the best thing about this show. She ROCKS.

Poor Margene, I just wanted to cry for her when she saw Bill flirting with the waitress. I know that there should be an aspect of "well, now she knows how Barb and Nikki felt" but it's just wrong for any pregnant wife to have to experience that.

I don't know. By the end of the show, I thought it looked like she approved of his choice.

[txmom77]

And I love Maggie Gyllenhaal being on the show.

That isn't Maggie Gyllenhaal, but she sure does look a lot like her!

[box o nuts]

Favorite moment of the episode was definitely, definitely, when Lois came driving up and casually told Joey that she'd had Wanda committed. Wow. Hilarious! Lois rocks. And good for her not giving her brother money. Obviously eddie and Bill both come by their opportunism honestly!

There is something seriously skeezy going on with that gambling company (I do NOT think Ellsworth (what's his name on this show again?) has another offer...I think he has creditors. Or trouble with the law. Or possibly a three-headed monster chasing after him, the way he was panicking in Bill's office. Trust bill to see dread/panic as scheming.

I loved Nicki's storyline - CS is just so good, I constantly find myself rooting for Nicki despite her ridiculousness. She was just so painfully vulnerable when she went to the school all dressed up in her non-compound clothes - of course her son's education would be all about her (what else, with Nicki?) but it is impressive that she could make me sympathize with her in spite of all that.

Ok, and now I realize there's a nice platonic way to interpret Heather's jealousy, but she's definitely jealous (her expression when Sarah and Scott were kissing...the comment about being last resort ...) and I choose to believe that it's because she's in wuv (aw, so cute), but unable to express it because she's repressing. (so there.)

Rhonda tonight was totally obnoxious. Only moment I liked with her was when she was trying to convince sarah that Scott had tried to rape her and Sarah wasn't buying it, and then Rhonda just dropped the bullshit and said exactly what she wanted...she is a cold calculating little shit, isn't she? I wonder at what point she stops getting to use "damaged by the compound" as an excuse?

[meredithand]

And OMG, Margene snores (like a tractor-trailer?)

It's the pregnancy doing it to her, although I generally thought that started in the later stages.

[Meghan Jill]

Wait, are you saying that really was Maggie Gyllenhall or are you kidding? Because I was just coming to post how much that waitress looked like her.

And one of the first lines of the show had me rolling: "If I gave you some pie, would you eat it?" "Sure would!" Like Bill would ever turn down "pie" from a pretty face.

And poor Sarah...talk about a rock and a hard place! Hateful as Rhonda is, Sarah's conscience is still too great to just send her back to the compound. She shouldn't have the responsibility of trying to fix that mess.

[casiobeat]

That's definitely not Maggie Gyllenhall. Although I've seen that actress before....where?? What's her name again?

[chilindrina]

OK, I actually like the waitress. Hopefully she doesn't end up being some sort of weirdo. Bill trying to flirt was a little creepy but cute at the same time. I think I found it a little creepy cause, you know, he's already married (X3).

I didn't like Sarah all that much in this episode. She sort of annoyed me. Her and Scott still give off a weird vibe. I just find them void of chemistry. I gotta say that I totally agree with Heather's "I'm tired of being your last choice" or whatever she said. Sarah just seems annoyed with Heather all the time. Why are they friends again? Heather seems to always initiate hanging out and offering to help Sarah. But it seems like Sarah just tolerates Heather and uses her as a last resort.

Heather might end the friendship by the end of the season (total spec).

Barb married the wrong brother. Joey is everything Barb needs and they understand each other. I don't want an affair or anything, but it's just sad to know that Barb would have been happier with Joey.

Lois!!! Cash in cans of peas!! I love her.

Margene was awesome!! She really is growing a backbone this season. I hope it's her growing emotionally and not hormones.

And on the subject, I'm not sure how much more I can take of Rhonda eyefucking Heather.

BWAH! and eww.

Edited by chilindrina, Jul 9, 2007 @ 10:09 PM.

[ptuscadero]

I loved Nicki's storyline - CS is just so good, I constantly find myself rooting for Nicki despite her ridiculousness. She was just so painfully vulnerable when she went to the school all dressed up in her non-compound clothes - of course her son's education would be all about her (what else, with Nicki?) but it is impressive that she could make me sympathize with her in spite of all that.

I felt for Nicki in this episode. Watching her waver back and forth was heartbreaking. The effort it must have taken to try and dress in a more normal manner was obviously agonizing for her, and the fact that she couldn't make it work was sad.

[Equipoise]

This show delivers like freakin' Dominoes:


NotCher and NotDionne: “It’s so cute hugging granny!” I love Sarah’s co-workers staging a downscale re-make of Clueless in the ebay room.

Lois: “I had her committed….It was very hard on me.” When it’s all about Bill, I’m disgusted; when it’s all about Lois, I’m delighted.

Nicki: “(The women) and they’re superior hairdos.” Seeing you all dressed up in your Anti—Praire gear only to get dissed by the PinkLadyMoms broke my heart; but pulling your kid out of school because you don’t fit in wasn’t the best move in the playbook. I’m glad it all worked out in the end, though.

Sarah’s Loser Boyfriend: “I can not have a 16 year old runaway in my apartment!” But you can make out on your couch with a high schooler?

Joey: “I think any man who lives the Principle is selfish.” I love you for saying that, chico.

Rhonda: “What’s your house like? Is it carpeted?” Hold out for central air, girl!

Bill: Memorizing the Serbian minx’s schedule, then ditching your wedding ring while fetching pie for your pregnant wife? I’m not FDLS, but I suspect lust doesn’t count as receiving testimony. At least Margene seems excited to get a new (hopefully less slappy) playmate.

Barb: The Beehive Mother of the Year people will never want you and, even if FDLS cannonized saints, I bet none of them would have a vagina. I know you want to rehabilitate your image, but maybe it's time to take a break from the rescue missions.

Serbian waitress: "If I brought you a piece of pie would you eat it?" I'm so glad we didn't have to hear her offer him any whipped cream with that.

Edited by Equipoise, Jul 10, 2007 @ 3:50 AM.

[needsleep05]

Random thoughts:

-- I was raised Catholic, but I was never all that into the religion, I don't practice it now and I haven't been to church in a looooooong time, but I got a little pissed at Nikki tonight. That being said, CS continues to rock the house.

-- All I kept thinking whenever Bill was talking to the waitress was, "Oh, you seem so sweet! Run! Run like the wind!" The last thing I want to see is Bill bringing his douchebaggy bullshit upon a fourth wife.

-- I continue to be in love with Joey and Wanda.

-- I think AS if fucking fantastic on this show and I'm glad the writers are giving her more to do this season.

-- Oh, and yay for a minimal amount of CreepyBen.

-- Yay for Heather and "Hee" for her not knowing IRON MAIDEN.

-- If there's a Big Love drinking game, a new rule should be added: Everytime Rhonda pathologically lies you should do a shot. You'd blackout about 15 minutes in, though.

Edited by needsleep05, Jul 9, 2007 @ 9:27 PM.

[Trompe L'Oeil]

Loving Margene...Barb needs to worry about her own children and not Joey.

I think Sarah seeing Ben & Brynn getting it on has unleased some carnal desire in that girl. I'm surprised her boyfriend isn't all over that. Speaking of which...Rhonda is a fucking little liar who I believe was jealous that Sarah has a boyfriend that's 52 years younger than Roman.

I felt so sorry for Nicki when she was trying to help Wayne. The girl had to check the calculator to make sure 1 + 1 = 2. I can't help but think that the girls at Juniper Creek receive NO education.

ETA ~ Lois canning money...hi-larious. Lois' brother said something about making more money once "the place actually opens". I know Lois has a laundrymat now but was there something more I missed?

Edited by Trompe L'Oeil, Jul 9, 2007 @ 9:31 PM.

[iMissEthan]

Wayne's little voice continues to break my heart. If they were still making Peanuts cartoons, he'd be a perfect Linus. And I love that he wore his school uniform all the time - the trampoline scene was great.

[Nich337]

Also Bill said he never took his ring off before, but how did he pick up the other two without doing that?

Well, Nicki obviously wouldn't see a problem with it, being raised on the compound. And he knew Margene as an employee & babysitter before he started a-wooing her, so while polygamy was definitely more of an adjustment for her, it's not like Bill could have hidden his marriage(s) from her once he started considering her as a third wife.

[casiobeat]

I finally figured out who Ana the waitress is! She's played by Branka Katic. She also played the the crazy bazillionaire's wife in Entourage - the one who failed in her attempt to sleep with Adrian Grenier.

[Cgr]

Several things I wondered about.

I thought Margene was sort of trailer trash. How did she ever go to Catholic school? And she can recite the rosary. I know nuns who can't do that!! LOL

If Wayne's school is so far away they don't know who Bill is how in the world do they drive him everyday? And do the people at the school never go to town and see billboards?

The waitress would be a fool to get involved with Bill. Can't she see thru him. When I watched the Meet the babysitter teaser his flirting with Margene was much more believable. How in the world will he explain wives 1,2 and 3? to a woman from Eastern Europe?

I think the guy selling the gambling machines is up to no good.

I need 5 cans of peas that and the commitment comments were the best!

And Wanda in the nut house. I used to work with people committed to institutions and no one got to do oil paintings. Perhaps in fancy private hospitals but not in state run ones. And she is not a danger to herself or others (unless she confessed to the poisoning- and then she would be in jail) as far as the hospital knows so she would be out in less then 3 days. At least in my experience.

Didn't think this episode was as good as last week but it is probably building to next week.

[DakotaJustice]

Bill didn't hide his marriage from Nicki or Margene when he met them - Margene knew he was married from when she was working for him, and Nicki of course wouldn't be overly concerned. I bet for him it's a distraction from all the crap happening in his 'real life'.

I think Rhonda and Heather are going to be really good friends - and I don't mean that in a lesbian type of way (the way everyone seems to think Heather is of that persuasion). Other than being the same age and working at the same place Sarah and Heather don't have all that much in common. And Heather's comment of why Sarah would rather have put Rhonda in with her boyfriend or whatever he is instead of calling her - being a last resort, especially when it was glaringly apparent that Heather would have been more than happy to assist. Attempting to hide Rhonda with a 28 yo single guy vs. with heather and family? and did you see that look that Heather and Rhonda gave each other when they saw Sarah sucking face with whatshisname - you could tell they shared the same opinion, that Sarah was sinning. Its apparent that the reason Rhonda ran away to begin with was to have a better life, with a mom who didn't ask her to marry some old geezer and with air conditioning and carpeting and being able to go to school and be with people her own age and so forth.

I LOVED Margene but Bill is still a total assahola! I think Margene is starting to feel that Bill isn't 'all that'. If she had witnessed that same scene with the waitress LAST season my guess is that she would have had a much different reaction rather than going to get acquainted with the lady. She had the oddest look on her face...

And Bill...pissed me off the way he said Joey had ruined him - um not exactly - it's the opposite IMO. I doubt if that whole thing with Alby being poisioned would have even occurred had it not been for Bill refusing to pay Roman and THEN getting Joey involved in all of his half-baked schemes.

I think that Bill's uncle is somehow in cahootz with the Weber gaming guy. Why does he just NOW show up all of a sudden? Don's radar is way up and I admired him for standing up against Bill's 'revenge' deal.


Great, great episode!

[Princess Louie]

I, too, found it fascinating that Bill gets a testimony about a new wife after seeing what a cute ass she has.

Am I the only one who thinks that Joey and Barb belong together? If Barb truly "rescued Bill from the streets," imagine what she could have done with Joey, who is realistic about his strengths and weaknesses and lacks Bill's delusions of grandeur.

Speaking of which, the way Bill handles his business -both personal and professional - I'm amazed he can even tie his shoes. I'm serious. He's an idiot.

I've been rewatching Sopranos DVDs, and had just finished watching "Whitecaps" the Season 4 finale. David Chase did the commentary, and he noted every time a character told a lie - needless to say, he was busy. So with that in mind, it amazed me how many lies are told in this show as well. I'm talking to you, Eddie. There's a lot of backstory there.

Speaking of backstory, I sure would like to know how Bill and Don Embry met and decided to go into business together. They are so different in approach and temperament, it's hard to see how they've made it this far together. I thought Don was going to resign when Bill told him they were going ahead with Weber Gaming.

And I actually got the impression that Nicki was attracted to Catholicism - at least as she saw it in the beautiful church. Maybe I mis-interpreted Chloe Sevigny's facial expressions. Or maybe her reaction was because she was attracted, and it frightened her. Fascinating that Margene, who I thought had no religious upbringing, attended Catholic school and still respects the Rosary - and remembers the prayers.

That Daveigh Chase sure has a taste for scenery. She has made Rhonda someone you love to hate. I wonder if the producers always intended for Rhonda to be so pivotal - or if Chase's performance gave them ideas.

Poor Wanda. She knows she's crazy and accepts it.

[Katalina]

I felt so sorry for Nicki when she was trying to help Wayne.

I felt sorry for Wayne. He obviously loves the school and probably loves being around kids other than siblings. I really got my Nicky-hate thing going tonight when she started teaching Wayne at home. (and I usually love Nicky).

[Scrapper]

I love Sarah's co-workers. They are biatches but very realistic teen girls. I'm so glad they came back.

"Your so racist".

This whole ep was LMAO funny. But prob was not suppose to be. The first being the way Amanda delivered the line "No they won't" after Rhonda said she would be impregnated.

I did feel bad for Bill for a mili second when he said he just wanted to be able to be public with Wayne at least once.

Though I hated that both Nikki and Bill made Wayne's education about them. Very in character though.

I love love Wanda. Poor thing knows she is crazy, embraces it, and allows people to try and help her.


The little actors that play Wayne and Ray are so good. They seem so natural like when Ray said "I wasn't" after Nikki said not to play with the Rosery.

[Chicago]

The waitress was Branka Katic, most recently the billionaire's wife who lusted after Vincent Chase in Entourage earlier this season.

I'm still torn whether Margene was heartbroken or willing to check this woman out as a potential 4th wife. There's probably a part of her that thinks SHE'S ready for the responsibility of being "senior" to another wife in the home. I cannot wait for next week!

And what's up with the laundromat? It must be a front for something. I'll have to re-watch the Tivo, but Lois definitely said something to the effect of, "Think how much money we'd make if we actually opened the doors," or somesuch.

[DakotaJustice]

I thought Margene was sort of trailer trash. How did she ever go to Catholic school? And she can recite the rosary. I know nuns who can't do that!! LOL

Not every Catholic school is pricey or exclusive.

[box o nuts]

I felt so sorry for Nicki when she was trying to help Wayne. The girl had to check the calculator to make sure 1 + 1 = 2. I can't help but think that the girls at Juniper Creek receive NO education.

No wonder she got into so much debt!

though it somehow seems more realistic that she wouldn't know how to use a calcultor, and would instead be counting it out on an abacus (ok, now I'm just being mean).

and did you see that look that Heather and Rhonda gave each other when they saw Sarah sucking face with whatshisname - you could tell they shared the same opinion, that Sarah was sinning.

I didn't get that impression from either of them (tho...granted...I could have been looking a little too hard for the lesyay). I felt like both were jealous, though for different reasons. Rhonda, because she wants the kind of life where she could do that...even if she sees it as a sin (which...I kind of doubt. Even her weird compound comments to Teeny last episode seemed put on for the sake of the Henricksons adults - she's following the company line to please them the way she learned how), she still wants it. And heather, at the very least, seemed jealous that Sarah would go to Scott before she'd go to her for help.

[Cgr]

I felt so sorry for Nicki when she was trying to help Wayne. The girl had to check the calculator to make sure 1 + 1 = 2. I can't help but think that the girls at Juniper Creek receive NO education.

No wonder she got so far in debt!! Poor Nicki


If Rhonda truly wants to leave the compound why does she continue to embrace the teachings? I know I know she is programmed and knows nothing else.

[lanter]

I thought Margene was sort of trailer trash. How did she ever go to Catholic school?

She could have been there on scholarship. I went to Catholic High School and there were a lot of kids there on scholarships. It was kind of weird because 1/3 of the kids were on scholarship, 1/3 were upper-middle class and 1/3 were wealthy. Gallo Winery donated the land and the Gallo grandkids all went through the school.