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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 2:03 PM

Who was actually invited to the banquet? That room seemed a little small to house the whole base, especially since Roxy, Gloria, Denise, CJ, and Jackie were all in attendance and by that I mean all ranks. I mean the exclusive concert at Jackie's house seemed to have more people there.


It was super small. There's no way that Gloria and Jackie would be at the same event unless it was held in a expo hall. Soldiers don't come into contact with Generals except on a "here's an important person come to shake hands because you did something very impressive" basis unless they're on the General's staff. I guess they could have been invited because they helped set things up but if they were inviting everyone from the three star down to the soldiers in the units there would be thousands of people there.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 2:42 PM

Is AW not on next Sunday? I don't think we got any previews...

Per my DVR description: "Denise offers C.J. her kidney, but Frank thinks it's too risky. Meanwhile Roland and Joan meet with C.J. to discuss the legal issues surrounding David's biological father; and Hector tells Gloria she should quit work".

Why does television believe that throwing pills down the sink will magically cure your addiction? Depending on how often she was taking them (and I doubt she was taking them as prescribed), Jackie would have some sort of withdrawal symptoms.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 3:44 PM

And there is one more episode after next week, so two more to go.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 4:12 PM

I could not figure out how Jackie was left at home after taking those pills and drinking. Denise should have known you do not leave someone alone after that.

Just like CJ is all find and dandy with her illness, Trevor becoming a officer after his addiction, and what about Joan recovering so well and fast after her brain injury and cornea? transplant.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 4:23 PM

Is AW not on next Sunday? I don't think we got any previews


We never see previews any more because Lifetime insists on dropping right into the Client List instead. Really irritating.

Glad to see a storyline involving CJ's law degree instead of throwing yet another illness on the character, so I'm hoping against hope it actually develops.

Jackie, even the After School Specials will demonstrate that the toilet is correct plumbing device for pill disposal. Unless, of course, it's a plot twist for next week: your husband comes home from the party, all set to reconcile, only to find the sink backed up from all your little white goodnights. If I could actually watch previews instead of having the Client List stuffed down my throat, I would know this.

I like Kelli Williams so much more now that I've seen her this role; Lindsey on the Practice was a whiny shrew. She has much more range than I thought and I hope the writers figure out what to do with her character.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 4:24 PM

I got completely taken out of the story by two things. One, the gaping hole where the relief worker managed to get out and wondering did she leave the children who managed to survive, and if not, how did SHE get them out without causing an international incident.

Two, when David's biological father showed up, all I could think was "Hey, it's D'angelo Barksdale!"
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 4:52 PM

Ugh...you have to watch halfway into the Client List to get to the Army Wives preview. So not worth it.....I figured it out last week when I left the TV on afterward. I hope they don't make a habit of that next season and on other shows. Tricky tactic to get you to try to watch the next show.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 4:54 PM

I thought flushing pills down the toilet was a bad idea too.

Denise might be a donor for CJ. She needs to pay attention to the fact that Frank is felling really guilty with leaving the orphans behind. If she does not want to, I will gladly take care of him myself. *wink wink*

Btw, I find it quite interesting that Denise is the only one (besides Michael and the daughter) offering to be a donor.

Edited by bigskygirl, May 7, 2012 @ 4:55 PM.

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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 6:10 PM

I thought flushing pills down the toilet was a bad idea too.

It is. You are suppose to take them to pharmacies for disposal.

On topic- I thought there were going to be 18-22 episodes for the final season. And according to wikipedia (which I know is not the most reliable resource), there will be 23 episodes this season. Am I mixing up my tv shows?
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 7:21 PM

I think they will have another season later this fall.
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Posted May 7, 2012 @ 8:57 PM

I wanted to smack the aid worker, especially for her crude behavior to Frank, who was genuinely sad about what had happened. Of course, the fact that the children were killed is tragic. But unfortunately, it happens in a war zone. And the US Military had one objective-- to evacute US citizens, which they did. Even if the military had moved the childen, what would they have done with them? They couldn't bring them back to the US. It's a sticky situation though of course, with the moral/ethical component and I actually thought the show handled it pretty well. I wonder if we will hear any more of this before the season break.

Michael seemed very objective in his role and definitely handled the whole thing well, even though I feel like it is most definitely a conflict of interest.

I agree that her getting out of Narubu was a plot hole-- I figured she managed to escape across a border into a neighboring country and get back to the US from there. I guess?

As per usual, Frank/Terry Scerpio was knocking it out of the park.

And I agree, David's biological father coming back in the picture is cliched. And of course he's a criminal! I could do without this plotline.

The Clark storyline is giving me whiplash. Ugh. Look, I don't mind Jackie being a sympathetic character, but then don't make her a scheming bitch in the beginning.
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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 10:13 AM

Who was actually invited to the banquet? That room seemed a little small to house the whole base, especially since Roxy, Gloria, Denise, CJ, and Jackie were all in attendance and by that I mean all ranks. I mean the exclusive concert at Jackie's house seemed to have more people there.


It seemed to me like it was supposed to be a banquet for the new people to the base. They had mentioned that it was postponed because of the move. I don't know how CJ, Denise and Roxy etc fit into that though.
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Posted May 9, 2012 @ 12:08 PM

Quote: “In this case the guy was in prison so they are automatically making it look like he would be a bad parent vs. the great Burtons. But that's not always the case.”

The impression I got was the opposite: the guy would be a good parent and has a legal right to custody of his own son. I kind of thought the point of him having gone to jail was to show that people can turn their lives around.

Quote: “It's like TV writers hate adoption and want to make it as difficult and painful as possible to discourage family's from adoption.”

I disagree with this because in real life, often adoption actually IS difficult and painful. That’s why when someone casually asks a childless woman or couple why don’t they adopt, it comes across as extremely ignorant of what the adoption process can be.

Quote: “I wanted to smack the aid worker, especially for her crude behavior to Frank, who was genuinely sad about what had happened. Of course, the fact that the children were killed is tragic. But unfortunately, it happens in a war zone.”

I agree, and I think she is completely stupid not to understand that. She was stupid and self-righteous in expecting the Army to take all or any of those children. She might see herself as heroic but she is far from it.

I agree with the others who are wondering how she got back and why she didn’t take the children herself, and what else happened in the meantime. It would be interesting to see if we will find out any of the missing story there.

I hope Frank doesn’t quit the Army. Then again, if he does then at least I hope they finally write off Denise’s character (though it’d be better if they get divorced and she leaves the show and Frank stays, but I highly doubt that will ever happen).
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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 9:13 PM

WTF!!!

Denise just becomes a donor for CJ. What happen with the tissue matching blood tests that both the donor and recepient have to take. Or the complete physical that the donor takes that is given by a kidney specialist (not the transplant surgeon)

And the fact is that the surgery is much more dangerous for the donor than the recepient.

Michael talks to Frank and all of a sudden Frank is okay with it.

Then there is Jackie and her addiction. She goes in for treatment, hits rock bottom again, pours her pills down the sink and now everything is fine and dandy.

Just once I wish a show could get certain life threatening medical conditions right.

Corrected: Do not know why I typed street instead of sink. *lol*

Edited by bigskygirl, May 14, 2012 @ 3:21 PM.

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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 9:20 PM

Denise just becomes a donor for CJ. What happen with the tissue matching blood tests that both the donor and recipient have to take. Or the complete physical that the donor takes that is given by a kidney specialist (not the transplant surgeon)


Didn't Denise go and get tested episodes ago, she talked to Frank about wanting to do it, I thought they agreed she could get tested and they would cross the will she or won't she bridge when they get to it. I can accept all the tests happening off screen.
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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 9:41 PM

Wondered when they were going to have Roxy get pregnant again. Was that two or three seasons ago that she had the miscarriage? I thought they were going to just drop that forever.
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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 9:46 PM

Claudia Joy was surprised that Denise was able to be a donor.

When I went in to be a possible donor for my husband I had to have a tissue matching blood test. My husband and I had at to have at least four tubes of blood taken at the same time at our local hospital (other words an appointment was set up for us by the transplant coordinator and it was required that we had the blood tests taken at the same time at the hospital where my husband was receiving his dialysis treatments.)

Also, when I had my physical it was done by a kidney specialist and she was quite specific on what to look for. I was even asked about my caffiene intake.

In fact my husband decided to go off the transplant list for a few months because I was seriously getting burned out from the stress of dealing with my husband's illness. My husband's kidney specialist and dialysis unit social worker suggested it because they were concern I was going to end up in the hospital.

So I call bs that the transplant surgeon had no problems with doing the transplant after hearing Frank's concerns (why no social worker, transplant coordinator even Claudia Joy and/or Michael were not there.)
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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 10:58 PM

I really hate when TV Land does a transplant storyline. They never get it right. This storyline has been flawed from the minute CJ got sick.
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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 7:41 AM

Wow... could they have been any more obvious that Roxy was pregnant? I saw that storyline coming like the headlight of an oncoming freight train.
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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 9:21 AM

Trevor being considered for the new unit- I wonder if this sets things up for Roxy to leave the show. Doesn't the actress have another job next season with NBC? I am glad Roxy is pregnant. Hopefully it will be a good story. Although if her baby is anything like Molly we will never see her. There was a lot of Denise in this episode and we never saw the kid. Whats up with that?

I was also wondering how an addict (Jackie) who has been in treatment before is just able to kick the pills habit again, no problem. They could have at least said something about going to a therapist or meetings or whatever. I found it hard to believe that she would confess all of her past to all those women, especially since she doesn't know them. I guess they are all buddies now.
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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 11:08 AM

I don't mind that I didn't get every minute of the real transplant reality. I don't watch Army Wives for medical accuracy, after all, but the focus on Army life and the relationship between the women and their significant others.

In that perspective, I thought Frank totally had a right to be mad that Denise told CJ before discussing it with him. But also, when he was talking about the unacceptable risk I wanted her to say, your life is at risk everyday you are deployed - a much higher risk - and that affects your child too.

I'm also on Roxy's side with Trevor. Can he not just chill out for a minute (or year?). I mean he just became an officer and now he wants to do something else. I would be annoyed too if he told her we will stay put for at least three years and then he suddenly wants something else. He's all over the place - soldier, recruiter, officer, ranger. Ugh.

The David storyline is really interesting. You could see Joan's fear and pain. And I also understood where David came from - he thought he had been abandoned and suddenly this man wants to meet him. Very complicated and intense story.
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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 1:03 PM

I don't mind that I didn't get every minute of the real transplant reality. I don't watch Army Wives for medical accuracy, after all, but the focus on Army life and the relationship between the women and their significant others.


The problem is the viewers get the wrong impression of the disease/illness.

People think that a transplant is a cure or a patient should have no problems with getting a live donor so why should they be a donor when they die.

Dialysis is a treatment for a life threatening condition and is quite hard on any patient. In Claudia Joy's case, she looks quite well for someone who was slowly dying.

If dialysis was so hard on her then she would not be working esp. in a stressful job as a lawyer.

People also gets the wrong impression about the testing process for a live donor.

You have to go through a battery of tests and that includes psychological testing. If the donor's family has a concern about the transplant then the transplant coordinator, social worker and the patient's kidney specialist meet with the family to address the concern(s) not the transplant surgeon.

As a wife of a dialysis/transplant patient I think storylines like this should be done correctly. People die everyday because they can not get a much needed organ(s)
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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 1:11 PM

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Trevor being considered for the new unit- I wonder if this sets things up for Roxy to leave the show. Doesn't the actress have another job next season with NBC? I am glad Roxy is pregnant. Hopefully it will be a good story. Although if her baby is anything like Molly we will never see her. There was a lot of Denise in this episode and we never saw the kid. Whats up with that?


I found this http://www.deadline....drama-eyes-end/

I think they're adding the new characters this season to see who works to be added to the group as the originals leave.
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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 3:28 PM

Another thing that irks me so when Denise said CJ was a good friend and always there for her.

When Denise was fired for fooling around with a patient, CJ was quite judgmental about it. I even remember Michael was judging her until the night CJ crashed the car and super nurse Denise helped saved her.

Or what about CJ getting mad at Denise for her friendship with Jackie.

Corrected: Meant to say Michael

Edited by bigskygirl, May 14, 2012 @ 4:56 PM.

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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 3:51 PM

"When Denise was fired for fooling around with a patient, CJ was quite judgmental about it."

Actually, Claudia Joy defended Denise to not only the other Army wives, but also to Michael.

"I even remember Frank was judging her until the night CJ crashed the car and super nurse Denise helped saved her."

So what? I can't believe the subject of Denise cheating has never come up again between Frank and Denise. Does an issue like infidelity really go away that easily?

"Or what about CJ getting mad at Denise for her friendship with Jackie."

What about it? Why did Denise so easily becomes BFF's with Jackie, and even repeat something that Claudia Joy told her in confidence?

I still can't stand Denise. She is no hero in my book. I don't care how much the writers are trying to get me to declare her one, it ain't working. They might as well give it up.
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Posted May 14, 2012 @ 4:55 PM

CJ was no better.

It was Roland admitting to the others that he had an affair before they all (including CJ) started befriending her again.

Michael started to like Denise again because she was there the night of the accident. CJ could have killed someone(s) that night by driving while she was not feeling well.

CJ did not even asked if Frank had a problem with Denise being a donor. It became all about her.

This show is still going down hill. Phony and unrealistic.
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Posted May 15, 2012 @ 12:00 PM

I'm not sure why I never noticed such problems with the storylines before now. I see such misinformation about medical matters, legal issues and from I hear, military information. I'm not sure why they can't take a few hours and get the correct information, so the script can portray things accurately. I'm finding the misinformation distracting. I realy do hope they improve on this. There is another season coming up, right?
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Posted May 16, 2012 @ 12:19 AM

Roxy's pregnancy was completely telegraphed. I was actually wondering just last week if we were ever going to see more of that storyline. Ta da!

I have to say-- I was getting pretty annoyed with Tanya this episode. She knows what she's doing is wrong and potentially harmful to the doctor's career. But then she pouts and won't leave it alone.

I love how Jackie is suddenly cured of her pill addiction and now everyone is BFFs. Right.
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Posted May 16, 2012 @ 2:43 PM

I found this http://www.deadline....drama-eyes-end/

I think they're adding the new characters this season to see who works to be added to the group as the originals leave.


Sounds like the cast will be there for next season and that's about it. I enjoy the show, but maybe the time has come to end it after the 6th season.
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Posted May 17, 2012 @ 2:40 PM

So, let me get this straight.

Denise- who was in a coma not 10 episodes before can now donate a kidney?
Denise - who has like a 1-2 year old, doesn't stop to think. "What if my daughter, who no longer has a sibling, needs a body part, maybe we'll wait until Claudia Joy actually NEEDS a transplant?"

And then she tells CJ before she even talks to her husband? I was so mad at Frank for being all "It's okay, Dee, Baby, you go get yourself hacked up."I would have raised all manner of holy hell if my husband did such a thing. Just saying.

Tanya and Blake must be AWESOME in bed. I don't get this whole "fellon" thing, but I hope it happens.

Hopefully this baby comes to term for Trevor/Roxy.
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