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Posted Jun 16, 2008 @ 7:37 PM

There are 3 cut scenes but that shouldn't keep you from watching the leaked screener. I don't know what those two negative reviewers (Televisionary, Futon Critic) were talking about, I liked this a whole lot!

It wasn't at all what I expected when I first read about this project, but reading those negative reviews did give me a better idea about what the world in the show looked like, but they also made the episode seem really bad. And it really isn't.

I can't wait for this to premiere.

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Posted Jun 17, 2008 @ 9:32 PM

Leaked pilot spoilers:

Yeowch. Not a single one of these actors is managing to rise above the fake southern accents, which are all over the map from sentence to sentence. Including Anna Paquin. "Oh my stars," indeed. Nitpick, maybe, but hugely distracting and makes the dialogue seem horribly cliched, even when it isn't that bad. Could have used some casting advice from whoever did The Riches. Speaking of which, every actress on the show needs to take a cue from Minnie Driver on how to at least have a *consistent* accent.

Accents aside, it still feels cheezy, kind of Moonlight-with-sex-and-bad-accents. It's hard to believe this show bears any connection whatsoever to Six Feet Under. Maybe it'll get better. Has a long way to go.

Also, I know it's partially whatever they did to her teeth, but Anna Paquin is aging into Tracy Ullman. Not that that's a bad thing.

Edited by kieyra, Jun 17, 2008 @ 9:38 PM.


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Posted Jun 18, 2008 @ 3:19 AM

I've just seen the pilot, and I really, really enjoyed that. It was kinda odd, hearing Anna Paquin all Southern since I grew up listening to her tell children's stories on tape.

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Some of that was massively hot. Not so much the sex, which was a little too graphic (though the actor who plays Jason is very pretty). The interaction between Sookie and Bill was great; the sort of couple chemistry that you hear everyone measuring every other couple against.

I gather that Tara wasn't originally in the books. I quite liked her; she was certainly the second character that I warmed up to, after Sookie. And she was very funny; actually the humour in the pilot really got me going. Quite liked the actor who played Jason too -- aside from the obvious, he wasn't half bad in the role. And of course Bill. The only character I didn't like was the cook, whatever his name was. Seemed like a huge cliche.

Some of it was a little hamfisted, I could totally tell what was going on with the dog, and the first fight sequence was awful. The second one was quite good though, perhaps because it didn't have to deal with telikineticaly thrown chains. Eugh. There was some nasty gore going on at the end. Blood flying out the nose indeed. Yeuck! But oddly exciting.

Random Thoughts:

Jason the horndog is very ambigiously gay.

And there's someone called Hoyt! Teehee.

I'll certainly be keeping an eye out for this. It's a shame that Fringe has overshadowed this a little; I didn't like it nearly as much.

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Posted Jun 18, 2008 @ 3:52 AM

Just stumbled upon the abridged pilot out in the wilds -- very interesting, I think. I like the casting more or less though the aforementioned issues about regional accents is something that I hope will polish up over the course of the show.

...semi-meta, but why the heck is this show categorized in Drama instead of Sci-Fi/Action Adventure? It's about vampires. A lot. All the other vampire shows are over there. Had a heckuva time finding this thread. :)

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Posted Jun 18, 2008 @ 5:35 PM

I had a chance to watch the pre-air pilot. There are some scenes missing in the screener and I am reserving most of my judgment for the actual on-air pilot. My first impressions:

The accents seem a bit broad and all over the place to me - but since my Southern exposure consists of visiting Atlanta and Savannah, and this takes place in the very rural South, I may very well not know what I am blathering on about.

There is too much porny sex in it - and since the Jason Stackhouse character is not a favourite of mine in the books, having his sexual adventures graphically realized for pay cable is not my dream come true.

Sam Merlotte - Sookie's boss - more likeable in the book (they better work on that, because Sam's an important character)

Mainly what works for me is the instant chemistry and connection between Sookie and Bill, and since the series has to get that right to have a chance to succeed, that's a big hurdle right there.

Other than that I won't really know how much I am going to like this until Eric shows up later on, as he is my favourite character in the books.

In conclusion - can't really tell from this pilot whether this series will be a hit or a flop.



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Posted Jun 18, 2008 @ 10:12 PM

Can people posting reviews specify between book and pilot spoilers? I was reading spoiler-tagged comments to read others' thoughts on the pilot, but did not intend to stumble upon the fact that (book spoiler!) Sam apparently has a "true nature" which was thrown in with a bunch of pilot comments.

As for me, I rather liked the pilot, minus some of the acting. The "world" is very interesting and I had 0 expectations having no familiarity with the books or their plots; I'll be checking this out in the fall.

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Posted Jun 18, 2008 @ 11:07 PM

Spy Idol, my apologies- it was I who spoiled about Sam. I'll try to mark 'em clearly in the future.

One scene from the leaked pilot that was different from the survey-related one I saw was the lady in the woods when Sookie is saving Bill. Does anyone know who she's supposed to be?

I was interesting to see the different Taras in action. Still meh on the character.

Edited by kirshpgh, Jun 18, 2008 @ 11:10 PM.


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Posted Jun 19, 2008 @ 3:17 AM

TV Spoiler

One scene from the leaked pilot that was different from the survey-related one I saw was the lady in the woods when Sookie is saving Bill. Does anyone know who she's supposed to be?


Never read the books, so I don't know if I'm qualified to answer, but... I got the distinct impression that she was meant to be the dog.

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Posted Jun 19, 2008 @ 5:37 AM

MBenzN, Book spoiler :Sam Merlotte's the dog

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Posted Jun 19, 2008 @ 8:05 AM

Color me unimpressed. Considering this is from Alan Ball (Six Feet Under is one of my fave shows of all time), I really expected more. I didn't find any of the characters likable.

Anna Paquin may have been an impressive child actor when she was in The Piano, but she really is a terrible adult actress. Her accent isn't consistent or convincing.

The guy who played Bill seems interesting (kind of made me think of Tom Jane).

Good to see Chris Bauer (The Wire) getting work on HBO again, but his accent is terrible.

I want to like this show (vampires + Alan Ball = cool), but I just wasn't drawn into the story. Every time I thought something interesting was going to happen, I just went "meh." Man, HBO really needs a hit on their hands again. I hope the adaptation of Preacher (comic book) happens soon.

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Posted Jun 19, 2008 @ 1:20 PM

I usually give vampire-related series a chance, but that was painful.
I don't know from the books, so I'll just assume they are better than this was. Accents didn't bug as much as the stilted dialogue did. Everything seemed out of sync. Sookie (potentially describing the character's relationship with a bloodsooker, perhaps?) was reacted to by the cartoonish cook as if they'd seen each other for the first time that evening when we'd previously seen her serving food, for instance. (And what waitress serves a cooked item last? She must make her tips on the lipstick as she implied. Ryan Kwanten and Steven Moyers were hot as ever, though, and my guess is that Jason was hypnotized by the vamp on tape. The whole vampires as oppressed minority/gay analogy bugs as well, but I'll guess that's from the books. I might continue for the eye candy, and maybe turn the sound off.

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Posted Jun 20, 2008 @ 12:07 PM

I liked the pilot. It was extremely bizarre but I was compelled throughout and am looking forward to seeing more.

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Posted Jun 21, 2008 @ 12:42 PM

I really liked the pilot. I thought the chemistry between the actors were great but I got very body-conscious watching the episode. Everyone is incredibly fit, there is not one ounce of fat on anyone. Did everyone catch the little shout-outs to HBO and Harris?

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Posted Jun 21, 2008 @ 11:15 PM

That was seriously the worst pilot I've ever seen. The acting was awful all the way around, my tolerance for black female characters who exist solely to be sassy hit a wall years ago and the accents, dear God, the accents. At least Anna Paquin seems to have lost that bloaty thing she had going on in X3. She looked really pretty for a change. Blonde suits her.

The premise was really interesting, so I thumbed through the first book this afternoon. Does the writing get better? Cause the first fifteen pages or so was full of the sort of overly specific hair and clothing descriptions that I associate with the Anita Blake novels. And I can't go down that road again. At this point, I realize it might sound a little like I'm baiting the fans or something, but I really do want to know. I have serious Anita Blake PTSD.

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Posted Jun 22, 2008 @ 10:29 AM

I feel that the Pre-Air's production value is skimpy because it's a Pre-Air. I'm sure with the proper edits and correct pacing the show will become tighter in it's finalized format.

That being said, I was rather disappointed by this show. It's a pilot and it should grab you immediately. The only person I actually enjoyed on the show was Sookie. Whoever that woman is portraying her is a fabulous little actress. Although, I think her sidekick black friend is like nails across the chalkboard. I hope they kill her off and soon.

I didn't get any chemistry between Bill and Sookie, I actually saw more between Sookie and her boss Sam. Her mom or auntie, I forget, is also a great actress and can't wait to see more of her later on.

In my opinion I think the woman that's portraying Sookie should get some serious recognition after this show. She's the only one that will probably keep me to continue watching.

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Posted Jun 22, 2008 @ 6:53 PM

In my opinion I think the woman that's portraying Sookie should get some serious recognition after this show. She's the only one that will probably keep me to continue watching.


I think Anna Paquin actually won an Oscar as a child actor, then went on to do the X-Men movies. Not sure what else.

Did I read that Tara is being/has been recast? Does anyone know if the leaked pilot Tara is the final one? I can kind of see why she was recast. She's not that bad an actress, I guess, but in a pilot full of horrible and inconsistent accents, hers was the worst.

(Edit: Yep, recast per Futon Critic)

I've tried to rewatch the pilot a few times to see if I'm missing some hidden genius, but if it's there I'm too dumb to recognize it. It seriously feels like a pilot written for CBS, not HBO (with the addition of the gratuitous sex, of course). I mean, in the teaser alone, they drop about ten different anvils on your head, from Anne Rice to Hurricane Katrina. In fact, the teaser can't even be fairly called CBS quality. CW, maybe.

(Yeah, I'm being pretty merciless here, but that's what those accents do to me.)

Edited by kieyra, Jun 22, 2008 @ 7:04 PM.


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Posted Jun 22, 2008 @ 7:56 PM

I did not get any kind of CBS feeling from this, because that would've been a disaster, I just got into it right away and loved the interaction between Sookie and Bill. It does look like a rough cut though and there's certainly things that need to be worked on and could've looked better, but overall I'm really excited for this to start in September.

I have yet to rewatch the pilot, maybe tomorrow, but I hope it holds up just as well on a second viewing.

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Posted Jun 22, 2008 @ 11:16 PM

Are opinions of the pilot are divided between those who are familiar with the Southern Vampire books & those that aren't? I'm guessing that I'm more forgiving toward it because I 'know' the characters & storyline (and people who aren't familiar with the books are expecting a different type of story).


The Deadwood Stage has updated casting/episode information (Eric appears in the fourth episode!). Regarding the first episode, they're guessing that the lady in the woods is [book spoiler] Claudine.

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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 12:10 AM

I've never heard of the books until the pilot leaked and I checked here for a thread. I loved it; like lots and bunches. I'm also sad they are recasting Tara, she sounded exactly like my relatives from the south (admittedly from the wrong part of the south relative to the accent she should have had) and was easily my favorite of the secondary characters (and I love Brook Kerr who was at one point the sole redeeming quality of the soap "Passions"). I've heard goo things about the actress she's apparently being replaced with though (she was in "How She Move") so I'll hold out hope that I still the character.

Edited by TheLabRat, Jun 23, 2008 @ 12:10 AM.


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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 1:33 AM

I've never heard of the books before and I really liked the pilot.

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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 3:31 AM

I have not read the books (nor do I plan to), I only knew the general premise of vampires and Sookie, and even if it was not the show I initally expected I loved the pilot.

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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 4:02 AM

Never heard of the books before this thread, but liked the pilot well enough (though I do share some of the criticism of it; but overall I liked it).

Edited by LolaRuns, Jun 23, 2008 @ 4:03 AM.


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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 10:48 AM

Did the pilot end really abruptly for anyone else, just as Sookie coughs up that splurt of blood from being beaten up? Just wanted to make sure it wasn't just my copy.

I checked out a couple of the books when I first heard about the proposed series, but I can't say I was able to get into it. With the Dresden files, I came to like the books a lot more than the series, which I liked as well. But the True Blood series kinda left me cold. Maybe I'll try giving it another go. I am amused that Stephen Moyer is playing another vampire after Ultraviolet, but I am not sure I like him as Bill. I definitely approve of who they cast as Eric though.

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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 12:24 PM

The pilot I watched ended like that as well.

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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 2:27 PM

I agree, ovredge, that the ending seemed abrupt, even for a show that willl likely have abrupt endings. But given that it also had three scenes cut out I'm assuming the final cut on this one will be a bit smoother.

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Posted Jun 23, 2008 @ 9:05 PM

I really, really disliked the pilot. I loved the concept but I felt it was executed extremely poorly. I know there were some scenes missing and when it actually airs, I hope its better. But I was really disappointed. Oh, and those southern accents were way too over the top.

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Posted Jun 24, 2008 @ 12:00 PM

CaliforniaSun, Illyria B & LolaRuns-Here I was worried that people would not be interested if they hadn’t read Harris’ books (and because it is slightly off the beaten tv-vampire path); glad to hear that's not the case.

I am amused that Stephen Moyer is playing another vampire after Ultraviolet, but I am not sure I like him as Bill.


Vampire Jack had much better hair than Vampire Bill (shallow, I know- but that's what I remember about Moyer's character in Ultraviolet: big, bouncy hair!). Hopefully, Moyer will be more impressive when he actually has something to do other than look curiously at Sookie.

Caught In Plain Sight last night, and I thought Fred Weller would’ve made a great Bill. A little lanky, but somehow he’s more how I imagined Bill Compton. Overall, I really do like the cast.

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Posted Jun 24, 2008 @ 1:31 PM

I hated the pilot. There was one aspect I loved and that was the premise, but that came across better in that five seconds interview segment with Bill Maher than it did in the rest of the episode.

The tone didn't work, the acting left me cold in every case and some characters were so badly and offensively cliched that I didn't know what to do with myself: the sassy best friend, the cook, the boss who has a thing for Sookie (which due to Anna Paquin's underaged look weirded me out), the woman who does everything for money and ends up dead, not to mention the vampire love interest were the worst offenders. The cinematography also looked really unappealing and gave the whole set that cardboard feel, which is two feats of shame for the price of one.

I never knew what they really wanted to do here - horror, comedy, softcore porn - which was made worse by the fact that it was never scary, never funny and never sexy.

Nothing of this pilot ever felt real. I came out of watching it as if I had seen this show before but never liked. If I had to guess the rest of its plot, then I'll suspect that it will be an endless love triangle between the vampire, the telepath and the boss. I take it that he's a werewolf. In those stories it's always werewolves.

I've got to admit that I'm so harsh because I'm severely disappointed. This is the work of the guy who did Six Feet Under? Really? Because I would have never guessed that if I hadn't known. I expected something more Near Dark-ish and the premise could have easily provided that. Instead we got this muddled mix.

So basically if I'm watching any vampire show this fall, it will be the BBC's Being Human - less interesting premise, but it's much more consistent in tone. And it's actually funny.

Edited by para, Jun 24, 2008 @ 2:48 PM.


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Posted Jun 27, 2008 @ 3:56 PM

Never read the books. Watched the leaked pilot. Thought it was comically howlingly bad. Almost as if it were meant to be a parody of cheesy vampire romance novels.

MST3K fodder? Yes. A great new HBO show worthy as the follow up to Six Feet Under? Not so much.

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Posted Jun 29, 2008 @ 12:18 AM

Almost as if it were meant to be a parody of cheesy vampire romance novels.


Same for me. Never read the books but watched the LP and found myself laughing at it more than anything else. The accents really were annoying, like the actors could not get past them so they instead overly stressed everything. The LP did not make me invested in any of the characters or their stories. The sex scenes seemed like they were added specifically so the creators can say "See, a vampire show that actually has sex!" but appeared random and out of place. Overall there was absolutely nothing completely fascinating or sexy about the episode.

Edited by justsmile, Jun 29, 2008 @ 12:19 AM.